2K sports announces All-Pro Football 2K8 for summer release - Page 2

RedKingGold · 04-11-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

A guy over at OS is the first to get the May edition of Game Informer which has a 5 page preview of the game. You can read his posts over there, but some of the highlights and lowlights of what he has posted so far:

Lowlights:

- Player graphic models don't look next gen, although they note this was an early version of the game and that it would be improved before release.

- No ability to replicate the NFL or NFL Players which seems to indicate limited or no customization?

Highlights:

Greatly improved animation system.

Completely revamped running game.

Greatly improved O-Line/D-Line interaction.

Many more animations for different situations that occur in a game such as a QB running and being hit as he is throwing.

Very lively stadiums that are well done.

Revamped player rating system.

I'm a bit bummed out that there is a lack of customization, but if this game has any sort of decent franchise mode, I'll be purchasing this on release day.

Can you post a linky?

Mo.Raider · 04-11-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, I'd venture to say that .01% of people who would buy a console football game give a shit about the USFL or it's license. Perhaps a football RPG could be cool with the license. It would just be a waste of money to use it in a game when you could just make up team names and be in the same boat.

I see a lot of the under 30 crowd wearing a lot of throw back jerseys, and those are way past their narrow view. The over 30 crowd has been buying and playing football games for quite a while. I see a lot of websites devoted to the old USFL and many of their games are broadcast on ESPN classic. Just a thought.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-11-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Can you post a linky?

Here you go:

hxxp://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=203806

The thread has exploded over there, but the first post has the most information. The point that has been raised over there, is that we don't know if there is "no customization." The article just says that it will be impossible to recreate the NFL.

RedKingGold · 04-11-2007, 11:00 AM

It appears that the article simply said that there would be no customization for online mode. There is nothing said in the article about whether you can customize teams/players in off-line mode.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-11-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

It appears that the article simply said that there would be no customization for online mode. There is nothing said in the article about whether you can customize teams/players in off-line mode.

That makes a lot more sense. I can't see them releasing a generic game without some form of customization to make your own NFL league.

DanGarion · 04-11-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

It appears that the article simply said that there would be no customization for online mode. There is nothing said in the article about whether you can customize teams/players in off-line mode.

That makes a lot more sense.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-11-2007, 03:57 PM

The guy who has the article already (a mod over there proved it) just said that NFL legends will be in the game. No details have been released yet, but the one screen shot they've shown looks a bit like Rice vs Deion Sanders.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-12-2007, 08:33 AM

I'm going to go buy the magazine for myself when it comes out in a week or so, but the original poster on OS is now mentioning something he read in the article that he "forgot to mention" - he claims the article says there is no franchise mode.

I could deal with no customization and generic teams, but if there is no franchise mode this game becomes a non-buy for me. I can't believe 2ksports would be stupid enough to not include a franchise mode.

wade moore · 04-12-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm going to go buy the magazine for myself when it comes out in a week or so, but the original poster on OS is now mentioning something he read in the article that he "forgot to mention" - he claims the article says there is no franchise mode.

I could deal with no customization and generic teams, but if there is no franchise mode this game becomes a non-buy for me. I can't believe 2ksports would be stupid enough to not include a franchise mode.

What is this game with no franchise mode? A season sim of fake players and teams?

Wow. that would be a disasterous decision unless they're putting it out for like $15 and using it as a building step to franchise next year.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-12-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

What is this game with no franchise mode? A season sim of fake players and teams?

Wow. that would be a disasterous decision unless they're putting it out for like $15 and using it as a building step to franchise next year.

IF they truly did that, my suspicion would be is that they focused on making it a great online experience. That still would be a no buy for me, unless it is very cheap.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-12-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

IF they truly did that, my suspicion would be is that they focused on making it a great online experience. That still would be a no buy for me, unless it is very cheap.

Online focus = bad. Good single-player experience = good.

To some extent, I think developers are using online play as a crutch so they don't have to do as much work on the AI. They just let the players do the work for them. I'm not too happy with that.

Kodos · 04-12-2007, 09:04 AM

No franchise mode = no buy for Kodos. The lack of customization is bad enough...

sabotai · 04-12-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm going to go buy the magazine for myself when it comes out in a week or so, but the original poster on OS is now mentioning something he read in the article that he "forgot to mention" - he claims the article says there is no franchise mode.

I could deal with no customization and generic teams, but if there is no franchise mode this game becomes a non-buy for me. I can't believe 2ksports would be stupid enough to not include a franchise mode.

