EURO FOFC commish thread - Page 2

3ric · 07-29-2003, 03:34 AM

I thought it was a 24 hour limit? I'll go check...

Alf · 07-29-2003, 05:16 AM

Time limit : since it is vacation time (and I haven't heard from Dirk saying he was on vacation), and week1 of the NFL is far away, I decide not to implement a time limit yet.

I am checking today Dirk status, if he doesn't respond, FFF will get back his team.

pim · 07-29-2003, 09:05 AM

any news from Dirk yet ?

Alf · 07-29-2003, 09:14 AM

Nope : I am going back to Fantastic Flying Froggies to offer him back a team

PS : pim, you have a PM

BreizhManu · 07-29-2003, 11:01 AM

give me his draft pick instead

MIJB#19 · 07-29-2003, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BreizhManu
give me his draft pick instead

yeah, right.
So you can have 3 of the top 13 picks.
You already have 2 first round selections.

Seriously though, I didn't want to interfere or say that Dirk should be stripped of his team, I was wondering wheter we have a time limits, wheter people want one andall.
Remembering last years'fiasco of having the wrong players on the wrong teams in the first week is not a thing to remember or put back on topic... Sorry for doing so...

MIJB#19 · 07-29-2003, 12:32 PM

Dola, Dirk and Ryan S haven't joined the Yahoo! league yet.

3ric · 07-29-2003, 12:43 PM

I'm in favor of a time limit, of about 5-6 hours, then you get the best available player automatically. That has to be the best solution if you can't be bothered to set a pre-draft.

BreizhManu · 07-29-2003, 03:57 PM

well for me a 12 hours time limit would be better, but mainly for tommorrow since I go to my parent's house.

The only thing that pisses me off is that i'm only one pick away from really starting my draft

pim · 07-31-2003, 02:22 AM

I'm Ok with time limit but I think 6 hours is a bit short, especially when the guy before you made his choice in the middle of the night !!

PS : Alf, is your house done ?

Darkiller · 07-31-2003, 02:51 AM

guys,
I go on vacations tomorow morning (friday) and comeback on friday 15th.
I'll try to load my pre-draft at the max tonight so that it picks for me when my turn comes and avoids wasting everyone's time.
I hope it'll go for the best...fingers crossed. I'm really motivated to be back in the Euro FOFC Fantasy league.

I don't think my brother will be able to do anything for me..

fantastic flying froggies · 07-31-2003, 03:27 AM

Guys, I PM'ed Alf to let him know I 'd take Dirk's place (even if I get to draft last...)

How do I draft now ?

I guess you guys would like to move on now...

ps: thanks for taking all the good RBs in front of me...

Darkiller · 07-31-2003, 03:46 AM

Don't worry, the fun part of this is the after-draft trades between clubs.
I, for one, love trades so you may get you dream come true since I have Ladainian Tomlinson, the draft's #1 overall pick.

Not to say that I will indeed pull the trigger and trade him but I'm always interested in proposals and if anything real good comes up, I would have no problem parting ways with my player, especially a RB.

in summary :
1- I'm glad to have LT on my team and I think he's worthy of being the #1 pick.
2 - That doesn't mean at all that he's "untradable" later on.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-31-2003, 03:55 AM

I thought you were going away on holiday ?

Go to Portugal !

MIJB#19 · 07-31-2003, 04:21 AM

time limit? My guess is 24 hours should be enough. This covers middle of the night problems and also covers possible other pproblems.

Or, if everybody sets up pre draft selections, this draft will be over before the Minnesota Vikings starting running back is named.

Darkiller · 07-31-2003, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantastic flying froggies
I thought you were going away on holiday ?

Go to Portugal !

that's tomorow morning

gotta bear with me for a few more hours lol

fantastic flying froggies · 07-31-2003, 08:14 AM

Haven't heard back from Alf yet, so I don't really know if i'm really in or not.

pim · 07-31-2003, 08:44 AM

I guess his second daughter take all of his time !

fantastic flying froggies · 07-31-2003, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pim
I guess his second daughter take all of his time !

