NBA Draft! - Page 2

Samdari · 06-28-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Rumors have the jazz trading with the blazers for #3 overall to get into the position for Deron Williams.

This is done. #6,#27 and a conditional future first for #3.

You look good to get Paul at #4 Lloyd, unless of course, Atlanta throws a wrench in the works and does not take Marvin Williams at #2 (since their two best players are already small forwards).

rexallllsc · 06-28-2005, 01:27 PM

Wow. Williams over Paul would be shocking to me.

stevew · 06-28-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rexallllsc

Wow. Williams over Paul would be shocking to me.

Not really, Williams is a few inches taller, and more of a pro sized PG. Paul is right at 6', and might have a harder time playing defense in the pros. Both look to be very good players, I'd probably pick Williams first tho, too.

LloydLungs · 06-28-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

You look good to get Paul at #4 Lloyd, unless of course, Atlanta throws a wrench in the works and does not take Marvin Williams at #2 (since their two best players are already small forwards).

Of course, if Atlanta takes Paul, Portland/Utah takes D. Williams and M. Williams slips to us at #4, that would be fine too. I've always worked under the assumption that Marvin Williams would be off the board, and I'd be shocked if he wasn't.

This draft may be the most trade-dominated draft in awhile.

jbmagic · 06-28-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

This is done. #6,#27 and a conditional future first for #3.

You look good to get Paul at #4 Lloyd, unless of course, Atlanta throws a wrench in the works and does not take Marvin Williams at #2 (since their two best players are already small forwards).

damn

the lakers were trying to move up to #3 but portland wanted chucky Atkins, Butler and lakers #10

Lakers didnt want to give up the #10 pick.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2005, 03:35 PM

ping: anyone who wants to take Paul Pierce off our goddamn hands for oh say...two future 1st rounders?

ice4277 · 06-28-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RailsFS

Where'd you hear this? I haven't heard anything about it, but yeah, I think I'd pull the trigger on that deal as well (as long as we'd be willing to pay the salary).

From a friend at one of the local sports talk statons. He mentioned it to me in passing the other day, so I dunno if it ever reached the light of day for public consumption.

digamma · 06-28-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Not really, Williams is a few inches taller, and more of a pro sized PG. Paul is right at 6', and might have a harder time playing defense in the pros. Both look to be very good players, I'd probably pick Williams first tho, too.

Paul's also had trouble when playing against larger, more physical point guards (like Williams or Jarrett Jack).

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 06:28 PM

Wow, I wasn't that excited until I got home and saw ESPN's border on the screen saying "Milwaukee" is up, and "ATL Next".

Eeeee. Go Pacers!

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

This is done. #6,#27 and a conditional future first for #3.

You look good to get Paul at #4 Lloyd, unless of course, Atlanta throws a wrench in the works and does not take Marvin Williams at #2 (since their two best players are already small forwards).

I just took a look at Atlanta's roster. I really can't see where Marvin Williams fits in on this roster Childress, Diaw, Harrington, and Josh Smith. Who gets the boot? I know by season's end, the Hawks really liked what they were getting from Smith. Harrington was their leading scorer. Childress and Diaw were first rounders last year

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 06:35 PM

I heard a strange rumor that the Pacers trade for Al Harrington back from Atlanta for a 2nd rounder, and a couple of our lesser players.

Of course, I won't believe it until I see it.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-28-2005, 06:38 PM

Pacersfan - if Marvin is the pick, I think that's far from the strangest trade rumor I've ever seen. Only 2 of the 4 small forwards really belong on the floor at the same time & Atlanta ain't exactly in the position of worrying about their 10 deep rotation right now.

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 06:50 PM

Oh, I understand Atlanta wanting to get rid of him, but what about him wanting to come back to Indiana?

He left because he wanted out of here last year. Would he really be able to accept being a bench player to stay here ... again?

I'm not so sure.

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 06:53 PM

DAMN!

I wanted to see Chris Paul in Charlotte.

Oh well, they'll probably take Gerald Green now.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2005, 06:56 PM

Shit. Utah's idiotic decision got my hopes up that New Orleans would somehow pass on Paul.

Do the Bobcats go with Felton or Gerald Green?

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacersfan46

Oh, I understand Atlanta wanting to get rid of him, but what about him wanting to come back to Indiana?

