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Oop. My mistake. Put the two on the wrong side of the ledger. I guess I'll go back and double-check the numbers again (grumble, grumble).
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05-18-2004, 04:31 PM
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Game 3s are played for the third group of pairings. Here's the results:
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Only one upset in the group and that was the 1997 Chargers taking out the 1968 Cowboys (wasn't even close, 24-3). Favorites carried the day in all other matchup that had one. With regard to the noted contests from the earlier post: *1983 Washington annihilated the 1989 Rams, 51-20 *The 1978 Chargers spotted the 1993 Broncos the first ten points of the game, but shut them out the rest of the way and cruised to a 23-10 win. *In a contest every bit as close as expected, the 1995 Steelers booted a 34-yard field goal as time expired to defeat the 2003 Jets 30-27 and move on. *1981 Dallas nearly let a 14-0 lead going into the fourth quarter slip away, but the defense was stout enough in the end to claim a 17-10 win over the 1998 Raiders. *One conference champion wasn't so lucky, as the 1987 Broncos were tossed from the tournament by the 1997 Giants 34-20. *The 1967 Chiefs prevailed in their matchup with the 1977 Redskins, but it was a hard fought contest as expected, 14-10. *Finally, the 1978 LA Rams got a touchdown in the games dying seconds (missed the XP, irrelevantly) to defeat the 1992 Green Bay Packers 25-20 and advance. One more group to go and we'll know half the field for the round of 512. At that time, I'll post the 256 teams that are moving on from the first four groups. |
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05-19-2004, 02:32 PM
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Here's the list of the fourth group of 64 pairings. After this group's winners are determined, we'll have reached halfway through the second round.
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Best matchup, at least from a "how-their-season-went" standpoint would have to be the 1982 Dolphins taking on the 2002 Raiders in a matchup of conference champions twenty years apart, though I suspect the normalization should allow the Raiders to win that series, perhaps in a sweep. Other playoff team pairings include the 1971 Chiefs against the 1982 Raiders, the 1986 49ers against the 1997 Jaguars, the 1997 Patriots and the 1994 Steelers, the 1995 Bills against the 1983 Seahawks, the 1985 Raiders and the 1965 AFL Champion Buffalo Bills (though the Raiders should roll on that one), a wild card showdown between 1991 Dallas and 2001 Miami, and the 2002 Falcons against the 1947 Eagles. |
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05-19-2004, 03:05 PM
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Results from the first two games of the fourth group of pairings:
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15 pairings are going to a third game, including a few blood hates. Most prominent is 1971 KC against 1982 Oakland. The Raiders were supposed to sweep out the Chiefs. They toughed out a win at home, but the Chiefs shut them down in Kansas City to force a game three. The Raiders are favored by a touchdown and a two-pointer. Another rivalry is 1985 Green Bay and 1988 Chicago. In this pairing, the Bears were favored in both, but the Packers beat the Bears at Lambeau 24-17. The Bears avoided the sweep, however, by scoring 10 fourth-quarter points to win 30-14 in Chicago. The Bears will be favored by 6 in game three. Cleveland fans will be happy to hear that the 1948 Browns are giving the 1997 Ravens all they want. The Ravens are heavy favorites, but have played poorly in both games. They needed a last-second field goal to win in Baltimore, while the Browns effectively snuffed them out in Cleveland 14-6 to split the series. Still, the Ravens will be a 15-point favorite in the rubber match. |
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05-20-2004, 09:18 AM
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Looking good for the Panthers so far!
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05-24-2004, 09:48 AM
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Game 3's are now played out in the fourth group:
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Five games were upsets, though not very large. The one exception would be the 1974 Saints knocking out the 1991 Jets. The Jets were a two-touchdown favorite but a touchdown by the Saints late lifted them to a 20-16 win. As for the blood feuds, the 1982 Raiders staked themselves to a 30-10 halftime lead, but the 1971 Chiefs fought back with two TDs in the third, including one that resulted from going for it on fourth down during the drive. The Raiders shut them out in the fourth, though, and kicked in an insurance touchdown to win 37-24. The game between 1988 Chicago and 1985 Green Bay was a nailbiter from the start. Each team match the other score for score in the first half and went to the locker room tied at 14. Chicago tacked on a TD in the third while holding the Packers to a field goal to go up 21-17. Chicago added a TD in the fourth to go up 28-17. The Packers scored a touchdown and got a two-pointer to cut the lead to 28-25. However, they failed to convert a 38-yard field goal to tie and Chicago ran out the clock and advanced. Finally, the 1948 AAFC champion Browns ran out of gas against the 1997 Ravens. A 10-0 third quarter blew open a 14-7 contest and the Ravens kept the Browns at arm's reach the rest of the way to win 31-14. I will post the 256 that have advanced shortly. |
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05-24-2004, 10:06 AM
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Here are the 256 teams that have advanced so far:
Arizona Cardinals 1994 Arizona Cardinals 1995 Arizona Cardinals 2001 Atlanta Falcons 1972 Atlanta Falcons 1978 Atlanta Falcons 1980 Atlanta Falcons 1995 Atlanta Falcons 1997 Atlanta Falcons 1998 Atlanta Falcons 1999 Atlanta Falcons 2001 Atlanta Falcons 2002 Atlanta Falcons 2003 Baltimore Colts 1968 Baltimore Ravens 1997 Baltimore Ravens 1998 Baltimore Ravens 2001 Baltimore Ravens 2002 Birmingham Stallions 1985 Buffalo Bills 1976 Buffalo Bills 1983 Buffalo Bills 1985 Buffalo Bills 1995 Buffalo Bills 1996 Carolina Panthers 1997 Carolina Panthers 1999 Carolina Panthers 2000 Chicago Bears 1949 Chicago Bears 1976 Chicago Bears 1986 Chicago Bears 1988 Chicago Bears 1993 Chicago Bears 1995 Chicago Bears 1999 Chicago Bears 2001 Cincinnati Bengals 1973 Cincinnati Bengals 1979 Cincinnati Bengals 1985 Cincinnati Bengals 1986 Cincinnati Bengals 1990 Cincinnati Bengals 1991 Cincinnati Bengals 1992 Cincinnati Bengals 1994 Cincinnati Bengals 1995 Cincinnati Bengals 2003 Cleveland Browns 1957 Cleveland Browns 1968 Cleveland Browns 1977 Cleveland Browns 1978 Cleveland Browns 1981 Cleveland Browns 1985 Cleveland Browns 1986 Cleveland Browns 1987 Cleveland Browns 1989 Cleveland Browns 2002 Dallas Cowboys 1970 Dallas Cowboys 1975 Dallas Cowboys 1980 Dallas Cowboys 1981 Dallas Cowboys 1984 Dallas Cowboys 1987 Dallas Cowboys 1994 Dallas Cowboys 1996 Dallas Cowboys 1999 Dallas Cowboys 2000 Dallas Cowboys 2003 Denver Broncos 1973 Denver Broncos 1974 Denver Broncos 1975 Denver Broncos 1989 Denver Broncos 1991 Denver Broncos 1995 Denver Broncos 1996 Denver Broncos 2001 Detroit Lions 1963 Detroit Lions 1965 Detroit Lions 1966 Detroit Lions 1969 Detroit Lions 1970 Detroit Lions 1980 Detroit Lions 1986 Detroit Lions 1991 Detroit Lions 1994 Detroit Lions 1998 Detroit Lions 2001 Green Bay Packers 1963 Green Bay Packers 1995 Green Bay Packers 2001 Green Bay Packers 2002 Green Bay Packers 2003 Houston Oilers 1989 Houston Oilers 1992 Houston Oilers 1994 Houston Texans 2003 Indianapolis Colts 1990 Indianapolis Colts 1994 Jacksonville Jaguars 1996 Jacksonville Jaguars 1997 Jacksonville Jaguars 1998 Jacksonville Jaguars 2000 Jacksonville Jaguars 2001 Kansas City Chiefs 1967 Kansas City Chiefs 1978 Kansas City Chiefs 1980 Kansas City Chiefs 1982 Kansas City Chiefs 1984 Kansas City Chiefs 1990 Kansas City Chiefs 1991 Kansas City Chiefs 1993 Kansas City Chiefs 2002 Kansas City Chiefs 2003 Los Angeles Raiders 1982 Los Angeles Raiders 1985 Los Angeles Raiders 1987 Los Angeles Raiders 1994 Los Angeles Rams 1949 Los Angeles Rams 1966 Los Angeles Rams 1975 Los Angeles Rams 1977 Los Angeles Rams 1978 Los Angeles Rams 1983 Los Angeles Rams 1993 Miami Dolphins 1970 Miami Dolphins 1975 Miami Dolphins 1978 Miami Dolphins 1979 Miami Dolphins 1981 Miami Dolphins 1984 Miami Dolphins 1985 Miami Dolphins 1992 Miami Dolphins 1994 Miami Dolphins 1995 Miami Dolphins 2001 Miami Dolphins 2003 Minnesota Vikings 1969 Minnesota Vikings 1977 Minnesota Vikings 1982 Minnesota Vikings 1983 Minnesota Vikings 1989 Minnesota Vikings 1990 Minnesota Vikings 1992 Minnesota Vikings 1994 Minnesota Vikings 1998 Minnesota Vikings 2002 New England Patriots 1971 New England Patriots 1978 New England Patriots 1980 New England Patriots 1984 New England Patriots 1985 New England Patriots 1987 New England Patriots 1990 New England Patriots 1993 New England Patriots 1996 New England Patriots 1999 New England Patriots 2002 New Orleans Saints 1969 New Orleans Saints 1974 New Orleans Saints 1982 New Orleans Saints 1984 New Orleans Saints 1987 New Orleans Saints 1988 New Orleans Saints 1990 New Orleans Saints 1992 New Orleans Saints 1993 New Orleans Saints 1998 New Orleans Saints 1999 New Orleans Saints 2001 New Orleans Saints 2002 New York Giants 1939 New York Giants 1950 New York Giants 1960 New York Giants 1972 New York Giants 1981 New York Giants 1985 New York Giants 1989 New York Giants 1993 New York Giants 1997 New York Jets 1990 New York Jets 1993 Oakland Raiders 1968 Oakland Raiders 1973 Oakland Raiders 