2008 NFL Offseason Thread - Page 2

Sublime 2 · 01-02-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'd prefer they take Ellis or Lauriniatis at 9 and then trade up to the mid to late first round and get a DE like Campbell or Harvey. They should get 3 or 4 sandwich picks this year, so they have the opportunity to get two high quality defensive starters if they're just a little aggressive.

I'd like to see the Pats grab Laurinitis at #7 if they decide to keep the pick. More likely though is that they trade down, and if they do I'd like to see them grab a CB: Cason from Arizona or one of the Jenkins (tOSU's or South Florida's). I haven't seen a lot of the other LB's aside from Laurinitis, Highsmith from LSU, and Hall from V-Tech, who are some of the other big name LBs in this draft?

Galaxy · 01-02-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MalcPow

The Bears grabbed Tommie Harris at #14 a few years ago, maybe it's a lucky spot for them? (I've got nothing...)

Edit to add: They also grabbed Michael Haynes the year before at #14, so, um, maybe not...

I don't know where the Bears will go in the draft. It depends on what they do at the quarterback spot. I think they made a dumb move last year by trading away Jones.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-03-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sublime 2

I'd like to see the Pats grab Katzenmoyer at #7 if they decide to keep the pick.

Really?

I see them looking at a corner to replace Samuel (should they let him go.)

Atocep · 01-03-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I don't know where the Bears will go in the draft. It depends on what they do at the quarterback spot. I think they made a dumb move last year by trading away Jones.

I don't think trading Jones was necessarily dumb, I think what they did with the draft pick they got from the Jets was dumb. Jones wouldn't have done any better than Benson did behind that O-Line this year. Angelo was an idiot for relying on an O-Line with 4 starters in their 30s to remain strong.

flere-imsaho · 01-03-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I don't know where the Bears will go in the draft. It depends on what they do at the quarterback spot. I think they made a dumb move last year by trading away Jones.

They were dumb to draft Benson in the first place, after Jones had already proven he could carry the load. Besides, nowadays we've seen that if you put up a good enough O-Line, you can put Coffee Warlord at tailback and still get 100 yards/game.

I'd like to see the Bears go all-out and try to get Donovan McNabb instead of getting a QB in the 1st round. The team's more in the position of being ready aside from the QB. The receiving corps isn't bad, Adrian Peterson's a good back, and the defense started showing some signs of life (provided they just replace Archuleta). Stick a good QB in there and they're right back in the hunt, to my mind.

Galaxy · 01-03-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

They were dumb to draft Benson in the first place, after Jones had already proven he could carry the load. Besides, nowadays we've seen that if you put up a good enough O-Line, you can put Coffee Warlord at tailback and still get 100 yards/game.

I'd like to see the Bears go all-out and try to get Donovan McNabb instead of getting a QB in the 1st round. The team's more in the position of being ready aside from the QB. The receiving corps isn't bad, Adrian Peterson's a good back, and the defense started showing some signs of life (provided they just replace Archuleta). Stick a good QB in there and they're right back in the hunt, to my mind.

I agree with you in the drafting Benson.

TazFTW · 01-04-2008, 11:10 PM

Davone Bess has hired an agent, so he's leaving. He was given a 2nd round grade from the NFL draft advisory board.

Ryan Grice-Mullins is considering leaving.

Warhammer · 01-05-2008, 10:59 AM

Two thoughts: The Rams better get a stud guy for the OL. Not only do they need depth, but there is no guarantee that Pace comes back fully from his injury.

Second, I thought Mendenhall was a sophomore. I would definitely stick around another year if I was him.

dervack · 01-05-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

They were dumb to draft Benson in the first place, after Jones had already proven he could carry the load. Besides, nowadays we've seen that if you put up a good enough O-Line, you can put Coffee Warlord at tailback and still get 100 yards/game.

I'd like to see the Bears go all-out and try to get Donovan McNabb instead of getting a QB in the 1st round. The team's more in the position of being ready aside from the QB. The receiving corps isn't bad, Adrian Peterson's a good back, and the defense started showing some signs of life (provided they just replace Archuleta). Stick a good QB in there and they're right back in the hunt, to my mind.

