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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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It's called, they weigh a fucking ton and really, really big (depth wise)! Quote:
Well, they had them for a quite a loooong while. I have a CRT HDTV. A 30'' Sony. It also weighs 150 lbs and requirs to screen to be at least two feet away from the wall because of the depth of the TV.
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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I think a ton of the problem with the HDTV equation is the poor signal quality of analog cable for right now. Most consumers just want to buy a tv and plug it in. If you straight plug an LCD into a wall outlet, chances are that it will look like garbage. Even with digital cable, some systems are still very antiquated, and are some digital analog mix.....that can result in significant performance differences between SD, Digital and HD channels.
I switched to Dish Network a few months back, and I am amazed at the picture quality of the SD channels on my LCD. Whereas it looked like trash on all but a few cable channels. I think the signal quality will be figured out in the next couple years, and it will tone down on some of the bullshit looking LCD performance. HD CRT's are amazing, it sucks that they can't make them anymore. I almost bought one last year, but really didn't have any way to get it to my house. Aka the TV was fucking huge. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wisconsin
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SI Games
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Melbourne, FL
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I was quite scared with my new box when I plumbed it in today - turned it on and in 'HD' it looked great, but watching 'Nick' on the default settings looked awful ... some perseverance and playing with settings has made a vast improvement on that side of things though. (incidentally I wanted a LCD simply because of the width size difference, I didn't want a TV which took up a huge amount of space, my old 30'' sony was probably a good 16 inches wide whereas the new one is very slim in comparison and the weight differenc between the two is incredible) Can't wait to get 'HD DirectTV' installed though - anyone got any experiences with this? ... I'm presuming that its just some extra channels opened up and the other boxes in the house will be happy continuing to run bog-standard SD? (as we've 4 boxes in the house). Also on a related note they do a DVDR setup - is it any good, in England we have Sky+ which has a built in hard-disk for recording/pausing shows and that rocks ... is the DVDR a similar solution and does it allow onscreen recording/operation in the way which Sky+ did (in Sky plus you view things as per normal for channel selection then hit 'record' to mark something to be recorded, similarly a library of all recorded stuff on the hard-disk is available to look over whenever you want to). Oh and finally thanks to everyone for all the advice and help ![]() |
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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I have "legacy" HD on DirecTV, and it is awesome. With their new satellite launch, they have a lot more channels, and are using the H.264 encoding on the signals, which is much better than the previous MPEG encoding they were using, but older equipment isn't compatible. I'm not sure if the existing SD boxes will work with the new 5 LNB dish that is needed for the new HD equipment.
Several people on here have the HD20 DVR, and they seem to be very happy with it. I'll be making the switch in January to the new box and dish.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Maryland
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Better be - two different guys at BB told me not to worry, that my old TiVos would still work for the tv's not hooked to the HDVR.
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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My old SD receivers work just fine with the 5 LNB Sat. Count me among those who are a big fan of the HR20. While it lacks a small amount of the functionality of the Tivo box, the improved HD and interactivity make up for it. I've had zero issues with either of our HR20's.
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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Cool, glad to know that the 5 LNB dishes work fine with the legacy receivers. If they didn't I was just going to leave the old dish up and have two sitting on my house.
I should have made the call to upgrade back in October. Now it seems that the days of calling and getting free/almost free HR20s is over.
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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None of those are issues with a good 120hz LCD. SD TV looks like ass on HD tubes too. The biggest problem right now is that content is crap, and the TVs have to blow it up. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Seattle
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It may be that this issue became well-known enough that TV manufacturers have addressed the problems in current models. |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Cary, NC
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CNET recently put up their best TV list for 2007, I know I'm looking hard at the Panasonic TH-42PZ700U, it's gotten a lot of good reviews. Probably will be a couple months before I pull the trigger though.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6485_7-....html?tag=lnav |
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#62 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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Probably should be in line for a pretty major price drop soon, as well. IIRC, the old one came out right around fathers day, so the closer you get to the new model cycle, the more the price of the remaining stock of the existing models will drop. The 42pz77u is pretty good as well, and is usually quite a bit cheaper than the 700u.....not exactly sure what you're missing between the 2 models that really matters either. One has a non-glare coating, one a non glare filter. I think the filter on the 700u makes it brighter than the z77u, but I'm not 100% certain. I don't really notice much of a difference. I think the 700u has slightly better rendering abilities to upscale content. Last edited by stevew : 12-29-2007 at 04:19 PM. |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Toledo - Spain
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I'm thinking on buying one too for the christmas. I have seen a few models at around 1000€ including some Sony Bravias that i like, but all them are 1366 x 768 instead of Full HD 1920 x 1080 that are a 50% more expensive, so i wonder if it's a good time to buy one now or better to wait a bit until 1080 is the standard for all TFT TV's. Full HD is probably not that important for TV watching, but it will be soon for gamming as more and more console games are made in 1080 resolution.
Are you guys buying 768 or 1080 TV's? Are the 10880 ones worth the price increase?
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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Often times the 1080 tv's, at least LCD's(aka the Sony Bravia Flat Panel Line) will also have superior color contrast to their 720p counterparts, and in some cases a 120hz refresh rate. Those are a lot bigger upgrades than just the panel resolution. |
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#65 |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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Bump.
