Kansas City-Denver (Sunday Night Game) - Page 2

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

cthomer5000, i think he meant choosing the team playing against them as the high so the only duplicates are the 3 divisional foes. Not to pick KC every week. But I could be wrong.

SI

ahhh yes. Not a bad strategy at all actually.

I think I might take a tougher road early in the attempt to go all the way. I don't like Atlanta, but I picked them for high against San Fran and they barely came through for me today.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:11 PM

Great catch by Lelie.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

ahhh yes. Not a bad strategy at all actually.

I think I might take a tougher road early in the attempt to go all the way. I don't like Atlanta, but I picked them for high against San Fran and they barely came through for me today.

who was your low ? I believe that you can lose the game, but still go through if your high is greater than your low.

sterlingice · 09-12-2004, 10:12 PM

Um... woo?

SI

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Aadik

who was your low ? I believe that you can lose the game, but still go through if your high is greater than your low.

high: atlanta
low: cleveland

Yeah, even though Cleveland won I think I'm still good, right?

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:12 PM

damniT!!! i need those points.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:13 PM

gotta love the slow-motion replay where you can watch Griffen's expression as the ball bounces into the end zone while he's trapped under 2 guys.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

high: atlanta
low: cleveland

Yeah, even though Cleveland won I think I'm still good, right?

by my understanding - ya. I think the actual game is irrelevant- pick the high loser in a 55-50 game and pick the low as the winner in a 3-0 game- you're probably the big winner.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:13 PM

as long as this game doesn't end in a 24-24 tie, the over is a winning bet.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

gotta love the slow-motion replay where you can watch Griffen's expression as the ball bounces into the end zone while he's trapped under 2 guys.

he's had a pretty good day, but Denver seems to be trying to lose this game.

sterlingice · 09-12-2004, 10:14 PM

You know, I just can't get all that behind the Chiefs. Sure, I've lived in Lawrence for over 7 years now but they just seem like the big bandwagon team so I still can't get that excited.

But watching the games is like required social interaction. It's insane- every man, woman, and child in 100 mile radius knows what happened to the Chiefs on Sunday (or Monday).

SI

JAG · 09-12-2004, 10:15 PM

Thank you Griffin for saving my money team this week. Now, if only Rod Smith could catch a couple of TD passes, maybe my FOFC team could be saved...

ISiddiqui · 09-12-2004, 10:17 PM

Damn... I had Griffin on the bench in favor of Fred Taylor this week. Oops.

Next week, I won't make the same mistake

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GrantDawg · 09-12-2004, 10:21 PM

Well, Holmes has just about completely negated the great day Alexander had for my opponent. Still need a few ponts to win, though. Another td or two would do nicely.

MikeVic · 09-12-2004, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Thank you Griffin for saving my money team this week. Now, if only Rod Smith could catch a couple of TD passes, maybe my FOFC team could be saved...

Hey hey. You don't want that now. I wonder when they update the defensive TDs? It's starting to get me worried.

You're only down by 7 now I think?

kingfc22 · 09-12-2004, 10:23 PM

That last fumble by Griffin might end up costing me this week. I was down 30 points going into this game and my opp. has the KC defense. If he would have scored I would be up by 1 point. Come on Griffin, just get me 1 more TD!!!

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:24 PM

They're driving again... I think it's safe to say Gunther Cunningham wasn't the answer to the K.C. defensive woes.

TLK · 09-12-2004, 10:25 PM

from Sportsline...

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Missing Fumble Return in Scoreboard
Tampa Bay's fumble recovery for a TD is not appearing on scoreboard at this time. This situation will be resolved overnight. As always, the scoreboard results are not official until the following morning.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:26 PM

I just dont see why they're running Griffin through the middle, negating his speed- KC's been vulnerable to taking him on the outside.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:27 PM

hooray.

MikeVic · 09-12-2004, 10:34 PM

Ok, thanks TLK.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:34 PM

What the hell happened to Larry Johnson? Couldn't he be getting a few carries here?

JAG · 09-12-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Hey hey. You don't want that now. I wonder when they update the defensive TDs? It's starting to get me worried.

You're only down by 7 now I think?