1977 Oakland Raiders 1995 Oakland Raiders 1999 Oakland Raiders 2000 Oakland Raiders 2002 Philadelphia Eagles 1964 Philadelphia Eagles 1970 Philadelphia Eagles 1975 Philadelphia Eagles 1978 Philadelphia Eagles 1981 Philadelphia Eagles 1982 Philadelphia Eagles 1984 Philadelphia Eagles 1986 Philadelphia Eagles 1988 Philadelphia Eagles 1990 Philadelphia Eagles 1991 Philadelphia Eagles 1995 Philadelphia Eagles 1999 Philadelphia Eagles 2000 Philadelphia Eagles 2001 Philadelphia Eagles 2002 Phoenix Cardinals 1989 Phoenix Cardinals 1990 Pittsburgh Steelers 1962 Pittsburgh Steelers 1967 Pittsburgh Steelers 1973 Pittsburgh Steelers 1983 Pittsburgh Steelers 1994 Pittsburgh Steelers 1995 Pittsburgh Steelers 1997 Pittsburgh Steelers 2000 Pittsburgh Steelers 2002 Pittsburgh Steelers 2003 San Diego Chargers 1966 San Diego Chargers 1978 San Diego Chargers 1989 San Diego Chargers 1991 San Diego Chargers 1993 San Diego Chargers 1994 San Diego Chargers 1995 San Diego Chargers 1996 San Diego Chargers 1997 San Diego Chargers 1999 San Diego Chargers 2003 San Francisco 49ers 1970 San Francisco 49ers 1977 San Francisco 49ers 1983 San Francisco 49ers 1992 San Francisco 49ers 1993 San Francisco 49ers 1998 San Francisco 49ers 1999 Seattle Seahawks 2001 Seattle Seahawks 2002 St. Louis Cardinals 1961 St. Louis Cardinals 1968 St. Louis Cardinals 1971 St. Louis Cardinals 1972 St. Louis Cardinals 1975 St. Louis Cardinals 1977 St. Louis Rams 1995 St. Louis Rams 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1989 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1994 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1998 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2003 Tennessee Oilers 1998 Tennessee Titans 2002 Washington Redskins 1964 Washington Redskins 1973 Washington Redskins 1979 Washington Redskins 1981 Washington Redskins 1983 Washington Redskins 1992 Washington Redskins 2001 *Three AFL teams have advanced so far (1967 Chiefs, 1968 Raiders, 1966 Chargers), eight have been eliminated, another eight yet to play *One USFL team made it thus far (1985 Birmingham Stallions), two have been eliminated, two others yet to play *No AAFC teams advanced yet, two have been eliminated, two more to play this round *22 pre-merger NFL teams have also advanced (1 from the 30s, two each from the 40s and 50s, and 17 from the 60s) |
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05-25-2004, 11:05 AM
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On with the second half of the second round. Here's the fifth group of 64 pairings:
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Several playoff team matchups in this grouping. Probably the best and perhaps most intriguing is the 1985 Cowboys, which won the NFC East, taking on the hated rivals from Washington in the form of the 1972 NFC Champion Redskins. Other playoff team pairings include the 1980 NFC champion Eagles get to take on one of the strike-shortened 1982 playoff teams, the Jets. 1966 AFL Champ Kansas City draws 1971 Baltimore. 1995 NFC West winner San Francisco is paired with 1987 wild card Seattle. The 1999 AFC Champion and "one-yard-short" of Super Bowl winners Tennessee Titans taking on 1983 Dallas. 1992 AFC Champion Buffalo gets 1985 Wild Card San Francisco (the Bills teams from the early 90s have not fared well thus far). Finally, a pair of division champs tangle as the 2001 Raiders take on the 1973 Cowboys. |
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05-25-2004, 01:56 PM
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I've just caught an error in the schedule. I have a team from the same franchise history playing itself in the 1990 Rams playing the 1998 Rams. I have elected to change the 1998 Rams and the 1998 Chiefs to at least keep normalization consistent through the two re-arranged pairings. I had run the first two games already without realizing this mistake, so all other results that I have for these games will stand except for these two changed pairings which I will redo.
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05-25-2004, 02:10 PM
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I expected all Saints teams to be eliminated by now.
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05-25-2004, 02:26 PM
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The games have been played and the Rams error has been corrected, though I think the 1998 St. Louis team will be complaining somewhat. They claimed a 2-0 sweep of the 1990 Rams in the original run. They've split with the 1978 Raiders in the redo. Obviously, the 1990 Rams are happy as they actually managed a split this time. No gain or loss for the Raiders and 1998 Chiefs as they had split with each other in the original run.
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A lot more toss-up pairings in this group. The last couple of groups saw 15 split series each. This batch alone managed to produce 28. The marquee matchup of the group, 1985 Dallas and 1972 Washington, seems to bear this out. Both teams are favored by 4 at home and both won at home. Washington survived a last-second field goal attempt by Dallas in DC, while the Cowboys cruised to a 24-7 win in Dallas. Game three will be a toss-up. Elsewhere: *The 1980 Eagles and 1982 Jets have taken turns winning on the road, with the Eagles pounding the Jets in NY, while the Jets hung on in Philadelphia. Game 3 will see the Eagles a slight favorite. *The first AFL team to play in the Super Bowl, the 1966 Chiefs, have been swept out by the 1971 Colts. The Colts won both games by 10 points. *The 1995 49ers romped their way past the 1987 Seahawks, winning by 20 points at home and then blowing out the Seahawks at the Kingdome 41-17. *1999 Tennessee and 1983 Dallas are going to a third game after Dallas took game one in Dallas 34-27 and then the Titans smashed the Cowboys in Nashville 36-6. Tennessee is a four-point favorite in game three. *1992 Buffalo and 1985 San Francisco have also split their series. The Bills won game one in Buffalo by booting a late field goal and then hanging on as the 49ers could not move into field goal range to win 20-17. The Niners got the split by blowing open a 10-10 game at halftime and rolling to a 37-24 win. San Francisco will be a field goal favorite in the rubber match. *Cowboys fans should be happy to know that the 1973 Cowboys are hanging in there against the 2001 Raiders. The Raiders have been favored in both games. Oakland sliced-and-diced the Cowboys 30-7 in Dallas, but the Cowboys pulled a tremendous upset by winning in Oakland 27-17, despite being 10-point underdogs. The Raiders will be a touchdown favorite in game three. As far as upsets: *The 1989 LA Raiders swept out the 1999 Redskins in a mild upset. The Redskins were in trouble when the lost the inital game at home 37-27. The Raiders were a 1-point underdog at home in game two, but completed the sweep, winning 17-10. *The 2003 Rams are being stretched to a game three by the 2001 Vikings. The Vikings took game one at home in a shootout 38-31 (Rams were a touchdown favorite). The Rams bounced back, though, taking game two in St. Louis comfortably 34-17. The Rams will be double-digit favorites in game three. *The 2002 Dolphins are in a game three with the 1993 Vikings after the Vikings shocked everyone by winning game two in Miami after losing a 30-26 heartbreaker in Minnesota. A pivotal fourth down conversion in the third quarter resulted in a touchdown for the Vikings as they held on to win 23-19. They'll be 10-point underdogs in the third game. *The 1962 Oilers have pushed the 1939 Bears with a split of games. The Oilers stunned the Bears by taking game one in Chicago 23-14. But, the Bears rallied and perservered through a tough 30-25 game in Houston to force a third game. The Bears will be touchdown favorites. |
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05-25-2004, 02:35 PM
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satch: I actually do have a running tally of how franchises are doing thus far and the Saints aren't the worst out there, really. As a percentage, teams like the Bills and Bengals have suffered higher casualties than the Saints (and perhaps in actual numbers as well, since the Bills are only six years older and the Bengals are actually a couple of years younger). It does stand to reason that I think every team will get at least one franchise member into the round of 512 and I'd say the majority if not all of them will get to the round of 256. Random draws simply dictate that. Chances are that a bad team will luck out and face other bad teams that might allow it to survive when it shouldn't. This same principle also means some good teams do get hosed because they have to play other good teams to advance occassionally.
Even so, the Saints do have a fair share of decent teams and I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of them hang on for a while, though I can't say how long. I fully expect that by the round of 64, most all of the chaff will have been separated out and we'll really have some quality teams playing one another the rest of the way. Whether any of the Saints teams is wheat by that point remains to be seen. I honestly have no earthly idea how things will play out. I wouldn't be stunned, actually, to see the 1972 Dolphins to go out this round or next, for example. They were a very good team, but I don't think they could handle the 1998 Vikings or 1999 Rams in this sort of replay where later teams have somewhat of an advantage over earlier ones. |
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05-25-2004, 10:00 PM
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05-25-2004, 10:02 PM
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05-25-2004, 10:06 PM
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Oh, OK. That's commendable...
