2007 NFL Draft - or Oakland Raiders looking great for #1 pick

[21C]

I updated the first post with the draft order after the end of the regular season. I hope it is all correct since I used an Excel file to calculate it.

It looks like there should be a coin flip to decide the 3rd and 4th picks since Cleveland and Tampa Bay had the same number of wins and the same strength of schedule. I don't know if there is any other tie-breaker considering Tampa Bay beat the Browns in Week 16 . . . just checked and head-to-head results don't factor in.

Final draft order is still subject to playoff results.

[Northwood_DK]

This is the list acording to Jim.

http://www.solecismic.com/playoff2006.php

2007 Amateur Draft Order
1. Oakland, 2-14, 142 SoS.
2. Detroit, 3-13, 134 SoS.
3. Cleveland, 4-12, 137 SoS*. Either this is a coin flip, or Cleveland holds the 3rd spot because Tampa Bay won the game between these teams.
3. Tampa Bay, 4-12, 137 SoS*.
5. Arizona, 5-11, 128.
6. Washington, 5-11, 131.
7. Minnesota, 6-10, 125.
8. Houston, 6-10, 129.
9. Miami, 6-10, 139.
10. Atlanta, 7-9, 117.
11. San Francisco, 7-9, 128.
12. Buffalo, 7-9, 147.
13. St. Louis, 8-8, 119.
14. Carolina, 8-8, 121.
15. Pittsburgh, 8-8, 127.
16. Green Bay, 8-8, 128.
17. Jacksonville, 8-8, 136.
18. Cincinnati, 8-8, 137.
19. Tennessee, 8-8, 146.
20. New York Giants, 8-8, 133**.
21. Denver, 9-7, 136.
22. Seattle (New England holds pick), 9-7, 116**.
23. Dallas, 9-7, 117**.
24. Kansas City, 9-7, 126**.
25. New Orleans, 10-6, 118.
26. New York Jets, 10-6, 120.
27. Philadelphia, 10-6, 122.
28. New England, 12-4, 127.
29. Indianapolis, 12-4, 128.
30. Chicago, 13-3, 110.
31. Baltimore, 13-3, 118.
32. San Diego, 14-2, 117.


Notes
* - Ties that can not be broken by opponents' records or conference tie-breakers are broken by coin flip.
** - Playoff teams are placed behind other teams in the draft-order tie-breaker. A team that goes further in the playoffs is placed behind other teams with the same record, as well.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Yes, the initial post is incorrect by putting Denver where it did. Jim has it right, because Denver is not in the playoffs it moves up ahead of the other 9-7 teams who made the playoffs, regardless of schedule strength.

[21C]

No problem. I wasn't aware of the minutiae of the tie-breakers so I'll defer to Jim's draft order.

I was just trying to get some idea of who was picking when.

[wade moore]

I've heard a lot of stuff about the possibility that Washington has to trade picks with Denver. Anyone know the details around that?

[st.cronin]

Another WAG

1. Oakland, 2-14, 142 SoS. BRADY QUINN
2. Detroit, 3-13, 134 SoS. JAMARCUS RUSSELL
3. Cleveland, 4-12, 137 SoS*. JOE THOMAS
3. Tampa Bay, 4-12, 137 SoS*. CALVIN JOHNSON
5. Arizona, 5-11, 128. JAKE LONG(I am guessing he will come out)
6. Washington, 5-11, 131. LEON HALL
7. Minnesota, 6-10, 125. ADRIAN PETERSON
8. Houston, 6-10, 129. MARSHAUN LYNCH (I am guessing Brian Brohm does not come out)
9. Miami, 6-10, 139. GAINES ADAMS
10. Atlanta, 7-9, 117. QUENTIN MOSES
11. San Francisco, 7-9, 128. JEFF SAMARDZIA
12. Buffalo, 7-9, 147. REGGIE NELSON
13. St. Louis, 8-8, 119. SAM BAKER
14. Carolina, 8-8, 121. MICHAEL GRIFFIN
15. Pittsburgh, 8-8, 127. ALAN BRANCH
16. Green Bay, 8-8, 128. TED GINN JR
17. Jacksonville, 8-8, 136. QUINN PITTCOCK
18. Cincinnati, 8-8, 137. BRANDON MERRIWEATHE
19. Tennessee, 8-8, 146. FRANK OKAM
20. New York Giants, 8-8, 133**. DARRELE REVIS
21. Denver, 9-7, 136. LARON LANDRY
22. Seattle (New England holds pick), 9-7, 116**. MARCUS MCAULEY
23. Dallas, 9-7, 117**. PAUL POSLUSZNY
24. Kansas City, 9-7, 126**. JUSTIN BLALOCK
25. New Orleans, 10-6, 118. PATRICK WILLIS
26. New York Jets, 10-6, 120. KENNY IRONS
27. Philadelphia, 10-6, 122. KEVIN KOLB
28. New England, 12-4, 127. DWAYNE JARRETT
29. Indianapolis, 12-4, 128. MARCUS THOMAS
30. Chicago, 13-3, 110. DREW STANTON
31. Baltimore, 13-3, 118. JOE STALEY
32. San Diego, 14-2, 117. PAUL WILLIAMS

