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TazFTW · 07-22-2005, 01:17 PM

Heh, that hockeyrumors site mock lottery.

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#4-Toronto Maple Leafs
#3-Atlanta Thrashers
#2-Philadelphia Flyers
#1-avalanche

Honolulu_Blue · 07-22-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Yes and no. I take any opportunity I can to mock you, but I also love the Wings. Best of both worlds.

Wait. I thought you hated the Wings? Or... No! That was someone else from the Michigan area. I was confused! GO WINGS!!!!

Logan · 07-22-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

i beg to differ, I think just about every team in the league would have a MAJOR problem with it...

My biggest problem in the lottery is punishing teams that made the playoffs....whose to say what could have happend last year......Calgary came out of nowhere to win the cup.....how do we know Brodeur doesnt get hurt, NJ sucks and finishes close to last, with a great shot in the regular lottery......the fact that the lottery is weighted is unfair...it should be an equal change for every team, but this is the way it is, and im glad my Leafs have a shot at him....

assigning the pic to the Rangers, man, thats going way overboard

Your argument is the common one made by those who feel like you do, and its definitely valid. Surely anything can happen. But, for example, there was no chance the Rangers would have finished last season with anything better than a record that would put them in the bottom 5 spots in the entire league. There would have been about 6 NHL caliber players on the roster. I can pretty confidently say a few more teams would have done the same thing. Same goes for Detroit, Colorado, etc finishing near the top. Of course someone integral could get hurt, but what are the chances a team like that won't go out and trade for someone to fill in? But to give those teams such a shot to get #1 is just bad in my opinion. That's why I like the system I said before. Guarantee the top 5 or so picks to NYR, CHI, NSH, CLB, etc. Then fill in the rest.

Johnny93g · 07-22-2005, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Your argument is the common one made by those who feel like you do, and its definitely valid. Surely anything can happen. But, for example, there was no chance the Rangers would have finished last season with anything better than a record that would put them in the bottom 5 spots in the entire league. There would have been about 6 NHL caliber players on the roster. I can pretty confidently say a few more teams would have done the same thing. Same goes for Detroit, Colorado, etc finishing near the top. Of course someone integral could get hurt, but what are the chances a team like that won't go out and trade for someone to fill in? But to give those teams such a shot to get #1 is just bad in my opinion. That's why I like the system I said before. Guarantee the top 5 or so picks to NYR, CHI, NSH, CLB, etc. Then fill in the rest.

I see your point, i just dont agree with it.....Chances are 1 team who people think would suck, just wouldnt....and one favourite, would struggle badly.....it happens......i dont want to assume anything for a season that didnt happen, and the fairest way to determine the draft order is an equal lottery. i dont like penazling teams for the 05 draft based on what happend during 01-03....just doesnt make sense to me

Logan · 07-22-2005, 01:45 PM

Hehe...you said "favourite"...wacky Canadians.
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That was my way of saying I have no other way to come back on your argument.

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Bring on the lottery!

jbmagic · 07-22-2005, 01:50 PM

can the draft be view on Espn TV today too?

Johnny93g · 07-22-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Hehe...you said "favourite"...wacky Canadians.
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That was my way of saying I have no other way to come back on your argument.

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Bring on the lottery!

haha...72 minutes

rkmsuf · 07-22-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Heh, that hockeyrumors site mock lottery.

What the heck is a mock lottery?

Johnny93g · 07-22-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

can the draft be view on Espn TV today too?

www.tsn.ca will be streaming it if you cant watch it in the states

sovereignstar · 07-22-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

www.tsn.ca will be streaming it if you cant watch it in the states

Man, that stream is already getting it's ass kicked.

jbmagic · 07-22-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

www.tsn.ca will be streaming it if you cant watch it in the states

i am in Los Angeles.

so only way is thru the internet?

not being shown on TV?

Johnny93g · 07-22-2005, 01:59 PM

no clue if its being shown in the US....

General Mike · 07-22-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i am in Los Angeles.

so only way is thru the internet?

not being shown on TV?

MSG Network is showing it.

Stan Fishler is picking Vancouver to win the lottery.

bronconick · 07-22-2005, 02:05 PM

Both Fox Sports North and Fox Sports Detroit are showing it.

bob · 07-22-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Man, that stream is already getting it's ass kicked.

the audio only stream from the NHL website is doing much better.