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05-26-2004, 01:49 PM
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Game 3s of the fifth group are played:
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Game threes resulted in several tight contests across the group. The best series of the group lived up to billing in the rubber match as 1985 Dallas and 1972 Washington engaged in a slugfest. Dallas lead 7-6 after one, but Washington scored ten in the second against a Dallas TD to lead 16-14 at the half. Dallas notched another TD in the third while the Redskins could only muster a field goal, giving Dallas a 21-19 lead going into the fourth. Dallas added 10 in the fourth, while Washington again struggled in and near the red zone, mustering only two field goals and then turning the ball over on downs late, resulting in a 31-25 win. Washington's defense proved to be tougher than Dallas's but gave up too many big plays. Dallas, meanwhile, allowed Washington several visits to their side of the 50, but the defense adopted a bend-don't-break philosophy that did just enough to allow Dallas to win. Elsewhere: *Game three between 1980 Philadelphia and the 1982 Jets was anti-climatic as Philadelphia scored 17 unanswered points in the second half to cruise to a 31-7 win. *The 1999 AFC Champion Tennesee Titans won a thriller against the 1983 Cowboys 31-27. A scoreless first quarter gave way to an exposive affair the rest of the way, with the Cowboys up 14-10 at the break and 24-20 after three. Tennessee got a touchdown and two-pointer and a field goal in the fourth to Dallas's field goal and forced a turnover on downs late to preserve the win. *The 1992 Bills ended the hex that has plagued the other Bills Super Bowl teams and advanced to round three by routing 1985 San Francisco 38-17. The 1992 Bills are the only one of the four teams that have survived the first two rounds. *1973 Dallas completed the upset of the 2001 Raiders, beating them 35-24. *The 2003 St. Louis Rams continued to struggle with the 2001 Vikings, but they ultimately survived. A high-scoring first half resulted in a 24-17 halftime lead for the Rams, but neither team got more than field goals in the second half as the Rams plodded their way to a 30-23 win. *Another team that struggled against weaker opposition was the 2002 Dolphins against the 1993 Vikings. Like the Rams, they survive, but just...barely. The Dolphins jumped on them early, leading 14-3 after the first quarter, but seemed to put it on auto-pilot after that. The Vikings gamely fought on, but could not get over the hump and lose 24-17. *Finally, the 1962 Oilers completed the upset of the 1939 Bears. Houston got all their points in the first half to lead 21-14 at the break. The Bears defense would shut out the Oilers the rest of the way, but the offense was ineffective, mustering only a pair of fields goals. The Bears worked for one last field goal attempt from 30 yards out, but the kick sailed wide and the Oilers won 21-20. Last edited by Wolfpack : 05-26-2004 at 01:52 PM. |
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05-27-2004, 02:02 PM
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The sixth group of pairings is listed below:
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The "marquee"-ness of the group isn't that great. Only three conference champions in the group and they all play non-playoff teams. I would wager, though, that the 1948 Bears will have a tough time with the 1992 Buccs if only because of the normalization grade between the two eras. Beyond that, there are a number of quality pairings between playoff teams. If I had to nail down the best one, I'd say it'll be the 1976 Rams against the 1976 Steelers, if only because they are from the same year so the normalization is negated and both are division champs. Right behind them is an intriguing matchup between the 2003 Colts and the 1974 Dolphins (the first Miami team to fail to reach the Super Bowl since 1970). Other playoff-team pairings include: *1999 AFC West winner Seattle taking on the upstarts of 1996, the NFC West champion Carolina Panthers *The "Air Coryell" 1979 Chargers, winners of the AFC West, taking on 1976 Washington, a wild card team that year *1986 New England, winners of the AFC East, battling 1996 AFC Central champ Pittsburgh *1992 San Diego, which won the AFC West that year, plays 1998 wild card Miami *The first of Peyton Manning's playoff teams, the 1999 AFC East champion Colts, against 1984 Seattle, a wild card team that year *2000 NFC Central winner Minnesota draws the 1996 49ers, a team that settled for a wild card because the Panthers won the NFC West in only their second year |
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05-27-2004, 03:53 PM
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Here are the results of games 1 and 2 for this group:
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19 pairings will go to a third game. Unfortunately, a few of matchups I thought would be good did not pan out. To wit: *The chosen best pairing resulted in a sweep, but not for the favored 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers. The 1976 Rams took both games instead. The crowd at Three Rivers were simply stunned in game one as the Rams demolished their beloved Steelers 28-3. In LA, the Steelers were still a slight (1 pt) favorite, but the Rams got on the board first with a field goal and never relenquished the lead, winning 20-14. *The 2003 Colts were solid favorites against the 1974 Dolphins and did not disappoint, crushing Miami 37-14 at the Orange Bowl and then returning to Indianapolis to complete the sweep 41-27. *1999 Seattle went to Charlotte for game one and upset the 1996 Panthers, using a field goal to force overtime and then coverting from 35 yards to win on the first possession 20-17. The Seahawks then completed the sweep by rolling to a 28-3 victory in Seattle over an apparently demoralized Panther squad. Not all playoff team pairings resulted in brooms coming out: *1979 San Diego seems to be sputtering a bit as they rode their defense to an unimpressive 19-3 win over 1976 Washington in San Diego. The Redskin offense erupted at home while the Chargers continued to struggle and Washington forced a game three with a decisive 33-17 win. The Chargers will be a touchdown favorite. *1992 San Diego and 1998 Miami are having a good clash as the Dolphins took game one in San Diego 14-10. The Chargers, however, managed to upset the favored Dolphins in Miami 28-23. The Dolphins are the favorite in the tiebreaker by 4. *1984 Seattle strolled into the RCA Dome against 1999 Indianapolis and came up with an 18-16 upset win. Both teams plodded through the game, with Indy taking a 7-6 lead in the fourth. Seattle got a field goal and a touchdown in the fourth. They gambled and went for two, but failed, leaving the score 15-7. The Colts got an answering touchdown and went for two to tie, but also failed, making it 15-13. Indy converted a 31-yard field goal to go ahead 16-15, but there was enough time left for Seattle to go back down the field and boot a 36-yard field goal to win 18-16. In Seattle, the Colts bounced back, scoring on a six-yard touchdown pass with under a minute left to win a much more exciting contest 34-27. Indy will be the four-point favorite in the rubber match. *2000 Minnesota and the 1996 49ers took turns beating each other comfortably at home. The Niners will be field goal favorites in game three. Upsets: *The 1996 New York Jets swept out the 1994 Seahawks, despite Seattle being favored in both games. *1963 Washington has pushed the 1979 Cardinals to a third game, winning 20-14 at home in game one, but the Cardinals smashed them 34-7 in St. Louis. The Cards will be 10-point favorites in game three. *The 1968 Lions earned a split with the 2003 Browns, bouncing back from a 20-0 shutout in Cleveland to upset the Browns 13-12 on a last-second 35-yard field goal. The Browns are a heavy 12-point favorite in the deciding contest. *Quite possibly the most humiliating defeat the NFL has suffered thus far: the 1985 Portland Breakers, a bad team in a bad USFL, probably pulled the upset of the tournament just to stay in the series with the 1981 Patriots. New England has played poorly in both games. Favored by 18 in Portland, they only managed to win 27-20. Even heavier favorites at home in Foxboro (try 26 points), the Breakers stunned the partisan crowd by scoring a last minute touchdown to win 19-14 and force a game three. If there's any sense in the world, the Patriots should roll as 22-point favorites. *The 1968 49ers swept out the 1999 Steelers despite being the underdog in both games. The Niners won a thriller in San Francisco with a 75-yard touchdown pass 24-17 and then outlasted the Steelers in Pittsburgh, answering a game-tying Steeler field goal with a game winner as time expired to win 20-17. *It's not all good news for the Niners as their 1997 team finds itself in a third game after losing in KC in game one 21-17. They struggled to a 14-10 win at Candlestick to get to the third game. San Fran will be favored by 11. *The 1949 AAFC Champion Cleveland Browns are still holding the AAFC banner high as they've battled to a split with the 2001 Jets. The Jets lost in New York, possibly the second-worse loss for the NFL thus far (Jets were an 18-point favorite), 16-10. The Jets managed to right the ship in Cleveland, winning 20-14. They'll be two-touchdown favorites in the last game of the series. Last edited by Wolfpack : 05-28-2004 at 10:52 AM. Reason: Mistakenly showed 1981 Buccs splitting with 1939 Eagles when Buccs crushed them both games to sweep |
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05-28-2004, 11:28 AM
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Game 3's are played in group 6:
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Upsets were fairly frequent as 7 favorites go down to defeat in the 18 (not 19 as listed before) pairings. Some were in the prominent matchups. We'll start with those. *1979 San Diego finally seemed to get the offense untracked in the first half of game three, but the defense wasn't there for them. The offense put up 21 in the first half, but the defense surrendered 17 to the 1976 Redskins. The offense returned to its shell in the second half as the Redskins shut them out, while the defense gave up another 13 points. The Chargers crash out 30-21 losers. *1992 San Diego fared better against 1998 Miami. The teams battled to a 13-13 tie at the half. Defenses ruled the second half. Miami mustered only a field goal in the fourth while the Chargers put up 7. It proved to be enough and the Chargers win 20-16. *1984 Seattle and 1999 Indianapolis staged another great duel in game three. Both teams scored 10 in the first and 7 in the second to produce a 17-17 haltime. Both teams continued to answer each other score for score in the second half until the scoreboard read 34-34 with a few minutes left in the fourth. Indy put together one last drive that consumed the remainder of the clock and won on a 2-yard touchdown pass with seconds remaining. 41-34, Indy. *Game three between 2000 Minnesota and 1996 San Francisco resembled the first two games, a blowout. In the neutral site game, the blowout went to...San Francisco, 30-0. Ouch. Now for the upsets that resulted in splits: *1979 St. Louis utilized 14 unanswered points in the second quarter to jump to a 21-7 halftime lead and shut down 1963 Washington the rest of the way and won comfortably 28-13. *2003 Cleveland used a stifling defense to shut out the 1968 Lions 21-0 and move on. *That sigh of relief you hear is from Patriot fans who watched their 1981 squad put everything aright by whipping the 1985 Portland Breakers 31-10. *1981 Kansas City probably has the biggest upset of the group. They take down the 1997 49ers 27-17 despite being 11-point underdogs. *The AAFC is now completely eliminated from the tournament field as the 1949 Browns were crushed by the 2001 Jets 45-17. Upsets in game three: *1996 Pittsburgh joined a growing legion of Steeler teams on the sideline after getting eliminated by the 1986 Patriots, 23-10. The Patriots scored 10 fourth quarter points to seal the win. *The 1972 Vikings used a strong defensive effort and held the 1965 Bears to just a field goal and won 17-3. *The 1989 Green Bay Packers scored on a 7-yard touchdown with under a minute left to stun the 1997 Redskins 21-15. Washington had scored a touchdown but missed on a two-point conversion to tie at 14. The Redskins would convert a field goal to make it 15-14, setting the stage for the Packer heroics at the end of the game. *1953 San Francisco defeated the 2003 Bears 28-23 on a 69-yard touchdown reception with a minute-and-a-half left. The Niner defense then successfully turned away a Chicago effort to win at the end. One more group to go and then we get to the champions group. I'm thinking of shortening the next group to the number of pairings that don't involve champion teams (something like 61 or 62 I think) so that the last group will have all of the champion teams in it. (1937 to 2003 would be I think 67 teams, so that's 67 pairings) |
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05-28-2004, 12:05 PM
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Awww, the Breakers weren't able to pull the upset off. Dang...
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06-02-2004, 02:27 AM
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about what's the 49ers record so far?
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06-02-2004, 01:02 PM
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I don't have the exact W/L in front of me here, but after six groups of pairings, they've thus far been able to advance (by my count) 17 teams to round three. Obviously, this still leaves approximately 41 Niner teams unaccounted for. A number of them have been bounced (including all their AAFC teams), but they also still have more to go in the remaining groups, including their five Super Bowl teams.
Actually, one thing I don't have a stat for is won/loss by franchise. I just have a running tally of how many teams are left for a given franchise. Still, SFO is going to have plenty of representatives next round and they'll likely have quite a few make it deep into the tournament. The 1984 and 1989 teams I'd expect should advance the furtherest, though with random-draw tournaments, they could draw great teams and get bounced early. |
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BTW, I'm formulating a pick 'em contest for you readers out there that will kick in once the field is reduced to 64 teams. Since it's a random draw tournament, it won't be a pick 'em contest in the same way that you would do for the NCAA tournament. Watch for details as the time draws near. I'll probably post a new thread to handle it (would it be better to post the thread to the Dynasty board or over on the general board?) when the time comes.
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Awesome. I'm sure I'll suck at the contest, though...
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06-02-2004, 02:06 PM
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I know I'll be trying to look like a braying ass and lose. Go Oilers!
