OT - US Cities puzzle - Page 2

Buzzbee · 09-09-2003, 03:20 PM

Florida? Tallahasse and Tampa? If we're only counting LEGAL citizens them Miami shouldn't count.

Chief Rum · 09-09-2003, 03:21 PM

California isn't necessarily out of it. Long Beach is big enough to possibly rival San Francisco, San Diego and Sacramento in population. You just wouldn't know it because it's trapped in the metropolis surrounding the #1 city.

CR

sooner333 · 09-09-2003, 03:21 PM

I'm fairly certain that Wyoming with Casper and Cheyenne is a correct answer.

Alabama, I'm fairly certain that Birmingham would be a top city, striking that.

I'm not for sure about Iowa, but Des Moines would be one, and I'm pretty sure that Davenport very well could be one.

Qwikshot · 09-09-2003, 03:23 PM

It's Seattle and Spokane...check out U.S. census bureau.

sabotai · 09-09-2003, 03:35 PM

If you want to use the 2000 census as the standard, it's fine by me. I was just offering up the most recent numbers.

I'm pretty sure the puzzle was made using the 2000 number anyway.

RPI-Fan · 09-09-2003, 03:46 PM

I think Ames may be bigger than Des Moines... (what I recall from a friend of my dad who works at UIowa)

Fonzie · 09-09-2003, 03:54 PM

I'm guessing the last few may end up being those small New England states with smallish "biggest" cities. The only one I'll hazard a guess at is Rhode Island: Providence and Pawtucket?

sabotai · 09-09-2003, 04:06 PM

Ok, so far we have (going by the 2000 census

) :

Washington - Seattle & Spokane
Wyoming - Cheyenne & Casper
Kentucky - Lexington & Louisville
Wisconsin - Milwaukee & Madison
Ohio - Cleveland & Columbus
Pennsylvania - Philadelphia & Pittsburgh
Geogia - Atlanta & Augusta
Hawaii - Honolulu & Hilo

One more....

Draft Dodger · 09-09-2003, 04:13 PM

how about Vermont?

Burlington, Bennington?

sabotai · 09-09-2003, 04:15 PM

No, several other cities are bigger than Bennington.

sabotai · 09-09-2003, 04:16 PM

RI isn't it either. Warwick is #2 there

Buzzbee · 09-09-2003, 04:29 PM

Virginia with Richmond and Roanoke?

Buzzbee · 09-09-2003, 04:39 PM

South Carolina with Charleston and Columbia?

henry296 · 09-09-2003, 04:40 PM

Norfolk is the largest city in VA.

Critch · 09-09-2003, 04:43 PM

According to something I found in the back of a tourist guide book for the South, the second largest population in Georgia is Columbus with 178k, then Savannah with 149k, then Augusta in 4th with 71k. This is 1990 figures, but Augusta must've got awfully big awfully quickly to be second now.

(n.b. I also found another state that had 1st and 2nd with the same letter in 1990, but since it's from a book, that's cheating so I'm not telling)

(dola n.b. looking back Fritz has already mentioned the state as being in, but it's not on the final list so far)

sabotai · 09-09-2003, 04:45 PM

Virginia, no. Chesapeake City and Norfolk come before Richmond and Poanoke.

And South Carolina...looking back through the thread I forgot to add it the list (we determined before it was.) My bad.

Washington - Seattle & Spokane
Wyoming - Cheyenne & Casper
Kentucky - Lexington & Louisville
Wisconsin - Milwaukee & Madison
Ohio - Cleveland & Columbus
Pennsylvania - Philadelphia & Pittsburgh
Geogia - Atlanta & Augusta
Hawaii - Honolulu & Hilo
South Carolina - Charleston & Columbia

There we have it.

Fritz · 09-09-2003, 06:37 PM

Virginia Beach is the largest city in Virginia. More importantly, nobody calls Chesapeake "Chesapeake City."

Fritz · 09-09-2003, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sabotai
RI isn't it either. Warwick is #2 there

beats out either Newport or Providence? you wouldn't get that driving through it.

