My Ridiculously Inept Congresscommie (Who Now Faces Arrest!)

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

As long as I have been around, you haven't. 9 posts in strategies (5 were within 4 days of each other), haven't posted in Dynasty forum in 2 months.

This sounds like the kind of "research" you were referring to earlier with regards to politics. Gee, I'm impressed.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

This sounds like the kind of "research" you were referring to earlier with regards to politics. Gee, I'm impressed.

I'm confused, what's your point?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

I'm confused, what's your point?

That if you'd actually done in-depth research, you'd be fully aware that you were going down a road that would make you look like a world-class clueless idiot. If that's the kind of shoddy "research" you're talking about people doing, then I find it even funnier than I'd found it up to now.

...and I'd found it substantially funny up to now.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

That if you'd actually done in-depth research, you'd be fully aware that you were going down a road that would make you look like a world-class clueless idiot. If that's the kind of shoddy "research" you're talking about people doing, then I find it even funnier than I'd found it up to now.

...and I'd found it substantially funny up to now.

'Shoddy research'? You mean like spreading the rumor that jbmagic was Maximus in disguise based on your 'mounting evidence'? Or banning someone for having 90% political posts when the percentage was closer to 50%?

It's amusing how you get testy and go on the attack when you realize you are wrong, instead of actually admitting you are wrong. What's your next post, how I am a whiney schoolgirl? My point was that you were a hypocrite, you admitted you were a hypocrite, let's move on. If you agree with me, I don't understand the point of the ad hominem attacks.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

My point was that you were a hypocrite, you admitted you were a hypocrite, let's move on. If you agree with me, I don't understand the point of the ad hominem attacks.

ROFLMBAO!!! You are a funny, funny man. Perhaps you should check this link.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Daimyo

Wow. I didn't get that connection at all and still don't see it... but i guess we all bring our own biases with us and that leads us to read things differently. *shurg*

Wow.

[Ben E Lou]

...or this one. It might be a good idea to bookmark this one.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

ROFLMBAO!!! You are a funny, funny man. Perhaps you should check this link.

If it is sarcasm, it doesn't make any sense. See SkyDog, your post here was filled with empty attacks, full of fury and signifying nothing. It was empty, intellectually bankrupt, devoid of substance. You created an entire thread to complain about how your congresswoman puts black people in her photos of her local newsletter that nobody else here cares about. Then you proceeded to call her inept and a communist and suggested she had sexual relations with James Baker or someoene. It could have been written by a 5 year old. My feeling is that you are well within your right to do so, I don't think sophomoric political commentary falls under the 'asshat clause'.

However, you routinely go out of your way to stifle actual criticism, specifically with regards to Iraq. Off the top of my head, I remember you saying that me saying that most of the people were against the Iraq war was 'laughable' and 'trolling', even though the statement was backed by the polls. I remember you banning a member for posting a wire service article saying that a majority of the troops want to end the war. And even in the banning of another member that had some out-there religious views.

It's hypocritical of you to use your mod pulpit to ban certain views, while at the same time post empty attacks such as these.

[Glengoyne]

If anyone in this thread is intellectually bankrupt, my vote goes to Cynthia Mckinney(sp?).

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

If anyone in this thread is intellectually bankrupt, my vote goes to Cynthia Mckinney(sp?).

Duh.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

If it is sarcasm, it doesn't make any sense. See SkyDog, your post here was filled with empty attacks, full of fury and signifying nothing. It was empty, intellectually bankrupt, devoid of substance. You created an entire thread to complain about how your congresswoman puts black people in her photos of her local newsletter that nobody else here cares about. Then you proceeded to call her inept and a communist and suggested she had sexual relations with James Baker or someoene. It could have been written by a 5 year old. My feeling is that you are well within your right to do so, I don't think sophomoric political commentary falls under the 'asshat clause'.

However, you routinely go out of your way to stifle actual criticism, specifically with regards to Iraq. Off the top of my head, I remember you saying that me saying that most of the people were against the Iraq war was 'laughable' and 'trolling', even though the statement was backed by the polls. I remember you banning a member for posting a wire service article saying that a majority of the troops want to end the war. And even in the banning of another member that had some out-there religious views.

It's hypocritical of you to use your mod pulpit to ban certain views, while at the same time post empty attacks such as these.