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By the greatest of coincidences, I have discovered that there are exactly 64 NFL/SB winners since 1937 rated in the game. The 67 years since 1937 are cancelled out by the fact that the game's creator decided not to rate the WWII teams from 1943-1945, thus there are only 64 NFL champions in the tournament. The net result of this is that group seven will get a full listing of 64 pairings and they are as follows:
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Not many playoff pairings in this group, but those that are available are really juicy pairings. Six conference champs are going at it, four of them against one another. The only conference champ not drawing a playoff team is 1964 Baltimore, who draws the 1961 Rams. We'll go old-school for the featured matchup of the round as the 1956 Chicago Bears take on the 1946 New York Giants. Other playoff team matchups include: *The other conference champions pairing is 1976 Minnesota against 1997 Green Bay in a Black-and-Blue hatefest. I chose the Bears-Giants pairing ahead of this one on the basis of normalization which I think will allow the Packers to sweep this series. *An interesting matchup between the 2001 woulda-coulda-shoulda-won-the-Super-Bowl Rams and the 1983 AFC East champion Dolphins featuring a golden-armed rookie named Dan Marino at QB. *1976 AFC East champion Baltimore goes up against a 2002 Wild Card, the New York Giants, who choked away a huge lead in San Francisco and lost in one of the most bizarre endings in playoff history. *1988 AFC West winner Seattle is paired with 1998 Wild Card Buffalo. Results of the opening games posted shortly.... |
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06-02-2004, 02:46 PM
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I can't believe the Texans are still there.
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06-02-2004, 03:27 PM
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Here are the results from games 1 and 2:
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Group seven had forty-four sweeps, but that also means it produced 20 splits, so there will be plenty of game three's to be had in this group. The featured matchup between the 1956 Bears and 1946 Giants has featured a blowout and and upset. The Bears absolutely annihilated the Giants in Chicago in game one, exploding for 34 first half points and cruising to a 51-10 win. However, the scrappy Giants, five-point dogs in their own house, put up 13 points in the first quarter and then made it stand the rest of the way, surrendering only a second quarter touchdown to win 13-7. Other playoff-team matchups: *As expected, the 1997 Packers were heavy favorites against the 1976 Vikings. In game one, they lead 17-3 after one and 24-9 at the half, and rolled to a 48-24 win from there. In game two in Minneapolis, the Packers spotted the Vikings a first quarter field goal and then scored 24 points over the middle two quarters to take control at 24-10 and finished the sweep by winning 31-17. *The 2001 NFC Champion Rams swept out the 1983 Dolphins, but Miami didn't go quietly. In game one in Miami, the Rams needed a 7-yard touchdown run late in the game to claim a 24-17 win. At the TransWorld Dome in game two, the Dolphins were in contention for a half and even tied the game at 10 early in the third before an avalanche of 17 unanswered Rams points struck, enabling the Rams to complete the sweep, 27-10. *The 1976 Colts upset the 2002 Giants in New York in the opener of their series, winning 27-14. Back home at Memorial Stadium, the Colts toughed out a 16-10 win to complete the sweep. *The 1998 Bills dispatched the 1988 Seahawks with relative ease, as expected. 17-point favorites in Orchard Park, they wound up winning 41-21 after leading just 10-7 at the half. The return game at the Kingdome was an embarassment for the homestanding Seahawks as the Bills rolled and shut out hapless Seattle 38-0. Upsets to note: *1993 Green Bay is supposed to be a heavy favorite against the 1966 Steelers, but it isn't proving to be the case. The Packers struggled mightly at home to defeat the Steelers, despite being three-touchdown favorites. They needed a touchdown and two-point conversion just to tie the game in the fourth quarter and then won it on a 31-yard field goal as time expired to win 17-14. The Packers were favored by two touchdowns in Pittsburgh, but Green Bay continued to have problems. This time, the Steelers made them pay as Pittsburgh converted a game-winning field goal of their own to upset the Packers 17-16. Game three should be a Packer win as they are favored by a whopping 18 points, but their luck could run cold again. *1986 Minnesota is having troubles with 1978 St. Louis. They did the expected at home and dominated the Cardinals 24-7. However, they couldn't put the Cardinals away in game two in St. Louis. The Cardinals hung around long enough to grab a 17-16 lead going into the late stages of the fourth quarter. Minnesota had a chance to gain the lead with a 39-yard field goal, but missed and St. Louis ran ou the clock to win. The Vikings will be 13-point favorites in game three. *The 1979 Jets pulled the complete sweep upset against the 1993 Eagles. The Eagles were favored in both games, but coughed up game one in New York 20-17 by surrendering a last-second field goal. The stunner came in Philly where the Eagles were two-touchdown favorites. The Jets, however, played them to a 14-14 standstill at the half and then took the lead for good with a touchdown and field goal in the third to go up 24-17. Neither team got more than field goals in the fourth and the Jets hung on to win 30-24 to advance. *Another team favored in both games that got swept out were the 1947 Rams, taken down by the 1956 Redskins. Game one in Washington wasn't too much of a surprise as the Rams were 1-point favorites, but lost 14-10 on a late-game touchdown run. However, the Rams got broomed out in LA by falling prey to the classic "left-too-much-time" syndrome. Trailing 14-13, the Rams managed to work their way for a 45-yard field goal that put them ahead 16-14. However, the 'Skins had enough time left to march back down the field and nail a game-winning 36-yarder to win 17-16 and complete the sweep. *A pair of teams were eliminated because they didn't take care of business at home like they should have. The 1990 Packers were touchdown favorites at home, but the 1974 Lions tied the game on a late field goal to force OT and then won in the extra session on a 3-yard touchdown pass, 36-30. In another thriller back in Detroit, the Lions completed the sweep with a 49-yard bomb with under two minutes remaining to complete a great fourth-quarter comeback from 10 points down to win 28-24. *In the other case, the 1974 Redskins (one of a rare group of earlier-era teams to be favored over a 1990s team) lost a slugfest in New York 14-7 in a toss-up rated game, then lost the game they should have won at home after getting blanked in the second half as the Giants won 25-21. *1983 Atlanta is being forced to a game three by a fairly inferior 1974 Saints squad. The Falcons struggled in game one, trailing at the half 17-6. The Falcons came out on fire in the second half, though, and outscored the visitors 20-3 to win 26-20. The Falcons again struggled in New Orleans and this time the Saints weren't going to let the game get away from them. The Saints triumphed 20-14. *Another surprising upset was the 1976 Cardinals over the 1999 Vikings. The Vikings were heavy favorites at home (16 points), but the Cardinals forced them to play ugly and stunned the Metrodome crowd by winning 14-10. At Busch, the Cardinals again forced the Vikings to play ugly. This time, Minnesota didn't even break into the end zone and were reduced to field goals. Still, the Vikings lead 15-7 in the fourth before a Cardinal touchdown made it 15-13. St. Louis attempted to tie with a two-pointer, but failed. However, this lead to a great drive where the Cardinal offense shredded the Minnesota defense and set up an easy 25-yard chip shot for the 16-15 win. *1992 Denver and 2000 St. Louis are threatening to break every bulb on the scoreboard in their matchup. The Rams won 48-31 in St. Louis, but that was nothing compared to the Mile High track meet to come in Denver. Both teams rung up 30 points in the first half, matching each other score for score. Denver finally broke ahead for good when St. Louis answered a Denver TD in the third with only a field goal. After all the pyrotechnics of the first three quarters, only Denver managed a touchdown in the fourth to put the game away and win 51-40 in an upset. Game three will see the Rams as 12-point favorites. *The 1975 Houston Oilers are facing a third game against the 1984 Jets and they shouldn't be, by all rights. The Oilers did the hard part, winning in New York 29-13 in game one. Game two was at home and they were 11-point favorites. The Jets, however, had other ideas and lead 14-7 at the half. The Oilers, however, rallied and then took the lead at 23-21 with a pair of field goals during the fourth quarter. The Jets, however, managed one last drive that resulted in a 23-yard touchdown pass with a few seconds left in the game and came away 28-23 victors. The rubber match has the Oilers a touchdown favorite. *On the flip side for Houston fans, they can rejoice that the 1981 Oilers are alive against the 1998 Patriots. At the Astrodome in game one, the Oilers whipped the Patriots convincingly 21-7, despite being 10-point underdogs. Needing to win the second game to force the third game, the heavily favored Patriots did just that and with style, crushing the Oilers 30-0 in Foxboro. The Oilers will be two-touchdown underdogs in the deciding game. *The 1951 Browns were another team favored in both games that got swept out. The Browns were paired with the 1980 Packers, not exactly a legendary team in the history of that storied franchise. The Browns got off on the wrong foot right away as they blew the home game 21-14. Still, the Browns were favored heading back to Green Bay, albeit only 2-point favorites. The Packers used some of the home field magic, though, and scored 21 unanswered points after trailing 24-7 midway into the third quarter, the last points coming on a 5-yard touchdown run with just seconds remaining to complete the rally and win 28-24. *The 1982 Cleveland Browns are fairing only slightly better than their 1951 cohorts in their series with the 1975 Jets. The favored Browns did as expected and came away with the win, 24-17 in New York in game one. However, they foundered in game two and the Jets upset the Browns in Cleveland 20-13. The Browns will be 8-point favorites in game three. |
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06-02-2004, 03:29 PM
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sach: The Texans are still alive by virtue of having only two teams to lose. And, speak of the devil, the 2002 squad just got eliminated by the 2002 Panthers. So, they're down to just the 2003 team, which I believe advanced earlier in the round.
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06-02-2004, 04:18 PM
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Not only did they contain him, they did it relatively easily. The Pack dominated in Houston 31-17 and did the same in Green Bay 31-10.
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Ooh. Horsepucky. Grouse. Let's see how many other derelect words and phrases we can work into this exchange, consarnit. SI
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06-02-2004, 04:36 PM
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Go Earl! Make me a sausage!