Ugh, Other than Berrian, who is as good as gone, who do they have at WR? Mushin? Devin?

Blade6119 · 01-05-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Two thoughts: The Rams better get a stud guy for the OL. Not only do they need depth, but there is no guarantee that Pace comes back fully from his injury.

Second, I thought Mendenhall was a sophomore. I would definitely stick around another year if I was him.

Hes a junior

Galaxy · 01-05-2008, 06:05 PM

Looks like Mendenhall is coming out.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7641446?MSNHPHMA

I didn't get a chance to watch the Rose Bowl or much of Illinois this year. What kind of back is he?

Balldog · 01-05-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Looks like Mendenhall is coming out.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7641446?MSNHPHMA

I didn't get a chance to watch the Rose Bowl or much of Illinois this year. What kind of back is he?

Thank god he is leaving. I'd compare him to a McFadden type back, but less hype. He had a great game against USC, 17 car for 155 yds and 5 rec for 59 yds.

JPhillips · 01-05-2008, 07:00 PM

Zook, though, said he needed to come back because he was a poor blocker. Wonder how much that will effect him.

Atocep · 01-05-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Zook, though, said he needed to come back because he was a poor blocker. Wonder how much that will effect him.

Thats Zook trying to make an excuse to get him to come back. Just about every back coming out of college is a poor blocker because its rare for college teams to use their top back as a blocker.

It won't affect his draft position at all, the only thing it would affect is how he's used as a rookie.

Logan · 01-05-2008, 07:14 PM

Adrian Peterson needs work as a blocker and obviously did great in his first year. It really wouldn't surprise me if Mendenhall followed him as the Offensive ROY.

TazFTW · 01-08-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Davone Bess has hired an agent, so he's leaving. He was given a 2nd round grade from the NFL draft advisory board.

Ryan Grice-Mullins is considering leaving.

RGM is leaving as he has signed with an agent. He reportedly received a 4th round grade.

LB Adam Leonard has decided to stay in school. I was expecting him to leave so that's a nice surprise.

Suburban Rhythm · 02-03-2008, 04:24 PM

Wasn't sure where to put this, didn't think it really merited it's own thread.

Saw a little blurb on ESPN News that the Raves are very interested in Donovan McNabb. Wasn't a big story, just a 1 line item in the "News Wired" segment. I believe it was reported by Mort, but not certain. They said the move would have to include Baltimore's #8 overall pick.

stevew · 02-09-2008, 09:26 AM

Franchise tag # for this year

Franchise tag salaries for 2008 by position:
Position | Millions
Quarterback $10.73
Cornerback $9.465
Defensive end $8.879
Linebacker $8.065
Wide receiver $7.848
Offensive line $7.455
Defensive tackle $6.363
Running back $6.538
Tight end $4.522
Safety $4.396
Kicker/punter $2.514

Thus far the Eagles have franchised TE LJ Smith, but that's about it.

JetsIn06 · 02-09-2008, 10:00 AM

Here are some rumored franchise tag applicants.
(from thejetsblog.com)

Confirmed
L.J. Smith - TE, Eagles [AP Newswire]
Rumored
Randy Moss — WR - Patriots [Sun Chronicle]
Albert Haynesworth — DT - Titans [ESPN.com]
Terrell Suggs — OLB - Ravens [Rotoworld via NFLN]
Nnamdi Asomugha — CB - Raiders [RealFootball365 via NFLN]
Karlos Dansby — LB - Cardinals [East Valley Tribune]
Jordan Gross — OT - Panthers [HeraldOnline]
Jared Allen — DE - Chiefs [Sporting News]
Dallas Clark — TE - Colts [Colts.com]
Rumored but Unlikely
Bernard Berrian — WR - Bears [Rotoworld via NFLN]
Flozell Adams — LT - Cowboys [Dallas Morning News]

stevew · 02-09-2008, 10:14 AM

I hold out some hope that the Steelers will decide to franchise G Alan Faneca, but that seems unlikely.

