College Football Week 13: THE BORDER WAR!!!!!!!!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sounds like quite a conflict, but I don't know why it would be called a border war.

I have to admit I found this comment from KU's CB to be funny after your post from yesterday. Evidently you aren't the only one that doesn't understand why a game is a rivalry.

The second-ranked Jayhawks and third-ranked (AP poll) Tigers will meet for the first time with national title implications for both, a fact that figures to amplify the intensity inherent in the rivalry with roots in the Civil War era.

"Ohio State-Michigan, I don't even know why they're rivals," Talib said, adding, "There's a reason why (we're) rivals."

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I have to admit I found this comment from KU's CB to be funny after your post from yesterday. Evidently you aren't the only one that doesn't understand why a game is a rivalry.

I never said I didn't understand why a game is a rivalry. I just questioned the name that the rivalry was given.

[Butter]

"Oooh, look at us, we've played one important game in 100 years and now our rivalry is the greatest of all time!"

Uh, no.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

"Oooh, look at us, we've played one important game in 100 years and now our rivalry is the greatest of all time!"

Uh, no.

Don't cry.

[Huckleberry]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

"Oooh, look at us, we've played one important game in 100 years and now our rivalry is the greatest of all time!"

Uh, no.

Why do people give a shit if their rivalry is the greatest?

Kansas/Missouri is a great, bitter, heated rivalry. And now the football game means a great deal. It's a huge thing in the local area.

Texas/OU is a great rivalry. Michigan/Ohio St. is a great rivalry. Who cares who says which is better?

My only concern is making sure people understand that Texas/OU is a bigger rivalry than Texas/Texas A&M. The Aggies seem to be bothered by that one.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

"Oooh, look at us, we've played one important game in 100 years and now our rivalry is the greatest of all time!"

Uh, no.

Dear jealous fans,

We're playing for a NCAA title spot and you're holding on to the past because that's all you've got.

Sincerely,

KU and MU

[Huckleberry]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Dear jealous fans,

We're playing for a NCAA title spot and you're holding on to the past because that's all you've got.

Sincerely,

KU and MU

Nevermind, then.

Carry on with the Kansas/Mizzou bashing.

Sheesh, you can always tell when someone's not used to being important.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Why do people give a shit if their rivalry is the greatest?

Kansas/Missouri is a great, bitter, heated rivalry. And now the football game means a great deal. It's a huge thing in the local area.

Texas/OU is a great rivalry. Michigan/Ohio St. is a great rivalry. Who cares who says which is better?

My only concern is making sure people understand that Texas/OU is a bigger rivalry than Texas/Texas A&M. The Aggies seem to be bothered by that one.

I agree. This is just something for talk radio to spew about for a while, and America, having nothing better to do, joins the fray.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Sheesh, you can always tell when someone's not used to being important.

As opposed to KU fans, who consider themselves God's gift to the college sports scene and know they're more important than anyone else.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Dear jealous fans,

We're playing for a NCAA title spot and you're holding on to the past because that's all you've got.

Sincerely,

KU and MU

I thought you guys were playing for a spot in the Big 12 Championship Game?

Those are eggs, not chickens.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I thought you guys were playing for a spot in the Big 12 Championship Game?

Those are eggs, not chickens.

OU and Texas are both looking up the rankings last I checked. As long as OU is without their starting running back (and possibly their starting QB) and Colt McCoy is the QB of Texas, I feel pretty good that the North winner has a good chance at winning the B12 championship.

Interesing side note: I'm guessing that Mack Brown is kicking himself right now for letting Chase Daniel and Todd Reesing out of the state of Texas while recruiting Perilloux (sp?) instead (who later went to LSU).

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

OU and Texas are both looking up the rankings last I checked. As long as OU is without their starting running back (and possibly their starting QB) and Colt McCoy is the QB of Texas, I feel pretty good that the North winner has a good chance at winning the B12 championship.

Interesing side note: I'm guessing that Mack Brown is kicking himself right now for letting Chase Daniel and Todd Reesing out of the state of Texas while recruiting Perilloux (sp?) instead (who later went to LSU).

There's a difference between "having a good chance at winning" and completely overlooking. It'll be fun to watch, either way. Especially considering it's either watch the game, or hang out with the in-laws!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

There's a difference between "having a good chance at winning" and completely overlooking.

As a fan, I can overlook anything. I don't have to focus on winning the game (thankfully).

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

As a fan, I can overlook anything. I don't have to focus on winning the game (thankfully).

Cool -- congratulations on winning the national title for the next 10 years!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Cool -- congratulations on winning the national title for the next 10 years!