I bet you were a master debater in college.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I bet you were a master debater in college.

Are you saying that because I'm white?

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

If anyone in this thread is intellectually bankrupt, my vote goes to Cynthia Mckinney(sp?).

That may be the case, but nobody in this thread has introduced any evidence that suggests it.

Shorter SkyDog critique: Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah! My congresswoman is liberal!

EDIT: And again, that's all well and good to post a whiney thread about something you don't like, but don't also consider yourself the judge of political debate.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

Are you saying that because I'm white?

Well played. You still are a master debater, I see. Don't let people think you're not. Did you have to be trained by your intructor or does it just come naturally?

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

That may be the case, but nobody in this thread has introduced any evidence that suggests it.

Shorter SkyDog critique: Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah! My congresswoman is liberal!

EDIT: And again, that's all well and good to post a whiney thread about something you don't like, but don't also consider yourself the judge of political debate.

A serious question for you. Do you know anything about this congress lady's history?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by wade moore

A serious question for you. Do you know anything about this congress lady's history?

All he needs to know is her party affiliation. That's how he makes his judgements.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by wade moore

A serious question for you. Do you know anything about this congress lady's history?

I've read a lot about her, looking for her wild streak of communism, and couldn't find it. Looked at her site, wikipedia, Slate articles, etc. I've asked SkyDog a couple times to give more info about her communism, haven't seen it. Like I said many times, she might be an inept communist who had sex with James Baker, but no evidence in this thread has been put forth to suggest it.

[Easy Mac]

I have to ask, what would have happened if someone had titled a thread:
{Sigh} My Rediculously Inept Presidenazi.

Given the history of the board, I'd have to say they're suspended.

I wll also have to say Skydog, poor form on the "Heh. I'm not going to be drawn into an argument on the initial stuff. As far as I'm concerned, it is axiomatic that McKinney's rantings are idiotic, and that her philosophy is very much communistic. Everything else from there is just laughing at her."

Your thread was started with the obvious intent to antogonize those on the left. All you had to say was that she was a horribly inept congresswoman, but you threw in the Communism, trying to characterize the left as Communists. It would be no different than me labeling every rightist a Nazi. Obviously you can't be suspended, because no one would have the balls to do so, but I think some sort of public caning is in order.

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

All he needs to know is her party affiliation. That's how he makes his judgements.

That seems to be how most of the initial posters made their judgement.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

All he needs to know is her party affiliation. That's how he makes his judgements.

This is the definition of a trolling statement. Furthermore, you are playing off your own prejudices. I am critical of Bush, that doesn't mean that I hate all Republicans and love all Democrats. It also doesn't mean that I am a partisan Democrat. The last two Senate races in PA I have voted for Santorum and Specter, I supported the GOP candidate for Mayor of Philly over Democrat John Street.

And I haven't even given an opinion of Cynthia McKinney, I haven't given a judgement of her, so to say I am making a judgement based off of her party affiliation is wrong on its face. I don't agree with a lot of the views of Cynthia McKinney. But I don't see any evidence of communism.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

This is the definition of a trolling statement. Furthermore, you are playing off your own prejudices. I am critical of Bush, that doesn't mean that I hate all Republicans and love all Democrats. It also doesn't mean that I am a partisan Democrat. The last two Senate races in PA I have voted for Santorum and Specter, I supported the GOP candidate for Mayor of Philly over Democrat John Street.

And I haven't even given an opinion of Cynthia McKinney, I haven't given a judgement of her, so to say I am making a judgement based off of her party affiliation is wrong on its face. I don't agree with a lot of the views of Cynthia McKinney. But I don't see any evidence of communism.

It's not trolling to point out that you are the most predictable member of the forum when it comes to defending Democrats or attacking Republicans. To respond by accusing me of being a troll is pure defensiveness, nothing more.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Your thread was started with the obvious intent to antogonize those on the left.

Not at all. I've poked fun at Cynthia in other threads, and they haven't come to her defense. It never occurred to me that anyone would be obtuse enough to view her as anything but the joke that she is, or be bothered to engage in any sort of debate regarding her.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I bet you were a master debater in college.

Tee hee, you said master-debater...

