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Old 04-29-2006, 08:13 AM   #51
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Anyone know if there's a way I can hear draft coverage online?

I know that ESPN radio was going to cover the draft. Not sure if that extend to the online version though. I do remember listening to Sporting News radio for draft coverage when I was overseas

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Old 04-29-2006, 08:17 AM   #52
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I like bold predictions, Jim. LB Bobby Carpenter has been on a lot of mocks as a late 1st rounder... you say middle of the 3rd round. You also have C Nick Mangold dropping down into the second round - another guy on lots of first round mocks.

Any chance that your maize and blue colored glasses are at work here, or do you have some insider skinny?


I might hurt someone in Cleveland if we draft a TE in the second round. I might not like Winslow but TE isn't that big a need for us
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:21 AM   #53
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I haven't seen anyone else picking DT John McCargo that highly (Jim has him going at #24 to Cinti).

Honestly, I seem to be forgetting NC State's glorious national championship run llast year, what with all these superstar players. THREE defensive linemen from the same school all going in the first round (or close to it) just seems crazy, unless that team was a total monster.

McCargo's a character guy who didn't have a great combine. NC St. had a top-ten defense, but they also had about the worst offense in the ACC, which kept them on the field a lot.

I'm boosting ACC guys a bit this year because my perception is that the newly merged league had more talent on both sides of the ball.
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:24 AM   #54
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What happen to all the auto refreshing draft charts that used to be around, on Sporting News and Espn? I'm not able to find then this year...
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:26 AM   #55
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I like bold predictions, Jim. LB Bobby Carpenter has been on a lot of mocks as a late 1st rounder... you say middle of the 3rd round. You also have C Nick Mangold dropping down into the second round - another guy on lots of first round mocks.

Any chance that your maize and blue colored glasses are at work here, or do you have some insider skinny?

Nothing wrong with Mangold. I wouldn't be surprised if he slipped into the 1st. It's just a feeling that the teams drafting late in the 1st are all teams that like spending 1st-round picks on defensive players. I also think Pittsburgh has a bigger need at WR then they want to admit, and isn't going to be intimidated by the CW that the WR class sucks.

You'll notice I have the other three OSU guys going as high as expected, or higher. Hawk is going to be a superstar, and Whitner drove that secondary.

Carpenter's is certainly athletic enough. But people say he benefits too much from Hawk's presence, and he has a big character-flaw checkmark next to his name. Linebackers can not be head cases. Just watch Ernie Sims going up and down people's charts. No one questions his ability or his results, it's all about the collective determination of whether he deserves that checkmark.

Teams will take a chance on a head-case at many positions. Not linebacker, not quarterback, not offensive line. No one will bite on those until their talent really starts to stand out among other possible picks. I'll bet there are several boards that don't even include Carpenter.

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Old 04-29-2006, 08:30 AM   #56
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I'm boosting ACC guys a bit this year because my perception is that the newly merged league had more talent on both sides of the ball.

No it didn't. That's just what ESPN wants you to think.
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:32 AM   #57
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I like bold predictions, Jim. LB Bobby Carpenter has been on a lot of mocks as a late 1st rounder... you say middle of the 3rd round. You also have C Nick Mangold dropping down into the second round - another guy on lots of first round mocks.

Any chance that your maize and blue colored glasses are at work here, or do you have some insider skinny?

I saw that Carpenter pick and couldn't believe it either.
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:37 AM   #58
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No it didn't. That's just what ESPN wants you to think.

They really whipped up on the SEC this year. That's very important, because the southeast, which has more than its share of athletes, is the only place where there are two major conferences competing.
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:43 AM   #59
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Well this will be the year that my beloved Cards will take a QB in the first round...because this is the year they shouldn't be taking one. They committed themselves to Warner by signing him to a three-year deal. Doesn't make sense to take a QB in the first round who will llikely be on the bench for a good chunk of those three years.

Actually, I see them getting help on the offensive/defensive line or a linebacker.
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Old 04-29-2006, 08:52 AM   #60
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They really whipped up on the SEC this year. That's very important, because the southeast, which has more than its share of athletes, is the only place where there are two major conferences competing.

Huh?

Here are the results of SEC-ACC games from last year by team:

Boston College - ducked the SEC
Clemson - Beat South Carolina 13-9
Duke - scared of the SEC
Florida State - Lost 34-7 to Florida
Georgia Tech - beat Auburn 23-14, lost to Georgia 14-7
Maryland - no games vs SEC
Miami (FL) - steamrolled by LSU 40-3
North Carolina - No SEC opponents
NC State - No SEC opponents
Virginia - No SEC opponents
Virginia Tech - No SEC opponents
Wake Forest - Lost to Vanderbilt 24-20

So going 2-4 against another conference when your 2 "best" teams get their asses handed to them is whipping up on someone? WOW. And that Auburn win which was solid was week 1. If they played again at the end of the year, Georgia Tech would have gotten served.
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Old 04-29-2006, 09:10 AM   #61
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Old 04-29-2006, 09:56 AM   #62
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You keep saying that, yet everything I see has him solidly as a second rounder.