He left because he wanted out of here last year. Would he really be able to accept being a bench player to stay here ... again?

I'm not so sure.

Why would Indiana want him back would be my question?

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Why would Indiana want him back would be my question?

He would replace Stephen Jackson as our main guy on the bench. He's a capable scorer, and great defender.

With Reggie leaving Jackson moves into the starting lineup. So, Harrington would again be our 6th man.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2005, 07:00 PM

Alright. Now let's see May drop to 13.

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 07:00 PM

Wow, that's early for Felton. I think they could have taken Green, and then moved up from #13 to get Felton.

I just don't know if I like that. I'm disappointed in the Bobcats. You're going to suck for a while, it's unavoidable. Why not take Green, and hope you got a superstar?

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2005, 07:03 PM

Early for Felton? There's no doubt in my mind that he'll have a better career than Deron Williams.

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacersfan46

Wow, that's early for Felton. I think they could have taken Green, and then moved up from #13 to get Felton.

I just don't know if I like that. I'm disappointed in the Bobcats. You're going to suck for a while, it's unavoidable. Why not take Green, and hope you got a superstar?

If you believed Bickerstaff that he would have Okafor first if he had the first pick last year, then this pick makes sense. Known college player over potentially great HS player

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2005, 07:07 PM

Webster over Green?

jbmagic · 06-28-2005, 07:08 PM

i hope Green falls to the Lakers #10 pick

kingfc22 · 06-28-2005, 07:13 PM

Whoa...Charlie is not THAT good.

Warriors have a chance at Frye now. Woot!

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 07:14 PM

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Toronto have you lost your mind?

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i hope Green falls to the Lakers #10 pick

For what?

The Lakers need a PG that can get the ball to the scorers on that roster. One that can shoot from long range as well.

Not another SG. You already have Kobe ....

Lathum · 06-28-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Whoa...Charlie is not THAT good.

Warriors have a chance at Frye now. Woot!

Frye is gonna be a huge bust.

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Whoa...Charlie is not THAT good.

Warriors have a chance at Frye now. Woot!

Frye to replace Thomas

Maple Leafs · 06-28-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Toronto have you lost your mind?

Toronto's GM has no mind. The guy is in over his head big time.

Fouts · 06-28-2005, 07:19 PM

Spike Lee likes the pick.

jbmagic · 06-28-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacersfan46

For what?

The Lakers need a PG that can get the ball to the scorers on that roster. One that can shoot from long range as well.

Not another SG. You already have Kobe ....

no one is sure what postion Green will play.

but rumors is what the lakers want.

Fouts · 06-28-2005, 07:20 PM

Warriors need a big guy.

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

no one is sure what postion Green will play.

but rumors is what the lakers want.

The potential spots he could play are SG, and SF.

Pg isn't even an option. You have Odom, Butler, and Kobe ... those 2 positions are covered well. PG, and center however .....

kingfc22 · 06-28-2005, 07:23 PM

Ike Diogu would be an interesting pick here for the Warriors, IMO.

Schmidty · 06-28-2005, 07:25 PM

Villanueva?????????? Um........wow.

kingfc22 · 06-28-2005, 07:25 PM

Wooo! Called that one.

Fouts · 06-28-2005, 07:25 PM

Nice prediction.

jbmagic · 06-28-2005, 07:25 PM

yes Lakers will get a good player at #10 now.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacersfan46

Wow, that's early for Felton. I think they could have taken Green, and then moved up from #13 to get Felton.

I just don't know if I like that. I'm disappointed in the Bobcats. You're going to suck for a while, it's unavoidable. Why not take Green, and hope you got a superstar?

Good call on that take Green at #5 thing.

Fouts · 06-28-2005, 07:28 PM

How about Bynum to the Lakers?

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

How about Bynum to the Lakers?

I can't see why they would do that. Not that they won't. But they have to get someone that can help them this year. I would pick Grainger and work a trade

Fouts · 06-28-2005, 07:31 PM

Muahahahaah

Ryche · 06-28-2005, 07:32 PM

There goes my Diogu

Pacersfan46 · 06-28-2005, 07:32 PM

Green is somewhere singing a Tom Petty song ....

Cuz I'm Freeeeeee .... FREEEEE FALLLLLIN ......