Wolfpack · 09-09-2003, 09:36 PM

As of 2002 Census Estimate:

GA: Atlanta and Augusta
KY: Louisville and Lexington
OH: Columbus and Cleveland
PA: Philadelphia and Pittsburgh
SC: Columbia and Charleston
WI: Milwaukee and Madison
WY: Cheyenne and Casper

There is no incorporated population for Hilo (according to the Census website), though Hawaii County is treated as one unit and it is second to Honolulu in population. As noted earlier, Tacoma has passed Spokane in the last two years, removing Washington from the list, so technically, there's only eight. (Yes, it's a rather anal analysis, but I'm a geography buff.)

Buccaneer · 09-09-2003, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cuervo72
Where's Bucc when you need him....

Feeling very badly that I couldn't participate in this puzzle.

cuervo72 · 09-10-2003, 07:25 AM

Tacoma is demanding a recount...

QuikSand · 09-10-2003, 08:05 AM

The source that I saw was the "reader comments' section of Games magazine. (I have been accused of just typing out puzzles from Games before, but this is, I think, the first time I actually used one of their here)

The reader letter was pointing out that Augusta, GA is technically the second place city in Georgia, because it is formally listed as including an adjacent/surrounding county (Richland County?)-- thereby making it the ninth entry in their list.

So, I can verify that as originally stated the puzzle said eight states, and then Games acknowledged that Georgia qualified as well. For what that's worth. (But I don't have the back copy to verify the other eight)

Wolfpack · 09-10-2003, 12:48 PM

Yep. Augusta and Richland County are considered one unit by the Census Bureau. It enables them to leap past Columbus for second place. Rather similar to Nashville/Davidson County in Tennessee.

tucker342 · 09-10-2003, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fritz
Iowa:

Des Moins and either Davenport or Debuque

Cedar Rapids is bigger than Davenport and Debuque

tucker342 · 09-10-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RPI-Fan
I think Ames may be bigger than Des Moines... (what I recall from a friend of my dad who works at UIowa)

not even close. Des Moines is by far the largest city in the state(400,000 or so), I think Ames is smaller than Iowa City(around 75,000)... if not than it's pretty close

revrew · 09-11-2003, 08:33 AM

Like tucker, I can jump in and finalize the question about Iowa. NO.

Des Moines is Largest, followed by Cedar Rapids. The number 3 is over 100,000 less than the two big boys. And Ames (which I live not that far from), is a great town, but it's only about 60,000.

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sabotai
Washington - Seattle & Spokane
Wyoming - Cheyenne & Casper
Kentucky - Lexington & Louisville
Wisconsin - Milwaukee & Madison
Ohio - Cleveland & Columbus
Pennsylvania - Philadelphia & Pittsburgh
Geogia - Atlanta & Augusta
Hawaii - Honolulu & Hilo
South Carolina - Charleston & Columbia

There we have it.

As far as I'm concerned, this puzzle is solved - I think the list above does the job.

09-09-2003, 03:21 PM	#52
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09-09-2003, 03:23 PM	#54
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	It's Seattle and Spokane...check out U.S. census bureau. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

09-09-2003, 03:46 PM	#56
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I think Ames may be bigger than Des Moines... (what I recall from a friend of my dad who works at UIowa) __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

09-09-2003, 04:06 PM	#58
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Ok, so far we have (going by the 2000 census ) : Washington - Seattle & Spokane Wyoming - Cheyenne & Casper Kentucky - Lexington & Louisville Wisconsin - Milwaukee & Madison Ohio - Cleveland & Columbus Pennsylvania - Philadelphia & Pittsburgh Geogia - Atlanta & Augusta Hawaii - Honolulu & Hilo One more.... Last edited by sabotai : 09-09-2003 at 04:13 PM.

09-09-2003, 04:13 PM	#59
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	how about Vermont? Burlington, Bennington? __________________ Mile High Hockey

09-09-2003, 03:21 PM	#53
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	I'm fairly certain that Wyoming with Casper and Cheyenne is a correct answer. Alabama, I'm fairly certain that Birmingham would be a top city, striking that. I'm not for sure about Iowa, but Des Moines would be one, and I'm pretty sure that Davenport very well could be one.