I've only got 1 but she takes up a lot of my time !

pim · 07-31-2003, 09:37 AM

Yeah, I know what you mean, I've got 1 too

fantastic flying froggies · 07-31-2003, 10:59 AM

Well, it looks like Dirk is back.

So once again, have a nice season and good luck to you all !

(funny thing is I would have draft James as well in that position...)

Alf · 07-31-2003, 04:18 PM

Sorry guys. Being at our new house all day again (as pim said). Add 2 daughters to that and I can't even connect regularly. Hopefully, I have 3 days at work next week, so I'll have a bit more time

.

Time limit : since most everyone is on vacation or is going to go on vacation, I won't set a timer until August 15th. At that time, I will enforce a 24 hour time limit. I'll decrease it if I see we ran short of time. Kickoff is still in 35 days, so we have enough time (for now).

FFF : I couldn't connect earlier today. Seems Dirk is back (I'll try to contact him).

To all : I need everybody vacation time (and internet availability), thanks. I'll post the info when I have them all

pim · 08-01-2003, 02:16 AM

Ok
I'm in vacation the last 2 weeks of August ( from the 15th) but I'll try stay around an internet access during that time
(I'll say once a day)
Anyway the draft should be almost done by this time

3ric · 08-01-2003, 02:45 AM

I should be available every day, my vacation is almost over (tre days left out of four weeks, bo-hoo)

MIJB#19 · 08-01-2003, 04:26 AM

I'll be searching for a solution for the draft during my absence.
I would pre draft, if it wasn't for all 16 rounds, meaning I'd have to put in over 250 names in the 16th round

pim · 08-06-2003, 03:31 AM

And now ?
We all have to wait the 15th and the darkiller's return ?

MIJB#19 · 08-06-2003, 12:57 PM

I hope not...
Or else I set up 14 rounds of predrafting for nothing

Just a reminder, I'll be on vacation from the 8th until the 17th.

pim · 08-07-2003, 01:51 AM

I hope not...
or else I'll have to set up 13 rounds of predrafting

Alf · 08-15-2003, 06:50 PM

bump

I still need to know CK#12, Critch, Ryan S & Dirk availability. All other guys are available when MIJB comes back on Augsut 16th. So the draft would resume with a 24 hour time limit.

Critch · 08-15-2003, 07:39 PM

I'm completely available, no plans to go anywhere or do anything for the foreseeable future, and I'll probably be doing nothing after the foreseeable future too.

MIJB#19 · 08-17-2003, 07:13 AM

1-time winner, reporting for duty.
Though I think I can sit out the draft without doing anything, since I set up 14 rounds of predrafting...

pim · 08-17-2003, 12:59 PM

I'm thinking of charging Darkiller for the cost of my internet access at home since I spent tose last 15 days at work to wait for nothing !!
I'll have do draft from home now I'm on vacation

Darkiller · 08-18-2003, 03:54 AM

sorry for that.
I'm back.

Darkiller · 08-18-2003, 04:07 AM

..and pick just made : WR Torry Holt to complement Peyton Manning and the #1 overall pick Ladainian Tomlinson.

Alf · 08-18-2003, 09:17 AM

CK#12, Ryan S & Dirk still missing to report. I am going to contact Elven Knights. As soon as I have heard from everybody, I'll set a 24 hour time limit. And, I will put it at last Wednesday August 20 on place.

Alf

Dirk · 08-19-2003, 01:39 AM

Hi,

I'll be on vacation from August 28th till September 8th. :-(
It was a short-dated decision because my wife had a surgery.

With two sons (8 & 6), a wife with a surgery and a lot of work at work and at home it's a hard time.

Ciao, Dirk

Alf · 08-19-2003, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirk
Hi,

I'll be on vacation from August 28th till September 8th. :-(
It was a short-dated decision because my wife had a surgery.

