NFL Week 5 - Page 2

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-08-2009, 08:19 AM

The link that says "GET OUTTA HERE" links to AFF, at least that's what it shows when you hover over it.

Samdari · 10-08-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Sorry if I offended but you are right it is an"official" holiday that no companies follow at least know that I have ever worked for. Sorry, but it is just not a real holiday that people think of anymore and I think it should be gotten rid of. Plus, the Vikings discovered North America way before Columbus.

That will be crushing news to the millions of federal employees (plus post office workers) who get it off. And, pretty much everyone in the Washington DC area.

Sun Tzu · 10-08-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

The link that says "GET OUTTA HERE" links to AFF, at least that's what it shows when you hover over it.

Got it. Well...to whoever that wound up happening to, my sincerest apologies. I dunno how this has gone unnoticed where I work over the last...criminy...couple years.

Sun Tzu · 10-08-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Plus, the Vikings discovered North America way before Columbus.

Seriously people, I thought we were going to end the unnecesary Vikings love in last weeks thread. This is just getting out of hand.

RomaGoth · 10-08-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Seriously people, I thought we were going to end the unnecesary Vikings love in last weeks thread. This is just getting out of hand.

It's the damn Capital One commercials. Will they never end????

Logan · 10-08-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Sorry if I offended but you are right it is an"official" holiday that no companies follow at least know that I have ever worked for. Sorry, but it is just not a real holiday that people think of anymore and I think it should be gotten rid of. Plus, the Vikings discovered North America way before Columbus.

All of my friends in various industries across NYC either get the day off, or its part of a rolling holiday with Veteran's Day (half the staff takes one, the other half get the other) similar to MLK/President's Day.

cougarfreak · 10-08-2009, 09:00 AM

I'll be happy if the Bengals stay within 7 of the Ravens this week. In an interesting turn of events, the Ravens have outscored the Bengal offense to this point, and the Bengals have allowed fewer points than the Ravens D. That's a switch.

TroyF · 10-08-2009, 09:58 AM

This is one of the worst slates of game this year. Look at this steaming pile:

Oakland @ NYG - Ummm, yeah. That should be good for 15 minutes.
Cleveland @ Buffalo - Two teams who are already out of playoff contention in week 5, woo hoo.
Dallas @ KC - Tony should have a field day here.
Minnesota @ Stl - All day should be needed for all of the first quarter.
TB @ Philly - Another NFC East team getting to pound on garbage.
Pitt @ Detroit - Lions are fiesty. Steelers can actually play.
Washington @ Carolina - Campbell vs. Dehlomme. Wow.
Jax @ Seattle - Garrard vs. Seneca Wallace. This is just awesome.
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Now for the games that actually look decent for various reasons:

Cincy @ Baltimore - We find out how serious the Bengals are here. Don't need a win but they do need a good showing.

Atlanta @ SF - I think the Falcons need to open up the playbook and go deep more. If they try the conservative garbage they tried against the Pats, they'll get hammered here. On the other side of it, the SF offense simply must play better. They will not match their first quarter of the season win total in any other quarter if they are 31 in the league in first downs per game.

Houston @ Arizona - I put this here because if you like shootouts, there should be plenty of points here. If nothing else, this is a fantasy football players game. Slaton, Johnson, Daniels, Fitz, Boldin, Warner. . . should be fun.

NE @ Denver - Game of the week for my money. I can write the headlines for the game now: If Denver wins, everyone will say that Denver should be happy to be 5-0, but that they'll lose their next 5 games and still miss the playoffs. If Denver loses, headline will be that the Broncos returned to Earth. The NE haters will say they had another easy win and that it means nothing. The Broncos haters will assume that because Denver lost to a top 5 team and gave up 30 points to Tom Brady that the team will now implode and the season is over. (for the record, both headline would be ridiculous, and all of that said, it is a big game for both teams. The Broncos to continue to prove that they can play and for NE to get a big W on the road)

Indy @ Tennessee - OK, so this game is a dog. I just WISH it would be the game we thought we'd see at the start of the year.

