Nice move, Mr. President! - Page 2

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-15-2008, 07:23 AM

The embed video cuts off a bit early. Right as Bush ducks the second shoe, you'll see a guy in a suit coming in from the left hand side of the screen. That's the personal Secret Service guy for Bush. That guy was going to take Bush out of the room, but you'll notice if you watch a longer video clip that Bush waves him off and smiles. Pretty impressive that Bush wanted to stay in the batter's box after ducking two beanballs disguised as Size 10 shoes. Most people would have bailed assuming the next object would be a grenade considering it's still a war zone.

KWhit · 12-15-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

In the middle of the news conference with Mr Maliki, a reporter stood up and shouted "this is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog."

JPhillips · 12-15-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

The embed video cuts off a bit early. Right as Bush ducks the second shoe, you'll see a guy in a suit coming in from the left hand side of the screen. That's the personal Secret Service guy for Bush. That guy was going to take Bush out of the room, but you'll notice if you watch a longer video clip that Bush waves him off and smiles. Pretty impressive that Bush wanted to stay in the batter's box after ducking two beanballs disguised as Size 10 shoes. Most people would have bailed assuming the next object would be a grenade considering it's still a war zone.

If you had two shoes and a grenade wouldn't you throw the grenade first?

Butter · 12-15-2008, 09:35 AM

That's exactly what they'd be expecting you to do.

Kodos · 12-15-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Even better, he catches the shoes and then crushes them into ashes in his hands.

This one made me laugh.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-15-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

If you had two shoes and a grenade wouldn't you throw the grenade first?

Extremist muslims use their own body as a means of delivery for a bomb. Never assume that logic is involved.

Buccaneer · 12-15-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Obama would have turned that shoe into a unicorn and it would have flown around the land, bringing peace and hope to the people.

He would only been able to turn a shoe into a rat if it had happened in Chicago.

Barkeep49 · 12-15-2008, 09:56 AM

First I agree with the props to Bush for his move.

I do see the security issue as troubling though. I've seen longer clips as well and the Secret Service does move in. I'm willing to give the Secret Service a little break here since presumably the journalists entering were screened for weapons and so their guard was placed differently than in a more public event.

Either that or Secret Service agents have to take bullets for the President but not shoes

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flere-imsaho · 12-15-2008, 10:13 AM

That's the way I saw it: he's in the Green Zone, in a small, controlled room with pre-screened (and presumably well known) journalists. The threat level wasn't very high (shoes notwithstanding).

lungs · 12-15-2008, 12:37 PM

I hope this terrorist is on the first ship to Guantanamo where he should be locked up and the key thrown away.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-15-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

I hope this terrorist is on the first ship to Guantanamo where he should be locked up and the key thrown away.

You forgot about the Metallica and Rob Zombie music in the cell.

Fighter of Foo · 12-15-2008, 01:08 PM

Sadly, there's been infinitely more coverage of the Illinois governor than this:

http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=305735

"On February 7, 2002, President George W. Bush made a written determination that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which would have afforded minimum standards for humane treatment, did not apply to al Qaeda or Taliban detainees. Following the President’s determination, techniques such as waterboarding, nudity, and stress positions, used in SERE training to simulate tactics used by enemies that refuse to follow the Geneva Conventions, were authorized for use in interrogations of detainees in U.S. custody."...

"The abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib in late 2003 was not simply the result of a few soldiers acting on their own. Interrogation techniques such as stripping detainees of their clothes, placing them in stress positions, and using military working dogs to intimidate them appeared in Iraq only after they had been approved for use in Afghanistan and at GTMO. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s December 2, 2002 authorization of aggressive interrogation techniques and subsequent interrogation policies and plans approved by senior military and civilian officials conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees in U.S. military custody. What followed was an erosion in standards dictating that detainees be treated humanely."

They deserve to have a hell of a lot more than shoes thrown at them.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-15-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

They deserve to have a hell of a lot more than shoes thrown at them.

Yeah, because there's hundreds of innocent people tortured on the far end of Cuba. Oh the humanity.

I have far more sympathy for the guy who tossed the shoe and his situation.

lungs · 12-15-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

You forgot about the Metallica and Rob Zombie music in the cell.

