01-13-2005, 03:42 AM | #51 | ||
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I wasn't knocking your opinion Tigercat. I recognize that the movie probably doesn't age well but at the time it did make sense and it was thought provoking and it wasn't done simply for shocks sake. That's what I was getting at, not saying anything bad about your opinion just maybe giving you some ideas about why people liked it so much. Also, to add to it, there was more shocking stuff on tv in those days. There was graphic footage of death and carnage in vietnam. There were riots in our cities. There were SLA bombings and the weathermen and Kent State and lets not even talk about Alabama and the deep south. The country was screwed up and we don't really dwell on it anymore but it was a rough time but the Kumbaya crowd was out in force and it was a big dope inspired lovefest which really wasn't based in reality. Can you blame somebody for reflecting what was happening in the real world and making a statement about it?
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01-13-2005, 06:56 AM | #53 | |
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01-13-2005, 11:20 AM | #54 | |
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I just think a big part of driving home the points of the movie has to come by overwhelming you with horror of certain deplorable actions. For some reason thats just a direction that doesn't appeal to me. Maybe because I am too senitmental when it comes to people? Admitedly, I also had some bad experiences with the movie, like being caught watching parts of it with a friend who had been sexually assaulted. Although I don't think it would be my bag even without that experience. Big Kubrick fan on everything else though. |
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01-13-2005, 11:37 AM | #55 |
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Interestingly enough, Anthony Burgess said in an interview that he hated the Kubrick adaptation. Apparently, the American version of the book (which Kubrick based the movie) left out the final chapter, where Alex is an adult regretting his past. Haven't read the thing so I can't really comment on it--but it allegedly makes Alex more redeeming, and is supposed to pack more of an ironic punch: the government attempt to modify Alex's behavior is ultimately useless, since Alex ends up feeling regret of his own free will (not a by-product of simple aversion response)...
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01-13-2005, 11:52 AM | #56 | |
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01-13-2005, 12:07 PM | #57 | |
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01-13-2005, 12:10 PM | #58 | |
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01-13-2005, 12:30 PM | #59 | |
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No I saw the misted version. Have it on tape in fact. Have never gotten to the end. I am an avid fan of MST3K but they weren't enough with this movie. All I could even think to say is, 'why'. Horrid in every possible way. Nothing redeeming about it. Ironically Kiss of the Spider Woman is the only movie I've ever walked out of in a theater. I didn't intend to. I got up to go to the bathroom and two elderly ladies were in front of me. One said to the other 'I can't believe we were sitting here watching this crap.' I agreed so I snuck into Invasion USA instead. Now, this was also crap but in a way I could handle and I still like the movie, mainly because of when I saw it. KotSW will make you appreciate any movie you see right after it. I'm not going to try this experiment with RZC though. My head might explode. Basically that's why I put them on this list. They are the only two movies I've seen that I didn't watch all the way. That should count for something.
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01-13-2005, 12:39 PM | #61 | |
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I can appreciate that. Like I said, I don't think that was his intention but it seems like it now. There was far worse violence shown every night on tv with the war footage. I also think it was visionary. Some of the things Alex did pale in comparison to some of the news stories we read lately. I do want to warn you, don't EVER see the movie Irreversable. There are a couple of scenes in that one that would make A Clockwork Orange look like It's a Wonderful Life. A couple of scenes almost shocked even me and I will honestly say that those scenes were two of the most disturbing things I've ever seen on film. If anybody reading can handle that sort of thing and like offbeat dark indie pics you might want to give it a rent. I warned you though.
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I'd like to add a new category.
Best cinematography in a movie. The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover. Saving Private Ryan Dances With Wolves Field of Dreams
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For all its plot problems and such, AI had tremendous cinematography. Really cool perspectives, uses of mirrored surfaces, etc SI
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01-13-2005, 02:46 PM | #64 | |
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01-13-2005, 02:48 PM | #65 |
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I loved and still love Hudson Hawk. And i'm not ashamed to admit it.
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01-13-2005, 05:13 PM | #66 | |
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Dances with Wolves all the way. You can just feel the west in its cinematography and score. Others i like: Legends of the Fall Solaris(Clooney version) Lord of the Rings Road to Perdition |
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