NYJ @ Miami - A chance to see the Jets on national TV. This will be the first Jets game I've got a chance to see all the way through. I'm interested to see how they'll look.

TroyF · 10-08-2009, 10:13 AM

A couple of goofy stats:

The NFC East faces teams with a combined 1-14 record this week. The opposition has combined to score 197 points while giving up 392.

Biggest point differentials in the NFL - NO (+78), Denver (53), SF (49), Indy and Baltimore (44)

Biggest the other way - St. Louis (84), Cleveland (69), Carolina (50 in three games), TB (53), KC (48)

QB's with a 90+ rating - P. Manning, Brees, Favre, E. Manning, Rodgers, Ryan, Schaub, Roethlisberger, Orton, Flacco, Hill, Rivers.

QB's below 80 - Romo, Edwards, Palmer, Sanchize, Collins

QB's below 50 - JeMarcus Russell.

RomaGoth · 10-08-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

QB's below 50 - JeMarcus Russell.

LOL that he has his own category.

Samdari · 10-08-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

A couple of goofy stats:

QB's below 80 - Edwards

You seem to list QB's under 80 who are notable, or would seem to be a surprise that they are under 80. My question about this is why would anyone be surprised Edwards is under 80? Ever since moving back to a Bills centered media market (and I use that term loosely) there has been this sense the Bills have found their QB, they are fine there, etc. Everyone wants Jauron's head on a platter (not that they shouldn't) but noone seems to be calling for Edwards to be replaced. I'd want him gone just as fast.

I just don't see what anyone has ever seen in this guy to think he'd be an NFL quarterback you could build a contender around.

fantom1979 · 10-08-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

I just don't see what anyone has ever seen in this guy to think he'd be an NFL quarterback you could build a contender around.

JP Losman will make anyone look awesome

Logan · 10-08-2009, 10:38 AM

Kerry Collins is notable?

And Edwards had an 85.4 rating last year upon completing 66% of his passes at a 7.2 ypc clip. Not bad for a 2nd year QB.

TroyF · 10-08-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

You seem to list QB's under 80 who are notable, or would seem to be a surprise that they are under 80. My question about this is why would anyone be surprised Edwards is under 80? Ever since moving back to a Bills centered media market (and I use that term loosely) there has been this sense the Bills have found their QB, they are fine there, etc. Everyone wants Jauron's head on a platter (not that they shouldn't) but noone seems to be calling for Edwards to be replaced. I'd want him gone just as fast.

I just don't see what anyone has ever seen in this guy to think he'd be an NFL quarterback you could build a contender around.

I listed him for that very reason. A lot of people think he's a terrific young QB. I think he's horrible. The reasons are because of the stats posted above. The problem with those is it doesn't take into account the schedule. Edwards started 14 games. 8 of those starts were against the 10 worst pass defenses in the NFL. He started against a top 10 pass defense one time. (the Raiders, who finished right at 10th)

Football Outsiders ranked him the 24th best QB in the league last year. He ranks 30th this year.

People are going to figure out the guy can't play. The quicker Buffalo realizes that, the quicker they can start rebuilding.

I only threw Collins in there because of his team. No other real reason.

Passacaglia · 10-08-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

I listed him for that very reason. A lot of people think he's a terrific young QB. I think he's horrible. The reasons are because of the stats posted above. The problem with those is it doesn't take into account the schedule. Edwards started 14 games. 8 of those starts were against the 10 worst pass defenses in the NFL. He started against a top 10 pass defense one time. (the Raiders, who finished right at 10th)

Football Outsiders ranked him the 24th best QB in the league last year. He ranks 30th this year.

People are going to figure out the guy can't play. The quicker Buffalo realizes that, the quicker they can start rebuilding.

I only threw Collins in there because of his team. No other real reason.

That may sound bad, but on the other hand, it's really hard to throw well when you're playing against more than one defense in some of your games.

RomaGoth · 10-08-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That may sound bad, but on the other hand, it's really hard to throw well when you're playing against more than one defense in some of your games.

