OT - Another grammar venting thread

[dawgfan]

Is a 10" vibrator really discrete?

[QuikSand]

*winces*

It's discrete (separable) from the lipstick tube next to it in the handbag, but at its nearly-colossal length it's probably not exactly discreet, you're right.

[Franklinnoble]

Save the colossal 10-inch vibrator!

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by albionmoonlight
When someone says "She gave the book to Robert and I."

This mistake gets me more than "Me and Robert went to the store."

The way to learn ya this 'un correctly () is to simply remove the other person from the sentence. If it makes sense, it's correct; if not, you've got it wrong:

She gave the book to I.

Me went to the store to buy cookies. Me love cookies.

Unless you are the Cookie Monster, those are clearly wrong, and no one would form those sentences that way.

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by QuikSand I hereby grant license to anyone who wishes to vent about grammar to do so here in this thread, without anyone being called a dick except me.

Do we have license to call Sky Dog a dick since he started using his authority?

Or do we just get to make statements like "Eye want too sea you're hed exploud"?

Also, Kickstand, should I point out that typos hurt your credibility. O, an' ura dick.

SI

[dawgfan]

Originally posted by QuikSand
*winces*

It's discrete (separable) from the lipstick tube next to it in the handbag, but at its nearly-colossal length it's probably not exactly discreet, you're right.

Hehehe, gotcha.

[dawgfan]

Irregardless of some previous post's (alot of witch were to innecessary) I think weve taken grammar for granite. My friends and me think less posters aught to pay to much attention too this stuff - their not real discrete in being anal-attentive. That said, its a mute point - the dominate attitude is to just say its a typo. Or to blame it on Cincinatti...

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by dawgfan
Irregardless of some previous post's (alot of witch were to innecessary) I think weve taken grammar for granite. My friends and me think less posters aught to pay to much attention too this stuff - their not real discrete in being anal-attentive. That said, its a mute point - the dominate attitude is to just say its a typo. Or to blame it on Cincinatti...

I'm pretty sure I don't want to see you and your friends when they are hanging around being anal-attentive.

SI

[CAsterling]

Originally posted by sterlingice
I'm pretty sure I don't want to see you and your friends when they are hanging around being anal-attentive.

SI

Oh boy, I just read the Sodomite post, and the next one I read contains this line. I can forsee GLAAD taking an interest in FOFC future posts

[dawgfan]

OK, I just saw a frequent misspelling that has been bugging me lately - rediculous.

Seems like many of these grammar faux pas are the result of someone spelling a word like they hear it pronounced. The difference in pronunciation between "dominant" and "dominate" is subtle for many people, thus it's not surprising to see this word misused/misspelled often. Same thing with "taking something for granite". The above case is another example - for some people it may seem more appropriate to spell the word with an "e", associating that letter more with the sound "eh" or "ee" than the letter "i", which they may associate more with the sound "eye".

I'm a hypocrite of course, venting on a grammar mistake after spending so much time being a smart-ass in this thread...

[CamEdwards]

As far as grammar goes, I try and keep my verbage simple enough that I don't run the risk of butchered syntax.

Spelling, on the other hand...

definitely. I hate to spell that word. I spell it definately.

restaurant. Also hate it. I always spell it restaraunt.

anything ending in eous. I always throw an extra vowel or two in their. Courageouious.

[thesloppy]

Slightly off-topic, but there is a grammar mistake I actually miss. Whatever happened to the days of "I says"? That little gem was especially precious when overheard in it's redundant form as in (actual real-life quote):

Toofless lady: "I says to him, I says 'you can cum on me, but you can't piss on me'"

[kcchief19]

I'm a pretty big fan of dashes and semicolons -- as is evident from many of my posts -- so it bothers me when I see them misused. I'm sure I have occassionally misused them myself in casual situations. I am not a saint.

I had an editor for whom the word "also" was a hot button issue. She insisted that there was a certain position where also should always be in a sentence. I just don't remember where the position was. After years of searching for a corroborative source, I recently found an article at the University of Delaware Grammar Hotline that said you can pretty much put also any damn place you please.