Relax, you've won, I've given up. At least it was close...but your darn Rams players facing Arizona doomed me...along with Portis' big day.

sterlingice · 09-12-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

What the hell happened to Larry Johnson? Couldn't he be getting a few carries here?

Well, you could ride the horse that's brought you this far or some guy who isn't nearly as good. I think it's an easy call.

SI

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:39 PM

That LJ draft pick just seems like an even worse idea now- lets take the worst defense in the league and not improve it strategy.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Well, you could ride the horse that's brought you this far or some guy who isn't nearly as good. I think it's an easy call.

SI

I'm not saying Johnson is as good, I'm just saying it's puzzling that he doesn't even get 4-5 carries a game in such a run-heavy offense. It doesn't even appear that Johnson is the #2 back. That's pretty surprising.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aadik

That LJ draft pick just seems like an even worse idea now- lets take the worst defense in the league and not improve it strategy.

Well, you have to recall that Holmes was coming off a pretty serious hip injury.

MikeVic · 09-12-2004, 10:43 PM

Ok, in the last 3 minutes, the commentators have compared Griffin to Barry Sanders, and Plummer to John Elway.

sterlingice · 09-12-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aadik

That LJ draft pick just seems like an even worse idea now- lets take the worst defense in the league and not improve it strategy.

Well, back when it happened, it was a CYA move partially because Holmes was injured, partially to have leverage in contract negotiations. No one liked it at the time unless it did turn out Holmes was really hurt.

SI

MikeVic · 09-12-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Relax, you've won, I've given up. At least it was close...but your darn Rams players facing Arizona doomed me...along with Portis' big day.

I sure hope I win.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Ok, in the last 3 minutes, the commentators have compared Griffin to Barry Sanders, and Plummer to John Elway.

Griffin to Sanders is a fair comparison, IMHO. Obviously the build is similar, but Griffin is more decisive and less of a "moves" back.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:45 PM

This is a great drive by the way.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:46 PM

this whole game is a lot of fun - a rare enjoyable football game for me. Jake Plummer is running like he's Mike Vick.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Well, back when it happened, it was a CYA move partially because Holmes was injured, partially to have leverage in contract negotiations. No one liked it at the time unless it did turn out Holmes was really hurt.

SI

I recall the injury, but still- with Rb, you dont need a 1st rounder, as recent history has shown. The defense then and now still had crying needs.

sterlingice · 09-12-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Griffin to Sanders is a fair comparison, IMHO. Obviously the build is similar, but Griffin is more decisive and less of a "moves" back.

It didn't occur to me until the week before the season that this was the same Quentin Griffin who I loved to watch run in Big XII games and never understood why he was picked so low in the draft, especially after that 300 or whatever yard game.

SI

kingfc22 · 09-12-2004, 10:49 PM

Is it just me or does Griffin give away the play before the snap? Each time they have close-up'd on Plummer and Griffin in the background, if Griffin has his mouthpiece in it has been a run. And each time his mouthpiece has been out it has been a pass.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:49 PM

holy shit, that was amazing- what a run. Portis is not going to be missed. and that 6 years, 18 million deal KC gave Woods is just amazing right now.

sterlingice · 09-12-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aadik

I recall the injury, but still- with Rb, you dont need a 1st rounder, as recent history has shown. The defense then and now still had crying needs.

Well, like I said, few people liked the move.

SI

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:50 PM

Well, you certainly cannot question the Portis trade right now.

ISiddiqui · 09-12-2004, 10:50 PM

I think Griffin is trying to show me up for not starting him

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And to think, I got laughed at in a fantasy draft of mine for drafting Plummer.

kingfc22 · 09-12-2004, 10:51 PM

I need a Griffin TD right here for a win this week.

kingfc22 · 09-12-2004, 10:52 PM

dola

damn

JAG · 09-12-2004, 10:52 PM

That's twice they've scored on that.

NoMyths · 09-12-2004, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Griffin to Sanders is a fair comparison, IMHO. Obviously the build is similar, but Griffin is more decisive and less of a "moves" back.