Take it apart, boys.

[bulletsponge]

with the 7th pick, the Vikes could get someone good, unlike last year

[Booj]

Wow... The Bills really helped themselves by losing to the Ravens... they would have dropped to the end of the 8-8 teams due to SOS...

I don't see them taking a QB like the first mock draft said.. I think Losman proved himself in the last part of the season. I wouldn't mind them picking up some O-line help of a DB to replace Clements who, it seems, inevitably will leave as a FA. Let's just hope they don't go off the board to do that (see: Donte Whitner)

[Vinatieri for Prez]

It's rumored that both Nate Clements and Adalius Thomas will be signing for the Patriots this year, so they will have no need for the likes of Mcauley or any LB you might be thinking of.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I've heard a lot of stuff about the possibility that Washington has to trade picks with Denver. Anyone know the details around that?

Not exactly. Washington has to give up the equivalent of a high 3rd round pick to Denver, IIRC. Something to the effect of 300 points on a value chart. Basically it was implyed that if the Skins drafted 20th, and the Broncos 25th, that they could swap picks.

A report by the Rocky Mountain News on Tuesday said that Denver
would receive Washington's first- and third-round picks if the
Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos this
season. If Washington finishes with a better mark, Denver would
receive third- and fourth-round picks.

From an ESPN article. I believe they have it phrased incorrectly, though, as I think the Skins will end up sending out the 3rd and 4th rounders. Cause the difference between where the 2 teams draft in the first round is ginormous.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Another WAG


15. Pittsburgh, 8-8, 127. ALAN BRANCH


Take it apart, boys.

I doubt they draft a 4/3 DT, dude seems like he would be too big to play 3/4 DE. And they don't need a NT.

My guess is they take a ILB/OLB like Willis or Posluszny, or some OLineman.

[lcjjdnh]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Another WAG

1. Oakland, 2-14, 142 SoS. BRADY QUINN
2. Detroit, 3-13, 134 SoS. JAMARCUS RUSSELL
3. Cleveland, 4-12, 137 SoS*. JOE THOMAS
3. Tampa Bay, 4-12, 137 SoS*. CALVIN JOHNSON
5. Arizona, 5-11, 128. JAKE LONG(I am guessing he will come out)
6. Washington, 5-11, 131. LEON HALL
7. Minnesota, 6-10, 125. ADRIAN PETERSON
8. Houston, 6-10, 129. MARSHAUN LYNCH (I am guessing Brian Brohm does not come out)
9. Miami, 6-10, 139. GAINES ADAMS
10. Atlanta, 7-9, 117. QUENTIN MOSES
11. San Francisco, 7-9, 128. JEFF SAMARDZIA
12. Buffalo, 7-9, 147. REGGIE NELSON
13. St. Louis, 8-8, 119. SAM BAKER
14. Carolina, 8-8, 121. MICHAEL GRIFFIN
15. Pittsburgh, 8-8, 127. ALAN BRANCH
16. Green Bay, 8-8, 128. TED GINN JR
17. Jacksonville, 8-8, 136. QUINN PITTCOCK
18. Cincinnati, 8-8, 137. BRANDON MERRIWEATHE
19. Tennessee, 8-8, 146. FRANK OKAM
20. New York Giants, 8-8, 133**. DARRELE REVIS
21. Denver, 9-7, 136. LARON LANDRY
22. Seattle (New England holds pick), 9-7, 116**. MARCUS MCAULEY
23. Dallas, 9-7, 117**. PAUL POSLUSZNY
24. Kansas City, 9-7, 126**. JUSTIN BLALOCK
25. New Orleans, 10-6, 118. PATRICK WILLIS
26. New York Jets, 10-6, 120. KENNY IRONS
27. Philadelphia, 10-6, 122. KEVIN KOLB
28. New England, 12-4, 127. DWAYNE JARRETT
29. Indianapolis, 12-4, 128. MARCUS THOMAS
30. Chicago, 13-3, 110. DREW STANTON
31. Baltimore, 13-3, 118. JOE STALEY
32. San Diego, 14-2, 117. PAUL WILLIAMS