With two sons (8 & 6), a wife with a surgery and a lot of work at work and at home it's a hard time.

Ciao, Dirk

Shit !

Dirk, will you be available to draft, or do we need to find a replacement drafter ?

3ric · 08-19-2003, 12:03 PM

For the record:
I'm pathetic at drafting a fantasy football team.

I keep forgetting to set my auto-draft choices properly and as a result I'm getting what must be history's weirdest team after four rounds of drafting:

Vick, Michael ATL QB
Staley, Duce PHI RB
Owens, Terrell SFO WR
Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE

An injured QB, a holdout RB and two pretty damn good pass receivers... excuse me while I go hit myself with a large brick.

Darkiller · 08-19-2003, 12:47 PM

Well OWENS is the man 3ric... ;-)

MIJB#19 · 08-19-2003, 02:26 PM

1 week ago, I thibnk landing Vick, Owens and Gonzalez would be called a 99% sure fantasy football victory.

Good thing I landed Shockey, M.Faulk and William Green.

MIJB#19 · 08-19-2003, 02:30 PM

Dola
Stealing Vick, Owens and Gonzalez with picks 11, 14 and 38 is really amazing.

MIJB#19 · 08-19-2003, 03:26 PM

Dola.
I drafted the Buccaneers defense to make sure 3ric won't and doesn't clinch the title in the top 5 rounds of the draft...

3ric · 08-19-2003, 03:30 PM

I still think I need a RB and a QB before I can talk about winning some games...

MIJB#19 · 08-19-2003, 03:56 PM

At least your team can play basketball by now, with Gonzalez and Owens...
Last year, I dumped both from the top of my draftboards because both were concidering NFL retirements to become NBA annonymi.

Darkiller · 08-20-2003, 04:33 AM

I just selected Green Bay's Javon Walker to play alonside Torry Holt...this is risky but sounds promising.

Also picked Philly's Defense just after.

Alf · 08-20-2003, 04:40 AM

August 20th status : Timer Limit ON now

The timer limit is going to be set today (24 hour time limit). I will be disabling it on WE (if I remember) because someone doesn't have internet access on WEs. I will also let the computer pick if an owner misses a pick (hopefully not), it will pick out of Myfantasyleague average draft , so that would still be OK. If an owner doesn't get to me after missing one pick, I will look to replace him, but I don't think we are going to need that.

Vacation dates

Code:

Alf		Alf Hard Cats		always available	
MIJB#19		Maasluis Anglers	always available
CK# 12		R&D Devils		always except WE	
Critch		Glasgow Kilties		always available	
Ryan S		Ayr Raiders		always available	
3ric		Goteborg Goblins	always available	
Dirk		Ruhrpott Miners		Auguts 28th-Sept 8th
Darkiller	Paris Musketeers	always available
BreizhManu	An Oriant Stars		always available	
Ripoux		Elven Knights		always available
Pim		Garden Dwarves		always available	
Geg		Trolls			August 28th-Sept 15th

So we need to finish before August 28th, that is in 9 days => Thursday of next week.

*--*--*--*--*--*--*

3ric · 08-22-2003, 07:10 AM

Bumping because Ayr Raiders are on the clock in the draft...

MIJB#19 · 08-22-2003, 01:18 PM

Alf, what does the comment in the Draft League draft overview mean?Do we need someone to help draft for Dirk immediatly?

Alf · 08-23-2003, 03:17 AM

Timer is off for the Week-end

However, you are still more than welcome(d) to make your selections. We are now entering round 7.

MIJB : Dirk has made pre-drafts for several rounds and has also given me hints on whom to select. That should be OK. However, he doesn't know if he'll be available to select his starting lineups, we might need someone (fantastic flying froggies is first on the waiting list) to step in. No hurries yet !

MIJB#19 · 08-23-2003, 04:27 AM

Alf, I noticed the predrafted selections.
That was after I posted my question(s0.