[st.cronin]

I think Jeeber should lock this thread.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

I've read a lot about her, looking for her wild streak of communism, and couldn't find it. Looked at her site, wikipedia, Slate articles, etc. I've asked SkyDog a couple times to give more info about her communism, haven't seen it. Like I said many times, she might be an inept communist who had sex with James Baker, but no evidence in this thread has been put forth to suggest it.

The reason I ask is... me being somewhat non-political, but relatively news informed, I thought it was pretty much an accepted fact by BOTH ends of the aisle that she is far left of left and has what many would call socialistic (and SD stretches that to communistic here) ideas even beyond that of some of the more liberal liberals.

I thought it was accepted that she is kind of the Democrat Ying to Pat Robertson's Yang, even by Democrats.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

It's not trolling to point out that you are the most predictable member of the forum when it comes to defending Democrats or attacking Republicans. To respond by accusing me of being a troll is pure defensiveness, nothing more.

Please st.cronin, I do not defend all Democrats and attack all Republicans. Hillary Clinton gets lambasted on here, and I'm not jumping in to defend her all the time. I will defend Democrats against obvious lies, like Reid and the GOP's suggestion that he is part of the Abramoff scandal. I will defend Democrats whose positions get completely misreprented, like McKinney.

You see me as attacking Bush and religious right nuts, so therefore I must attack all Republicans. That just isn't true. The country is on a bad trend downward, and the country is run by Republicans, so there are a lot more Republicans that deserve to be attacked right now than Democrats. I've previously defended capsicum and JiMG (though I think I was wrong about JiMG), you can look all that up in my post history.

I said you were trolling because you entered a thread discussion just to make an obvious antagonizing personal attack backed up by nothing.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by wade moore

The reason I ask is... me being somewhat non-political, but relatively news informed, I thought it was pretty much an accepted fact by BOTH ends of the aisle that she is far left of left and has what many would call socialistic (and SD stretches that to communistic here) ideas even beyond that of some of the more liberal liberals.

I thought it was accepted that she is kind of the Democrat Ying to Pat Robertson's Yang, even by Democrats.

Like I said, that could be the case, but I haven't seen anyone yet explain that in this thread. I follow politics pretty closely, and I had never heard of her before I started doing research seeing why she was being called a communist.

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Not at all. I've poked fun at Cynthia in other threads, and they haven't come to her defense. It never occurred to me that anyone would be obtuse enough to view her as anything but the joke that she is, or be bothered to engage in any sort of debate regarding her.

I suppose if you have nothing to back up your attacks, you may as well just go ad hominem. Trying to discuss something with you is a little like trying to discuss something with Bubba Wheels. Just personal attacks and wild statements coming out of nowhere that are given no supportive evidence at all.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

I suppose if you have nothing to back up your attacks, you may as well just go ad hominem. Trying to discuss something with you is a little like trying to discuss something with Bubba Wheels. Just personal attacks and wild statements coming out of nowhere that are given no supportive evidence at all.

Then don't discuss it. I said before that as far as I'm concerned it isn't up for discussion or debate what a world-class lunatic she is. It is axiomatic. I enjoy laughing at her antics, and will continue to post them when she (inevitably) does something else that makes me laugh.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Then don't discuss it. I said before that as far as I'm concerned it isn't up for discussion or debate what a world-class lunatic she is. It is axiomatic. I enjoy laughing at her antics, and will continue to post them when she (inevitably) does something else that makes me laugh.

One thing I really like about this lady is she keeps all her congressional memo's on record and archived on her web-site. You have to appreciate that.

However, the flip-side, reading through though articles and memo's, notably about our foreign policy, you would think she plagarized Al Jazeera's work. Who said propaganda isn't effective? The terror-fundamentalists have some of our very own far leftists in lock-step with them.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Dutch

The terror-fundamentalists have some of our very own far leftists in lock-step with them.

And George Bush's foreign policy has given Osama bin Laden the Iraq he always wanted. Actions speak louder than words.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I thought it was accepted that she is kind of the Democrat Ying to Pat Robertson's Yang, even by Democrats.

Pretty much. McKinney is possibly the only democrat I would categorically vote against no matter who was running against her. Similar to how I felt about Jesse Helms growing up in North Carolina, except Helms wasn't nearly as far out to the right as I perceive McKinney to be out to the left.

[stevew]

Sometimes i think that people are just looking for a fight....