I can't honestly believe that a sports game would not have a franchise mode. I doubt 2K sports would be that stupid. The only thing I can think of is that the article might have said something along the lines that the build they play-tested didn't have franchise mode available, and thus they couldn't comment on it, and the guy misread it or something. There's no way they would make a game without franchise mode.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-12-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

There's no way they would make a game without franchise mode.

Agreed. They already had a franchise engine built that they could just move over to the next game. They built their reputation by playing the 'We're not EA' card. I sincerely doubt they'd cut features from the next gen game. They've had 2 years to get it all pieced together.

Pumpy Tudors · 04-12-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Agreed. They already had a franchise engine built that they could just move over to the next game. They built their reputation by playing the 'We're not EA' card. I sincerely doubt they'd cut features from the next gen game. They've had 2 years to get it all pieced together.

Well, hey, if there's no franchise mode, we know they're really not EA. Flawed as it may be, at least EA includes a franchise mode.

sabotai · 04-12-2007, 05:15 PM

Apparently the quote from the article is : "Although the developer wouldnt go into detail about the games league structure, we know that there WON'T be a franchise mode"

So, either G.I. got it wrong or 2K Sports made the dumbest decision they possibly could have. (EDIT: Or the person who posted the quote is lying.)

WVUFAN · 04-12-2007, 05:24 PM

Is it just me, or are the people over in the 2kSports forum a bunch of bitch-ass complainers?

G.I. posts info on the magazine article over in OS, then gets asked to come over to the 2ksports section, and promptly gets called a liar because he hasn't shown "proof" of the article, so he posts .gifs with his camera phones of the articles, then gets bitched at because they can't read the article from the quick shots.

Maybe I'm used to the relative maturity of this board, but good lord people are idiots.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-12-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Is it just me, or are the people over in the 2kSports forum a bunch of bitch-ass complainers?

G.I. posts info on the magazine article over in OS, then gets asked to come over to the 2ksports section, and promptly gets called a liar because he hasn't shown "proof" of the article, so he posts .gifs with his camera phones of the articles, then gets bitched at because they can't read the article from the quick shots.

Maybe I'm used to the relative maturity of this board, but good lord people are idiots.

I rarely go over there (but have today) and I've found the level of maturity (or lack thereof) surprising.

I just hope the poster got that info wrong. The magazine is due to hit shelves in 5 days, and will probably be the first game review magazine I've bought in a few years.

Edit: I assume you are talking about the 2ksports forum and not OS.. at least that is what I'm talking about.

WVUFAN · 04-12-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I rarely go over there (but have today) and I've found the level of maturity (or lack thereof) surprising.

I just hope the poster got that info wrong. The magazine is due to hit shelves in 5 days, and will probably be the first game review magazine I've bought in a few years.

Edit: I assume you are talking about the 2ksports forum and not OS.. at least that is what I'm talking about.

Yeah, I was talking about 2ksports forum. Operation Sports is ok in my book.

For what it's worth, I agree, I hope the info is wrong, specifically the info on franchise mode.

sabotai · 04-12-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Maybe I'm used to the relative maturity of this board, but good lord people are idiots.

With the exception of the official boards for sport sim developers, and other indie-style game developer's forums, I stay away from pretty much all "official" forums. Big game companies, sports teams, etc. They are filled with two things, fanboys and haters. I know those two terms get thrown around a lot, especially here in certain threads, but no two words can better explain the people you run into on a sport team's forums, or on EA's forums, etc. I don't go to those kinds of forums anymore.

WVUFAN · 04-12-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

With the exception of the official boards for sport sim developers, and other indie-style game developer's forums, I stay away from pretty much all "official" forums. Big game companies, sports teams, etc. They are filled with two things, fanboys and haters. I know those two tersm get thrown around a lot, especially here in certain threads, but no two words can better explain the people you run into on a sport team's forums, or on EA's forums, etc. I don't go to those kinds of forums anymore.

Good advice, sabotai.

WVUFAN · 04-12-2007, 09:33 PM

dola --

Someone else got the mag in the mail and posted higher rez pictures. He reiterrated the fact that the article specifically stated that there is no franchise mode in the game.

Groundhog · 04-12-2007, 10:09 PM

The only other games I've played from 2K sports are NBA 2K6 & NBA 2K7. Both play an excellent game of basketball, but leave a lot to be desired in franchise mode. Leaving it out of their football game however is very surprising - especially given that it's fake rosters. Who wants to play one-off games with fake rosters?

Kodos · 04-12-2007, 11:03 PM

That really is hard to understand. At worst, just slap in the franchise mode from 2k5...

gstelmack · 04-13-2007, 09:44 AM

Honestly, given my time I don't think I've ever completed more than a season-and-a-half in any console game franchise mode. If it's got in-game saves and lets me play a whole season, I'll buy it, if only to lodge my protest against the EA juggernaut / monopoly. I loved 2k5's gameplay.