Let's just hope we can have a fun ff season and see a lot of teams compete for the playoffs through a late stage. (Well, except my team of course, I want my team to clinch a playoff spot after a week or 10

)

07-29-2003, 05:16 AM	#52
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Time limit : since it is vacation time (and I haven't heard from Dirk saying he was on vacation), and week1 of the NFL is far away, I decide not to implement a time limit yet. I am checking today Dirk status, if he doesn't respond, FFF will get back his team. __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

07-29-2003, 09:14 AM	#54
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Nope : I am going back to Fantastic Flying Froggies to offer him back a team PS : pim, you have a PM __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

07-29-2003, 12:43 PM	#58
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	I'm in favor of a time limit, of about 5-6 hours, then you get the best available player automatically. That has to be the best solution if you can't be bothered to set a pre-draft. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

07-31-2003, 02:51 AM	#61
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	guys, I go on vacations tomorow morning (friday) and comeback on friday 15th. I'll try to load my pre-draft at the max tonight so that it picks for me when my turn comes and avoids wasting everyone's time. I hope it'll go for the best...fingers crossed. I'm really motivated to be back in the Euro FOFC Fantasy league. I don't think my brother will be able to do anything for me.. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

07-31-2003, 03:27 AM	#62
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Guys, I PM'ed Alf to let him know I 'd take Dirk's place (even if I get to draft last...) How do I draft now ? I guess you guys would like to move on now... ps: thanks for taking all the good RBs in front of me... __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-29-2003, 09:05 AM	#53
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	any news from Dirk yet ?

07-29-2003, 11:01 AM	#55
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	give me his draft pick instead

07-29-2003, 12:32 PM	#57
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Dola, Dirk and Ryan S haven't joined the Yahoo! league yet.

07-29-2003, 03:57 PM	#59
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	well for me a 12 hours time limit would be better, but mainly for tommorrow since I go to my parent's house. The only thing that pisses me off is that i'm only one pick away from really starting my draft

07-31-2003, 02:22 AM	#60
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	I'm Ok with time limit but I think 6 hours is a bit short, especially when the guy before you made his choice in the middle of the night !! PS : Alf, is your house done ?

07-31-2003, 03:46 AM	#63
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Don't worry, the fun part of this is the after-draft trades between clubs. I, for one, love trades so you may get you dream come true since I have Ladainian Tomlinson, the draft's #1 overall pick. Not to say that I will indeed pull the trigger and trade him but I'm always interested in proposals and if anything real good comes up, I would have no problem parting ways with my player, especially a RB. in summary : 1- I'm glad to have LT on my team and I think he's worthy of being the #1 pick. 2 - That doesn't mean at all that he's "untradable" later on. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

07-31-2003, 03:55 AM	#64
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	I thought you were going away on holiday ? Go to Portugal ! __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-31-2003, 04:21 AM	#65
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	time limit? My guess is 24 hours should be enough. This covers middle of the night problems and also covers possible other pproblems. Or, if everybody sets up pre draft selections, this draft will be over before the Minnesota Vikings starting running back is named.

07-31-2003, 08:14 AM	#67
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Haven't heard back from Alf yet, so I don't really know if i'm really in or not. __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-31-2003, 08:44 AM	#68
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	I guess his second daughter take all of his time !