MikeVic · 02-09-2008, 11:17 AM

Yeah, I'm not reading good things with Faneca. Just pay him already.

jbergey22 · 02-09-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Adrian Peterson needs work as a blocker and obviously did great in his first year. It really wouldn't surprise me if Mendenhall followed him as the Offensive ROY.

It really will depend on who drafts him but I also wouldnt be surprised. I would say AP has that once every 10 year talent however and dont expect any back close to his talent in this draft.

watravaler · 02-09-2008, 12:31 PM

Mike Mayock's draft rankings...

Mendenhall ahead of McFadden...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsess...o&confirm=true

st.cronin · 02-09-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by watravaler

Mike Mayock's draft rankings...

Mendenhall ahead of McFadden...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsess...o&confirm=true

Also, Sedrick Ellis ahead of Glenn Dorsey, and Chad Henne the #2 QB. I would say his opinions are at odds with the mainstream.

bhlloy · 02-09-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Also, Sedrick Ellis ahead of Glenn Dorsey, and Chad Henne the #2 QB. I would say his opinions are at odds with the mainstream.

Kiper agrees with Ellis over Dorsey (last I checked), and Todd McShay has Ellis as his fastest rising player in the whole draft.

Dorsey is bigger and wider and will probably be the better run defender at the NFL level, but Ellis is faster and almost as strong and will be a dominant pass rusher from the 3 technique. Depends what you are looking for I guess. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

st.cronin · 02-09-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Kiper agrees with Ellis over Dorsey (last I checked), and Todd McShay has Ellis as his fastest rising player in the whole draft.

Dorsey is bigger and wider and will probably be the better run defender at the NFL level, but Ellis is faster and almost as strong and will be a dominant pass rusher from the 3 technique. Depends what you are looking for I guess. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

I'm not arguing the merits of one player or another. I just don't think it means a lot if one guy with a bunch of eccentric rankings has Mendenhall ahead of McFadden.

Atocep · 02-09-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm not arguing the merits of one player or another. I just don't think it means a lot if one guy with a bunch of eccentric rankings has Mendenhall ahead of McFadden.

I've read a couple comments from NFL scouts on concerns over McFadden's vision and they like both Felix Jones and Mendenhall over McFadden. So I don't think its out of the realm of possibility to see McFadden slipping a bit as teams start breaking down his film.

His ranking of Andre Woodson 5th is also in line with what I've read. Woodson was so bad at the All Star game he played in that he's almost assured to have dropped out of the 1st round and if he's just as bad at his pro day the scouts I read that commented say he may drop out of the first day entirely.

st.cronin · 02-09-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I've read a couple comments from NFL scouts on concerns over McFadden's vision and they like both Felix Jones and Mendenhall over McFadden. So I don't think its out of the realm of possibility to see McFadden slipping a bit as teams start breaking down his film.

His ranking of Andre Woodson 5th is also in line with what I've read. Woodson was so bad at the All Star game he played in that he's almost assured to have dropped out of the 1st round and if he's just as bad at his pro day the scouts I read that commented say he may drop out of the first day entirely.

There's always a lot of hyperbole after all-star games and combines.

JetsIn06 · 02-09-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I hold out some hope that the Steelers will decide to franchise G Alan Faneca, but that seems unlikely.

I'm pretty sure that I've heard he really wants to head to Arizona, but I've also heard the Jets will be very interested. Hoping the Jets give him some good money to fix their terrible offensive line.

bulletsponge · 02-09-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

I'm pretty sure that I've heard he really wants to head to Arizona.

he must be nuts

Galaxy · 02-09-2008, 04:26 PM

Who are the top "realistic" free agents? (That opens March 1st, correct?)

Any salary cap links?

