NFL Free Agency - Page 2

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Is Bradie James the new starter then or do the Cowboys go after someone else?

I would have figured Brady James would have started without the departure of Coakley, since the Cowboys are switching to a 3-4. It would have either looked like;

Coakley - Nguyen - Singleton - James

or

Coakley - Nguyen - James - Singleton

Now with Coakley gone, the Cowboys' have a need at LB. Haven't given much thought to the Cowboys' switching to the 3-4 but now I know why several mock drafts have had them selecting DE Shawne Merriman from Maryland, who a lot of scouts see as an OLB in the 3-4. David Pollack also looks to be a DE turned rush LB.

Ksyrup · 03-02-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

I would have figured Brady James would have started without the departure of Coakley, since the Cowboys are switching to a 3-4. It would have either looked like;

Coakley - Nguyen - Singleton - James

or

Coakley - Nguyen - James - Singleton

Now with Coakley gone, the Cowboys' have a need at LB. Haven't given much thought to the Cowboys' switching to the 3-4 but now I know why several mock drafts have had them selecting DE Shawne Merriman from Maryland, who a lot of scouts see as an OLB in the 3-4. David Pollack also looks to be a DE turned rush LB.

Not according to the ESPN article:

In a Tuesday morning meeting, coach Bill Parcells told Coakley that the Cowboys would like to retain him, even if it meant releasing him then re-signing him, but that his role would be reduced as Dallas moved to a 3-4 defense.

Had he opted to remain with the Cowboys, it is likely that Coakley would have played a "nickel" linebacker role, but the Rams project him as a starter. St. Louis is rebuilding its linebacker corps and is seeking to add another veteran, possibly unrestricted free agent Chris Claiborne of Minnesota, in coming days.

JAG · 03-02-2005, 04:40 PM

The Cowboys were going to get at least one and maybe two LB's in free agency / draft / trade anyway. Coakley's been good for us, but he's getting up there in age so I don't really have a problem with the move.

Word is Dallas has signed CB Anthony Henry. Don't know much about him except that he's definitely going to be an upgrade at right corner.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 04:43 PM

Yeah, I mentioned that if the Cowboys' decided to stand pat with their current LB corps. Coakley (and Nguyen for that matter) are not the type of LBs that Parcells like.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 06:37 PM

ESPN.com is saying the Ferguson deal is not done but they're close.

Marco Rivera G is visiting Dallas tonight.

Fonzie · 03-02-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Marco Rivera G is visiting Dallas tonight.

Damn. It'd be nice if the Packers could keep at least one of their two starting guards.

Arles · 03-02-2005, 07:28 PM

Joe Andruzzi just signed with the Browns for 4 years, $9 million. Wish GB would have pursued him as that's dirt cheap for a solid guard.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Word is Dallas has signed CB Anthony Henry. Don't know much about him except that he's definitely going to be an upgrade at right corner.

Pasquarelli is reporting the deal with Henry is 5 years.

Pasq also reports the Ferguson deal is done. Here are the details "The deal is a five-year, $21.5 million contract that includes a signing bonus of $9 million and will pay him $11.5 million in the first two seasons of the pact."

cthomer5000 · 03-02-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

dola

John Clayton says the Raiders have signed Lamont Jordan to a 5 year deal (no details mentioned, although I've seen $4 mil a year).

Good for him. He's a great back but obviously would never get the needed time behind Curtis. I wish him the best of luck.

FrogMan · 03-02-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Joe Andruzzi just signed with the Browns for 4 years, $9 million. Wish GB would have pursued him as that's dirt cheap for a solid guard.

yeah, and it makes me sad to see him go, I liked him.

Among other Pats news, they cut Roman Phifer and Troy Brown...

FM

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 07:47 PM

dola

John Clayton says the Raiders have signed Lamont Jordan to a 5 year deal (no details mentioned, although I've seen $4 mil a year).

mckerney · 03-02-2005, 07:51 PM

Fox Sports reports that DT Pat Williams has agreed to terms with the Vikings.

Williams and Williams in the middle next year.

mckerney · 03-02-2005, 07:52 PM

Dola: 3 years, $13 million for Williams.

sovereignstar · 03-02-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Dola: 3 years, $13 million for Williams.