Except for the 497 to 15,269 yds difference, the 4.3 to 5.0 YPC difference, and the 2 to 99 TD difference. And the power back to finesse back difference. Yeah, completely similar.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:53 PM

so, if there was any offense that could score 10 points in 2 min, I would imagine it would be KC.

Crapshoot · 09-12-2004, 10:53 PM

Should end up at +14, which isnt bad- I wouldnt have the damn Giants scoring 17 pts.

cthomer5000 · 09-12-2004, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths

Except for the 497 to 15,269 yds difference, the 4.3 to 5.0 YPC difference, and the 2 to 99 TD difference. And the power back to finesse back difference. Yeah, completely similar.

Griffin is a 'power back' in your book? Are you kidding me?

NoMyths · 09-12-2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Griffin is a 'power back' in your book? Are you kidding me?

No, but I was rephrasing your "decisive" vs "moves", which seemed like a fair difference. Or are you saying he's a "moves" vs. a "moves"?

NoMyths · 09-12-2004, 10:56 PM

dola...

And he's still too wet behind the ears to compare to the great Barry.

ISiddiqui · 09-12-2004, 10:57 PM

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Except for the 497 to 15,269 yds difference, the 4.3 to 5.0 YPC difference, and the 2 to 99 TD difference.

So no young player can ever be compared to a vetern or retired player EVER?

09-12-2004, 10:12 PM	#54
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Um... woo? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-12-2004, 10:14 PM	#61
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	You know, I just can't get all that behind the Chiefs. Sure, I've lived in Lawrence for over 7 years now but they just seem like the big bandwagon team so I still can't get that excited. But watching the games is like required social interaction. It's insane- every man, woman, and child in 100 mile radius knows what happened to the Chiefs on Sunday (or Monday). SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-12-2004, 10:17 PM	#63
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Damn... I had Griffin on the bench in favor of Fred Taylor this week. Oops. Next week, I won't make the same mistake . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-12-2004, 10:21 PM	#64
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Well, Holmes has just about completely negated the great day Alexander had for my opponent. Still need a few ponts to win, though. Another td or two would do nicely. Last edited by GrantDawg : 09-12-2004 at 10:21 PM.

09-12-2004, 10:23 PM	#66
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	That last fumble by Griffin might end up costing me this week. I was down 30 points going into this game and my opp. has the KC defense. If he would have scored I would be up by 1 point. Come on Griffin, just get me 1 more TD!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-12-2004, 10:12 PM	#56
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	damniT!!! i need those points.

09-12-2004, 10:15 PM	#62
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Thank you Griffin for saving my money team this week. Now, if only Rod Smith could catch a couple of TD passes, maybe my FOFC team could be saved...

09-12-2004, 10:26 PM	#69
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	I just dont see why they're running Griffin through the middle, negating his speed- KC's been vulnerable to taking him on the outside.

09-12-2004, 10:34 PM	#71
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Ok, thanks TLK.

09-12-2004, 10:39 PM	#75
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	That LJ draft pick just seems like an even worse idea now- lets take the worst defense in the league and not improve it strategy.

09-12-2004, 10:43 PM	#78
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Ok, in the last 3 minutes, the commentators have compared Griffin to Barry Sanders, and Plummer to John Elway.

09-12-2004, 10:46 PM	#83
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	this whole game is a lot of fun - a rare enjoyable football game for me. Jake Plummer is running like he's Mike Vick.

09-12-2004, 10:49 PM	#86
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Is it just me or does Griffin give away the play before the snap? Each time they have close-up'd on Plummer and Griffin in the background, if Griffin has his mouthpiece in it has been a run. And each time his mouthpiece has been out it has been a pass. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-12-2004, 10:50 PM	#90
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think Griffin is trying to show me up for not starting him . And to think, I got laughed at in a fantasy draft of mine for drafting Plummer. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-12-2004, 10:51 PM	#91
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I need a Griffin TD right here for a win this week. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-12-2004, 10:52 PM	#92
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	dola damn __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-12-2004, 10:53 PM	#95
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	so, if there was any offense that could score 10 points in 2 min, I would imagine it would be KC.

09-12-2004, 10:56 PM	#99
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	dola... And he's still too wet behind the ears to compare to the great Barry.

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