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Interesting of the players mentioned they all went to LSU or FSU. That's 5 of the 10.
2014 NFL draft -- Zach Mettenberger's combine urine sample diluted - ESPN
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Man, it's not hard to stop smoking weed. These players are retarded.
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05-06-2014, 09:06 AM | #54 |
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I'd kind of like an IQ test that's maybe more valuable than the wonderlic. If you just can't stop smoking marijuana even though you know it could damage your career (the only career you have any qualifications for), you are probably barely operating at an adult level mentally and are prone to all kinds of bad judgment calls.
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Having watched Hageman the last few years I don't like him in round one. He's amazing physically but he disappeared way to frequently during games and didn't have the production to match his size and strength. |
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05-06-2014, 10:14 AM | #56 |
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Giants projected to grab Eric Ebron. He would be a nice safety valve for Eli in the passanig game but there is something weird to me about taking a TE with an early first round pick.
I still think Austin Seferian-Jenkins is going to be the better player of the 2. |
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Good judgment ain't never been Mettenberger's trademark, this would not be a huge surprise to me.
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05-06-2014, 12:00 PM | #58 | |
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As much as Ebron would be nice to have, I think keeping Eli upright and getting back to winning the LoS should be the priority (followed by getting pressure on opposing QBs). And guys like Ebron (famous last words) always seem nice & explosive coming out, only to kinda sink into being "just ok" or mediocre. I know I'll probably get the "this guy is different" line, and thats fine if he is, but the safest & biggest need to me is winning the LoS again...which is what we've always done when we've been most successful. |
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05-06-2014, 12:08 PM | #59 |
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Giants need to invest in the OL and LBs.
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05-06-2014, 03:33 PM | #60 |
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Very Seahawk draft centric article, but I love the information and the way it's presented.
NFL Draft 2014: Seahawks Horizonal Draft Matrix If you're not overly interested in their explanation behind the project/how it applies to the Seahawks and just want to see how they're grading guys in the draft, just scroll down and click on the link for the matrix just over halfway down the page.
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As far as Eric Ebron goes, he can't block for shit and what I'm hearing, at least from the talking heads on the TV, is that he's immature and high maintenance. I'd be weary about having another Jeremy Shockey.
I'd like the Giants to take Aaron Donald if he's still there at 12. They need help at DT, but the big question mark with Donald is that he's undersized for a DT. Their OL was dreadful last year so they'll probably go there. I can also see them taking Mike Evans, but I doubt he'd still be there at 12. |
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I've been wondering about Donald myself. Are they making comparisons to somebody like Sapp? Sapp was a girthy dude but he's no giant (no pun intended) of a man either at about 6'0"-6'1". Pressure up the middle is really disruptive (see Tuck during that 2007 run) if you can find the right guy. Gotta research that guy a bit more now. |
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I really like Donald as a prospect - physical freak with the stats in a decent conference to back it up (most TFL in the nation and double digit sacks). He'll be a stud in a 4-3 defence
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The comparison they're making with Donald is Geno Atkins. Almost identical build, but Donald is a bit quicker I think. That can only be a good thing.
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05-06-2014, 08:42 PM | #68 |
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FWIW, very few mock drafts now have Donald lasting until the Giants. I think he's a sure fire top 10 pick at this point.
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05-07-2014, 09:48 AM | #69 | |
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Always love these types of articles:
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Watching him at Pitt it was hard to get a read. On one hand, teams knew they had to block him, and still couldn't. But, he played most of the year at about 270, no way he'd be able to get away with that in the NFL. Plenty of guy dominated in college and could never make the transition. He's certainly benefiting from entering the NFL at the right time. Much like Atkins went in the 4th(?) round, Donald probably gets passed by 6 or so years ago, because he wouldn't be big enough to hold up vs the run (in the scouts eyes). Now, nobody cares about stopping the run if you can pressure the QB.
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05-07-2014, 10:51 AM | #72 |
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If you can get through Yahoo's general awfulness, this was a nice story...
NFL draft prospect Teddy Bridgewater gives cancer-surviving mom a pink Cadillac Escalade | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports
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Maybe I am cranky, but I look at that as really irresponsible. He is far from guarenteed a huge payday and this doesnt seem like the smartest purchase to make before he has even been picked. I get the agent fronts him the money, etc...but based off a quick search the first pick in round 2 would get a signing bonus of just over 2 million, after agents and taxes that doesnt leave him a ton left over. Nice gesture and I like the meaning behind it, maybe just not the best time to do it. Last edited by Lathum : 05-07-2014 at 11:15 AM. |
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He does have insurance that pays him an amount if he isn't drafted by a certain point in the draft, so he does have a decent payday guaranteed no matter if he goes early in the first round or not.