Does that put them at the minimum yet?

JAG · 03-02-2005, 08:08 PM

SI is reporting the Pats are going to trade a 3rd rounder and a swap of like picks in another round for Cardinals CB Duane Starks.

BTW, that deal for Pat Williams looks great for the Vikings. I'm surprised he wasn't able to command more cashola.

I think Dallas overpaid for Ferguson, but alas that was likely the needed price to keep him out of the Jets' hands.

EDIT: Yep.

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Credit the salesmanship of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and coach Bill Parcells, the man who drafted Ferguson while coaching the Jets, with convincing the defensive tackle to sign. Earlier in the evening, Ferguson informed agent Jimmy Sexton that he wanted to fly home to Memphis to discuss the offers from the Cowboys and the Jets with his wife. But Jones prevailed, hustling home from a league meeting in Atlanta earlier in the day, to help recruit Ferguson.

Ferguson clearly agonized over his decision, and the Jets felt confident they could get him back, but Dallas raised its offer and clearly made a strong sales pitch.

Although he has never played in the Pro Bowl and never registered more than 4½ sacks in a season, Ferguson was a highly coveted player in this year's free agent pool, and the competition for his services was heated. So determined were the Jets to keep him that, on Tuesday, the team dispatched assistant general manager Mike Tannenbaum to Memphis, unannounced, to meet with Sexton.

Several other teams, beyond the Jets and Cowboys, were also in pursuit and most of them phoned Sexton shortly after the free agency period began.

mckerney · 03-02-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

BTW, that deal for Pat Williams looks great for the Vikings. I'm surprised he wasn't able to command more cashola.

Yeah, Ted Cottrel may have helped talked another former Bill into joining the Vikings. He should be great at nose tackle lining up next to Kevin Williams.

Hopefully they can add Antonio Pierce soon as well.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 08:27 PM

The Cowboys gave Anthony Henry a $10 mil signing bonus.

sovereignstar · 03-02-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Yeah, Ted Cottrel may have helped talked another former Bill into joining the Vikings. He should be great at nose tackle lining up next to Kevin Williams.

Hopefully they can add Antonio Pierce soon as well.

This is from The Insiders

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While the word is good on the Williams front, it now looks much less likely that the Vikings will sign LB Antonio Pierce, who seems to be priced out of what the Vikings were considering spending.

mckerney · 03-02-2005, 08:34 PM

Damn.

sovereignstar · 03-02-2005, 08:36 PM

Okay, so now it looks like Pierce has gone to the Giants for 26.5 over 6 with a 6.5 bonus.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 08:36 PM

Full details of the Henry deal.

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Henry will get a five-year, $25 million deal. The fourth-year veteran will bank a $10 million signing bonus, a $1 million roster bonus in 2005 and a $1 million roster bonus in 2006. He will be paid $18 million over the first three years of his contract.

Arles · 03-02-2005, 10:24 PM

Colts just released TE Marcus Pollard
Eagles resigned Buckholter
Jags signed DE Reggie Hayward to a 5-year $25 million deal ($10 mil guaranteed)

Danny · 03-02-2005, 10:27 PM

The Raiders have now fit Charles Woodson, Randy Moss and Lamont Jodan under the cap while cutting some near useless players (Ray Buchanon, Roland Williams, John Parella, Ty Wheatley, Frank Middleton).

They also restructured Kerry Collins, Rich Gannon, Barry Sims and one or two other players.

I am very happy with this signing. Jordan has looked excellent whenever I have seen him and while he hasn't proven he can be a 300+ carry back, with the Raiders passing game, he should be very successful.

Now, they just need to somehow improve the defense.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

SI is reporting the Pats are going to trade a 3rd rounder and a swap of like picks in another round for Cardinals CB Duane Starks.

Done deal and they swap 5th round picks.

Danny · 03-02-2005, 10:43 PM

Once again a nice move by the Pats getting Starks. He is not a very good corner for teams without pass rush, but is a good guy for their system

Tigercat · 03-03-2005, 12:18 AM

There is a rumor that a trade of Donovan Darius for Darren Howard is in the works.