09-09-2003, 03:35 PM	#55
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	If you want to use the 2000 census as the standard, it's fine by me. I was just offering up the most recent numbers. I'm pretty sure the puzzle was made using the 2000 number anyway.

09-09-2003, 03:54 PM	#57
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	I'm guessing the last few may end up being those small New England states with smallish "biggest" cities. The only one I'll hazard a guess at is Rhode Island: Providence and Pawtucket?

09-09-2003, 04:15 PM	#60
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	No, several other cities are bigger than Bennington.

09-09-2003, 04:16 PM	#61
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	RI isn't it either. Warwick is #2 there

09-09-2003, 04:29 PM	#62
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Virginia with Richmond and Roanoke? __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

09-09-2003, 04:39 PM	#63
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	South Carolina with Charleston and Columbia? __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

09-09-2003, 04:40 PM	#64
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Norfolk is the largest city in VA. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

09-09-2003, 04:43 PM	#65
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	According to something I found in the back of a tourist guide book for the South, the second largest population in Georgia is Columbus with 178k, then Savannah with 149k, then Augusta in 4th with 71k. This is 1990 figures, but Augusta must've got awfully big awfully quickly to be second now. (n.b. I also found another state that had 1st and 2nd with the same letter in 1990, but since it's from a book, that's cheating so I'm not telling) (dola n.b. looking back Fritz has already mentioned the state as being in, but it's not on the final list so far)

09-09-2003, 04:45 PM	#66
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Virginia, no. Chesapeake City and Norfolk come before Richmond and Poanoke. And South Carolina...looking back through the thread I forgot to add it the list (we determined before it was.) My bad. Washington - Seattle & Spokane Wyoming - Cheyenne & Casper Kentucky - Lexington & Louisville Wisconsin - Milwaukee & Madison Ohio - Cleveland & Columbus Pennsylvania - Philadelphia & Pittsburgh Geogia - Atlanta & Augusta Hawaii - Honolulu & Hilo South Carolina - Charleston & Columbia There we have it.

09-09-2003, 06:37 PM	#67
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	Virginia Beach is the largest city in Virginia. More importantly, nobody calls Chesapeake "Chesapeake City." __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

09-09-2003, 09:36 PM	#69
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	As of 2002 Census Estimate: GA: Atlanta and Augusta KY: Louisville and Lexington OH: Columbus and Cleveland PA: Philadelphia and Pittsburgh SC: Columbia and Charleston WI: Milwaukee and Madison WY: Cheyenne and Casper There is no incorporated population for Hilo (according to the Census website), though Hawaii County is treated as one unit and it is second to Honolulu in population. As noted earlier, Tacoma has passed Spokane in the last two years, removing Washington from the list, so technically, there's only eight. (Yes, it's a rather anal analysis, but I'm a geography buff.)

09-10-2003, 07:25 AM	#71
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Tacoma is demanding a recount... __________________ null

09-10-2003, 08:05 AM	#72
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	The source that I saw was the "reader comments' section of Games magazine. (I have been accused of just typing out puzzles from Games before, but this is, I think, the first time I actually used one of their here) The reader letter was pointing out that Augusta, GA is technically the second place city in Georgia, because it is formally listed as including an adjacent/surrounding county (Richland County?)-- thereby making it the ninth entry in their list. So, I can verify that as originally stated the puzzle said eight states, and then Games acknowledged that Georgia qualified as well. For what that's worth. (But I don't have the back copy to verify the other eight)

09-10-2003, 12:48 PM	#73
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Yep. Augusta and Richland County are considered one unit by the Census Bureau. It enables them to leap past Columbus for second place. Rather similar to Nashville/Davidson County in Tennessee.

09-11-2003, 08:33 AM	#76
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Like tucker, I can jump in and finalize the question about Iowa. NO. Des Moines is Largest, followed by Cedar Rapids. The number 3 is over 100,000 less than the two big boys. And Ames (which I live not that far from), is a great town, but it's only about 60,000. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

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