George Bush might enjoy Metallica and Rob Zombie, though.

JPhillips · 12-15-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, because there's hundreds of innocent people tortured on the far end of Cuba. Oh the humanity.

I have far more sympathy for the guy who tossed the shoe and his situation.

What does Chewbacca have to do with this?

Pyser · 12-15-2008, 01:37 PM

my favorite part of this was the cnn main page, that added "in their culture throwing your shoes is a sign of disrespect."

they are SO different from us!!

Antmeister · 12-15-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

This makes me feel much better about President Obama. In a world where dodging shoes is becoming more important every day, who would you rather have behind the podium, Obama or McCain? I think obviously the answer is Obama.

This would make a great movie trailer quote.

Lorena · 12-15-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Obama would have turned that shoe into a unicorn and it would have flown around the land, bringing peace and hope to the people.

SunDevil · 12-15-2008, 01:52 PM

This video is awesome. I wish the shoe would of actually hit though.

PLD3009 · 12-15-2008, 01:58 PM

Bush must have plenty of shoes

why didnt this guy throw something at him Bush would have found more useful

like a brain perhaps?

sterlingice · 12-15-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

I hope this terrorist is on the first ship to Guantanamo where he should be locked up and the key thrown away.

Seriously?

SI

gstelmack · 12-15-2008, 02:52 PM

I hereby recommend at least boxings for all the folks trying to turn this into a serious discussion. More shoe jokes please!

Maple Leafs · 12-15-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

That tackle at the end is a pretty blatant horse collar. 15 yards.

Maple Leafs · 12-15-2008, 03:24 PM

By the way, clearly the correct play here would be to lob the first shoe high into the air, then throw the chin music with the second one when Bush is looking up.

Kodos · 12-15-2008, 03:31 PM

Dodgeball tactics!

QuikSand · 12-15-2008, 03:40 PM

I just can't see a day when there's nothing left to add to this thread.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 12-15-2008, 03:43 PM

The worst part about this whole Shoegate is it has caused that terrible Austin Powers movie to reenter the zeitgeist, if only (hopefully) for today.

Subby · 12-15-2008, 04:10 PM

Catch shoe in butt - CHECK

Return fire - CHECK

Anthony · 12-15-2008, 04:26 PM

i like how the Iraqi minister standing next to Bush gave one of those half attempts to block the 2nd shoe, much like when you're standing in an elivator and the doors are closing and someone is shouting "hold the doors" but since you don't want to be late you make that awkward gesture as if you were going to press the button to open the door but Oh Damn! it's too late, the doors closed. i haven't seen such a half-hearted attempt since Milwaukee offered Sabathia a below competitive contract to play in such a bad market as Milwaukee is in. as if Sabathia choices were going to be "1. the glitz and hometown of Los Angeles, 2. the biggest market in the world in NY to play for the Yankees or 3. Milwaukee."

Chief Rum · 12-16-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lungs

I hope this terrorist is on the first ship to Guantanamo where he should be locked up and the key thrown away.

As long as he is also fed daily his cock meat sandwich, all will be well.

Dutch · 12-16-2008, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

No, that would have been this man:

SI

Hillary Clinton?

lungs · 12-16-2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Seriously?

SI

Dude.

Neuqua · 12-16-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

ETA to first web game where you throw shoes at the president .... 10 minutes and counting

hxxp://www.t-enterprise.co.uk/flashgame/playgame.aspx?id=bushbootcamp

Fidatelo · 12-16-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

hxxp://www.t-enterprise.co.uk/flashgame/playgame.aspx?id=bushbootcamp

Am I the only one that had to play this 3 times before I understood I was supposed to shoot at the shoes and not at the president?

Klinglerware · 12-16-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

Am I the only one that had to play this 3 times before I understood I was supposed to shoot at the shoes and not at the president?

dervack · 12-16-2008, 12:30 PM

The funnier comment with regards to shoes also comes from Bush. When someone asked if he knew what the guy said, he replied "No, but I saw his sole."

Neuqua · 12-16-2008, 12:37 PM

I enjoyed Subby's post.

SFL Cat · 12-16-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

No, that would have been this man:

SI

Actually if someone had thrown a shoe at Cheney, this would have been his reaction...

