FOFC Diplomacy -- GAME OVER!!

[Radii]

Originally Posted by path12

Germany to Austria: The Kaiser wishes to inform the Archduke that he is, in fact, toast.

Anonymous press is submitted to me and I will post in thread as a news update, for example:

Rumor has it that Germany is not entirely being honest with the Archduke.

(Disclaimer: both press examples are totally made up).

Originally Posted by path12

Germany in that example could have been promising Austria an alliance in order to get him looking in another direction. Or he could submit the above orders and have you copied on it, but then submit a separate set of orders later to supercede it. The possibilities are endless.

You really, really dislike Austria, huh? They keep getting screwed in all your examples!

[Radii]

woohoo, triple dola.

Another example: Italy: A Ven - Tyr
Germany: A Mun support A Ven-Tyr
Austria: A Vie - Tyr

One other very basic thing that I think is probably important enough early in the game to point out here is the concept of cutting support.

Lets say Russia is in the mix too, not adjacent to Tyrolia, but, adjacent to Munich, and is allied with Austria and trying to help them out. We can add one more movement order here:

Italy: A Ven - Tyr
Germany: A Mun support A Ven-Tyr
Austria: A Vie - Tyr
Russia: A Sil-Mun

Now, russia is attacking munich. The army in Munich now must defend itself and can no longer offer support for the Italian move. This creates a giant stalemate where nothing changes at all for the four armies in question.


There's probably lots of other little nuances with moves that will come up, but that one is a very basic, key idea that goes along with describing unit support I think.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Radii

You really, really dislike Austria, huh? They keep getting screwed in all your examples!

I had a long stretch where Italy/Austria/Turkey were my favorites to play, so that area is pretty much etched in my brain. I actually should go to a map or rulebook when answering questions!

Good point on cutting support. That is a key concept for the newer players.

[BrianD]

http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf

This is a link to the other online rule book I found. It is not in color and is much faster to download and navigate. I believe this is from 1999, but I didn't see any differences between this and the 2008 book I linked to earlier.

[WheelsVT]

I'll try to follow along even though I've never played.

Have any of you used one of the online sites like PHP Diplomacy or Play Diplomacy Online or World Leaders ? Would that be a good option for someone wanting to learn to play and perhaps get some friends together to play?

[saldana]

just a question about the turns, are we going to stick with a whole week for every turn after the first? or might we be shortening them up after the game gets going.

[Warhammer]

I would think that it would be best to keep a fair amount of time between turns. Maybe not a week, but no more than 2 turns a week because we need to have time to diplome.

[path12]

Originally Posted by WheelsVT

I'll try to follow along even though I've never played.

Have any of you used one of the online sites like PHP Diplomacy or Play Diplomacy Online or World Leaders ? Would that be a good option for someone wanting to learn to play and perhaps get some friends together to play?

Wheels, I haven't tried any of the sites you mentioned so can't comment on that. Feel free to PM me with any questions you have about what's going on and I'll be glad to answer the best I can.

[path12]

Originally Posted by saldana

just a question about the turns, are we going to stick with a whole week for every turn after the first? or might we be shortening them up after the game gets going.

If everyone wants to shorten up the turns at some point that's no problem, it's your guys game...I just want to make sure nobody feels too rushed with negotiations/real life.

[path12]

THE DAILY DIPLOMAT

Germany to Austria: Remember what happened to Ferdinand? You're next!

Is Italy serious about enjoying the French Riviera in Fall '01?

Russia and Turkey at each other's throats?

France to Germany: I'll be in the ENC by the end of the year.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by path12

If everyone wants to shorten up the turns at some point that's no problem, it's your guys game...I just want to make sure nobody feels too rushed with negotiations/real life.

I've always felt the opposite. There's a lot of fluff in the early turns and they could really go fairly quickly, but once the game gets going and each country has multiple fronts to worry about with multiple enemies, it never seems like there's enough time

[path12]

Let's try this. Once I have received all orders for a turn, I will post that in thread and then give 12-24 hours for any sneaky revisions, then we'll adjudicate the turn.

Any objections?

[Schmidty]

I'm here, and responding to PMs finally.


(Germany's starting point is a lot tougher than I thought it would be.)

[chesapeake]

Bump to remind folks to get those orders in.

[path12]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

Bump to remind folks to get those orders in.

Thanks!

Only have two orders in folks, get them to me today!

[path12]

Good job, guys -- almost all in now. Just for an FYI, it being one of the last days of summer here in Seattle I'm taking the sun-worshiping and ever-patient Ms.Path out for an outdoors date tonight but will adjudicate the turn after getting back.