Take it apart, boys.

Long has already announced he is staying for his senior season.

[st.cronin]

Ok, so assuming Long doesn't change his mind:

1. Oakland - Brady Quinn
2. Detroit - JaMarcus Russell
3. Cleveland - Joe Thomas
4. Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson

Who does Arizona take here? O-line, I would guess, but I don't know who would be rated highly enough for them to take.

[Surtt]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

with the 7th pick, the Vikes could get someone good, unlike last year

Chad Greenway?

[Young Drachma]

JEFF SAMARDZIJA got a pretty big contract from the Cubs, his football career will be...secondary? Or maybe he'll pull a Deion Sanders.

[Greyroofoo]

The Lions need to take a receiver, considering that most of their other first round receivers didn't pan out.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

The Lions need to take a receiver, considering that most of their other first round receivers didn't pan out.

After watching Calvin Johnson today, I would almost be happy if they did.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

JEFF SAMARDZIJA got a pretty big contract from the Cubs, his football career will be...secondary? Or maybe he'll pull a Deion Sanders.

It really depends where he gets drafted in the NFL. His earning potential in baseball may well be much higher, considering what mediocre pitchers have gotten this offseason. I like him a lot, but unless you are sure he's giving up baseball, I can't see drafting him on the first day.

[Atocep]

Samardzija was drafted by the Cubs mostly on rep. His numbers and talent really aren't that great. He has a much, much better chance making in the NFL than he does making it as a major league pitcher.

[Dunleavy]

1. Oakland...QB...Jamarcus Russell...LSU
-Radiers love a good prospect, here a big, tall, stong armed QB thats right up their alley

2. Detriot...QB...Brady Quinn...Notre Dame
-honestly i dont rate Quinn much higher then someone like a David Carr from a few years back

*side note rant* why is there a coin flip for the 3rd pick??!??!?!? Tampa beat the Browns therefore the Browns get the 3rd pick period

3. Cleveland...OT...Joe Thomas...Wisconsin
-the Browns will return with a top 3 pick next year and get that QB

4. Tampa...WR...Calvin Johnson...G.Tech
-offensive coach looking for some more offense

5. Arizona...Best Defensive Player

[dime]

I have never been super impressed with Adrian Peterson...I think Drew Stanton will end up as a top 10 pick a'la Jay Cutler. Greg Olsen could sneak into the bottom of the 1st round, very athletic TE.

[digamma]

Calvin Johnson's press conference is at noon today. I put it at 95% for declaring for the draft. Still, there's 5% of me that holds out hope...

[cartman]

The Titans have a chance to be a really scary team in a couple of years. They have 11 picks in this year's draft, and will be over $40 million below the cap this season.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by digamma

Calvin Johnson's press conference is at noon today. I put it at 95% for declaring for the draft. Still, there's 5% of me that holds out hope...

For whatever reason...I'm thinking he announces that he stays.

[Young Drachma]

Quinn has told the Browns he wants to play for them.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Logan

For whatever reason...I'm thinking he announces that he stays.

The 95% of me was right. Good luck, CJ. Please let someone other than the Raiders take him.

[Celeval]

Ah well. We'll miss you, Calvin.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by digamma

The 95% of me was right. Good luck, CJ. Please let someone other than the Raiders take him.