*****basks in the glory of it all*****

[Pumpy Tudors]

You guys just wait until the Sun Belt is the premier football conference. You won't be able to shut me up.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Nevermind, then.

Carry on with the Kansas/Mizzou bashing.

Sheesh, you can always tell when someone's not used to being important.

Exactly. What is the old addage...act like you've been there before?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by bsak16

Exactly. What is the old addage...act like you've been there before?

That applies to players, but doesn't apply to fans. Fans are under no obligation to 'act the right way'. Not only that, but MU hasn't been in this position since 1960. That was the year that we would have played for the championship had KU not cheated and played an ineligible player against MU. KU won the game, but later had to forfeit it. Unfortunately, the damage was already done and MU missed its chance at a championship.

The idea that fans have to somehow curtail their comments is silly. They aren't going to post any of this banter on the locker room chalkboard.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

That applies to players, but doesn't apply to fans.

If you want to act like a jackass then go right ahead.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by bsak16

If you want to act like a jackass then go right ahead.

That wasn't what I said. Fans don't have to conform to the unwritten rule where you are modest about your chances in a game no matter what the strength of your opponent when you actually believe that you'll win the game. Fans can say whatever they want or overlook any opponent without worrying that their comments will be on a bulletin board in the opponent's locker room.

I personally think we'll expose Kansas quite easily. They haven't beat a team with more than 6 wins thus far. I don't see that changing on Saturday.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

As opposed to KU fans, who consider themselves God's gift to the college sports scene and know they're more important than anyone else.

QFT!

[albionmoonlight]

Since there are a lot of Big 12 fans in this thread, maybe you can tell me what a couple of terms mean:

"Boomer Sooner" and "Rock Chalk Jayhawk."

I know that Oklahoma is the Sooners, and that Kansas is the Jayhawk. But I can't tell why booming and rock chalking help the team--or even what the terms mean.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Missouri is like the Playstation 3. Kansas is like the Wii or 360.

QFT!!!! FTW!!!!

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

QFT!!!! FTW!!!!

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!!

Mmmmmmmm.........BBQ.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Since there are a lot of Big 12 fans in this thread, maybe you can tell me what a couple of terms mean:

"Boomer Sooner" and "Rock Chalk Jayhawk."

I know that Oklahoma is the Sooners, and that Kansas is the Jayhawk. But I can't tell why booming and rock chalking help the team--or even what the terms mean.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk origin.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Chalk,_Jayhawk

Boomer Sooner origin.......

http://www.soonersports.com/trads/what-is-a-sooner.html

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Dear jealous fans,

We're playing for a spot to get our asses handed to us by either Texas or Oklahoma in the Big XII title game.

Sincerely,

KU and MU

Fixed that for you.

[IMetTrentGreen]

Dude, Kansas would beat both our asses.

[CU Tiger]

2006 Rutgers = 2007 Kansas.
Relevent for the 1st (and likely last) time ever.
And they are making the most of it...

Love to say I dont understand, but unfortuantely I do.
It is the new cool thing to be a punk fan.
I see it more every year.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Let's be honest here. Those KU players sure do love those Chalupas.........

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/1999/no...spended_after/

Poor (stupid) Dion Rayford. There was talk of him being a second day draft pick (hey, we don't get many of those) until this.

SI

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by bsak16

Exactly. What is the old addage...act like you've been there before?

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

2006 Rutgers = 2007 Kansas.
Relevent for the 1st (and likely last) time ever.
And they are making the most of it...

Love to say I dont understand, but unfortuantely I do.
It is the new cool thing to be a punk fan.
I see it more every year.

I agree 100% towards the "we are relevant for the first and likely last time ever". So I think we are making the most of it- we can't act like we've been here before and I kindof dbout it will happen again. However, a lot of us are still in a daze about it, completely stunned. Again, it's a dream I'd just like never to be woken up from.

That said, I would just ask where have we (KU fans) been punk fans? Sure, there are always going to be punk fans for every school. But where, particularly on this board, have we been anything but, well, pleasantly stunned by this season and just trying to enjoy the moment? I don't recall any of us rubbing it in other's faces or anything like that unless I'm mistaken.

SI

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I thought you guys were playing for a spot in the Big 12 Championship Game?

Those are eggs, not chickens.

Amen.

SI

[Dr. Sak]

SI my comment was not directed at you in any way.

[Crim]

Rock Chalk, Jayhawk
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"Rock Chalk, Jayhawk" (a.k.a. the "Rock Chalk" chant) is a chant used at all University of Kansas Jayhawks sporting events and is well known throughout the nation by sports fans, particularly those who have attended a basketball game at Allen Fieldhouse and heard it loudly chanted. (Listen to the chant.)