Well played.

Big Fo · 10-08-2009, 11:38 AM

Wins for Denver and Miami could see the Dolphins within a game of the division lead two weeks after I'd written them off.

RomaGoth · 10-08-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Wins for Denver and Miami could see the Dolphins within a game of the division lead two weeks after I'd written them off.

I think Miami will have a difficult time with that Jets defense, Henne is no Drew Brees and I think the Jets will dare him to pass and shut down the running game.

larrymcg421 · 10-08-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Wins for Denver and Miami could see the Dolphins within a game of the division lead two weeks after I'd written them off.

One win at a time. Just like they did last year. Even if they they split their next two games, they'll be in the exact same spot after 6 games as they were last season.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-08-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The Lions/Steelers game may even be a sellout. Only 1,500 tickets remaining.

The Lions game is sold out. I expect there will be a lot of black & gold in Ford Field.

Alan T · 10-11-2009, 11:57 AM

Great... my 1pm game choices are either:

Giants vs Raiders
Cowboys vs Chiefs...

Really? Why would anyone not a fan of these four teams want to watch any of these games... ugh

Eaglesfan27 · 10-11-2009, 12:08 PM

McNabb with a bomb to Maclin for a TD!!! I only wish I had started Maclin in my fantasy leagues.

Radii · 10-11-2009, 12:09 PM

DeAngelo Williams fumbles and Washington scores two plays later, how embarrassing.

Logan · 10-11-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Great... my 1pm game choices are either:

Giants vs Raiders
Cowboys vs Chiefs...

Really? Why would anyone not a fan of these four teams want to watch any of these games... ugh

I don't think anyone not a fan of any of the teams playing at 1pm today would want to be watching. Maybe Cincy-Baltimore.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-11-2009, 12:18 PM

San Francisco - Atlanta?

EDIT - Nevermind, Pacific Time Zone thing.

JS19 · 10-11-2009, 12:26 PM

Steve Smith is amazing.

Besides being a Giants fan, I'm actually looking forward to witnessing just how bad J. Russell is firsthand.

kcchief19 · 10-11-2009, 12:26 PM

Anybody here have the NFL Redzone channel? And more specifically, AT&T Uverse? My Redzone channel is black and shows the message "No programming schedule at this time." WTF????

Rizon · 10-11-2009, 12:27 PM

Raiders ... lmao

JS19 · 10-11-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Raiders ... lmao

I love how disgusted Gumbel sounded after Bradshaw scored. "It's not often you break a 20 yd TD run and go untouched, and not only untouched, but I don't think there was a Raider within 5 feet of touching him".

Bad-example · 10-11-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Anybody here have the NFL Redzone channel? And more specifically, AT&T Uverse? My Redzone channel is black and shows the message "No programming schedule at this time." WTF????

+1

Only have the HD feed listed but it is just a black screen and has been since the season started. Guessing they just haven't ironed out the money issues.

Rizon · 10-11-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

I love how disgusted Gumbel sounded after Bradshaw scored. "It's not often you break a 20 yd TD run and go untouched, and not only untouched, but I don't think there was a Raider within 5 feet of touching him".

Lost the feed here, so I can't see how bad they are, but I can hear it

bulletsponge · 10-11-2009, 12:40 PM

wow, the Boys are looking like shit

JPhillips · 10-11-2009, 12:40 PM

Being stuck with these crappy Giants games week after week is almost enough to get me to give up on the NFL.

hoopsguy · 10-11-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Great... my 1pm game choices are either:

Giants vs Raiders
Cowboys vs Chiefs...

Really? Why would anyone not a fan of these four teams want to watch any of these games... ugh

I'll see your games as raise you ...

Vikings @ Rams
Steelers @ Lions

Rizon · 10-11-2009, 12:41 PM

Woot, feed came back up as the Giants go up 21-0 on Jokeland.

JPhillips · 10-11-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll see your games as raise you ...