Yeah, the latest mocks are showing him in the second now. But up until recently a lot of them had him as a possible late first rounder...

Uhhh...what I meant was that Jim has him going in the first round.
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Old 04-29-2006, 10:00 AM   #63
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Anyone know if there's a way I can hear draft coverage online?

http://www.theticket.com will have coverage.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:02 AM   #64
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ESPN Radio has internet coverage:

http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/radio?play=live

Try this link for their DraftCast with Chat.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/...ftyear%3d2006#
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:03 AM   #65
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That was the gayest into to any sporting event ever.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:03 AM   #66
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I have to say that was an awful opening start to the draft
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:04 AM   #67
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Agreed. However, I still can't wait to see all of this really get going.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:05 AM   #68
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That was the gayest into to any sporting event ever.

I missed it. What happened? Did Subby somehow get an invite?
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:06 AM   #69
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So how many picks will the Saints be able to steal from another team?
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:11 AM   #70
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I missed it. What happened? Did Subby somehow get an invite?
I think he was holding the camera
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:12 AM   #71
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I hate when the NFL wastes 15 minutes on this crap. Just make the pick
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:13 AM   #72
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Agreed. You've made the contract deal. Announce the pick.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:15 AM   #73
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15 minutes is too long in any case. 5 minutes would make for a much better show.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:17 AM   #74
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I'm really tired of hearing Mort repeat the 6 out of 6 GM comment over and over again in favor of Mario. Only once as he mentioned that another poll of 26 GM's said that 20 of the 26 would take Reggie Bush 1st.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:19 AM   #75
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I hate when the NFL wastes 15 minutes on this crap. Just make the pick

Okay, now taking 15 minutes makes sense.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:19 AM   #76
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Whose coverage are you watching: ESPN or NFL. I'm trying to flip between both of them.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:20 AM   #77
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Okay, now taking 15 minutes makes sense.

Totally. I just hate it when the #1 team takes 15 minutes to make a pick. You had 4 months to think about it already.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:21 AM   #78
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What do you think? Jets move up here? I could see that happening.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:22 AM   #79
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Bush - Just say no to turf. Come to SF!
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:23 AM   #80
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Hey all, there's a draft chat going on. Check Solecismic's stickied thread for details.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:24 AM   #81
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I change my mind, there is no way you give up another 1st rounder and a 3rd to move up two spots. Ferguson is good enough at #4 for all the holes they have in NY.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:24 AM   #82
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Hey all, there's a draft chat going on. Check Solecismic's stickied thread for details.

I'm having trouble getting it to work for some reason.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:28 AM   #83
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If they keep Bush, I just became much more likely to buy multiple Saints' tickets this year.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:28 AM   #84
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No excitement. No shakeup. Just a swap of picks between #1 and #2 teams choices.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:31 AM   #85
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No excitement. No shakeup. Just a swap of picks between #1 and #2 teams choices.


They could still deal him to the Jets or another team..
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:31 AM   #86
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So...is big Vince going to NYC? Or are they going to play it safe?
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:35 AM   #87
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So is Duece going to be willing to play 2nd fiddle to Bush?
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:35 AM   #88
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Shoulda gone last year huh Leinart.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:36 AM   #89
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Wow....

Owner wins in Tennessee.

Wonder if the Jets are going to be pressured to pick Leinart.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:40 AM   #90
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Bah, the talkin' heads are being too PC. Just tell me who you think will be the better qb.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:43 AM   #91
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Raiders must be drooling to possibly have the chance for Leinhart to fall to them at 7
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:45 AM   #92
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:45 AM   #93
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Couldn't they pick Leinart and deal him later?
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No doubt. This new regime has no idea what they've gotten themselves into.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:47 AM   #95
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Wow, they're actually happier about that than I thought overall.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:49 AM   #96
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I like this call. The Jets need to protect those immobile qb's. Though I dont think Ferguson is worth that high a pick.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:50 AM   #97
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Interesting. The next 2 teams both chose a QB last season, but both would undoubtedly have selected Leinhart over the guy they from last season's draft.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:50 AM   #98
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Leinhart now to Raiders or Cardinals?
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:51 AM   #99
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Whose coverage are you watching: ESPN or NFL. I'm trying to flip between both of them.

Flipping between the two as well. I am trying to avoid Michael Irvin and interviews.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:51 AM   #100
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I'm quite satisfied with that pick
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