[path12]

Deadline. Orders are in. Results soon.

(Any commentary is strictly my own based on the moves, I have no inside info).

[path12]

THE DAILY DIPLOMAT

END SPRING 1901

ITALY INVADES AUSTRIA!!

TYROLIA INVADED!

GREAT POWERS MANEUVER FOR POSITION.

ENGLAND & FRANCE RAPPORT?

RUSSIA TO SUMMER IN BLACK SEA.

(Switzerland) A nervous spring of sabre-rattling has continued to increase tensions throughout Europe, culminating in an Italian invasion of Tyrolia. It remains to be seen what repercussions are in store, or what Italy's intentions truly are.

Elsewhere, both Russia and England head towards Scandinavia, Germany moves into Denmark, Austria moves to Serbia and threatens Greece, as does Turkey with an excursion into Bulgaria. France and England go in different directions as France sets her sights on Iberia, while the Ionian Sea now is in control of the Italian Navy.

Diplomats continue to frantically try and prevent further spread of conflict, though it is rumored that some may not have entirely peaceful motives. Time will tell, however it is feared that peace will not be in the cards for Fall.

Austria (PackerFanatic)
A Bud - Ser
F Tri - Alb
A Vie - Bud

England (Celeval)
F Edi - Nwg
F Lon - Nth
A Lvp - Yor

France (Radii)
F Bre - MAt
A Par - Bur
A Mar support A Par - Bur

Germany (Schmidty)
A Ber - Sil
F Kie - Den
A Mun - Ruh

Italy (saldana)
A Ven - Tyr
A Rom - Nap
F Nap - Ion

Russia (chesapeake)
F StP(sc) - Bot
A Mos - Ukr
A War H
F Sev - Bla

Turkey (Warhammer)
A Con - Bul
F Ank - Con
A Smy - Ank

Game Map after Spring 1901:



Current unit positions:

Austria (3) -- A Bud, A Ser, F Alb
England (3) -- F Nrg, F Nth, A Yor
France (3) -- F MAt, A Bur, A Mar
Germany (3) -- F Den, A Ruh, A Sil
Italy (3) -- A Tyr, A Nap, F Ion
Russia (4) -- F Bot, A War, A Ukr, F Bla
Turkey (3) -- A Bul, F Con, A Ank

FALL 1901 ORDERS DUE MONDAY SEPT 22ND AT 10PM EASTERN.

[path12]

Sorry guys, forgot to list the actual moves! I told you I was rusty. Fixed now.

[Celeval]

Cheers for initial moves!

That said, are we going to stick with a week between deadlines? Seems an awful long time - I'd prefer twice a week myself, which should be enough to allow negotiations, but not so long as to lose momentum.

[Schmidty]

I guess I'd be ok with twice a week, as long as neither deadline is on a weekend.

[PackerFanatic]

I think Tuesday-Friday would work out well.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I think Tuesday-Friday would work out well.

I'm OK with this, too.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Celeval

Cheers for initial moves!

That said, are we going to stick with a week between deadlines? Seems an awful long time - I'd prefer twice a week myself, which should be enough to allow negotiations, but not so long as to lose momentum.

As I mentioned before, I'll leave official deadline as it is, but if I get all orders in earlier I'll give a 12 hour notice for revisions and then process.

Unless everyone posts they want it moved up, then no problem!

We'll make it official -- should we have the next deadline on Friday? Yea or nay.

[Celeval]

Yea

[PackerFanatic]

Yea!

[chesapeake]

yea

[path12]

THE DAILY DIPLOMAT

The only rapport between France and England is that they both understand what a "DMZ" is. Unlike some nations.

Austria's trust in Italy may be misplaced.

Refugees are already fleeing Rumania in advance of the upcoming conflict.

[saldana]

yea

[Radii]

yea, shorter deadlines are fine with me.

[saldana]

so what is the next deadline...friday or monday?

[path12]

I was hoping to hear from Warhammer, but will change the date on the thread to Friday.

[path12]

Bumpity to remind about the new deadline.

[path12]

Just two orders received so far fellas.......let's get 'em in!

[path12]

Deadline! All orders have been received. Will process the turn now.

[Celeval]

Woohoo!

[ntndeacon]

Woohoo! I am reading with interest, though I have never played the game either

[path12]

THE DAILY DIPLOMAT

STANDOFF IN GREECE!