Vinatieri for Prez · 03-03-2005, 12:54 AM

Out with Law, in with Starks. It seems they opted to give up a draft pick instead of spending crazy dollars on a CB in free agency. See what Henry got from the Cowboys!

I think they also are getting him to restructure his contract. I believe he had 2 years left at 3.6 mill a year. If that number comes down from there even more, I say that is not a bad cap number for the next couple of years for a solid CB, which is all they need in Foxboro (although the 3rd rounder would have been nice to get a solid LB prospect in the draft). I am wondering if Tyrone Poole is going to be gone now. I think so.

albionmoonlight · 03-03-2005, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

There is a rumor that a trade of Donovan Darius for Darren Howard is in the works.

Where's the rumor from?

FrogMan · 03-03-2005, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

Out with Law, in with Starks. It seems they opted to give up a draft pick instead of spending crazy dollars on a CB in free agency. See what Henry got from the Cowboys!

I think they also are getting him to restructure his contract. I believe he had 2 years left at 3.6 mill a year. If that number comes down from there even more, I say that is not a bad cap number for the next couple of years for a solid CB, which is all they need in Foxboro (although the 3rd rounder would have been nice to get a solid LB prospect in the draft). I am wondering if Tyrone Poole is going to be gone now. I think so.

Thing that's bugging me about Starks is I'm reading he's been injured more often than not. Anybody can confirm that? (was actually gonna ask "any Cards fan can confirm that?" but thought better of it

)

FM

Thomkal · 03-03-2005, 07:34 AM

As one of the few Cardinal fans out there, Starks was injured in all his seasons with the Cards, missing 6 games in 2002, the entire season in 2003, and two games this past season. Looking at his injury page at SI.com, he's had a ton of injuries.

At first I was questioning this deal, because I'm not sure who else they have at corner, but Starks isn't getting any younger and with those injuries, perhaps it was a good time to part with him and get some value for him.

rkmsuf · 03-03-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Lions fans on the various Lions boards out there are going nuts right now. They want action and they want it now!

Kurt Warner was in town

WSUCougar · 03-03-2005, 01:14 PM

LB Antonio Pierce to the Giants (six-years, $26 million)

Honolulu_Blue · 03-03-2005, 01:17 PM

Lions fans on the various Lions boards out there are going nuts right now. They want action and they want it now!

rkmsuf · 03-03-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Pierce reportedly ended discussions with the Vikings when he found that the signing bonus wouldn't be paid until this summer.

Seems kind of weak. I mean it's not like they are going to run out of GTA San Andreas or something.

mckerney · 03-03-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

LB Antonio Pierce to the Giants (six-years, $26 million)

Pierce reportedly ended discussions with the Vikings when he found that the signing bonus wouldn't be paid until this summer.

rkmsuf · 03-03-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

The Giants would need that guy but I don't see the Vikings as needing to spend for that guy.

If the Vikings take on Burress they might as well have kept Moss unless it's a very cheap deal.

The Giants if can see splurging on him though and it making some kind of sense.

Swaggs · 03-03-2005, 02:07 PM

Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

TazFTW · 03-03-2005, 02:09 PM

Len Pasquarelli is reporting that the Texans have signed free agent LB Morlon Greenwood (Dolphins) to a five-year, $22.5 million contract including a $7 million signing bonus. Greenwood will earn salaries of $540,000 (for 2005), $2.56 million (2006), $3.4 million (2007), $4 million (2008) and $5 million (2009). Those salaries include $100,000 workout bonuses for some seasons.

Nick Eatman of DallasCowboys.com says the Cowboys' are close to signing Marco Rivera.

mckerney · 03-03-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

Burress would be a good fit as the #2 WR here.

sovereignstar · 03-03-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

Not doubting you or anything, but what's your source here?

rkmsuf · 03-03-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Burress would be a good fit as the #2 WR here.

I really question how good that guy is.

Maybe he'd be a good #2 but what kind of money does that cost the Vikes?

JAG · 03-03-2005, 02:31 PM

Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to terms with free agent G Mike Wahle (Packers). Terms of the deal weren't available immediately, but it's believed Wahle was seeking a signing bonus in excess of $10 million.

Panthers were under the radar here...I hadn't heard they were even in the running here.

rkmsuf · 03-03-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

With Red still at the helm you can be sure they won't pay too much. Paying enough is not even likely.