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Radii

Pretty much. McKinney is possibly the only democrat I would categorically vote against no matter who was running against her. Similar to how I felt about Jesse Helms growing up in North Carolina, except Helms wasn't nearly as far out to the right as I perceive McKinney to be out to the left.

And that's what I'd expect of most. She's an embarrasment to most Dems that I know, and the fact that some here defends her just shows there are many on the left on this board that are just as sold out as the right.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

And George Bush's foreign policy has given Osama bin Laden the Iraq he always wanted. Actions speak louder than words.

The foreign policy in Iraq has nothing to do with Osama bin Laden. Iraq harbored and paid terrorists, but apparently not Osama Bin Laden. Although Bin Laden did have free reign to roam across Iraq as need be and to set up camps along the Iraq/Iran border as well, that wasn't in Saddam's control. Another reason why it's good that Saddam is gone.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by stevew

Sometimes i think that people are just looking for a fight....

well, duh

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

Please st.cronin, I do not defend all Democrats and attack all Republicans. Hillary Clinton gets lambasted on here, and I'm not jumping in to defend her all the time. I will defend Democrats against obvious lies, like Reid and the GOP's suggestion that he is part of the Abramoff scandal. I will defend Democrats whose positions get completely misreprented, like McKinney.

You see me as attacking Bush and religious right nuts, so therefore I must attack all Republicans. That just isn't true. The country is on a bad trend downward, and the country is run by Republicans, so there are a lot more Republicans that deserve to be attacked right now than Democrats. I've previously defended capsicum and JiMG (though I think I was wrong about JiMG), you can look all that up in my post history.

I said you were trolling because you entered a thread discussion just to make an obvious antagonizing personal attack backed up by nothing.

I was in this thread before you were, so neener neener.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

And that's what I'd expect of most. She's an embarrasment to most Dems that I know, and the fact that some here defends her just shows there are many on the left on this board that are just as sold out as the right.

Grant, he didn't defend her. What he said was that Ben presented no evidence for his "arguement" other than his standard " I know better" (or couldn' be bothered to, fair enough). I personally think McKinney is a nut job because I've read some of her stuff before, but I fail to see where Bigglesworth said that she's some sort of saint. Also, I'm not sure how a guy who voted for Santorum and Specter (I think the former is a complete scumbag) is a far-left guy.

[Honolulu_Blue]

This thread is simply sky rocketing up the "Worst. Threads. Ever." charts at an unbelievable pace. It's bound to break the Top Ten in the next few hours.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

This thread is simply sky rocketing up the "Worst. Threads. Ever." charts at an unbelievable pace. It's bound to break the Top Ten in the next few hours.

Snakes on a Thread?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by stevew

Snakes on a Thread?

lol

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Grant, he didn't defend her. What he said was that Ben presented no evidence for his "arguement" other than his standard " I know better" (or couldn' be bothered to, fair enough). I personally think McKinney is a nut job because I've read some of her stuff before, but I fail to see where Bigglesworth said that she's some sort of saint. Also, I'm not sure how a guy who voted for Santorum and Specter (I think the former is a complete scumbag) is a far-left guy.

Ben never made an "arguement." Mr. B did, but Ben refused to debate what is known. I don't blame him. This was a "make fun of a nut" thread, pure and simple. Mr. B is trying turn it into "Ben is a facist" thread, which is silly. In the history of this board, right-wing nuts have been banned more than left-wing nuts by a wide margin. Mr. B spending time fighting whether she's a "commie" (btw, does anyone really think she's a commie? Isn't that hyperbole? Do the left really think Bush is a Nazi?) is a waste of time.

The sad thing is I agree with Mr. B some of the time. But when he comes into threads like this and starts this crap, it makes me less likely to want to take his side in the future. Agreeing with him is becoming like agreeing with Bubba. It makes you second guess yourself.

[stevew]

My congressman is rediculously fat. Good Ole Phil English.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by stevew

Snakes on a Thread?

Heh!!!

All we need now is for Sam Jackson to yell:

"I want this motherf**king thread off this motherf**king board!"

[JonInMiddleGA]

Good ol' Cynnnnnnnnthia, never a slow news day when she's around

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...tmckinney.html

Police say McKinney struck Capitol officer

By BOB KEMPER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/29/06

WASHINGTON — U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia struck a Capitol Hill police officer Wednesday morning after the officer, not recognizing her as a member of Congress, tried to stop her from stepping around a security post, police said.