WHOLE LOTTA BUILDING GOIN' ON

BALKANS GETTING CROWDED?

FRANCE HELPS ENGLAND ONTO CONTINENT.

KAISER, TSAR: 'I GOT MY EYE ON YOU'.

(Switzerland) The first booms of conquest are being heard throughout Europe as the Great Powers continue to stake out their positions. Besides Switzerland, there are no neutral areas anymore except for Greece, where Turkey and Austria battled to a standoff. Russia, England, France and Germany each acquired two new territories, while Italy, Turkey and Austria got one each.

The countries are expected to ramp up their forces over the winter in preparation for Spring campaigns. The hopes of a peaceful settlement are fading fast.

Move results (failed moves are in parentheses):

Austria (PackerFanatic) -- build 1
(A Ser - Gre) -- FAILED, STANDOFF
(A Bud - Ser) -- FAILED
F Alb H

England (Celeval) -- build 2
A Yor - Bel
F Nth convoy A Yor - Bel
F Nrg - Nwy

France (Radii) -- build 2
F MAt - Por
A Mar - Spa
A Bur support ENG A Yor - Bel

Germany (Schmidty) -- build 2
A Ruh - Hol
F Den H
A Sil H

Italy (saldana) -- build 1
A Tyr H
A Nap - Tun
F Ion convoy A Nap - Tun

Russia (chesapeake) -- build 2
F Bot - Swe
A War H
A Ukr - Rum
F Bla support A Ukr - Rum

Turkey (Warhammer) -- build 1
(A Bul - Gre) -- FAILED, STANDOFF
F Con - Aeg
A Ank - Con

Current game map:



Supply Centers:
Austria: Vie, Bud, Tri, +Ser = 4 (+1)
England: Lon, Liv, Edi, +Bel, +Nwy = 5 (+2)
France: Bre, Par, Mar, +Spa, +Por = 5 (+2)
Germany: Ber, Kie, Mun, +Den, +Hol = 5 (+2)
Italy: Ven, Rom, Nap, +Tun = 4 (+1)
Russia: StP, Mos, War, Sev, +Swe, +Rum = 6 (+2)
Turkey: Ank, Con, Smy, +Bul = 4 (+1)

WINTER BUILDS WILL BE DUE BY 10PM EASTERN ON SUNDAY

GM Note: If Sunday will not work for anyone, please let me know. Interesting map, can't wait to see what happens next!

[Celeval]

The Sunday deadline is fine for me, although I know there was some concern about weekends.

Very interesting movements... I'm shocked that Munich was left unprotected and neither France nor Italy took advantage, for one.

[PackerFanatic]

D'oh. *smacks forehead* You can tell I am fairly new at this, heh.

[chesapeake]

Weekends don't work for me. I'm lucky if I can log in for even 10 minutes.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

Weekends don't work for me. I'm lucky if I can log in for even 10 minutes.

+1

I suggest our deadline be moved to tomorrow. Maybe a Monday and Friday deadline.

[Celeval]

Monday/Friday or even Tuesday/Friday works for me.

[path12]

Cool. We'll postpone the Winter build deadline to tomorrow.

[chesapeake]

I'm just checking in now. My daughter has a fever. I blame Schmidty.

[path12]

A solid strategy.

[path12]

THE DAILY DIPLOMAT

WINTER 1901 BUILDS

Austria (PackerFanatic)
Build A Tri

England (Celeval)
Build F Edi
Build A Lon

France (Radii)
Build A Par
Build A Bre

Germany (Schmidty)
Build A Mun
Build A Kie

Italy (saldana)
Build F Nap

Russia (chesapeake)
Build A Mos
Build F StP (sc)

Turkey (Warhammer)
Build F Smy

CURRENT POSITIONS:

Austria: A Bud, A Tri, A Ser, F Alb = 4
England: F Edi, F Nth, F Nwy, A Lon, A Bel = 5
France: A Par, A Bur, A Bre, A Spa, F Por = 5
Germany: A Mun, A Kie, A Sil, A Hol, F Den = 5
Italy: A Tyr, F Nap, F Ion, A Tun = 4
Russia: A Mos, A War, F StP(sc), F Swe, A Rum, F Bla = 6
Turkey: A Con, F Smy, A Bul, F Aeg = 4

MAP:



SPRING 1902 ORDERS ARE DUE FRIDAY AT 10PM EASTERN

[chesapeake]

The map isn't coming up for me.

[PackerFanatic]

Nor me.

[Celeval]

It was for me, but isn't now. Looks like imageshack is down?