Calis · 04-13-2007, 09:51 AM

Very odd to hear about franchise. That's dissapointing.

That being said it's still almost certainly a buy for me. 2k5 still gets played on a regular basis at my home anytime we want a football fix. I'll buy it just to support them. I'm guessing though that not many other people will, could be rough.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-13-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I'll buy it, if only to lodge my protest against the EA juggernaut / monopoly. I loved 2k5's gameplay.

I'm disappointed in the lack of franchise mode, but I may buy it for this reason as well. Also, I'm guessing if there isn't a "franchise" mode, there might be some kind of story mode that covers multiple years. With good realistic game play and 11 on 11 football, that could be fun.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-13-2007, 10:36 AM

Dola -

Blue Lightning who is the main mod on 2ksports Forum has had these comments which are relevant to franchise mode:

hxxp://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115824&page=3

As for playing 2K-2K5 and the franchise feature that was in (if I recall correctly) 2K2-2K5... yes, that is a very fun feature, and one 2K Sports views as very important in all its sports games.

I cannot speak as to the inclusion of a franchise mode, but I can tell you that 2K Sports views a franchise mode as a key inclusion in every simulation sports game. 2K Sports will also not be releasing a "half-baked" game in APF 2K8

Ya' know, you ever think that maybe, just maybe, we might have something bigger in store???

jaygr · 04-13-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I cannot speak as to the inclusion of a franchise mode, but I can tell you that 2K Sports views a franchise mode as a key inclusion in every simulation sports game. 2K Sports will also not be releasing a "half-baked" game in APF 2K8

Ya' know, you ever think that maybe, just maybe, we might have something bigger in store???

I hate when they get all hinty and secretive like that, because it usually turns out being something that isn't all that great anyway. So what is bigger then franchise mode? That usually entails total control over your team. What else is there? Being commish of the whole league? I don't know if I would want that. I guess what I am saying is that off the top of my head I can't think of what would take the place of a franchise mode and be "bigger" and better.

BrianD · 04-13-2007, 10:48 AM

I would be pretty happy with just a full season mode since I never take the same team into a second season. I'm curious about the "something bigger" though. That something bigger might grab me better than a franchise mode would.

Kodos · 04-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Online leagues?

illinifan999 · 04-13-2007, 11:08 AM

Pacman Jones mode

You take a player off the field and the game turns into GTA

RedKingGold · 04-13-2007, 11:12 AM

Well, after the buggy mess that was their baseball game for 360, I'm not really holding my breath for this "big breakthrough"

wade moore · 04-13-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Online leagues?

*drool*

gstelmack · 04-13-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

*drool*

After the fiasco that was the FOFC ESPN NFL 2k5 online season, no thanks. What did that last, 3 weeks before people stopped answering the requests to play their games?

Eaglesfan27 · 04-13-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

After the fiasco that was the FOFC ESPN NFL 2k5 online season, no thanks. What did that last, 3 weeks before people stopped answering the requests to play their games?

Yeah, there are plenty of good people on here, but it is hard to sync up all of our schedules. That is why I'll be unhappy if they have decided to make MP a major focus of this game at the expense of SP.

Kodos · 04-13-2007, 01:06 PM

Online leagues just don't work. People who are losing a lot lose interest, and schedules are hard to synch up. The FML and the Madden tournaments I used to run demonstrated it all too well. It is way more frustration than it is worth. Unless you are able to play against the computer when your opponent fails to show by a certain time.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-13-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Online leagues just don't work. People who are losing a lot lose interest, and schedules are hard to synch up. The FML and the Madden tournaments I used to run demonstrated it all too well. It is way more frustration than it is worth. Unless you are able to play against the computer when your opponent fails to show by a certain time.

I didn't play online leagues with the previous game. Is there no way to have the CPU control some of the teams? Good example of that was the old Super Tecmo Bowl where you could flag teams as either a player or CPU.

Kodos · 04-13-2007, 02:57 PM

The FML was a Madden league where we did the scheduling out of game and then compiled standings by hand. My main point was people suck, and can't be relied on to play their games, especially if they aren't doing well. I've never played 2K's online leagues.

SteveMax58 · 04-13-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jaygr

... So what is bigger then franchise mode?...

Customizeable beer tents??