Wolfpack · 07-22-2005, 02:07 PM

With all this build-up, I'm sitting here thinking, "Is there any chance that Crosby could bust?" I'm not too close in on hockey, but in just about any other sport, if a player has this much hype in advance of being drafted, there's a decent chance he'll either boom or bust, bust in this case being anything but boom. What if he's not the Great One II?

rkmsuf · 07-22-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

MSG Network is showing it.

Stan Fishler is picking Vancouver to win the lottery.

I can see that. I hear their ping pong ball has been working out hard in the offseason.

bob · 07-22-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I can see that. I hear their ping pong ball has been working out hard in the offseason.

nice.

jbmagic · 07-22-2005, 02:14 PM

so far there showing the press conference on fox sports network in Los Angeles.

so hopefully they will show the draft after too.

General Mike · 07-22-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

With all this build-up, I'm sitting here thinking, "Is there any chance that Crosby could bust?" I'm not too close in on hockey, but in just about any other sport, if a player has this much hype in advance of being drafted, there's a decent chance he'll either boom or bust, bust in this case being anything but boom. What if he's not the Great One II?

What if he's Eric Lindros without the concussions?

General Mike · 07-22-2005, 02:18 PM

The cable outlets that will show TSN's telecast in their viewing areas are Altitude in Denver; Comcast Sports Net in Chicago, the Mid-Atlantic area and Philadelphia; and New York's MSG Network.

sovereignstar · 07-22-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bob

the audio only stream from the NHL website is doing much better.

Not anymore.

Maple Leafs · 07-22-2005, 02:20 PM

Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00.

(Just kidding.)

sovereignstar · 07-22-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00.

(Just kidding.)

Asshat!

rkmsuf · 07-22-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00.

(Just kidding.)

that's a sure fire way to guarantee #30.

jbmagic · 07-22-2005, 02:26 PM

this press conference got me all pump up for the upcoming season.

i didnt think i will feel this way after last season was cancel.

Schmidty · 07-22-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Wait. I thought you hated the Wings? Or... No! That was someone else from the Michigan area. I was confused! GO WINGS!!!!

You thought I hated the Wings? You're crazy. I've basically watched every single game that's been televised since the late 80's on the PASS network. I go back to the days of Gallant, Norwood, Oates, Burr, Chiasson, Probert, Ogrodnick, Racine, Cheveldae, Barr, etc.....

TazFTW · 07-22-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

so far there showing the press conference on fox sports network in Los Angeles.

so hopefully they will show the draft after too.

It was on FSN Northwest, then some guy said several regions will switch to something else. We were one of the regions.

And they switched to some NASCAR show...

Seriously is NASCAR bigger in the northwest than hockey? Freakin' Kasey Kahne.

jbmagic · 07-22-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

It was on FSN Northwest, then some guy said several regions will switch to something else. We were one of the regions.

And they switched to some NASCAR show...

Seriously is NASCAR bigger in the northwest than hockey? Freakin' Kasey Kahne.

damn same here. this sucks.

sovereignstar · 07-22-2005, 02:45 PM

Silly me. It's been on FSN North the whole time.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-22-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

You thought I hated the Wings? You're crazy. I've basically watched every single game that's been televised since the late 80's on the PASS network. I go back to the days of Gallant, Norwood, Oates, Burr, Chiasson, Probert, Ogrodnick, Racine, Cheveldae, Barr, etc.....

Ah... Those were good times... Good times... Not all that successful times, but fun nonetheless!

Maple Leafs · 07-22-2005, 02:53 PM

Jumpin' Jack Flash?

bob · 07-22-2005, 02:57 PM

yeah, that was a bit odd.

Wolfpack · 07-22-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Jumpin' Jack Flash?

And a rather bad rendition of it at that....

sovereignstar · 07-22-2005, 03:01 PM

Here we go, girls!

General Mike · 07-22-2005, 03:03 PM

go Lottery!

TazFTW · 07-22-2005, 03:05 PM

Okay, at least NHL.com's video stream is now working for me.

General Mike · 07-22-2005, 03:05 PM

30. Tampa Bay
29. Florida
28. Dallas
27. Colorado
26. Calgary
25. Edmonton
24. St. Louis
23. New Jersey
22. Boston
21. Toronto

sachmo71 · 07-22-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

30. Tampa Bay
29. Florida

Are they starting from the bottom?

SackAttack · 07-22-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

29. Florida

Lame.

sovereignstar · 07-22-2005, 03:08 PM

Where's Montreal again?

Edit: 'Atta boy, Taz!

kingfc22 · 07-22-2005, 03:08 PM

so far so good....Sharks #1 pick

TazFTW · 07-22-2005, 03:09 PM

Meh, the TSN guys were saying all the Canada teams were gone.