I share an irritation with a fellow at work about acronyms versus initialism. An acronym is a word formed by combining initial letters or parts of words to create a new word, such as radar, scuba or NASA. Initialism is when a series of initial letters or parts of words are used to create an initial that does not form a word, such as FBI or FOFC.

[Kevin]

What pacifically are you guys getting at?

[Samdari]

Originally posted by QuikSand
On an unrlated note...

When you want to exalt your enthusiastic agreement with something someone just said, the phrase is:

"Hear! Hear!"

...and not "Here, here!"

Think of it as "Hey everyone, come hear what this guy just said."

thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou

look how much typing I saved by not including spaces!

[Ben E Lou]

Ahhh.....that reminds me of one that bugs this Southerner.

It is "Y'all" NOT "Ya'll", for crying out loud!!!

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Ahhh.....that reminds me of one that bugs this Southerner.

It is "Y'all" NOT "Ya'll", for crying out loud!!!

But this is something that's rarely written, isn't it? Unless you're trying to capture someone's dialect, like in a book or a real-life quote, that term shouldn't be anywhere near a piece of paper. I understand that people say it all the time, but like 'ain't,' it would not be appropriate to use it in a written sentence.

I hope kids aren't learning to use that type of slang in their written work.

[Ben E Lou]

I see it typed in e-mails, IM's and on message boards quite frequently, and it is nearly ALWAYS done incorrectly. Yes, I've also seen it in books done incorrectly as well. Damn yankee authors.

{walks away muttering under his breath that he's glad they freed the slaves, but now they need to stay out of our business....}

[Ben E Lou]

Dola--

Lewis Grizzard never, ever did it wrong in any of HIS books though, dadgummit!

[cuervo72]

I'd think "y'all" would be pretty easy, it's just a contraction of "you" and "all". In that sense, it would be more valid than "ain't", which really isn't a valid contraction (at least I can't figure out what the first word would be).

[Alf]

title
vs
titie

----

On the FOFC boards, it is a must to say I won four consecutive tities, in that case title does not apply

[sachmo71]

What the fuck is a frush?

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Ahhh.....that reminds me of one that bugs this Southerner.

It is "Y'all" NOT "Ya'll", for crying out loud!!!

I am very guilty of that one. I know that it's supposed to be "y'all", but I just like "ya'll" better. My sister always gets on my case about that one also..

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by sachmo71
What the fuck is a frush?

ROFLMBAO!

[KWhit]

Originally posted by sachmo71
What the fuck is a frush?

This quote comes up every time I play poker with my buddies.

Somehow it never gets old.

[digamma]

After reading that NCAA 2004 interview, I would say typing "Yea" when you mean "Yeah" is up there for me now.

[Simms]

Biggest pet peeves (aside from the already oft-mentioned its/it's, your/you're, and their/there/they're debacles):

"Irregardless" (previously mentioned), "anyways", and "towards" .... none are words in the (North American) English language.

"You've got..." (yes, as in "You've got mail!") It's redundant.

That said (sorry, Killebrew ), I'm a big fan of "that said" when used properly and in moderation. Very effective transition more often than not.

[primelord]

Originally posted by CamEdwards
anything ending in eous. I always throw an extra vowel or two in their. Courageouious.

I am guessing that was on purpose?

[korme]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Ahhh.....that reminds me of one that bugs this Southerner.

It is "Y'all" NOT "Ya'll", for crying out loud!!!

Thank you, SkyHick!

[scooper]

Originally posted by Simms


"Irregardless" (previously mentioned), "anyways", and "towards" .... none are words in the English language.

Not 100% true. "towards" is correct usage when speaking English in England, but not in the US.

[Simms]

Originally posted by scooper
Not 100% true. "towards" is correct usage when speaking English in England, but not in the US.

I stand corrected.

Edited for clarity.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by scooper
Not 100% true. "towards" is correct usage when speaking English in England, but not in the US.

And don't people in Canada (like Simms, eh?) generally follow the British conventions for proper English?

For heaven's sake, they say al-yoo-MIN-ee-um -- they have to be following somebody's lead.

[Simms]

Originally posted by QuikSand
And don't people in Canada (like Simms, eh?) generally follow the British conventions for proper English?