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-17-2007, 12:28 PM

Here's Bill Harris' take on the interview in Game Informer magazine. Not looking too good. This one is starting to tumble off the hype wagon for me.......

http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...tball-2k8.html

sabotai · 04-17-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Here's Bill Harris' take on the interview in Game Informer magazine. Not looking too good. This one is starting to tumble off the hype wagon for me.......

http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...tball-2k8.html

"but it's hard to have faith in a game where people were apparently high when they decided the feature set."

Pretty much sums my feelings up as well. It may turn out to be a misunderstanding on what a "franchise mode" specifically is, it may be that 2K is intentially playing a semantics game and will have some kind of 'franchise mode' and just call it something else....or it may be there is no franchise mode at all.

Whatever the situation may be, it certainly seems like this article, which is really supposed to be an 'infomercial' for the game, had the opposite effect that 2K would have liked.

So far, it's looking like Madden again... *sigh*

Deattribution · 04-17-2007, 12:43 PM

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The obvious question is does that mean you won't be able to edit player names and ratings, but of course that question isn't asked. Here's what
Jeff had to say about that:
There's going to be a backlash, I know that. And you know what? Play the game and shut up."

Great PR there

Whoever from 2k who thought doing this article was a good idea should be fired.

wade moore · 04-17-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deattribution

Great PR there

Whoever from 2k who thought doing this article was a good idea should be fired.

Yeah, but EA is Evil - love those guys from 2k!!!

TazFTW · 04-17-2007, 02:17 PM

[Madden]This is the Brett Favre of sports video game blunders.[/Madden]

Kodos · 04-18-2007, 09:05 AM

They certainly seem to be making the worst out of what was initially a positive development (competition for EA).

Eaglesfan27 · 04-18-2007, 04:10 PM

Through their forum mods, they have seemed to indicate some regret about how badly that interview was "misrepresented." Hopefully, this was just a bad PR blunder and not a sign of things to come. However, my optimism regarding this game is certainly less in the last week than it has been in the last few months.

SteveMax58 · 04-18-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Through their forum mods, they have seemed to indicate some regret about how badly that interview was "misrepresented." Hopefully, this was just a bad PR blunder and not a sign of things to come. However, my optimism regarding this game is certainly less in the last week than it has been in the last few months.

Yeah...I've been checking out their forums for a few months as well, and I can't understand why they would stand to gain any advantage by not squashing rumors of not having a franchise mode.

I've read a few possible explanations(from members) on their boards about trying to surprise EA & the like...but the lack of information on the feature set, even if only semi-complete at this point, for a game which does not feature NFL rosters seems counter-productive to their cause.

I'd rather have a swarm of hype around my game over an indifferent calm which has already written it off. It isn't necessarily the case across the board, but I would think any effect would be enough to try & squash the rumors, if untrue. But maybe they really aren't far enough along to even speculate.

sabotai · 04-18-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Through their forum mods, they have seemed to indicate some regret about how badly that interview was "misrepresented." Hopefully, this was just a bad PR blunder and not a sign of things to come. However, my optimism regarding this game is certainly less in the last week than it has been in the last few months.

These guys have done these preview interviews enouth that they should know that they need to choose their words very carefully. Sloppiness with regards to any part of their business is not a good sign.

They thought they were going to get good hype for an upcoming game, what they got was a PR nightmare. And their silence is only making things worse.

bob · 04-26-2007, 06:44 AM

http://www.footballresurrected.com/games/football2k8/

Their web site has been updated to include the 240 legends that are in the game. Pretty good list - Montana, Marino, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, OJ Simpson (I'm not kidding), etc.

No Deion Sanders though.

04-11-2007, 03:57 PM	#57
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	The guy who has the article already (a mod over there proved it) just said that NFL legends will be in the game. No details have been released yet, but the one screen shot they've shown looks a bit like Rice vs Deion Sanders. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

04-12-2007, 08:33 AM	#58
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'm going to go buy the magazine for myself when it comes out in a week or so, but the original poster on OS is now mentioning something he read in the article that he "forgot to mention" - he claims the article says there is no franchise mode. I could deal with no customization and generic teams, but if there is no franchise mode this game becomes a non-buy for me. I can't believe 2ksports would be stupid enough to not include a franchise mode. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

04-12-2007, 05:15 PM	#66
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Apparently the quote from the article is : "Although the developer wouldnt go into detail about the games league structure, we know that there WON'T be a franchise mode" So, either G.I. got it wrong or 2K Sports made the dumbest decision they possibly could have. (EDIT: Or the person who posted the quote is lying.) Last edited by sabotai : 04-12-2007 at 05:16 PM.