Anybody have one of the Samsung DLPs that use LEDs instead of bulbs? Thoughts on it? |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hometown of Canada
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Let me know if I have this right...
LCD is good if you have sun shining in on the TV (because of the way it handles reflection), and doesn't have burn-in. However, unless you can afford the 120Hz versions, you'll notice blur for things like sporting events and some video games. Plasma is good if you have a darker room (or the sun behind the TV), handles up-converting of regular cable better, and doesn't suffer from blur. But it does have burn-in... edit: I didn't read through the thread... this is just what I've been told. Last edited by MikeVic : 08-05-2008 at 11:04 AM. |
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Resident Alien
Join Date: Jun 2001
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I think plasmas are better for sports/games/movies. Getting the Panasonic plasmas with the anti-reflective screen solves the glare issue. Like this one, for instance.
Panasonic TH-50PX77U Flat-panel TV reviews - CNET Reviews Quote:
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#68 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hometown of Canada
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Hmm ok cool. If I read through this thread, will the question be answered for me whether I should get an LCD or a plasma?
How good is the burn-in protection on plasmas these days? I'm looking at these two TVs: http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...91&catid=23249 http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...44&catid=24558 Opinions? |
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#69 |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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FWIW I have not noticed any lag when gaming on my new Samsung LCD.
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Resident Alien
Join Date: Jun 2001
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The days of burn in being a problem on plasmas are pretty much over. Here's a good forum to read up on some of the common questions about HDTVs.
Flat Panel General & New FP Tech - AVS Forum |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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Those are both good selections mike and 2 that I would have suggested. The panasonic seems expensive. Its usually about 1199 here. It would be my first choice though. Even the 42px80 at 720p is a good choice for less money. The 50px80 is going for like 1099 stateside.
Shoot me a pm if you have any other questions. Don't buy any cables at all in the store. They are a serious rip off |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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Burn in is pretty much a non issue these days btw. You'd have to be extremely careless. Also the panasonics have screen wipe built in if you do start to noice image retention
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
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I have a Sony Bravia 46 KDL-46V3000 1080p LCD HDTV and I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE this TV.
Like most, I hate watching SDTV now. Xbox 360, Wii, HD-DVD's all look stunning on this TV. Finally caught a sale on dell.com and bought it. Don't listen when people tell you there isn't much of a difference, you'll see once you see HD in full action... especially a soccer game. ![]() |
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#74 |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
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I watch the SD channels in normal mode with the black bars on the left and right.. picture looks much better that way.. but with all the HD channels with dish now, we don't watch them all that much anymore anyway.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Black Hole
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Picked up the 52" Sony XBR4 at Best Buy about a month ago for $3,000. Also got $80 in Best Buy bucks today for the purchase.
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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Spike comedy and the nick channels are about it for us. We also have sd locals stiLl unfortunately. |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
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That's most of what we watch in HD.. the locals. Football is coming soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edit: you know you can buy an HD antenna that hooks into your TV that gets your local channels in HD right? They sell them at Walmart. Last edited by MizzouRah : 08-06-2008 at 07:48 PM. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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Yeah. I only have a 37 inch Monitor unfortunately. No tuner. Looks like direct gets youngstown sometime soon. Hopefully dish is soon thereafter. I tried to hook an antenna into the dish box but it wasn't working. May have been the room it was in. Regardless I need to figure out how to get the CW before the new 90210 starts. |
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Checkraising Tourists
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cocoa Beach, FL
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After doing a lot of research, I bought the Toshiba Regza 42RV530U 42” HD LCD TV, and I couldn’t be more pleased with the results so far.
Since I’m a novice to the HDTV world, I thought I would share this with others who might be in the same boat. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with Cox HD Cable for the next few months (Scientific Atlanta 8300 converter box), and it appears that I’m getting a better picture (especially on the non-HD channels) by letting the broadcast signal pass through the box in its native format (480i, 720p or 1080i) and letting the HDTV do the conversion, rather than having the cable box “upconvert” the signal to 1080i before it goes to the TV. Do any of you more experienced HDTV owners have any experience with this? |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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That's what I did. Much better if you output the sd at 480i and then let the TV do the work. I think I turned off any of the stretch stuff as well |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
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We are looking at buying our first HDTV a LCD one and am wondering what is the basic difference between the 1080P AND 720P? The TV is going to be a 32inch if that matters.
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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It is the resolution of the screen. Think of it in computer terms. 1080P is 1920X1080 resolution, and 720P is generally 1280X720. The P is for progressive scan, meaning it draws each horizontal line every refresh period, and i is for interlace, where it draws every other horizontal line every refresh period.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Black Hole
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Dell has a good deal on a Sharp Aquos 42" 1080p LCD: Dell : SHARP Sharp 42" LC42SB45U 1080p LCD HDTV : Video Conferencing : Home & Home Office
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College Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)
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Since you guys seem to know wthat the heck you are talking about, and someone brought up tube tv's, I've got a question. I've got an old 36" Sony Wega Flatscreen HDTV. According the manual, it supports 480p, 480i, and 1080p. Does that make sense to you? I didn't even realize it did 1080 until I read the manual online today. I got Direct HD about a month ago, and when I ran the test with the receiver, and got no picture 720, I didn't bother to run the test with 1080. It won't do 1080p, because it doesn't have an HDMI input. So what exactly the difference between 480p and 1080i?
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Backwoods, SC
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College Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)
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