Then I guess you are in the clear.

WSUCougar · 03-03-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Panthers were under the radar here...I hadn't heard they were even in the running here.

Me either, but I like it. I'm a closet Panthers' fan (3rd fave team).

mckerney · 03-03-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I really question how good that guy is.

Maybe he'd be a good #2 but what kind of money does that cost the Vikes?

With Red still at the helm you can be sure they won't pay too much. Paying enough is not even likely.

Swaggs · 03-03-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Not doubting you or anything, but what's your source here?

From ESPN Insider:

Plaxico Burress
Steelers

Mar. 3 - The Giants are interested in wide receiver Plaxico Burress, but will likely take a wait-and-see approach until his market is set, The New York Daily News reports. "I have talked to the Giants very briefly," Burress' agent, Michael Harrison, told The New York Post. "I think their top priority was offensive line and linebacker, and then they're gonna kind of flip it and see what's going on, see how much money they have left."

According to The Post, Burress is likely headed for Minnesota to replace Randy Moss.

TazFTW · 03-03-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

ESPN.com has Broncos SS Kenoy Kennedy going to the Lions.

Not a done deal. He is visiting the Lions today though.

rkmsuf · 03-03-2005, 02:59 PM

Well I know the Pats gave him little respect in their game planning. They put munchins, one on one on him and he didn't get open.

The good game he had, one catch was total luck in the endzone on a ball underthrown.

Swaggs · 03-03-2005, 03:01 PM

It is hard to say how good he is or can be, really. I know I have seen him play a lot over the years, and his size and speed make him pretty hard to match up with. He has a bad reputation from doing some stupid things his first few years (spiking the ball after a catch for a 1st Down w/o being touched that resulted in a fumble, public intoxication, having loud parties in an "old money" neighborhood), but in the past two or three seasons, I think he has matured and works hard now. He is overshadowed by Hines Ward, but Burress is a real good blocker.

With the Steelers, until this season (and that could just be a jinx), he never had great QBs to work with (Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox) and has always played in a run first offense. I love Ward and would choose him over Burress in a second, but I would imagine other teams worried alot more about matching up with Burress than Ward.

I would guess that Burress, if he played in the Vikings offense and stayed healthy, would put up 80+ catches and 1250+ yards. I don't see him doing anything, number-wise, beyond his typical Steelers' years playing for the Giants.

Kodos · 03-03-2005, 03:03 PM

What I like is that Plaxico's departure will help my man Antwaan Randle El move into a starting role.

03-02-2005, 07:28 PM	#57
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03-02-2005, 10:24 PM	#72
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Colts just released TE Marcus Pollard Eagles resigned Buckholter Jags signed DE Reggie Hayward to a 5-year $25 million deal ($10 mil guaranteed) __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-03-2005, 01:14 PM	#82
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	LB Antonio Pierce to the Giants (six-years, $26 million) __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

03-03-2005, 01:17 PM	#83
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03-03-2005, 02:07 PM	#87
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-02-2005, 04:40 PM	#53
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	The Cowboys were going to get at least one and maybe two LB's in free agency / draft / trade anyway. Coakley's been good for us, but he's getting up there in age so I don't really have a problem with the move. Word is Dallas has signed CB Anthony Henry. Don't know much about him except that he's definitely going to be an upgrade at right corner.

03-02-2005, 04:43 PM	#54
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Yeah, I mentioned that if the Cowboys' decided to stand pat with their current LB corps. Coakley (and Nguyen for that matter) are not the type of LBs that Parcells like.

03-02-2005, 06:37 PM	#55
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	ESPN.com is saying the Ferguson deal is not done but they're close. Marco Rivera G is visiting Dallas tonight.

03-02-2005, 07:47 PM	#61
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	dola John Clayton says the Raiders have signed Lamont Jordan to a 5 year deal (no details mentioned, although I've seen $4 mil a year).

03-02-2005, 07:51 PM	#62
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Fox Sports reports that DT Pat Williams has agreed to terms with the Vikings. Williams and Williams in the middle next year.

03-02-2005, 07:52 PM	#63
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Dola: 3 years, $13 million for Williams.