When writing, yes ("The centre of the harbour was ablaze with colour."). When speaking, we generally try to avoid it.

For heaven's sake, they say al-yoo-MIN-ee-um -- they have to be following somebody's lead.

I have never said (nor heard anybody up here say, save the occasional Brit transplant) "al-yoo-MIN-ee-um" in my life. If I did, I'd probably ask somebody nearby to kindly beat that pronunciation out of me, eh?

Hoser...

[Craptacular]

Originally posted by Kevin
What pacifically are you guys getting at?

Supposively, we gots to work on our grammar.

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by Craptacular
Supposively, we gots to work on our grammar.

That's gramma', ewe fool.

SI

[Airhog]

fo shizzle?

[JeeberD]

Why are we venting my Grammar? Did she crap in her Depends again?

[dawgfan]

Aaargh! From the Joe Morgan ESPN chat this afternoon (here is the link):

"They are not as dominate."

This is quickly growing as my biggest grammar pet-peeve...

[Killebrew]

Originally posted by Simms
That said (sorry, Killebrew ), I'm a big fan of "that said" when used properly and in moderation. Very effective transition more often than not.

Good ole' reliable "that said" - the intellectual form of "‘ya know". More annoying, misused, abused, overused, or generally useless words and phrases:
Weapons of mass destruction - What a freaking joke, we get the picture already. Honestly I can't understand why more people were not insulted by the overuse of this term about 6 months ago, a great example of a forced buzzword. It was getting to the point where saying it was like a politician saying "Hey you! This bad thing! Make Mongo mad!". The good news for those of us who get migraines watching the news is that most politicians won't dare utter the term these days. Hey, we're stupid but we're not that stupid for an extended length of time. Ahh the relief.
The big picture - I am using this phrase far too much these days, some one throw a boot at me. That said, when you look at the big picture the fact of the matter is that weapons of mass destruction is bad thing and make Mongo mad.
Make no mistake about it - Okay, picking on W. here but come on, where the hell does he pick up this shit? I guess it is all written for him so I should really complain about his choice of speech writers.
It's all good No it's not, at least not that phrase. What is good is the fact this 90's term is slowly dying out due to the show-your-age embarrassment that can result when the phrase is overused. Soon saying "It's all good" will be like saying "look boss, the plane, the plane!". A near banished phrase - it’s a good thing. Hmmm, better add "it’s a good thing" to the list.
The fact of the matter is ... It's fortunate only publicity hungry CNN talking head idiots parrot this phrase, because if anyone used that in conversation with me I would be forced to punch them silly. Still, you have to admire the audacity of some to overuse this phrase that is the grown up version of "I know you are but what am I".
But I digress - Fortunately this has not become a popular phrase to repeat ad nauseum. If it was I would probably have to jam a ballpoint pen in my eardrums.
I feel your pain - Just so the yahoo's of the FOFC don't flood my PM box with "You Dems always blah blah blah.." messages I'll add this Clinton gem. The world was saved some of it's serious overuse by quick witted SNL writers who made it a comedic term. Then the comedic form of the phrase was also over used.

Latest buzzwords in my office:
Migration - Nothing moves, it migrates. Our big office project the last few weeks has been the migration of an Oracle DB, and my boss recently asked us how the migration of the migration was going.
Process - Wow, I am falling victim to this one. I have processes running all the time, some of them are processing other processes, which themselves are processing other processes. We call all this processing a groups of processes. I need a vacation.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Simms
When writing, yes ("The centre of the harbour was ablaze with colour."). When speaking, we generally try to avoid it.

So, how do you avoid all the tricky British pronunciations in that sentence, then?

I have never said (nor heard anybody up here say, save the occasional Brit transplant) "al-yoo-MIN-ee-um" in my life. If I did, I'd probably ask somebody nearby to kindly beat that pronunciation out of me, eh?

Hmm - my mistake. I made the error or assuming that the one Canadian person I knew who spoke this word in my presence was representative of the whole lot. Thanks for the correction - you've done a lot for the nation in my eyes, you have.

Hoser...

And then I'm reminded again...