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11-23-2005, 01:37 PM | #52 |
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The noscript extension for firefox should prevent the ads from loading.
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11-23-2005, 01:39 PM | #53 |
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An interesting by-product of this for me is that "Games" are a filtered category on my company's WebSense program. When the ads come up, I get locked out of the forum for a few minutes until I can get it to load without the ad.
That said, I understand the reasoning for the ads and don't have a big problem with them. OTOH, if the decision is made to venture out on our own, I'm happy to contribute. |
11-23-2005, 02:03 PM | #54 |
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what ads is everyone talking about? mabey because I only login direct to the message board I don't see them. Hey I'm not complaining, but I don't see any ads.
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11-23-2005, 02:09 PM | #55 |
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I'm with SnDvls... no ads here.. got the main forum page bookmarked, using the yellow skin.
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11-23-2005, 02:15 PM | #56 |
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I've seen them using the yellow skin, so I think it's just the luck of the draw. However, it hasn't been so much of an annoyance that I feel a move is in order. If we do decide to move, though, count me in for a few bucks.
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11-23-2005, 02:23 PM | #57 |
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GameSpy Hosting Manager message
Hey Folks,
I wanted to drop in and add some notes from us regarding ads, and the recent changes. First, I'd like to say that we are working through some ad-related issues which are causing problems for your site, and we are turning off the interruptive ads temporarily while we sort them out. Second, we'll be working with the admins here to ensure ads aren't unnecessarily disruptive and to look into other possibilities on how we work together. Regarding ads, our requirements are the "stitial" (the annoying interruptive) ads which are served on a frequency basis and should not interrupt post activity, and one ad unit per page, which in this site's case will more than likely be leaderboard ads. I recognize that these can be difficult to stomach, but they are what allow us to offer no-fee hosting. The no fee hosting essentially has no limits, either for space, database size or bandwidth. If/when you are comparing commercial services please keep in mind that we never, ever will shut down because the site passes bandwidth limits. Thanks for your patience as we complete this changeover. -chuck Hosting Manager IGN Entertainment, Inc. (GameSpy, IGN and Brain Network Hosting) |
11-23-2005, 02:26 PM | #58 |
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So far, they are hit and miss enough that they aren't that big a deal. If they end up being every 2-4 clicks, then I'm packing.
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11-23-2005, 02:32 PM | #59 | |
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To expand on that, we have a frequency cap which will not allow anything remotely that often, if those ads appear at that rate there is actually something wrong. -chuck |
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11-23-2005, 02:32 PM | #60 |
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Is anyone that is using Kerio Personal Firewall seeing any ads?
I haven't seen any ads at all. |
11-23-2005, 02:43 PM | #61 | |
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11-23-2005, 02:49 PM | #62 |
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Three proposals...
1. Jim fronts the cost of a private server and we allow him to edit/ban the users that always seem to annoy him. 2. Move to a private server and get rid of the hattrick section. 3. Let the people who play wearwolf games front the cost of a new server. On a serious note... this is a cool site, I think I have said a few times that I get a lot of my news from here. But if you guys ever think the people with a lot of posts play an elitest card sometimes try a board where people contribute money. They will not say anything for a few months, but then bannings, topics, etc. will eventually degrade into "Well put up $20 since you don't contribue anything anyways". Tigerboard is a good example of a good board going to complete shit. Last edited by panerd : 11-23-2005 at 02:49 PM. |
11-23-2005, 02:54 PM | #63 |
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i also agree that Jim should look into getting his own official board, and i'd deal with bannings and boxings a lot better. if we start paying for this forum then it essentially becomes "our board" (and not SkyDog's board), and there is a lot from the board leadership that i wouldn't tolerate if i became a "paying customer". leave things as they are. i feel once people start contributing to the maintainence of this place they should have some input as to how certain things are handled. too many cooks stirring the pot is a bad thing, so i don't want to go down that road. nothing in life is for free, if i pay for this site by having to deal with some ads every now and then so be it. things change once money is involved.
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11-23-2005, 02:58 PM | #64 |
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Why would Jim need to get a board? If he really wanted one, I'm sure he'd have one on his site.
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11-23-2005, 03:04 PM | #65 |
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By the way, the interstitial ads were causing the errors people were seeing on these forums. We've disabled it until the problem is found and have added the leaderboard instead.
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11-23-2005, 03:05 PM | #66 | |
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This huge ass banner add. |
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11-23-2005, 03:06 PM | #67 |
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Nice Timestamping.
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11-23-2005, 03:07 PM | #69 |
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Reckon I haven't seen it yet...
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11-23-2005, 03:07 PM | #70 |
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A leaderboard is a slightly larger banner ad. I only added it to the default template.
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11-23-2005, 03:09 PM | #71 | |
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11-23-2005, 03:09 PM | #72 |
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The timestamp issue was reported a little while ago - we're just waiting for the IT people to fix it.
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11-23-2005, 03:12 PM | #73 |
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Firefox + AdBlock plugin = more than good
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11-23-2005, 03:25 PM | #75 | |
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11-23-2005, 03:34 PM | #76 |
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*laughs* I am not completely heartless, I feel sorry for the Gamespy folks who come in, assure us that showing us these ads are important (as long as they aren't TOO frequent, a couple a day ain't so bad)..