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06-03-2004, 10:42 AM
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Game 3s are now played out:
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A number of great, thrilling contests and quite a few upsets litter the board. Starting out with the group's featured matchup: *The 1946 Giants and 1956 Bears staged a great third game. It initially looked like it was going to be a high-scoring affair as both offenses were hot in the first quarter. After one, the Bears were up 14-10. But, after that, the defenses completely took over. The Giants booted a pair of field goals in the second to lead 16-14 at the half, but that would be it for scoring until very late in the game when the Bear offense finally got going for one last drive. The Giant defense was not up to the task and the Bears hammered their way downfield to the one-yard line, where the Giant defense finally made a stand. However, it was a chip-shot for the Bears to convert it with time expiring, so the Bears survive and advance 17-16. *1993 Green Bay struggled to defeat the 1966 Steelers 23-10. They lead 3-0 at the half and 9-7 after three, but scored a pair of touchdowns in the fourth to put the game away. *1986 Minnesota is feeling fortunate to move on after a grueling game three with 1978 St. Louis. The Vikes jumped ahead early 17-7, but the Cards chipped away at the lead and by the start of the fourth quarter trailed just 17-16. In the fourth, the Cards scored a touchdown for their only lead of the game, but failed on the two-point conversion to lead 22-17. Minnesota answered back with their own touchdown and failed their own 2-point attempt to make the lead three points. With time running down late, the Cardinals lined up for a 43-yard field goal. Viking defenders swamped the Cardinal line and blocked the kick, preserving the 23-22 win. *The 1983 Falcons finally bounced the 1972 Saints 22-6 in a rather uninspiring contest. The Falcons scored the first 15 points of the game, all on field goals. *Game three between 1992 Denver and 2000 St. Louis initially did not produce the fireworks the first two games did as the Rams battled to a 13-10 halftime lead. Fireworks finally came in the second half, but it was only the Rams producing them as they scored 10 unanswered in the third and another 17 against a Bronco TD in response in the fourth to win going away 40-17. *A result sure to get sterlingice's hackles up is this one: 1984 Jets 28, 1975 Oilers 21. A tight game throughout, the Jets lead 21-13 after three. The Oilers got a touchdown and a two-pointer to tie it up in the fourth, but the Jets answered with a touchdown of their own to lead 28-21. The defense was able to make it stand up the rest of the way. *Compounding Oiler woes, the underdog 1981 squad was easily dispatched by the 1998 Patriots in their rubber match, 34-18. *The 1982 Browns ground out a tough win over a resilient 1975 Jets squad, 31-27. The Jets jumped ahead early with the game's first 10 points, but the Browns racked up the next 17 to lead 17-10 midway into the third. The Jets hung tough, getting a touchdown to tie and then pushed into the lead in the fourth, 27-24. The Browns didn't fold and came down the field on their final drive to score on a 20-yard touchdown pass to win 31-27. Upsets: *The remarkable run of the Ravens franchise continues as the 1996 Ravens trounced the slightly favored Redskins 35-17. No Raven team has been eliminated from the tournament yet. (They'll have three teams playing in the final group) *Redskins fans can take comfort in the fact that their 2000 squad stunned the 2000 Tennessee Titans 20-9 to advance to round three. *The 1969 Browns used a stout defense to eliminate touchdown-favored 1997 Buffalo 17-7. *The Charger teams of the late 70s and early 80s continues to have hard luck in the tournament. The 1980 team was roundly thrashed by the 1985 Redskins 34-17. *The 1969 Packers and 1970 Giants needed overtime to settle their differences. The Packers grabbed a 21-13 lead at the half, but saw the Giants battle back to take the lead in the fourth 27-24. The Packers (one-point favorites) tied it up and forced OT on a 35-yard field goal as time ran out. However, the Giants took the opening possession of OT down the field and converted from 32-yard to win 30-27. *1998 Arizona and the 1987 Giants almost went to OT themselves. A scoreless and lifeless first half gave way to 10 unanswered points by the Giants in the third, which in turn yielded 10 unanswered by the Cardinals to tie it up in the fourth. The Cards then produced a game-winning drive that resulted in a 38-yard field goal and the 13-10 win. *Another OT affair came up between 1990 Tampa Bay and 1991 Cleveland, but it was not a great game by any means. The Browns, touchdown favorites, could only muster a field goal in the third quarter. The Buccs were worse, if possible, being goose-egged until the very late stages of the fourth quarter when they nailed a 47-yard attempt to tie it up at 3. The Browns had one last chance to win, but missed from 35-yards at the gun. In the OT, the Buccs took the opening possession and marched down the field, winning the game and the series on a 10-yard touchdown pass. *Finally, the 1974 Packers, five-point favorites against the 1975 Browns, were stunned when the Browns converted a 52-yard attempt to lead 19-17. The Packers hurriedly pushed to the very limit of field goal range and tried a desperate 57-yarder as time ran out, but the kick was well short. Well, campers, we've come down to it. The last group is upcoming, the one that features all the NFL champions from 1937-1965 (minus 1943-45) and all Super Bowl winners. This should be fun. 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06-03-2004, 10:56 AM
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06-03-2004, 12:50 PM
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More Oilers losses...
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We can't all have a team full of felons propelling us on to further rounds.   SI
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Hey, I'll hate on the Cowboys, and my team has just as many rings as the Cowboys, and we got ours sooner than you did. So nyah nyah nyah!
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49ers = 5 Super Bowl appearances
Cowboys = 8 Super Bowl appearances We've been more dominant over the years, so there!!!
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Here it is, the list of champion pairings is revealed for one and all:
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Random selection is funny sometimes. As I was finding out what kind of opposition the league champs were going up against, I seemed to run across a lot of 12- or 13- or -14- loss teams, though there are a number of playoff squads in the group. Marquee matchup? Hmm.... The only conference champ going in the group is 2003 Carolina against 1973 Miami, but I think the Panthers should sweep on the 30-year normalization differential. I think I'll go with...1989 AFC East Champion Buffalo taking on our most recent Super Bowl winner, the 2003 Patriots. Normalization differences are fairly minimal (a couple of points to the Patriots and from the Bills, but not the discrepancy in other pairings in the group). There are several other matchups of playoff teams going up against the league winners, obviously: *1990 Miami, a wild card team that year, gets the 1940 Bears, the official Monsters of the Midway, the ones that buried the Redskins 73-0 in the title game that year. I don't know if they'll be able to do that to the Dolphins, though. *The 1991 Raiders get the 1947 Chicago Cardinals. It's the only championship in Cardinals history. *The 1988 Oilers draw the 1950 Browns. *Another Oiler team, the 1987 squad, also gets into the wayback machine, getting paired up with the 1952 Detroit Lions. *1990 NFC Central winner Chicago takes on the 1955 Browns. *The 1992 Philadelphia Eagles were a wild card that year. They get to play the 1957 Lions. *The 2000 Colts, a wild card team, draw the 1960 Eagles. *In a recurring theme, four of five Packers teams from the 1960s that won titles will be taking on wild card entrants. First, 1990 Raiders won the AFC West. They'll be tasked with taking on the 1961 Packers. *The 2003 Tennessee Titans clash with the 1965 Packers, the last NFL team to win the championship in a non-Super Bowl year. *2002 Indianapolis draws the priviledge of taking on Super Bowl I winners 1966 Green Bay. *The last wild card-Green Bay pairing is the 1994 Chiefs taking on Super Bowl II winner 1967 Green Bay. *1998 NFC East winner Dallas draws Super Bowl V champ 1970 Baltimore. *2000 AFC East champ Miami is paired with 1971 Dallas, Super Bowl VI winners. *2003 wild card entrant Baltimore takes on Super Bowl XVII winner Washington, winners of the strike-shortened 1982 season. *1988 Cleveland, a wild card that year, gets to play Super Bowl XXV champ 1990 New York Giants. *2003 wild card team Seattle gets the 1991 Redskins, winners of Super Bowl XXVI *The 1979 Eagles, yet another wild card, go up against the second of the Broncos back-to-back champs, 1998 Denver, winners of Super Bowl XXXIII. *Finally, 1981 wild card Buffalo get the wonderful task of trying to contain the 1999 St. Louis Rams, winners of Super Bowl XXXIV. I'll go out on some limbs and make some general predictions: *I expect that of all the champs from 1937-1960, only a handful will survive. 1946 Bears (against 1961 Steelers) and 1958 Colts (a pretty good bet against the 1948 Steelers) are the most likely to move on. *The remaining pre-merger champs, I put a 50/50 chance of survival. 1962 Packers, 1963 Bears, 1964 Browns, 1968 Jets, and 1969 Chiefs are the most likely winners. *For the 1970s teams, I see most making it through. I do think 1971 Dallas and 1973 Miami are probably not going to move on. *Moving to the 1980s, I think the only team in real danger is the 1982 Redskins since they'll have to face the 2003 Ravens. I think the others are at least even money or favored. *For the post 1990s winners, I think pretty much all of them will survive, though I expect perhaps one or two to be upset. The most likely would be the 2003 Patriots going up against the 1989 Bills. Perhaps the 1974 Rams can beat the 1996 Packers, but it's a stretch. |
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Because this group is what it is, I've decided to report it in more detail than the others. I'll do it by decade, starting with the 1937-1939 champs.
1981 Atlanta vs 1937 Washington *Game 1 (Atlanta -21): Atlanta gets the early jump, going up 17-7 after one. Washington cuts into the lead a little bit in the second, but still trails at half 24-16. The teams trade touchdowns in the third and then Atlanta salts the game away with a touchdown in the fourth. Atlanta wins game one 38-23, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Atlanta -29): The Falcons came out to play this time and ripped the Redskins from the start. They lead 17-3 after one and 24-3 at the half. A scoreless third for both sides gave way to another two touchdowns from the Falcons against a Redskin field goal. Atlanta wins game two 38-6, wins series 2-0. 1975 New Orleans vs. 1938 New York Giants *Game 1 (NY Giants -6): A defensive slugfest at the Polo Grounds in game one. The Saints struck first with a TD in the first quarter, but the Giants came back with 10 in the second to lead at the half 10-7. A Giant field goal makes it 13-7 heading to the fourth quarter. Both defenses pitch shutouts in the final stanza and the Saints' last attempt to score ends in a turnover on downs. NY Giants win game one 13-7, lead series 1-0. *Game 2 (New Orleans -2): Facing elimination at home in the Superdome, the Saints come out hard while the Giants failed to come out at all. A scoreless first quarter gave way to 27 unanswered Saints points over the next three as New Orleans shuts out the visiting Giants. New Orleans wins game two 27-0, series tied 1-1. 1986 Miami vs. 1939 Green Bay *Game 1 (Miami -14): 1986 Miami and 1939 Green Bay stage a great opening contest in Green Bay. Each team matches the other score for score the entire way. The game is tied 7-7 after one, 17-17 at the half, 24-all after three. Green Bay strikes for a touchdown in the fourth, but Miami responds to tie it again at 31. The Packers have the ball last, though. They move down the field and score the game-winning touchdown on a 25-yard pass. Green Bay wins game one 38-31, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Miami -22): The series shifts to the Orange Bowl and the Dolphins do what is needed to stay in the series. After a 10-6 first quarter, the Dolphin defense shuts down the Packers the rest of the way. The result is the Dolphins outscoring the Packers 31-6 over the last three quarters. Miami wins game two 41-12, series tied 1-1. |
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1940 to 1949 champions...