ISiddiqui · 06-28-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

How about Bynum to the Lakers?

Good call.

Fouts · 06-28-2005, 07:33 PM

Ok, who's calling the next one? Magic up.

kurtism · 06-28-2005, 07:35 PM

heh, on ESPN's DraftCast, Charlie Villanueva just announced that he was going to "work hard to try and put Toronto on the map."

Schmidty · 06-28-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kurtism

heh, on ESPN's DraftCast, Charlie Villanueva just announced that he was going to "work hard to try and put Toronto on the map."

Good for him. Canada needs all the help it can get.

miami_fan · 06-28-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Ok, who's calling the next one? Magic up.

I think that Green gets taken by the Magic. No 3 to speak of

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2005, 07:38 PM

Holy shit. The Bobcats could get Green at 13.

06-28-2005, 06:38 PM	#62
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Pacersfan - if Marvin is the pick, I think that's far from the strangest trade rumor I've ever seen. Only 2 of the 4 small forwards really belong on the floor at the same time & Atlanta ain't exactly in the position of worrying about their 10 deep rotation right now. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-28-2005, 06:56 PM	#65
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Shit. Utah's idiotic decision got my hopes up that New Orleans would somehow pass on Paul. Do the Bobcats go with Felton or Gerald Green? __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now." Last edited by ThunderingHERD : 06-28-2005 at 06:56 PM.

06-28-2005, 07:00 PM	#68
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Alright. Now let's see May drop to 13. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-28-2005, 07:03 PM	#70
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Early for Felton? There's no doubt in my mind that he'll have a better career than Deron Williams. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-28-2005, 07:07 PM	#72
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Webster over Green? __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-28-2005, 01:27 PM	#52
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	Wow. Williams over Paul would be shocking to me.

06-28-2005, 03:35 PM	#56
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	ping: anyone who wants to take Paul Pierce off our goddamn hands for oh say...two future 1st rounders?

06-28-2005, 06:28 PM	#59
Pacersfan46 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Wow, I wasn't that excited until I got home and saw ESPN's border on the screen saying "Milwaukee" is up, and "ATL Next". Eeeee. Go Pacers!

06-28-2005, 06:35 PM	#61
Pacersfan46 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	I heard a strange rumor that the Pacers trade for Al Harrington back from Atlanta for a 2nd rounder, and a couple of our lesser players. Of course, I won't believe it until I see it.

06-28-2005, 06:50 PM	#63
Pacersfan46 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Oh, I understand Atlanta wanting to get rid of him, but what about him wanting to come back to Indiana? He left because he wanted out of here last year. Would he really be able to accept being a bench player to stay here ... again? I'm not so sure.

06-28-2005, 06:53 PM	#64
Pacersfan46 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	DAMN! I wanted to see Chris Paul in Charlotte. Oh well, they'll probably take Gerald Green now.

06-28-2005, 07:08 PM	#73
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	i hope Green falls to the Lakers #10 pick

06-28-2005, 07:13 PM	#74
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Whoa...Charlie is not THAT good. Warriors have a chance at Frye now. Woot! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 06-28-2005 at 07:13 PM.

06-28-2005, 07:14 PM	#75
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Toronto have you lost your mind?

06-28-2005, 07:19 PM	#80
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Spike Lee likes the pick.

06-28-2005, 07:20 PM	#82
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Warriors need a big guy.

06-28-2005, 07:23 PM	#84
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Ike Diogu would be an interesting pick here for the Warriors, IMO. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-28-2005, 07:25 PM	#85
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Villanueva?????????? Um........wow. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

06-28-2005, 07:25 PM	#86
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Wooo! Called that one. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-28-2005, 07:28 PM	#90
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	How about Bynum to the Lakers?

06-28-2005, 07:31 PM	#92
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Muahahahaah

06-28-2005, 07:32 PM	#93
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	There goes my Diogu __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

06-28-2005, 07:33 PM	#96
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ok, who's calling the next one? Magic up.

06-28-2005, 07:35 PM	#97
kurtism High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Noblesville	heh, on ESPN's DraftCast, Charlie Villanueva just announced that he was going to "work hard to try and put Toronto on the map."

06-28-2005, 07:38 PM	#100
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Holy shit. The Bobcats could get Green at 13. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

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