Vikings @ Rams
Steelers @ Lions

And I'll raise

Raiders @ Giants

and nothing else.

kcchief19 · 10-11-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

+1

Only have the HD feed listed but it is just a black screen and has been since the season started. Guessing they just haven't ironed out the money issues.

Yeah, they only carry the HD feed but if you're subscribed to the HD Premium tier you get NFL Redzone. I signed up for that specifically to get NFL Redzone and have had it all season, now today it's blank. Want my money back!

Pumpy Tudors · 10-11-2009, 12:48 PM

I love NFL Red Zone. I just got to see the Rams get down to Minnesota's 2 yard line and then fumble it away. The Rams are hilarious.

larrymcg421 · 10-11-2009, 12:50 PM

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J. Russell sacked by T. Thomas. J. Russell fumbled. J. Tuck recovered fumble

LOL, who needs to actually watch the game. It's just as fun to watch the play by play.

cmp · 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM

These roughing the passer calls are horrible.

Greyroofoo · 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM

How can the raider's be this bad?

Rizon · 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM

Faiders down 28-0 ... not even halfway through the 2nd ...

Rizon · 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

How can the raider's be this bad?

When your best player is the punter.

larrymcg421 · 10-11-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

When your best player is the punter.

Maybe they will start punting on first down.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-11-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

How can the raider's be this bad?

Wasting first round draft picks are usually a part of the equation.

Radii · 10-11-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Being stuck with these crappy Giants games week after week is almost enough to get me to give up on the NFL.

I wonder if a team has ever started with a schedule this embarrassingly easy... Washington, Dallas, Tampa, Kansas City, Oakland.

Dallas isn't awful but the other four? What a gift to the Giants to start the season.

JS19 · 10-11-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

LOL, who needs to actually watch the game. It's just as fun to watch the play by play.

It wasn't even a blindside type hit. Thomas came straight at him and Russell just dangled the ball right out there.

larrymcg421 · 10-11-2009, 12:56 PM

How long until we see David Carr?

Greyroofoo · 10-11-2009, 12:57 PM

What should I watch, Giants and that Al Davis team or a TV edited Chucky movie.

And I'm not referring to Jon Gruden.

Radii · 10-11-2009, 01:03 PM

Carolina gets the ball down to the Redskins 3, runs 4 times and can't score, but pin the skins inside the 1 and get a Safety. 7-2 redskins, both of these teams are proving to be terrible though.

10-08-2009, 10:38 AM	#63
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Kerry Collins is notable? And Edwards had an 85.4 rating last year upon completing 66% of his passes at a 7.2 ypc clip. Not bad for a 2nd year QB. Last edited by Logan : 10-08-2009 at 10:40 AM.

10-11-2009, 11:57 AM	#71
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10-11-2009, 12:08 PM	#72
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10-11-2009, 12:18 PM	#75
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	San Francisco - Atlanta? EDIT - Nevermind, Pacific Time Zone thing. Last edited by Vince, Pt. II : 10-11-2009 at 12:19 PM.

10-11-2009, 12:40 PM	#83
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10-08-2009, 09:00 AM	#57
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	I'll be happy if the Bengals stay within 7 of the Ravens this week. In an interesting turn of events, the Ravens have outscored the Bengal offense to this point, and the Bengals have allowed fewer points than the Ravens D. That's a switch.