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Sure, a decent payday, but decent enough to buy a $65,000 car with a custom paint job? Just seems irresponsible, regardless of how well intentioned he is. You see so many stories about guys who overspend and are out of the league and broke in 3 years. I just think he should have waited until he know he was in a fiscaly better situation. Again, not being critical of the act itself, I think it is very sweet, I just think the timing of it was irresponsible. Last edited by Lathum : 05-07-2014 at 11:21 AM. |
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His draft insurance only pays or if he falls out of the first due to injury or illness. |
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Dude. It's for his mom, who survived fucking breast cancer, as a Mother's Day gift. He promised this to her when he his in the the third grade. The timing couldn't be better. It's Mother's Day weekend. He's about to have his lifelong dream come true - be in the NFL - and he's honoring his mother, who raised him and three other kids alone, and survived breast cancer. The timing doesn't GET any better. It's a perfect confluence of events. Are you and saldana having marital issues?
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I agree. In the age of Vince Young, this may be a huge red flag for teams wanting a QB.
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I think I was pretty clear in saying I admire the act itself, but the road to hell is paved with god intentions. I know absolutly nothing about his mothers finances, but it seems to me that money could likely be spent in a much better way, and if he is succesful in the NFL he could buy her the car then. I know as a parent I wouldn't want my kid buying me a car when that money could be better spent on other things, given his financial uncertainty. I am seperating the gesture itself from the financial aspect, if you cant do that then fine. I would say most broke people, NFL draftee or not, are people who can't seperate emotion from finance. Last edited by Lathum : 05-07-2014 at 12:01 PM. |
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Even after taxes I would think 2 MILLION dollars leaves enough for one "big" purchase. Now if he buys multiple houses as well then hes got a problem.
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but it isn't. I will preface this by saying I am pretty much pulling number out of thin air, so feel free to argue them if you like, but I think they are probably pretty close. Lets say he gets a 2 million bonus, Agent takes what, 10%? So he is at 1.8. Uncle Sam takes 40%, so he is at 1.08 mil Take out the car for Mom and that puts him at about a million even. So he is using about 10% of his total worth at that time ( assuming he doesn't have any other income we don't know about), to buy a car for his Mom. Not smart. I would say he would get about 500K/ year salary. Nice, but not huge, generational money. If he is a bust and gone from the league in a few years that isn't a lot of money to build for your future. Again, great gesture and I hope he is a starter in the league for 15 years and taken in the top 10, I like the guy and will root for him, but I stand by my statement that this isn't a great financial decision. |
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Broke people must be some charming-ass motherfuckers then!
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Buying a car, period, is not a great financial decision. Come to think of it, having kids isn't a great financial decision either. There are lots of things that aren't great financial decisions.
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totally agree, and I would venture to say the majority of people who have both can't afford either, but they really want them or feel entitled to them so they have them anyway. |
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So how much money does a person need to earn in order to give his mom an expensive gift? If not 1.08 million then what?
If I ever happened to earn that much I would have no problem whatsoever using 10% of a bonus to buy my parents a gift.
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The biggest problem would be co-signing dozens of loans for friends and family members to finance risky business schemes. The "Antoine Walker problem". Buying a car for his mom, that's pretty awesome. |
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The problem is you don't know your future earning potential, you could be out of the league in 3 years. The problem is you can't look at it as a bonus, you have to look at it as money you need to live off of the rest of your life, because the big NFL payday is far from an assurance. |
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Oh shi... I have two cars and two kids on the way. I am like most broke people!
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I think you'll be okay, since you're a lawyer, and presumeably well-paid. Only occupation more likely to be able to handle that would be, I don't know, maybe a professional athlete or sumfin like that.
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I think if you gave any reasonable person 2-2.5M by age 26 (approximate age of busting and being out of the league), they could easily build for their future even with a 100k car purchase in there. It's not like he'll never get a job outside of QB in his life. I don't think you can make that leap with one purchase. Yes if he goes and buys another 10 cars sure. |
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He should probably buy his mom a lightly used Chevy Cruz and then bid her adieu.
I'm sure he's getting some smaller checks from like underarmor. Or if not paying off 65k over 4-5 years is minor. |
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Maybe I could reach out to Teddy and offer him one of my "friends and family" discounts to help alleviate the financial burden. We'll get him into a GM car one way or another.
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Chevy Cruz? Was he on Sabado Noche en Vivo?
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I thought he was a marginal outfield prospect with some AL team.
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The Chevy Cruz is made in Canada with Cuban parts but is 100% unequivocally 'merican.
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The Angels drafted that kid. I have no idea if he is still in the system, though. Nice pull.
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