04-12-2007, 05:24 PM	#67
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	Is it just me, or are the people over in the 2kSports forum a bunch of bitch-ass complainers? G.I. posts info on the magazine article over in OS, then gets asked to come over to the 2ksports section, and promptly gets called a liar because he hasn't shown "proof" of the article, so he posts .gifs with his camera phones of the articles, then gets bitched at because they can't read the article from the quick shots. Maybe I'm used to the relative maturity of this board, but good lord people are idiots. __________________

04-12-2007, 09:33 PM	#72
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	dola -- Someone else got the mag in the mail and posted higher rez pictures. He reiterrated the fact that the article specifically stated that there is no franchise mode in the game. __________________

04-11-2007, 11:00 AM	#54
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	It appears that the article simply said that there would be no customization for online mode. There is nothing said in the article about whether you can customize teams/players in off-line mode.

04-12-2007, 09:04 AM	#62
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	No franchise mode = no buy for Kodos. The lack of customization is bad enough...

04-12-2007, 10:09 PM	#73
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	The only other games I've played from 2K sports are NBA 2K6 & NBA 2K7. Both play an excellent game of basketball, but leave a lot to be desired in franchise mode. Leaving it out of their football game however is very surprising - especially given that it's fake rosters. Who wants to play one-off games with fake rosters? __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-12-2007, 11:03 PM	#74
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	That really is hard to understand. At worst, just slap in the franchise mode from 2k5...

04-13-2007, 09:44 AM	#75
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Honestly, given my time I don't think I've ever completed more than a season-and-a-half in any console game franchise mode. If it's got in-game saves and lets me play a whole season, I'll buy it, if only to lodge my protest against the EA juggernaut / monopoly. I loved 2k5's gameplay. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

04-13-2007, 09:51 AM	#76
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Very odd to hear about franchise. That's dissapointing. That being said it's still almost certainly a buy for me. 2k5 still gets played on a regular basis at my home anytime we want a football fix. I'll buy it just to support them. I'm guessing though that not many other people will, could be rough.

04-13-2007, 10:36 AM	#78
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Blue Lightning who is the main mod on 2ksports Forum has had these comments which are relevant to franchise mode: hxxp://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115824&page=3 As for playing 2K-2K5 and the franchise feature that was in (if I recall correctly) 2K2-2K5... yes, that is a very fun feature, and one 2K Sports views as very important in all its sports games. I cannot speak as to the inclusion of a franchise mode, but I can tell you that 2K Sports views a franchise mode as a key inclusion in every simulation sports game. 2K Sports will also not be releasing a "half-baked" game in APF 2K8 Ya' know, you ever think that maybe, just maybe, we might have something bigger in store??? __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 04-13-2007 at 10:36 AM.

04-13-2007, 10:48 AM	#80
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I would be pretty happy with just a full season mode since I never take the same team into a second season. I'm curious about the "something bigger" though. That something bigger might grab me better than a franchise mode would.

04-13-2007, 10:51 AM	#81
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Online leagues?

04-13-2007, 11:08 AM	#82
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Pacman Jones mode You take a player off the field and the game turns into GTA __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

04-13-2007, 11:12 AM	#83
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Well, after the buggy mess that was their baseball game for 360, I'm not really holding my breath for this "big breakthrough"

04-13-2007, 01:06 PM	#87
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Online leagues just don't work. People who are losing a lot lose interest, and schedules are hard to synch up. The FML and the Madden tournaments I used to run demonstrated it all too well. It is way more frustration than it is worth. Unless you are able to play against the computer when your opponent fails to show by a certain time.

04-13-2007, 02:57 PM	#89
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	The FML was a Madden league where we did the scheduling out of game and then compiled standings by hand. My main point was people suck, and can't be relied on to play their games, especially if they aren't doing well. I've never played 2K's online leagues.

04-17-2007, 12:28 PM	#91
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Here's Bill Harris' take on the interview in Game Informer magazine. Not looking too good. This one is starting to tumble off the hype wagon for me....... http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...tball-2k8.html

04-17-2007, 02:17 PM	#95
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	[Madden]This is the Brett Favre of sports video game blunders.[/Madden] __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

04-18-2007, 09:05 AM	#96
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	They certainly seem to be making the worst out of what was initially a positive development (competition for EA).

04-18-2007, 04:10 PM	#97
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Through their forum mods, they have seemed to indicate some regret about how badly that interview was "misrepresented." Hopefully, this was just a bad PR blunder and not a sign of things to come. However, my optimism regarding this game is certainly less in the last week than it has been in the last few months. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

04-26-2007, 06:44 AM	#100
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	http://www.footballresurrected.com/games/football2k8/ Their web site has been updated to include the 240 legends that are in the game. Pretty good list - Montana, Marino, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, OJ Simpson (I'm not kidding), etc. No Deion Sanders though.

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