10-08-2009, 09:58 AM	#58
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	This is one of the worst slates of game this year. Look at this steaming pile: Oakland @ NYG - Ummm, yeah. That should be good for 15 minutes. Cleveland @ Buffalo - Two teams who are already out of playoff contention in week 5, woo hoo. Dallas @ KC - Tony should have a field day here. Minnesota @ Stl - All day should be needed for all of the first quarter. TB @ Philly - Another NFC East team getting to pound on garbage. Pitt @ Detroit - Lions are fiesty. Steelers can actually play. Washington @ Carolina - Campbell vs. Dehlomme. Wow. Jax @ Seattle - Garrard vs. Seneca Wallace. This is just awesome. -------------------------------------------------------- Now for the games that actually look decent for various reasons: Cincy @ Baltimore - We find out how serious the Bengals are here. Don't need a win but they do need a good showing. Atlanta @ SF - I think the Falcons need to open up the playbook and go deep more. If they try the conservative garbage they tried against the Pats, they'll get hammered here. On the other side of it, the SF offense simply must play better. They will not match their first quarter of the season win total in any other quarter if they are 31 in the league in first downs per game. Houston @ Arizona - I put this here because if you like shootouts, there should be plenty of points here. If nothing else, this is a fantasy football players game. Slaton, Johnson, Daniels, Fitz, Boldin, Warner. . . should be fun. NE @ Denver - Game of the week for my money. I can write the headlines for the game now: If Denver wins, everyone will say that Denver should be happy to be 5-0, but that they'll lose their next 5 games and still miss the playoffs. If Denver loses, headline will be that the Broncos returned to Earth. The NE haters will say they had another easy win and that it means nothing. The Broncos haters will assume that because Denver lost to a top 5 team and gave up 30 points to Tom Brady that the team will now implode and the season is over. (for the record, both headline would be ridiculous, and all of that said, it is a big game for both teams. The Broncos to continue to prove that they can play and for NE to get a big W on the road) Indy @ Tennessee - OK, so this game is a dog. I just WISH it would be the game we thought we'd see at the start of the year. NYJ @ Miami - A chance to see the Jets on national TV. This will be the first Jets game I've got a chance to see all the way through. I'm interested to see how they'll look.

10-08-2009, 10:13 AM	#59
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	A couple of goofy stats: The NFC East faces teams with a combined 1-14 record this week. The opposition has combined to score 197 points while giving up 392. Biggest point differentials in the NFL - NO (+78), Denver (53), SF (49), Indy and Baltimore (44) Biggest the other way - St. Louis (84), Cleveland (69), Carolina (50 in three games), TB (53), KC (48) QB's with a 90+ rating - P. Manning, Brees, Favre, E. Manning, Rodgers, Ryan, Schaub, Roethlisberger, Orton, Flacco, Hill, Rivers. QB's below 80 - Romo, Edwards, Palmer, Sanchize, Collins QB's below 50 - JeMarcus Russell.

10-08-2009, 11:38 AM	#67
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Wins for Denver and Miami could see the Dolphins within a game of the division lead two weeks after I'd written them off.

10-11-2009, 12:09 PM	#73
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	DeAngelo Williams fumbles and Washington scores two plays later, how embarrassing.

10-11-2009, 12:26 PM	#76
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Steve Smith is amazing. Besides being a Giants fan, I'm actually looking forward to witnessing just how bad J. Russell is firsthand.

10-11-2009, 12:26 PM	#77
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Anybody here have the NFL Redzone channel? And more specifically, AT&T Uverse? My Redzone channel is black and shows the message "No programming schedule at this time." WTF????

10-11-2009, 12:27 PM	#78
Rizon Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Oakland, CA	Raiders ... lmao

10-11-2009, 12:40 PM	#82
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	wow, the Boys are looking like shit

10-11-2009, 12:41 PM	#85
Rizon Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Oakland, CA	Woot, feed came back up as the Giants go up 21-0 on Jokeland.

10-11-2009, 12:48 PM	#88
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10-11-2009, 12:51 PM	#90
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	These roughing the passer calls are horrible.

10-11-2009, 12:51 PM	#91
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	How can the raider's be this bad?

10-11-2009, 12:56 PM	#98
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10-11-2009, 12:57 PM	#99
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	What should I watch, Giants and that Al Davis team or a TV edited Chucky movie. And I'm not referring to Jon Gruden. Last edited by Greyroofoo : 10-11-2009 at 12:57 PM.

10-11-2009, 01:03 PM	#100
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Carolina gets the ball down to the Redskins 3, runs 4 times and can't score, but pin the skins inside the 1 and get a Safety. 7-2 redskins, both of these teams are proving to be terrible though. Last edited by Radii : 10-11-2009 at 02:08 PM.

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