07-31-2003, 09:37 AM	#70
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	Yeah, I know what you mean, I've got 1 too

07-31-2003, 10:59 AM	#71
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Well, it looks like Dirk is back. So once again, have a nice season and good luck to you all ! (funny thing is I would have draft James as well in that position...) __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-31-2003, 04:18 PM	#72
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Sorry guys. Being at our new house all day again (as pim said). Add 2 daughters to that and I can't even connect regularly. Hopefully, I have 3 days at work next week, so I'll have a bit more time . Time limit : since most everyone is on vacation or is going to go on vacation, I won't set a timer until August 15th. At that time, I will enforce a 24 hour time limit. I'll decrease it if I see we ran short of time. Kickoff is still in 35 days, so we have enough time (for now). FFF : I couldn't connect earlier today. Seems Dirk is back (I'll try to contact him). To all : I need everybody vacation time (and internet availability), thanks. I'll post the info when I have them all __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-01-2003, 02:16 AM	#73
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	Ok I'm in vacation the last 2 weeks of August ( from the 15th) but I'll try stay around an internet access during that time (I'll say once a day) Anyway the draft should be almost done by this time

08-01-2003, 02:45 AM	#74
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	I should be available every day, my vacation is almost over (tre days left out of four weeks, bo-hoo) __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC! Last edited by 3ric : 08-01-2003 at 02:46 AM.

08-01-2003, 04:26 AM	#75
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	I'll be searching for a solution for the draft during my absence. I would pre draft, if it wasn't for all 16 rounds, meaning I'd have to put in over 250 names in the 16th round

08-06-2003, 03:31 AM	#76
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	And now ? We all have to wait the 15th and the darkiller's return ?

08-06-2003, 12:57 PM	#77
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	I hope not... Or else I set up 14 rounds of predrafting for nothing Just a reminder, I'll be on vacation from the 8th until the 17th.

08-07-2003, 01:51 AM	#78
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	I hope not... or else I'll have to set up 13 rounds of predrafting Last edited by pim : 08-07-2003 at 01:52 AM.

08-15-2003, 06:50 PM	#79
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	bump I still need to know CK#12, Critch, Ryan S & Dirk availability. All other guys are available when MIJB comes back on Augsut 16th. So the draft would resume with a 24 hour time limit. __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-15-2003, 07:39 PM	#80
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I'm completely available, no plans to go anywhere or do anything for the foreseeable future, and I'll probably be doing nothing after the foreseeable future too.

08-17-2003, 07:13 AM	#81
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	1-time winner, reporting for duty. Though I think I can sit out the draft without doing anything, since I set up 14 rounds of predrafting...

08-17-2003, 12:59 PM	#82
pim n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Paris (france)	I'm thinking of charging Darkiller for the cost of my internet access at home since I spent tose last 15 days at work to wait for nothing !! I'll have do draft from home now I'm on vacation

08-18-2003, 03:54 AM	#83
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	sorry for that. I'm back. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

08-18-2003, 04:07 AM	#84
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	..and pick just made : WR Torry Holt to complement Peyton Manning and the #1 overall pick Ladainian Tomlinson. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

08-18-2003, 09:17 AM	#85
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	CK#12, Ryan S & Dirk still missing to report. I am going to contact Elven Knights. As soon as I have heard from everybody, I'll set a 24 hour time limit. And, I will put it at last Wednesday August 20 on place. Alf __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-19-2003, 01:39 AM	#86
Dirk n00b Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ruhr area, Germany	Hi, I'll be on vacation from August 28th till September 8th. :-( It was a short-dated decision because my wife had a surgery. With two sons (8 & 6), a wife with a surgery and a lot of work at work and at home it's a hard time. Ciao, Dirk

08-19-2003, 12:03 PM	#88
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	For the record: I'm pathetic at drafting a fantasy football team. I keep forgetting to set my auto-draft choices properly and as a result I'm getting what must be history's weirdest team after four rounds of drafting: Vick, Michael ATL QB Staley, Duce PHI RB Owens, Terrell SFO WR Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE An injured QB, a holdout RB and two pretty damn good pass receivers... excuse me while I go hit myself with a large brick. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

08-19-2003, 12:47 PM	#89
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Well OWENS is the man 3ric... ;-) __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

08-19-2003, 02:26 PM	#90
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	1 week ago, I thibnk landing Vick, Owens and Gonzalez would be called a 99% sure fantasy football victory. Good thing I landed Shockey, M.Faulk and William Green.