Blade6119 · 02-09-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

he must be nuts

All of the steelers coaches are in AZ now, so it makes perfect sense.

stevew · 02-09-2008, 08:55 PM

There's no way Woodson should fall out of the first 3 rounds. I think technically "first day" is rds 1 and 2 this year. But Woodson in the 3rd is an educated gamble for probably 75% of the NFL franchises, at that round he's worth it as a developmental talent alone. Pull the FOF move, develop him and trade him for a couple 2's in a few years.

JetsIn06 · 02-09-2008, 09:18 PM

Some of the better UFA's at first glance

RB Michael Turner
WR Bernard Berrian
WR Terrance Copper
WR D.J. Hackett
WR Bryant Johnson
WR Randy Moss
WR Ernest Wilford
OG Jacob Bell
OG Alan Faneca
OT Flozell Adams
OT Stacy Andrews
DL Jared Allen
DL Albert Haynesworth
DL Tommy Kelly
DL Justin Smith
DL Randy Starks
DL Terrell Suggs
LB Boss Bailey
LB Lance Briggs
LB Karlos Dansby
LB Calvin Pace
CB Asante Samuel
SS Yeremiah Bell
FS Madieu Williams

Here's a list I stole from another forum of some of the better unrestricted free agents. If you open up the spoiler button it will show the whole list.

Spoiler

stevew · 02-12-2008, 11:39 AM

Shorty's going to have to buy a new jersey.......

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23120543/

Redskins interested in trade for Chad Johnson
Report says Snyder wants to acquire elite receiver

The Washington Redskins may be looking to help their rookie coach Jim Zorn, as they are interested in pursuing a trade for disgruntled Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chad Johnson, according to the Washington Post.

The report said that Redskins owner Daniel Snyder was eager to add a top-notch receiver to his roster, and had Johnson at the top of his list. It also said that Johnson, according to two league sources, was "eager to land a hefty new contract from Washington."

The Bengals have said they do not want to trade Johnson, but the receiver's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, is said to be working behind the scenes to facilitate a trade, the Post reported.

rkmsuf · 02-12-2008, 11:40 AM

Jim Zorn: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

JPhillips · 02-12-2008, 11:43 AM

No way that trade happens without it being multiple first round picks. The cap hit the Bengals would take means they would have to be ridiculously overpaid to get rid of Ocho Cinco.

rkmsuf · 02-12-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

No way that trade happens without it being multiple first round picks. The cap hit the Bengals would take means they would have to be ridiculously overpaid to get rid of Ocho Cinco.

8 million in dead money approx

stevew · 02-12-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

No way that trade happens without it being multiple first round picks. The cap hit the Bengals would take means they would have to be ridiculously overpaid to get rid of Ocho Cinco.

multiple #1's....lofl Maybe like a first and third max. 2008 Cap difference between trading him, and keeping him is only a difference of 2.5m. Bengals are a bunch of cheap bitches at the top of the organization, so it's possible they will pursue a standoff. They should have had balls and never re-did Chad's contract in the first place, that was a stupid move.

JPhillips · 02-12-2008, 01:22 PM

I don't think he's worth that much, but the organization shouldn't lose their most dangerous receiver and take an eight mil cap hit without a ridiculous offer.

Butter · 02-12-2008, 01:47 PM

The Bengals are usually so far under the cap, what's another $8 million?

stevew · 02-19-2008, 12:33 PM

Let's see....

bengals franchise Andrews.
Zach Thomas gets offer from Patriots, still hasn't signed anywhere.

This should make Suburban Rhythmn smile

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From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

The Steelers signed backup defensive end Travis Kirschke to a two-year contract, the team announced today

Combine is this weekend, I'm pumped.

Fighter of Foo · 02-19-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The Bengals are usually so far under the cap, what's another $8 million?

Have you seen their defense?

rjolley · 02-19-2008, 12:39 PM

Bears news:

DE Alex Brown signs a 2-year extension

WR Muhsin Muhammad and OT Fred Miller were released.

DT Darwin Walker's option was declined, making him a free agent.