Autumn · 12-18-2008, 03:22 PM

Yeah, that whole thing is pretty surreal. The fact that Bush just stood back up straight after the first one. You would think after 8 years of being president you'd be more paranoid than that.

Did anybody notice this guy taking his shoes off? Or did he bring extras. Imagine sitting next to him and watching this reporter untying his shoes. I'd be giving him some dirty looks.

12-15-2008, 09:35 AM	#54
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12-15-2008, 02:52 PM	#72
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12-15-2008, 03:24 PM	#74
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	By the way, clearly the correct play here would be to lob the first shoe high into the air, then throw the chin music with the second one when Bush is looking up. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

12-15-2008, 03:31 PM	#75
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12-15-2008, 03:43 PM	#77
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12-15-2008, 09:56 AM	#58
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	First I agree with the props to Bush for his move. I do see the security issue as troubling though. I've seen longer clips as well and the Secret Service does move in. I'm willing to give the Secret Service a little break here since presumably the journalists entering were screened for weapons and so their guard was placed differently than in a more public event. Either that or Secret Service agents have to take bullets for the President but not shoes .

12-15-2008, 10:13 AM	#59
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	That's the way I saw it: he's in the Green Zone, in a small, controlled room with pre-screened (and presumably well known) journalists. The threat level wasn't very high (shoes notwithstanding).

12-15-2008, 12:37 PM	#60
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	I hope this terrorist is on the first ship to Guantanamo where he should be locked up and the key thrown away.

12-15-2008, 01:08 PM	#62
Fighter of Foo College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA	Sadly, there's been infinitely more coverage of the Illinois governor than this: http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=305735 "On February 7, 2002, President George W. Bush made a written determination that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which would have afforded minimum standards for humane treatment, did not apply to al Qaeda or Taliban detainees. Following the President’s determination, techniques such as waterboarding, nudity, and stress positions, used in SERE training to simulate tactics used by enemies that refuse to follow the Geneva Conventions, were authorized for use in interrogations of detainees in U.S. custody."... "The abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib in late 2003 was not simply the result of a few soldiers acting on their own. Interrogation techniques such as stripping detainees of their clothes, placing them in stress positions, and using military working dogs to intimidate them appeared in Iraq only after they had been approved for use in Afghanistan and at GTMO. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s December 2, 2002 authorization of aggressive interrogation techniques and subsequent interrogation policies and plans approved by senior military and civilian officials conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees in U.S. military custody. What followed was an erosion in standards dictating that detainees be treated humanely." They deserve to have a hell of a lot more than shoes thrown at them.

12-15-2008, 01:37 PM	#66
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	my favorite part of this was the cnn main page, that added "in their culture throwing your shoes is a sign of disrespect." they are SO different from us!!

12-15-2008, 01:58 PM	#70
PLD3009 n00b Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cumberland, England	Bush must have plenty of shoes why didnt this guy throw something at him Bush would have found more useful like a brain perhaps?

12-15-2008, 03:40 PM	#76
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I just can't see a day when there's nothing left to add to this thread.

12-15-2008, 04:10 PM	#78
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12-15-2008, 04:26 PM	#79
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i like how the Iraqi minister standing next to Bush gave one of those half attempts to block the 2nd shoe, much like when you're standing in an elivator and the doors are closing and someone is shouting "hold the doors" but since you don't want to be late you make that awkward gesture as if you were going to press the button to open the door but Oh Damn! it's too late, the doors closed. i haven't seen such a half-hearted attempt since Milwaukee offered Sabathia a below competitive contract to play in such a bad market as Milwaukee is in. as if Sabathia choices were going to be "1. the glitz and hometown of Los Angeles, 2. the biggest market in the world in NY to play for the Yankees or 3. Milwaukee."

12-16-2008, 12:30 PM	#86
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12-18-2008, 03:22 PM	#89
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Yeah, that whole thing is pretty surreal. The fact that Bush just stood back up straight after the first one. You would think after 8 years of being president you'd be more paranoid than that. Did anybody notice this guy taking his shoes off? Or did he bring extras. Imagine sitting next to him and watching this reporter untying his shoes. I'd be giving him some dirty looks.

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