The incident "has been brought to our attention and it is being investigated," said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, spokeswoman for Capitol Hill police.

The officer who tried to stop McKinney, a DeKalb County Democrat, was not immediately identified. But congressional and police officials said the man intended to press charges against McKinney.

A deputy police chief and a representative of the House's sergeant-at-arms visited McKinney's congressional office Wednesday afternoon. Neither commented to reporters.

McKinney's office had not made any statement about the incident by late Wednesday afternoon.

A spokesman for the sergeant-at-arms was not immediately available for comment.

McKinney frequently does not wear the special congressional lapel pin that would have immediately identified her as a House member.

Police usually keep pictures of members at each checkpoint to help them identify members of Congress, who are allowed to step around the metal detector and X-ray machines placed at every entrance of the Capitol and congressional office buildings. However, McKinney has dramatically changed her hairstyle since her official House picture was taken.

The incident occurred when McKinney was entering the Longworth House Office Building. Her office is in the neighboring Cannon building.

This is not the first time McKinney has had such a run-in with Capitol Hill police.

When she first arrived in Congress in 1993, a Capitol Hill police officer failed to recognize her because she was not wearing the congressional pin. Police put pictures of McKinney up at each security checkpoint to ensure it didn't happen again.

McKinney also once ran into problems at the White House when Secret Service agents tried to stop her as she entered the grounds to attend an event with President Clinton. McKinney suggested that the incident was racially tinged, claiming the Secret Service did not stop a white male aide who was accompanying her.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Good ol' Cynnnnnnnnthia, never a slow news day when she's around

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...tmckinney.html

Police say McKinney struck Capitol officer

By BOB KEMPER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/29/06

WASHINGTON — U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia struck a Capitol Hill police officer Wednesday morning after the officer, not recognizing her as a member of Congress, tried to stop her from stepping around a security post, police said.

The incident "has been brought to our attention and it is being investigated," said Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, spokeswoman for Capitol Hill police.

The officer who tried to stop McKinney, a DeKalb County Democrat, was not immediately identified. But congressional and police officials said the man intended to press charges against McKinney.

A deputy police chief and a representative of the House's sergeant-at-arms visited McKinney's congressional office Wednesday afternoon. Neither commented to reporters.

McKinney's office had not made any statement about the incident by late Wednesday afternoon.

A spokesman for the sergeant-at-arms was not immediately available for comment.

McKinney frequently does not wear the special congressional lapel pin that would have immediately identified her as a House member.

Police usually keep pictures of members at each checkpoint to help them identify members of Congress, who are allowed to step around the metal detector and X-ray machines placed at every entrance of the Capitol and congressional office buildings. However, McKinney has dramatically changed her hairstyle since her official House picture was taken.

The incident occurred when McKinney was entering the Longworth House Office Building. Her office is in the neighboring Cannon building.

This is not the first time McKinney has had such a run-in with Capitol Hill police.

When she first arrived in Congress in 1993, a Capitol Hill police officer failed to recognize her because she was not wearing the congressional pin. Police put pictures of McKinney up at each security checkpoint to ensure it didn't happen again.

McKinney also once ran into problems at the White House when Secret Service agents tried to stop her as she entered the grounds to attend an event with President Clinton. McKinney suggested that the incident was racially tinged, claiming the Secret Service did not stop a white male aide who was accompanying her.

Hehehehe.

That's actually consistent with the encounter I had with her a few months ago. She seemed pretty indignant that I didn't immediately recognize her on the security screen.

[CamEdwards]

you're lucky she didn't take a swing at you.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

you're lucky she didn't take a swing at you.

Thanks.

You just gave me a visual image of SD going medieval on her.

Sadly, that's one of the highlights of my otherwise PITA kind of day.
But a highlight nonetheless.

[CamEdwards]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Thanks.

You just gave me a visual image of SD going medieval on her.

Sadly, that's one of the highlights of my otherwise PITA kind of day.
But a highlight nonetheless.

was he wearing the patriotic panties?

[JeeberD]

Oh dear lord, Cam. After seeing you go off on the TV folks the other day just imagining you saying things like that makes me bust out laughing...