And everyone starts talking about how FF can completely block them.. WHILE they're here..
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11-23-2005, 03:36 PM | #77 | |
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I honestly don't think it is that big a deal to them because FF is still such a small minority of users. If/when more users are using it, expect AD people to take time to try to figure out ways to combat it. |
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11-23-2005, 03:38 PM | #78 |
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FF is 10% and growing of the GENERAL population.. amongst those who are clued in (admittedly, not a great percentage on some of the OTHER planet sites ), that percentage is much much higher.
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11-23-2005, 03:39 PM | #79 | |
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11-23-2005, 03:42 PM | #80 | |
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I like this site the way it is - and that includes not being able to ban people who annoy me. Like this Lufia guy - I think he's out to get me. Kidding aside, I just don't see the need of having my own special forum. Remember, I respond to rumors only to quell them. If my response seems overly strong, it's only because I've been burned in the past by not addressing specific rumors. It's not personal. I appreciate that GameSpy hosts this for us. I'm sure they're aware of the balance between an ad presence that drives people away and not generating enough ad revenue due to a lack of ads. It's worked very well for all of us so far. |
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11-23-2005, 03:47 PM | #81 |
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The only problem I think there is with Solecismic not having an official forum is half-ass bug reporting. Too many times have I seen bugs reported in miscellaneous places, but they aren't reported to support (and hence, they don't get fixed).
I guess it's more conveniant for guys to post reports in a tech forum instead of e-mailing them. Either that or maybe not everyone knows where to send bug reports. I don't know. |
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That's true. This is too big a forum to monitor everything - especially right after a release. Originally, that was the sole "job" of the "liaison," but it just wasn't a practical approach. Some people are very good about reporting problems through email, which I appreciate. I'm still getting about one report a week. Even if it's something very minor, I still hold on to every report - even ones from years past - and go through the entire queue during the development cycle. I did have a forum on my site briefly after the TCY release. I just didn't have the web space, and had to constantly monitor it to eliminate any extraneous discussion because of that. Of course, that kinda defeated the purpose of having a forum - it wasn't much fun to visit. |
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11-23-2005, 03:59 PM | #83 |
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Which reminds me.. I've got a bug report to send.
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11-23-2005, 04:40 PM | #84 | |
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Yes, that number is growing. And once that growth reaches a tipping point there will be new ad technoligies and techniques developed, and people will complain about how intrusive they are, and work on ways around them. And the cycle will continue, same as it has for years.
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In other words, stop selling it so hard or your going to lose the benefits you enjoy by being the small minority. |
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11-23-2005, 05:17 PM | #86 | |
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11-23-2005, 05:30 PM | #87 |
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What ads?
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Oh ok... hopefully Firefox can take care of them...
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11-23-2005, 06:35 PM | #90 | |
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I quite appreciate GameSpy and I doubt that I'd even move to another board since it all seems sour grapes to me.
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My host provides 60 gigs of space and 1.3 TERABYTES of traffic a month now. It's the same host that I use as well as SmartGuysSports.com. At 15.95 a month prepaid for 2 years I think it would be a smart option to look into moving to them or a host that provides crazy bandwidth like that. |
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01-05-2006, 09:07 AM | #92 |
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If we ever got a new home could we maybe have Avatars?
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Wow, I missed this thread the first time. Therefor, it's good to know that the annoying inters... the click-to-skip-ads are required. Even though I seem to get them every 20 clicks, if they are required, I can live with it. But to be honest, the banners at the top are better for advertising to me. I'm pretty aware of Civ IV being out there now, whilst I can't remember a single inters... click-to-skip-ad at all.
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A lot of the inexpensive hosting deals are great for small sites, but they choke and die when hit with the kind of traffic this forum produces. Not saying your host is like that, but realistically speaking, $16 is a pittance in comparison to the bandwidth it can provide. This means that they limit the pipe available for each site and we would most likely be very disappointed in the performance. Again, not saying that your host is like that, but these virtual host sites are inexpensive for a reason.
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That's quite possibly the most insane case of overselling I've ever seen. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=474952 Fwiw...if FOFC is -- now or ever -- seriously looking at moving somewhere, these are the types of outfits they should run as far away from as possible. All these hosts that throw huge numbers at you are, to be blunt, full of shit. This site needs semi-dedicated or dedicated hosting. If you want to take your chances with a place like Dreamhost or whatever, feel free, but don't say I didn't warn you. |
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They're *all* full of shit. It's nothing against Dreamhost....I could rave for hours about the host I'm currently using, but they're no different. My account gives me 12 GB of space and 60 GB bandwidth a month, but while I'm only using ~4 GB at the moment, I got "Disk Full" errors when trying to FTP last week. They had to move several accounts off my server to free up space. Like I said, they ALL do it...it's just a matter of how blatant their exaggeration is to their customers. Bandwidth is the single most expensive commodity for hosting companies. DH may advertise 1.3 TB of bandwidth a month, but I'd bet a year's salary that if they actually had to *serve* that much bandwidth to more than a handful of individual customers, they would go bankrupt, assuming their NOC didn't blow up first. Of course, they're never in danger of having a customer hit that mark because they limit the amount of CPU time you're allowed to use. Web hosts are like used car salesmen. You might be perfectly happy with the car you drive off the lot, but it doesn't mean you don't feel dirty while you're buying it. |
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