The story of its origin most often told is that it was written by a Kansas chemistry professor, E.H.S. Bailey, and the University Science Club in 1886.

Its lyrics are a refrain of "Rock chalk... Jay-Hawk... KU," repeated twice slowly, and then three times quickly. It is usually preceded by the Kansas Alma Mater "Crimson and the Blue", and followed by the fight song, "I'm A Jayhawk".
It's also sung at the end of basketball games in Allen Fieldhouse and football games at Memorial Stadium if KU is winning by a significant amount and the other team has no hope of a comeback.

I can only gather that this is an extremely new phenomenon...?

[WVUFAN]

Question: of Missou and Kansas, which one matches up worst against Oklahoma? Missou already lost to the Sooners, right?

That's the one who should win. Go Missou!!

[sterlingice]

I'm guessing Mizzou would actually have a better shot since they faced OU already and have seen them. Also, they (rightfully) think they could have won that game if not for turnovers so there's no confidence gap.

SI

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by bsak16

SI my comment was not directed at you in any way.

No, I get that. Sorry, I didn't mean to direct my comments at you either. But I don't quite get some of the comments about our fans as I think, for the most part, we've been nothing except stunned and we really haven't been here before

Of course, there will be some clashing with Mizzou fans ("hating each other since before the Civil War!") as that happens every year, regardless of how good the teams are. That said, I wasn't raised here so I definitely don't have the hate that a lot of fans have

SI

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Also, they (rightfully) think they could have won that game if not for turnovers so there's no confidence gap.

I heard Chase Daniel say this as well, and I don't get it. Oklahoma was leading by 17 late in the 4th until Mizzou got a garbage TD to make it look closer. And OU had a couple of turnovers that led directly to MU scores if I remember correctly.

Now I'm not saying a rematch would be a lock for Oklahoma (and I've already said I'd rather see them play Kansas), but I think it'd be a better argument to say that Missouri lost the game because they didn't have a running game without Temple.

[sterlingice]

Well, in the first game, my impression was that Mizzou was down early, came back and was up going into the 4th quarter when they decided ball protection wasn't quite a crucial game component. I think most teams win when their opponent has 4 turnovers and you can't expect a good team to do that twice.

SI

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I think most teams win when their opponent has 4 turnovers and you can't expect a good team to do that twice.

SI

No doubt. I just find it interesting how many different ways one can spin a game. For instance, you could just as easily say that OU was down by a point going into the 4th because of missed extra points and then dominated down the stretch with pressuring defense and clutch offense while Mizzou caved and exposed their weaknesses when it mattered most.

[MizzouRah]

Mizzou let OU run down and score after the half, then Macklin fumbled and OU scored again.. pretty much killed the game.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC is playing very well tonight. Up 37-17 over ASU midway through the 3rd quarter as Booty just threw his 3rd TD of the night.

[Atocep]

Some excellent tackling by Arizona State there...

[JHandley]

Rudi Carpenter is going to snap like a rubber band in the NFL.

[tarcone]

I am a nuetral observer in St Louis area.
Missouri--High flying offense, great QB. Cannot tackle. Had an easy schedule. Toughest game they got spanked by OU.

Kansas-- High flying offense. Great QB. Schedule was pure cake. Not one tough opponent all season long. They even avoided OU, Texas and Texas Tech.

I give the nod to Kansas though, as Pinkel is a coach that tends to get outcoached. That will be the deciding factor.

[larrymcg421]

Great game on right now. Mississippi led 14-0 heading into the 4th quarter, but Mississippi State scored with 8:25 left to make it 14-7. Then with 2:38 remaining they return a punt 73 yards for a game tying TD. It is now 14-14 with 2:25 left.

[MJ4H]

Arkansas leading #1 LSU 7-6 in the 2nd quarter.

[larrymcg421]

Mississippi State kicks a 48 yard FG for the 17-14 lead with 18 seconds left.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Middle 2nd quarter - Arkansas leads LSU 7-6
Middle of the 3rd quarter - Delaware leads DSU 37-0 and I'm LMAO.
Late 4th - Colorado rallies to lead Nebraska 58-35 with a 34-0 edge in the 2nd half

[JonInMiddleGA]

Make that 44-0 Delaware late in the 3rd quarter.
523 yards total offense for the Blue Hens, 102 for DSU.
RB Omar Cuff has 288 yards & 4 TD's on 38 carries, giving him 33 TD's for the yr.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Talk about an implosive first half ... LSU QB Flynn is 7/21 for 50 yds