Also, all 3 Bears' LB's (Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher and Hunter Hillenmeyer) tallied 100+ tackles, first time that's happened, for the Bears, since 1986 (Mike Singletary, Wilber Marshall, and Otis Wilson).

rkmsuf · 02-19-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

Have you seen their defense?

No, they are rarely seen much on the field.

miami_fan · 02-19-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Let's see....

bengals franchise Andrews.
Zach Thomas gets offer from Patriots, still hasn't signed anywhere.

Obviously the Dolphins had more talent than I thought. Pats are also talking to Marty Booker.

johnnyshaka · 02-19-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Obviously the Dolphins had more talent than I thought. Pats are also talking to Marty Booker.

Welker worked out so well, why wouldn't they go back to the well?!?!

jbergey22 · 02-19-2008, 02:39 PM

Well I see the WR position is once again loaded with talent. I guess the Vikings will have to go sign Moss. Very weak FA class IMO. Id love to see them bring in former gopher Ben Utecht as well.

Galaxy · 02-19-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

Bears news:

DE Alex Brown signs a 2-year extension

WR Muhsin Muhammad and OT Fred Miller were released.

DT Darwin Walker's option was declined, making him a free agent.

Also, all 3 Bears' LB's (Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher and Hunter Hillenmeyer) tallied 100+ tackles, first time that's happened, for the Bears, since 1986 (Mike Singletary, Wilber Marshall, and Otis Wilson).

Seems like Jerry Angelo is trying to shake things up.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/footb...bear19.article

rjolley · 02-19-2008, 04:09 PM

Glad they came to their senses and decided to try and resign Briggs. I was hoping they'd let Grossman go and worry about a RB and improving the OL. As '06 proved, a solid D + a solid running game = a trip to the superbowl.

01-04-2008, 11:10 PM	#57
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Davone Bess has hired an agent, so he's leaving. He was given a 2nd round grade from the NFL draft advisory board. Ryan Grice-Mullins is considering leaving. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

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02-03-2008, 04:24 PM	#67
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Wasn't sure where to put this, didn't think it really merited it's own thread. Saw a little blurb on ESPN News that the Raves are very interested in Donovan McNabb. Wasn't a big story, just a 1 line item in the "News Wired" segment. I believe it was reported by Mort, but not certain. They said the move would have to include Baltimore's #8 overall pick. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

02-09-2008, 10:00 AM	#69
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Here are some rumored franchise tag applicants. (from thejetsblog.com) Confirmed L.J. Smith - TE, Eagles [AP Newswire] Rumored Randy Moss — WR - Patriots [Sun Chronicle] Albert Haynesworth — DT - Titans [ESPN.com] Terrell Suggs — OLB - Ravens [Rotoworld via NFLN] Nnamdi Asomugha — CB - Raiders [RealFootball365 via NFLN] Karlos Dansby — LB - Cardinals [East Valley Tribune] Jordan Gross — OT - Panthers [HeraldOnline] Jared Allen — DE - Chiefs [Sporting News] Dallas Clark — TE - Colts [Colts.com] Rumored but Unlikely Bernard Berrian — WR - Bears [Rotoworld via NFLN] Flozell Adams — LT - Cowboys [Dallas Morning News] Last edited by JetsIn06 : 02-09-2008 at 10:00 AM.

02-09-2008, 09:18 PM	#84
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Some of the better UFA's at first glance RB Michael Turner WR Bernard Berrian WR Terrance Copper WR D.J. Hackett WR Bryant Johnson WR Randy Moss WR Ernest Wilford OG Jacob Bell OG Alan Faneca OT Flozell Adams OT Stacy Andrews DL Jared Allen DL Albert Haynesworth DL Tommy Kelly DL Justin Smith DL Randy Starks DL Terrell Suggs LB Boss Bailey LB Lance Briggs LB Karlos Dansby LB Calvin Pace CB Asante Samuel SS Yeremiah Bell FS Madieu Williams Here's a list I stole from another forum of some of the better unrestricted free agents. If you open up the spoiler button it will show the whole list. Spoiler QUARTERBACKS QB Todd Collins QB Daunte Culpepper QB Quinn Gray QB Rex Grossman QB Tim Hasselbeck QB Sam Hollenbach QB Cleo Lemon QB Jared Lorenzen QB Jamie Martin QB Josh McCown QB Craig Nall QB J.T. 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01-05-2008, 10:59 AM	#58
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Two thoughts: The Rams better get a stud guy for the OL. Not only do they need depth, but there is no guarantee that Pace comes back fully from his injury. Second, I thought Mendenhall was a sophomore. I would definitely stick around another year if I was him.