1990 Miami vs. 1940 Chicago *Game one (Miami -18): They may be the Monsters of the Midway in 1940, but they seem to be no match for a modern-era squad like the 1990 Dolphins. The Bears are embarassed at home as the Dolphins tally touchdowns in each quarter and shut out the Bears. Miami wins game one 31-0, lead series 1-0. *Game two (Miami -26): The Bears fare a little bit better at the Orange Bowl, but the Dolphins are still too much. The Dolphins get the early jump and lead 10-0 after one. The Bears show some fight in the second, scoring a touchdown, but Miami boots a pair of field goals to keep them at arm's reach, 16-7 at the half. The Dolphin offense adds an insurace touchdown in the third, though it isn't needed as the defense blanks the Bears the rest of the way. Miami wins 23-7, wins series 2-0. 1982 San Francisco vs. 1941 Chicago Game one (Chicago -6): This Bears team gets a better draw than the 1940 squad, drawing one of the few teams that didn't make the playoffs in 1982. The Bears open hot, scoring the game's first 17 points to lead at the half 17-0. The Niners try to claw back in it with 10 in the third, but the Bears continue to keep them away with a TD in response to lead 24-10 after three. The fourth features scoring a-plenty on both sides, but that's bad news for San Francisco as they can't make up the ground and in fact lose a little bit and go down to defeat as a result. Chicago wins game one 41-20, lead series 1-0. *Game 2 (San Francisco -2): At home and facing elimination, the 49ers blitz the Bears to stay alive in the series. The defense is stout, surrendering only a touchdown in the second quarter, while the offense plays great throughout and the series goes to a third game. San Francisco wins game two 33-7, series tied 1-1. 1986 Seattle vs. 1942 Washington *Game 1 (Seattle -11): The 1986 Seahawks come to DC and thrash the 1942 champions in the series opener. Seattle scores a TD in each of the first three quarters, while Washington is able to only score in the third in response. Seattle then eliminates any chance of a comeback in the fourth with two more touchdowns. Seattle wins game one 35-7, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Seattle -19): Game two at the Kingdome sees Washington fighting hard to stay in the series. The teams are tied at 7 after the first quarter. The Seahawks create some space in the second, however, with 10 unanswered points to lead 17-7 at half. A scoreless third gives way to a fourth quarter that sees Seattle finally put the game away with two touchdowns. A late Redskin touchdown is rendered meaningless. Seattle wins game two 31-14, wins series 2-0. 1961 Pittsburgh vs. 1946 Chicago *Game 1 (Chicago -4): The Bears come out fast, producing 16 points in the first quarter to lead 16-3 after one. Chicago adds another 13 in the second and lead 29-3 at half and cruise home to the win after that. Chicago wins game one 35-10, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Pittsburgh -4): The Steelers face elimination at home and start hot, determined to put it away early. They jump ahead 14-0 after the first. The Bears fight back some in the second with a TD, while the Steelers only get a field goal to make the halftime score 17-7. The Steelers seemed to have things in control with two field goals in the third to make it 23-7, but the Bears attempted to rally in the fourth. They struck for a touchdown, but failed the two-point attempt that would have closed the gap to eight. The Bears added a field goal to cut the lead to 7, but could not get any closer and turned the ball over on downs on their last chance. Pittsburgh wins game two 23-16, series tied 1-1. 1991 LA Raiders vs. 1947 Chicago Cardinals *Game 1 (LA Raiders -5): A tight first quarter turned into a rout as the Raiders blew open a 7-3 game with 24 straight points over the second and third quarters. The Cardinals did get a touchdown finally in the third, but the damage was done. The teams traded touchdowns in the fourth, but it was meaningless to the result. LA Raiders win game one 38-17, lead series 1-0. *Game 2 (LA Raiders -13): The Cardinals faced elimination and gave everything they had to stay in the series at the Coliseum in LA. The Raiders scored a touchdown in the first, but the Cardinals answered with a TD of their own in the second and the game was tied at half 7-7. The Cardinals broke into the lead with a third quarter field goal and lead 10-7 going to the fourth. But, the Raiders produced their answer, a touchdown midway into the fourth to retake the lead and the defense made it stand up the rest of the way, sending the Cardinals back to Chicago eliminated. LA Raiders win game two 14-10, win series 2-0. 1980 Tampa Bay vs. 1948 Philadelphia *Game 1 (Philadelphia - 7): The Eagles were home favorites, but the Buccs proved to be rude guests. They drew first blood on a first quarter TD and then lead 10-7 at the half. Neither team scratched in the third, but both scored a touchdown in the fourth to leave the Buccs ahead by 3 late. The Eagles made one last push into field goal range and set up for a 48-yarder. Snap, hold...it's blocked! Tampa Bay gets the block and wins the game! Tampa Bay wins game one 17-14, lead series 1-0 *Game 2 (Tampa Bay -1): A tight series came to another tight ending as the teams produced a defensive battle at Tampa Stadium. The Eagles seized the early lead with a touchdown in the first, but it would be the only points they got the entire game. Tampa would not score until the third with a field goal to make it 7-3. The Buccs then took the lead on a touchdown in the fourth. The Eagle offense continued to struggle and Philadelphia never gained a chance to go for a game-tying field goal. Tampa Bay wins 10-7, wins series 2-0. 2001 Indianapolis vs. 1949 Philadelphia Game 1 (Pick 'em): This game wasn't decided until the fourth quarter. Philly lead 7-6 after one, but Indy jumped in front by halftime 13-10. The Colts stretched their lead to six after three at 23-17. In the fourth, the Colts finally put the game away with 10 unanswered points. Indianapolis wins game one 33-17, leads series 1-0. Game 2 (Indianapolis -8): The Eagles proved their champion mettle by going on the road to the RCA Dome and giving the Colts both barrels. Philadelphia jumped on the Colts early with two first quarter touchdowns to lead 14-3 after the first. The Colts fought back in the second, but couldn't get much closer and trailed 21-13 at the half. Philadelphia and Indy then produced a sterling offensive show in the third, with the Eagles getting the slight edge and lead 35-26 after the third. The teams seemed to have spent their energies though and defenses ruled the fourth, bad news for the Colts as the Eagles get a huge win and force a game three. Philadelphia wins game two 38-26, series tied 1-1. Last edited by Wolfpack : 06-04-2004 at 11:17 AM. |
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06-04-2004, 01:04 PM
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1950 to 1959 champs...
1988 Houston Oilers vs. 1950 Cleveland *Game 1 (Oilers -2): A good first half produced an even better second half. The teams were knotted at 10 at the break, but the Oilers looked like they were going to run away with it in the third. They broke through for two touchdowns while the Browns managed just a field goal to take a 24-13 lead going to the fourth. But the Browns came back. Cleveland hit on a touchdown to close to 24-19 and went for two, but failed. Cleveland tallied another touchdown and again went for two to get a three-point lead, but again they failed, leaving them ahead 25-24. Houston then struck for a lightning touchdown just after the two minute warning on a 65-yard bomb to retake the lead. The Browns were unable to answer and Houston escapes Cleveland with the win. Houston Oilers win game one 31-25, lead series 1-0 *Game 2 (Oilers -10): Game two at the Astrodome proved to be no contest after the second quarter. The Browns hung tough in the first, trailing 7-6. But, the Oilers blew it open with two touchdowns in the second and another in the third to build a 28-6 lead and cruised to the win and claimed the series. Houston Oilers win game two 34-12, win series 2-0. 1997 Arizona vs. 1951 LA Rams *Game 1 (Arizona -4): Game one in LA was completely dominated by the Cardinals as they raced to a 20-0 halftime lead and rolled to a shutout win. Arizona wins game one 30-0, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Arizona -12): The Rams fought hard for a half at Sun Devil Stadium, but the Cardinals were again too much. LA lead 10-7 after one, but the Cardinals got 10 in the second to take a 17-10 halftime lead. The Cards then put up another 10 in the third against a Rams field goal and then got two touchdowns in the fourth to put the game away and take the series. Arizona wins game two 41-20, win series 2-0. 1987 Houston Oilers vs. 1952 Detroit *Game 1 (Oilers -1): A see-saw battle in Detroit featured the Oilers going up early 14-3, but the Lions narrowed it to 24-17 at the break. The Lions continued to rally in the second half, closing the gap to just four at 31-27 going to the fourth quarter. The Oilers extended their lead with a touchdown in the fourth to lead 38-27. The Lions answered back with a touchdown, but failed the two-point attempt to get to within three. The Oiler defense then snuffed out any remaining threat from the Lions to secure the win. Houston Oilers win game one 38-33, lead series 1-0. *Game 2 (Oilers -9): The Lions, facing elimination, came out fighting like, well, lions in game two. They scored all the first half points to lead 13-0 at the break. In the third, the Oilers made an effort to rally, but the Lions kept them at arm's reach and lead 20-10 after three. The Lions defense then held Houston to just a field goal and got an insurance touchdown to claim a crucial win at the Astrodome. Detroit wins game two 27-13, series tied 1-1. 1966 San Francisco vs. 1953 Detroit *Game 1 (Detroit -2): The 1953 Lions defended their home turf beautifully with a sterling first half effort that netted them a 24-7 halftime lead. The Niners never really threatened in the second half and the Lions pick up the game one win. Detroit wins game one 31-14, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (San Francisco -6): Game two at Candlestick featured a great first half of football. The Lions lead 10-7 after the first, but the 49ers tallied two second quarter TDs and took the lead 21-20 at the half. San Francisco's defense then shut out the Detroit offense for the rest of the game while the offense produced the breathing room in the third with a touchdown and a pair of field goals. San Francisco wins game two 34-20, series tied 1-1. 1988 LA Raiders vs. 1954 Cleveland *Game 1 (Cleveland -4): Game one at Cleveland Stadium turned into a Browns romp early as Cleveland jumped on the Raiders and lead 24-7 at the half. The Browns continued to dominate in the second half and the Raiders never threatened. Cleveland takes the opener easily. Cleveland wins game one 34-7, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (LA Raiders -4): Game two at the Colisseum proved to be a much tighter affair than game one. Cleveland took the early 14-10 lead after the first quarter, but a touchdown before halftime put the Raiders in front 17-14. In the third, the Raiders tried to pull away, scoring a touchdown and a field goal to go up 27-17. The Browns fought back to tie it up at 27, but another Raider touchdown put the Raiders up again. The defense then turned aside the last Brown push on downs to claim the win. LA Raiders win game two 34-27, series tied 1-1 1990 Chicago vs. 1955 Cleveland *Game 1 (Chicago -5): A tough, close first half was blown open by the Bears in the second stanza. The Bears lead only 10-0 at the break, but two touchdowns in each of the third and fourth quarters turned the game into a romp. Chicago wins game one 38-11, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Chicago -13): The Bears looked to put the game away early and lead 17-6 after the first, but the Browns slowly came back. They closed the gap to 24-16 at the half and then drew closer still at 27-23 after the third. But, the Bears finally broke the Browns' back with a crucial fourth quarter touchdown that sealed the game and the series. Chicago wins game two 34-23, wins series 2-0. 1988 New England vs. 1956 New York Giants *Game 1 (New England -2): Game one at the Polo Grounds was a defensive battle all the way. Neither team managed more than field goals the first three quarters, which resulted in a 6-3 lead for New England in the fourth. Late in the game, the Giants made one final push and broke through on a 30-yard touchdown pass with under a minute left. New England didn't have enough time to respond and the Giants take game one at home. NY Giants win game one 10-6, lead series 1-0. *Game 2 (New England -10): The series shifts to Foxboro. The Patriots and Giants again stage a close game throughout. New England struck first with a first quarter touchdown and then match a Giant TD with one of their own to lead 14-7 at the half. Neither team threatened in the third, but the Giants finally evened the game with a fourth quarter touchdown. But, in the game's waning seconds, the Patriots took the lead and the win on a 39-yard field goal. New England wins game two 17-14, series tied 1-1. 1992 Philadelphia vs. 1957 Detroit *Game 1 (Philadelphia -16): The Eagles completely dominated game one in Detroit. They broke out to a 14-0 lead early and rolled to a convincing win from there. Philadelphia wins game one 28-6, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Philadelphia -24): The Eagles continued to dominate the Lions at the Vet in Philadelphia, though it wasn't reflected on the scoreboard until late. Neither team scored in the first and both scored touchdowns in the second to go to the half 7-7, though the Eagles were clearly the more dominant team. Their mistakes were keeping the Lions alive. Philly took the lead for good in the third quarter and then got insurance points in the fourth to secure the game and the series. Philadelphia wins game two 24-7, wins the series 2-0. 1948 Pittsburgh vs. 1958 Baltimore Colts *Game 1 (Colts -28): The 1958 Colts are one of the few pre-merger teams to be heavily favored in a series and they didn't disappoint, trashing the Steelers in the opener. They only lead 13-6 at the half, but a dominating second half, including 17 points in the fourth quarter, sealed the win. Baltimore Colts win game one 37-13, lead series 1-0. *Game 2 (Colts -20): The Colts are the first champion team to advance to the next round, but the Steelers didn't give it to them. Their defense was stout and held the Colts to just the 14 points they scored in the first half. However, the Colt defense was even better, holding the Steelers to just a touchdown in the first quarter and turning away any other Steeler drives to win the game and series. Baltimore wins game two 14-7, wins series 2-0. 1981 Denver vs. 1959 Baltimore Colts *Game 1 (Colts -3): A close game and a nailbiter finish in the opener at Baltimore. A field goal in the first was the difference at the half as Baltimore lead 10-7. The Broncos managed to tie it up in the fourth with a field goal and then booted a 30-yard field goal as time expired to send the crowd home disappointed. Denver wins game one 13-10, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Denver -5): It wasn't pretty by any stretch, but the Colts will take it. A field goal fest broke out at Mile High Stadium, with the teams combining for five field goals. Baltimore converted five of them and got a touchdown to boot, but the Broncos only managed the one field goal. Baltimore Colts win game two 19-3, series tied 1-1. |
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06-04-2004, 01:26 PM
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What round is this in? How many teams are left? I'm confused.