03-02-2005, 08:27 PM	#67
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The Cowboys gave Anthony Henry a $10 mil signing bonus.

03-02-2005, 08:34 PM	#69
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Damn.

03-02-2005, 08:36 PM	#70
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Okay, so now it looks like Pierce has gone to the Giants for 26.5 over 6 with a 6.5 bonus.

03-02-2005, 10:27 PM	#73
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	The Raiders have now fit Charles Woodson, Randy Moss and Lamont Jodan under the cap while cutting some near useless players (Ray Buchanon, Roland Williams, John Parella, Ty Wheatley, Frank Middleton). They also restructured Kerry Collins, Rich Gannon, Barry Sims and one or two other players. I am very happy with this signing. Jordan has looked excellent whenever I have seen him and while he hasn't proven he can be a 300+ carry back, with the Raiders passing game, he should be very successful. Now, they just need to somehow improve the defense.

03-02-2005, 10:43 PM	#75
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Once again a nice move by the Pats getting Starks. He is not a very good corner for teams without pass rush, but is a good guy for their system

03-03-2005, 12:18 AM	#76
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	There is a rumor that a trade of Donovan Darius for Darren Howard is in the works.

03-03-2005, 12:54 AM	#77
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Out with Law, in with Starks. It seems they opted to give up a draft pick instead of spending crazy dollars on a CB in free agency. See what Henry got from the Cowboys! I think they also are getting him to restructure his contract. I believe he had 2 years left at 3.6 mill a year. If that number comes down from there even more, I say that is not a bad cap number for the next couple of years for a solid CB, which is all they need in Foxboro (although the 3rd rounder would have been nice to get a solid LB prospect in the draft). I am wondering if Tyrone Poole is going to be gone now. I think so.

03-03-2005, 07:34 AM	#80
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	As one of the few Cardinal fans out there, Starks was injured in all his seasons with the Cards, missing 6 games in 2002, the entire season in 2003, and two games this past season. Looking at his injury page at SI.com, he's had a ton of injuries. At first I was questioning this deal, because I'm not sure who else they have at corner, but Starks isn't getting any younger and with those injuries, perhaps it was a good time to part with him and get some value for him.

03-03-2005, 02:09 PM	#88
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Len Pasquarelli is reporting that the Texans have signed free agent LB Morlon Greenwood (Dolphins) to a five-year, $22.5 million contract including a $7 million signing bonus. Greenwood will earn salaries of $540,000 (for 2005), $2.56 million (2006), $3.4 million (2007), $4 million (2008) and $5 million (2009). Those salaries include $100,000 workout bonuses for some seasons. Nick Eatman of DallasCowboys.com says the Cowboys' are close to signing Marco Rivera.

03-03-2005, 02:31 PM	#92
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to terms with free agent G Mike Wahle (Packers). Terms of the deal weren't available immediately, but it's believed Wahle was seeking a signing bonus in excess of $10 million. Panthers were under the radar here...I hadn't heard they were even in the running here.

03-03-2005, 02:59 PM	#98
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Well I know the Pats gave him little respect in their game planning. They put munchins, one on one on him and he didn't get open. The good game he had, one catch was total luck in the endzone on a ball underthrown. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-03-2005, 03:01 PM	#99
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	It is hard to say how good he is or can be, really. I know I have seen him play a lot over the years, and his size and speed make him pretty hard to match up with. He has a bad reputation from doing some stupid things his first few years (spiking the ball after a catch for a 1st Down w/o being touched that resulted in a fumble, public intoxication, having loud parties in an "old money" neighborhood), but in the past two or three seasons, I think he has matured and works hard now. He is overshadowed by Hines Ward, but Burress is a real good blocker. With the Steelers, until this season (and that could just be a jinx), he never had great QBs to work with (Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox) and has always played in a run first offense. I love Ward and would choose him over Burress in a second, but I would imagine other teams worried alot more about matching up with Burress than Ward. I would guess that Burress, if he played in the Vikings offense and stayed healthy, would put up 80+ catches and 1250+ yards. I don't see him doing anything, number-wise, beyond his typical Steelers' years playing for the Giants. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-03-2005, 03:03 PM	#100
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	What I like is that Plaxico's departure will help my man Antwaan Randle El move into a starting role.

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