01-05-2008, 06:05 PM	#61
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Looks like Mendenhall is coming out. http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7641446?MSNHPHMA I didn't get a chance to watch the Rose Bowl or much of Illinois this year. What kind of back is he?

01-05-2008, 07:14 PM	#65
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Adrian Peterson needs work as a blocker and obviously did great in his first year. It really wouldn't surprise me if Mendenhall followed him as the Offensive ROY.

02-09-2008, 09:26 AM	#68
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Franchise tag # for this year Franchise tag salaries for 2008 by position: Position \| Millions Quarterback $10.73 Cornerback $9.465 Defensive end $8.879 Linebacker $8.065 Wide receiver $7.848 Offensive line $7.455 Defensive tackle $6.363 Running back $6.538 Tight end $4.522 Safety $4.396 Kicker/punter $2.514 Thus far the Eagles have franchised TE LJ Smith, but that's about it.

02-09-2008, 10:14 AM	#70
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I hold out some hope that the Steelers will decide to franchise G Alan Faneca, but that seems unlikely.

02-09-2008, 11:17 AM	#71
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Yeah, I'm not reading good things with Faneca. Just pay him already.

02-09-2008, 12:31 PM	#73
watravaler High School JV Join Date: Jun 2005	Mike Mayock's draft rankings... Mendenhall ahead of McFadden... http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsess...o&confirm=true

02-09-2008, 04:26 PM	#81
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Who are the top "realistic" free agents? (That opens March 1st, correct?) Any salary cap links?

02-09-2008, 08:55 PM	#83
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	There's no way Woodson should fall out of the first 3 rounds. I think technically "first day" is rds 1 and 2 this year. But Woodson in the 3rd is an educated gamble for probably 75% of the NFL franchises, at that round he's worth it as a developmental talent alone. Pull the FOF move, develop him and trade him for a couple 2's in a few years.

02-12-2008, 11:40 AM	#86
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Jim Zorn: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-12-2008, 11:43 AM	#87
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	No way that trade happens without it being multiple first round picks. The cap hit the Bengals would take means they would have to be ridiculously overpaid to get rid of Ocho Cinco. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

02-12-2008, 01:22 PM	#90
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I don't think he's worth that much, but the organization shouldn't lose their most dangerous receiver and take an eight mil cap hit without a ridiculous offer. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

02-12-2008, 01:47 PM	#91
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	The Bengals are usually so far under the cap, what's another $8 million? __________________ My listening habits

02-19-2008, 12:39 PM	#94
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Bears news: DE Alex Brown signs a 2-year extension WR Muhsin Muhammad and OT Fred Miller were released. DT Darwin Walker's option was declined, making him a free agent. Also, all 3 Bears' LB's (Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher and Hunter Hillenmeyer) tallied 100+ tackles, first time that's happened, for the Bears, since 1986 (Mike Singletary, Wilber Marshall, and Otis Wilson). Last edited by rjolley : 02-19-2008 at 12:43 PM.

02-19-2008, 02:39 PM	#98
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Well I see the WR position is once again loaded with talent. I guess the Vikings will have to go sign Moss. Very weak FA class IMO. Id love to see them bring in former gopher Ben Utecht as well.

02-19-2008, 04:09 PM	#100
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Glad they came to their senses and decided to try and resign Briggs. I was hoping they'd let Grossman go and worry about a RB and improving the OL. As '06 proved, a solid D + a solid running game = a trip to the superbowl.

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