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06-04-2004, 01:36 PM
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Current round is round two. There are (at the moment) 561 teams left. The round will evetually finish with 512 teams advancing.
(Sorry for the change in reporting styles if it confused anyone. Since these were the league winners, I figured I'd do something a little different for them.) Last edited by Wolfpack : 06-04-2004 at 01:38 PM. |
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06-04-2004, 02:21 PM
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I like this format for the last group. Go 2003 Panthers!
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06-04-2004, 02:34 PM
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1960 to 1969:
2000 Indianapolis vs. 1960 Philadelphia Game 1 (Indianapolis -11): The Colts were behind early in Philadelphia early as the Eagles jumped to a 14-7 lead after the first. An exchange of touchdowns in the second left the Eagles in front 21-14 at the half. But, the Colts got things cranking in the the second half, while the Eagles sputtered and stalled. The Colts tied it up in the third and then surged to victory in the fourth with 24 straight points. Indianapolis wins game one 38-21, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Indianapolis -19): After an initially sluggish start, the Colts took care of business at the RCA Dome. A field goal lead after one became a 16-0 halftime advantage and the Colts rolled to the series sweep from there. Indianapolis wins game two 40-20, wins series 2-0. 1990 LA Raiders vs. 1961 Green Bay *Game 1 (LA Raiders -2): The Raiders jumped out to leads of 7-0 and 17-7 in the first half, but the Packers rallied. A touchdown in the third made it 17-14. The Packers then broke in front, but each time, the Raiders matched the score until the scoreboard showed the Raiders ahead 27-24 late in the fourth. The Packers mounted one last drive. They worked their way into the red zone and then struck for a touchdown form 7 yards out with a few seconds left in the game to win. Green Bay wins game one 31-27, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (LA Raiders -10): The Raiders and Packers staged another thriller, this time in LA. LA went up early 10-7 and kept the lead through halftime. In the third, the Raiders expanded the lead to 20-14. Green Bay struck for a touchdown midway through the fourth to jump ahead 21-20. But, this time it was LA's turn to make a drive to win. Like the Packers, they pulled it off, scoring on a 29-yard touchdown pass. LA Raiders win game two 27-21, series tied 1-1. 1966 Denver vs. 1962 Green Bay *Game 1 (Green Bay -42 (!)): This series was expected to be a laugher for the Packers against a very undermanned Denver squad and game one proved it to be so. The Packers got two touchdowns in the first and were never seriously challenged. Green Bay wins game one 28-0, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Green Bay -34): At least Denver didn't get shut out of the series, but that is about all they can claim. The Packers got ahead early and stayed there. The Broncos got a TD in the second but trailed at the half 17-7. Green Bay would tack on another 17 in the second half to make sure of things. Green Bay wins 34-7, wins series 2-0. 1971 New York Giants vs. 1963 Chicago *Game 1 (Chicago -19): The Bears may have been favored, but initially, the Giants didn't go easily. They actually lead 3-0 for much of the first half. But, the Bears got things untracked and racked up the game's next 24 points and easily took game one. Chicago wins game one 24-3, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Chicago -11): The Giants continued to play well, but just not well enough in game two. The defense was stout, but Chicago's was better. The first half was scoreless, giving the Giants fans some hope, but the Bears put up 14 in the third, which was more than enough to secure the game with their defense. Chicago wins game two 21-3, wins series 2-0. 1989 New England vs. 1964 Cleveland *Game 1 (Cleveland -6): The visiting Patriots gave the Browns all they wanted in the series opener. A methodical attack produced a touchdown in each quarter of the game. Cleveland found itself down 28-7 early in the fourth as a result. But, they didn't fold. They got two touchdowns back and trailed just 28-21, but could not get over the hump one last time and the Patriots escape with the upset. New England wins game one 28-21, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (New England -2): The Patriots closed out the series by burying the Browns in the second half. A hard-fought contest saw New England ahead 14-10 at the half. But, the Browns put up two touchdowns unanswered in the third and then outscored Cleveland 10-9 in the fourth to clinch the game and series. New England wins game two 38-19, wins series 2-0. 2003 Tennessee vs. 1965 Green Bay *Game 1 (Tennessee -7): The Titans administered a methodical beat-down of the Packers at Lambeau Field in game one. The defense surrendered only a first quarter field goal, while the offense produced points in each quarter to give the Titans the win. Tennessee wins game one 24-3, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Tennessee -15): The Titans dismissed the 1965 champions with ruthless efficiency in Nashville. The Titans jumped ahead early, leading 13-0 after the first and 20-7 at the half. The Titans extended the lead to 30-14 in the third, and finished things out from there. Tennessee wins game two 36-14, wins series 2-0. 2002 Indianapolis vs. 1966 Green Bay Game 1 (Pick 'em): The 1966 Super Bowl champs gave the Packer fans something to cheer about. They started well and lead 10-3 at the half. Their stout defense continued to play well in the second half and the offense got an insurance touchdown in the fourth to secure the win in Green Bay. Green Bay wins game one 17-3, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Indianapolis -8): At the RCA Dome, the Colts repaid the favor done to them by the Packers in game one. The Colt defense gave up just a first quarter field goal, while the offense finally cracked the Packer defense in the fourth for 10 points to go with 10 points scored earlier in the game to force a game three. Indianapolis wins game two 20-3, series tied 1-1. 1994 Kansas City vs. 1967 Green Bay Game one (Pick 'em): KC got the early lead on a first quarter touchdown and held on to it through the remainder of the half. The teams traded touchdowns in the third, so KC remained in from 14-7 going to the fourth. Green Bay managed two field goals, but they were sandwiched around a KC touchdown that left the Chiefs ahead 21-13, a lead they would not relenquish. Kansas City wins game one 21-13, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Kansas City -8): With a chance to close out the Packers at home, the Chiefs took it to Green Bay. Green Bay got on the board first with a touchdown, but the Chiefs shut them out the rest of the way, scoring 26 unanswered points to claim the sweep. Kansas City wins game two 26-7, wins series 2-0. 1983 Green Bay vs. 1968 New York Jets *Game 1 (NY Jets -3): Rumors of Namath guarantees before this contest were unfounded. At any rate, the Packers came to play this game. They hopped on the Jets early, busting them for a 17-6 halftime lead. The Jets scored a touchdown in the third and risked going for two to get to 17-14, but failed, leaving them five down. The Pack then scored a touchdown to lead 24-12, but the Jets answered to cut the lead back to 24-19. The Packers stayed strong, though, putting the game out of reach with another fourth quarter touchdown. Green Bay wins game one 31-19, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Green Bay -5): Up against the wall and in a hostile environment at Lambeau Field, the Jets acquitted themselves nicely. A spectacular game two had to be settled in overtime as a result. The Packers got the early 14-7 lead after the first quarter. The teams traded touchdowns in the second leaving the Pack up 21-14 at the half. The Jets surged ahead in the third quarter briefly, getting a pair of field goals and a touchdown to go up 27-21, but a Packer touchdown put Green Bay back in front. In the fourth, the Jets hit on a touchdown to retake the lead. They went for two to extend the lead to seven, but failed. Green Bay answered with a touchdown and succeeded on their two-point conversion to push the lead to 36-33. The Jets refused to back down, scoring a touchdown to retake the lead, but a crucial thing happened afterwards. The Packers broke through and blocked the extra point, leaving the Jets up 39-36. Green Bay would take the next possession and tie the game at 39 on a field goal. After a Jet punt, the Packers had enough time to move downfield and attempt a 45-yard field goal, but they missed, sending the game to overtime. The Jets got the ball first and marched downfield against the Packers with ease. They reached the two-yard line and set up for a chipshot field goal to win. Again, the Packer line crumpled the Jet blockers and a second, more stunning kick block occured. The Packers were still in it! They took advantage of their new life and moved back downfield and scored the series-winning touchdown on a 27-yard run. Green Bay wins game two 45-39 (OT), wins series 2-0. 1974 Dallas vs. 1969 Kansas City *Game 1 (Kansas City -6): A pedestrian affair for most of the game in Kansas City, the Chiefs got the early 7-0 lead, only to watch the Cowboys tie it in the second quarter. Kansas City got another touchdown in the third and made it stand up the rest of the way to take game one. Kansas City wins game one 14-7, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Dallas -2): Back home in Dallas, the Cowboys tried to even up the series and had their chances to do it. They lead 7-0 at the half, but KC tied it up in the third. An exchange of field goals ensued, but then KC put together a touchdown march that left them up 17-10. Dallas made one last push late, but the KC defense was strong and forced a turnover on downs to claim the game and series. Kansas City wins game two 17-10, wins series 2-0. Last edited by Wolfpack : 06-04-2004 at 02:35 PM. |
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1970 to 1979:
1998 Dallas vs. 1970 Baltimore *Game 1 (Dallas -9): A scoreless first quarter gave way to a Dallas onslaught in the second as the Cowboys punched two into the end zone against a Colt field goal to lead 14-3 at the break. The Cowboys added another touchdown in the third to push the lead to a comfortable 21-3 and took the first game of the series from there. Dallas wins game one 28-10, leads series 1-0 *Game 2 (Dallas - 17): A daunting task awaited the Colts at Texas Stadium and it proved too much to overcome. The Cowboys lead 10-7 after one and 16-14 at the half, giving Colts fans some hope. A Cowboy touchdown expanded the lead to 23-14, still managable for the Colts to come back against. Then the roof caved in. The Cowboys put up another 17 in the fourth, capitalizing on Colts mistakes that kept them off the scoreboard the entire quarter. The Cowboys complete the sweep and complete the revenge for their 1970 cohorts, who lost Super Bowl V to the Colts. Dallas wins game two 40-14, wins series 2-0. 2000 Miami vs. 1971 Dallas *Game 1 (Miami -3): A game of near-misses and oh-so-closes ended up being won on a direct hit late in the fourth quarter. The Dolphins and Cowboys staged a defensive slugfest during the first half that left the Cowboys up 7-6 at the half. Miami pushed into the lead, answering a Cowboy field goal with a touchdown in the third to go up 13-10 heading into the fourth quarter. Dallas didn't go away and finally tied up the game 20-all just before the two-minute warning with a field goal. Miami then struck like lightning from the blue. A 63-yard bomb netted a touchdown for the Dolphins that put them up once again. Dallas tried in vain to get back down the field, but ran out of time before they could get into the end zone. Miami wins game one 27-20, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Miami -11): Dallas had a tough task in trying to even the series at Pro Player Stadium. They were definitely up to it. Dallas got the first points of the game on a first quarter touchdown, then answered a Miami score with another touchdown to take a 14-7 halftime lead. Dallas continued to keep the Dolphins at bay through the third and actually expanded the lead slightly, leading 21-13 early in the fourth. But, Miami managed to break into the end zone to cut it to 21-19 and then converted a two-pointer to tie it up at 21. Miami made a push for the winning field goal, but missed from 45 yards as time expired, sending the game to overtime. In the OT, Miami took the opening possession downfield and set up for a 33-yard attempt to win. Snap, hold, kick is up...it's good! Miami wins! Miami wins game two 24-21 (OT), wins series 2-0. 1998 Philadelphia vs. 1972 Miami *Game 1 (Miami -15): The only undefeated team in NFL history gets a pretty weak opponent for its tournament opener and easily buried them at the Orange Bowl in the opener. The Dolphins overcame a sluggish start, but the No-Name Defense was there to carry the offense until it was ready to put the game away. A 16-9 halftime lead became 26-9 after three and the Dolphins were never threatened after that. Miami wins game one 33-9, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Miami -7): The Dolphins struggled somewhat at the Vet, but did enough to get the job done. Field goals were in abundance as the Dolphins lead 6-3 after one and then 16-10 at the half. The Dolphins got another touchdown in the third to expand the lead and the No-Name Defense shut out the Eagles the rest of the way. Miami wins game two 23-10, wins series 2-0. 2003 Carolina vs. 1973 Miami *Game 1 (Miami -3): The 2003 NFC champs and the winners of Super Bowl VIII were expected to have a great game and they didn't disappoint. The Panthers got ahead early, grinding out a touchdown in the first and a field goal in the second to lead at the half 10-3. Miami managed to tie it up at 10 for a bit in the third, but a Panther field goal put them back up 13-10 heading to the fourth quarter. Miami scored a touchdown early in the fourth and jumped ahead 17-13. The Panthers answered with their own touchdown drive to retake the lead. Miami then tied things up with a field goal just inside the two-minute warning. But Carolina, as they have done so many times during their 2003 season, had one more exciting drive to make. They marched back down the field and then scored on a five-yard touchdown pass with under twenty second remaining to go up 27-20. Miami couldn't respond in time and the Panthers take game one. Carolina wins game one 27-20, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Carolina -5): The Dolphins seemed somewhat disappointed at having given up the late score to the Panthers in Miami because they were totally out of sync in the game at Charlotte. The defense kept them in it through the first half, with Carolina only up 7-0 at the break. But, the Panthers answered two Dolphin field goals with two touchdowns to go ahead 21-6 and then put it out of reach with 10 more in the fourth to sweep out the Dolphins. Carolina wins game two 31-6, wins the series 2-0. 1954 LA Rams vs. 1974 Pittsburgh *Game 1 (Pittsburgh -16): The Terrible Towels were waving at Three Rivers in this one. A slow, ugly first quarter that saw everything including a safety left Pittsburgh ahead 7-5. The Steelers then began methodically working over the Rams, scoring two touchdowns in the second to answer a Ram score to lead 21-12 at the break, and then put up another 10 in the third to answer another Ram touchdown to put the game out of reach. Pittsburgh wins game one 31-19, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Pittsburgh -8): The series moved to LA for game two and the Rams fought hard to stay in the series for another game. The teams were tied after the first quarter 7-7 and then the Rams broke ahead with a touchdown to lead 14-7 at the half. Pittsburgh responded by tying it up in the third at 14-14. The game remained tied until late in the fourth when the Steelers ate up the time remaining and scored on a touchdown pass from 6 yards out to win the game and series. Pittsburgh wins game two 21-14, wins the series 2-0. 1984 Houston Oilers vs. 1975 Pittsburgh *Game 1 (Pittsburgh -29): The 1975 Steelers were heavily favored against the 1984 Oilers and did not disappoint the home crowd in the slightest in the opener at Three Rivers. They ground out a pair of first half touchdowns to lead 14-0 at the break. The Oilers, to their credit, fought on gamely, getting the game to 14-7, but an avalanche of Steeler points descended on them and the Steelers won going away. Pittsburgh wins game one 38-7, leads series 1-0 *Game 2 (Pittsburgh -21): Nothing flashy about the return game in Houston, just a good ol' fashioned whipping by the Steelers. The Steel Curtain was in full force, shutting out the hapless Oilers, while the offense churned out the points, though the field goal they started with was more than enough to win with. Pittsburgh wins game two 20-0, wins the series 2-0. 1977 Buffalo vs. 1976 Oakland *Game 1 (Oakland -19): The Raiders were decided favorites, but couldn't seem to get the offense going for the first three quarters. An anxious crowd at Oakland Colisseum saw the pesky Bills hang around, trailing just 7-6 at the start of the fourth quarter. But, the world quickly returned to normal in the fourth as the Raiders put up a pair of touchdown passes to cement the game. Oakland wins game one 21-6, leads the series 1-0. *Game 2 (Oakland -11): The Bills continue to give the Raiders fits. Buffalo moved ahead 7-0 in the first, but the Raiders came right back with two touchdowns in the second. The Bills broke even with another touchdown of their own and the game was tied at 14 at the half. The Raiders crept ahead on a a field goal in the third and then added another one in the fourth to lead 20-14. The Bills sent their fans into delirium by striking for a touchdown and jumping ahead 21-20 with time winding down in the fourth. But, the Silver and Black fought back. They guzzled yards and time on their last possession of the game and then used a play-action pass to score from a yard out to take the lead, the game, and the series. Oakland wins 27-21, wins the series 2-0. 1981 Baltimore Colts vs. 1977 Dallas *Game 1 (1977 Dallas -27): This series seemed to be a complete and utter mismatch. From the start in game one, at least, it was. The Cowboys busted the Colts for three first quarter touchdowns and lead 21-3 by the start of the second quarter. To their credit, the Colts fought gamely on, but the damage was done. Neither team managed more than field goals, but it was more than enough for Dallas to win with. Dallas wins game one 33-12, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Dallas -19): The Colts fared a little better at home, but the Cowboys were just way too much for them to handle. Dallas stormed to a 30-10 halftime lead and cruised home to victory. Dallas wins game two 43-20, wins the series 2-0. 1976 Denver vs. 1978 Pittsburgh *Game 1 (Pittsburgh -9): The Broncos figured to put up a good fight against the Steelers, but they must be holding back for the game in Denver because they never showed up for this one. Pittsburgh scored early and often and the Steel Curtain shut out the Broncos. Pittsburgh takes game one with ease. Pittsburgh wins game one 31-0, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Pittsburgh -1): Denver was definitely into this game and gave it their all to the delight of the home crowd. But the Steelers didn't win the Super Bowl for nothing and gave as good as they got. It would take overtime to settle this one. The teams traded field goals early, then touchdowns, the net result being a 13-all game at the half. A scoreless third produced a tense fourth quarter that saw Pittsburgh go up on a touchdown, only to see the Broncos match them. Pittsburgh then converted a 32-yard field goal to get the lead with just over a minute left. Denver had just enought time to move into field goal range to attempt a tie from 48 yards out. Snap, hold, kick is away...it is...good! Tie game! We're going to OT! In the overtime, Pittsburgh took the opening possession and moved promptly into field goal range. They lined up for a 31-yard attempt. Snap, hold, it's up...and good! Pittsburgh wins and takes the series! Pittsburgh wins game two 26-23 (OT), wins the series 2-0. 1986 San Diego vs. 1979 Pittsburgh *Game 1 (Pittsburgh -13): The Chargers were expected to give the Steelers, the last of the dynasty teams, probably not its best, some trouble. It didn't seem like it would happen, though, especially in Pittsburgh. The Steelers scored the game's first 13 points to lead 13-0 at the half, but then the wheels came off. San Diego scored a TD in the third to make it 13-7, then put up another 10 in the fourth, all the while keeping the Steelers off the scoreboard the entire second half. As the gun sounded, a stunned crowd at Three Rivers could only watch as the Charger bench cleared in celebration as they take game one. San Diego wins game one 17-13, leads series 1-0. *Game 2 (Pittsburgh -5): Facing elimination, the Steelers responded like champions. They left no doubt, burying the Chargers at Jack Murphy Stadium to force a third game. The Steelers lead 10-0 at the half and then put up 17 in the third to put the game away. Pittsburgh wins game two 34-0, series tied 1-1. |
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