Wolfpack · 07-22-2005, 03:09 PM

They're going by 10s and they're now doing interviews after the first 10...no annoucement for MTL yet.

kingfc22 · 07-22-2005, 03:09 PM

dola

Are the odds wieghted? If so, are they posted anywhere?

ShaqFu · 07-22-2005, 03:11 PM

They announced the odds. Some teams got 3 balls, more teams got 2 and most teams appeared to get 1 ball. Fairly even really.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-22-2005, 03:11 PM

Phew! Colorado is out at #27 and the Wings are still in it... Come on, lads! Only 19 more to go!

SackAttack · 07-22-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

dola

Are the odds wieghted? If so, are they posted anywhere?

Read the thread. There's a discussion of the ping pong balls on page one, I believe.

Wolfpack · 07-22-2005, 03:11 PM

Go poking around in some of the NHL threads. Someone should have described the system there. In short, playoff teams and lottery winners from the last three years have less chance of picking #1 this year than others.

HomerJSimpson · 07-22-2005, 03:13 PM

DON"T CALL ATLANTA! DON"T CALL ATLANTA!

07-22-2005, 01:50 PM	#56
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	can the draft be view on Espn TV today too? Last edited by jbmagic : 07-22-2005 at 01:50 PM.

07-22-2005, 01:59 PM	#62
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	no clue if its being shown in the US.... __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

07-22-2005, 02:20 PM	#73
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Sportsnet news in Canada is reporting that the lottery is done, with Toronto getting the #1 pick. Full results will be announced at 4:00. (Just kidding.) __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-22-2005, 02:53 PM	#82
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Jumpin' Jack Flash? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-22-2005, 03:05 PM	#88
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	30. Tampa Bay 29. Florida 28. Dallas 27. Colorado 26. Calgary 25. Edmonton 24. St. Louis 23. New Jersey 22. Boston 21. Toronto Last edited by General Mike : 07-22-2005 at 03:08 PM.

07-22-2005, 01:45 PM	#55
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Hehe...you said "favourite"...wacky Canadians. . . . . That was my way of saying I have no other way to come back on your argument. . Bring on the lottery!

07-22-2005, 02:05 PM	#64
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Both Fox Sports North and Fox Sports Detroit are showing it.

07-22-2005, 02:07 PM	#66
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	With all this build-up, I'm sitting here thinking, "Is there any chance that Crosby could bust?" I'm not too close in on hockey, but in just about any other sport, if a player has this much hype in advance of being drafted, there's a decent chance he'll either boom or bust, bust in this case being anything but boom. What if he's not the Great One II?

07-22-2005, 02:14 PM	#69
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	so far there showing the press conference on fox sports network in Los Angeles. so hopefully they will show the draft after too.

07-22-2005, 02:18 PM	#71
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	The cable outlets that will show TSN's telecast in their viewing areas are Altitude in Denver; Comcast Sports Net in Chicago, the Mid-Atlantic area and Philadelphia; and New York's MSG Network.

07-22-2005, 02:26 PM	#76
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	this press conference got me all pump up for the upcoming season. i didnt think i will feel this way after last season was cancel.

07-22-2005, 02:45 PM	#80
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Silly me. It's been on FSN North the whole time.

07-22-2005, 02:57 PM	#83
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	yeah, that was a bit odd.

07-22-2005, 03:01 PM	#85
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Here we go, girls!

07-22-2005, 03:03 PM	#86
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	go Lottery!

07-22-2005, 03:05 PM	#87
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Okay, at least NHL.com's video stream is now working for me.

07-22-2005, 03:08 PM	#91
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Where's Montreal again? Edit: 'Atta boy, Taz! Last edited by sovereignstar : 07-22-2005 at 03:08 PM.

07-22-2005, 03:08 PM	#92
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	so far so good....Sharks #1 pick __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-22-2005, 03:09 PM	#93
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Meh, the TSN guys were saying all the Canada teams were gone.

07-22-2005, 03:11 PM	#96
ShaqFu H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Florida	They announced the odds. Some teams got 3 balls, more teams got 2 and most teams appeared to get 1 ball. Fairly even really.

07-22-2005, 03:11 PM	#97
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Phew! Colorado is out at #27 and the Wings are still in it... Come on, lads! Only 19 more to go! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

07-22-2005, 03:13 PM	#100
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	DON"T CALL ATLANTA! DON"T CALL ATLANTA!

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