I was being completely selfish when I said that...I know there's no chance the Niners could get him this year, but was hoping for a miracle next year. I think he's gonna be incredible.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by digamma

The 95% of me was right. Good luck, CJ. Please let someone other than the Raiders take him.

I'll be very surprised if the Raiders don't take JaMarcus Russell (which I'm unhappy about as a fan of his.)

[John Galt]

Originally Posted by digamma

The 95% of me was right. Good luck, CJ. Please let someone other than the Raiders take him.

I have little doubt that he will be a proud member of the Detroit Lions next year. It is his destiny.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by John Galt

I have little doubt that he will be a proud member of the Detroit Lions next year. It is his destiny.

I think he'd have to report in as a tackle eligible on each play, since I'm pretty sure the Lions are out of numbers in the wide receiver range...

[timmynausea]

I somehow missed this thread until now. I think reading "Oakland Raiders" in the title forces my mind to just kind of shut off.

Anyway, one guy I'm going to be keeping an eye on is Louisville WR Mario Urrutia. If he goes pro, he'll be the 2nd best WR in this class, IMO.

Also I'm really really hoping the Lions don't end up with Brady Quinn. I don't think he'll ever be that great.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by cartman

I think he'd have to report in as a tackle eligible on each play, since I'm pretty sure the Lions are out of numbers in the wide receiver range...

No. They still have #80 available. It did belong to second overall pick Charles Rogers, but he's no longer with the Lions. Or in the league. It was worn by UDFA DeVale Ellis, yes that DeVale Ellis, this year, but I'm sure if, no, when the Lions draft Johson, they'll cut Ellis.

Mike Williams' #88 might also be available come draft day.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by timmynausea

Also I'm really really hoping the Lions don't end up with Brady Quinn. I don't think he'll ever be that great.

Yes. Brady Quinn going to the Lions would make me very sad and unhappy. I don't think it will happen though.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by timmynausea

Also I'm really really hoping the Lions don't end up with Brady Quinn. I don't think he'll ever be that great.

Seems like the obvious pick for the Lions then. A bust.

[Eaglesfan27]

Brady Quinn and Roy Williams are tearing it up in 2011 in my FOF dynasty

[VPI97]

Jeff Samardzija decides to give up football

[Warhammer]

He's a dumbass. It is much harder to make it in baseball, and he would be a first rounder in football and could make as much in his first contract.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

He's a dumbass. It is much harder to make it in baseball, and he would be a first rounder in football and could make as much in his first contract.

I'm not sure, but I think he just got way more guaranteed money from the Cubs than he had any chance of getting from the NFL.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

He's a dumbass. It is much harder to make it in baseball, and he would be a first rounder in football and could make as much in his first contract.

On a financial basis, there is zero way you can critcize this move.

[stevew]

If Samardzija doesn't pan out in 4-5 years of baseball, he still can probably pursue football at that time. Granted he would be a bit of a project, but being an athlete and hopefully staying in shape should help him. And the deal he got looks to be pretty sweet....especially if he makes the majors pretty quickly. I think anyways.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by stevew

If Samardzija doesn't pan out in 4-5 years of baseball, he still can probably pursue football at that time. Granted he would be a bit of a project, but being an athlete and hopefully staying in shape should help him. And the deal he got looks to be pretty sweet....especially if he makes the majors pretty quickly. I think anyways.

Or he can end up like Drew Henson .

[stevew]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Or he can end up like Drew Henson .

I think there is a world of difference between playing QB and WR. Hell, a local guy around here played minor league ball for 5 years. When he didn't pan out, he went back to college, rushed for like 7k yards and set the NCAA all division rushing mark. Managed to hang around the NFL long enough to get 10 years of free health care I believe.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Or he can end up like Drew Henson .

Yes. Rich enough to not care what anyone thinks about the career decisions he made.

[ISiddiqui]

You can say the same thing about Ryan Leaf.

[Logan]

Extremely wise move. Worst case scenario, the Cubs let him go after 3 or 4 years shows he can't hack it in baseball, and all they'll want is half the money back that they've guaranteed him in the remaining years. He goes to the NFL having already earned $8 million, signs a short deal for a couple million or so to be a project WR. As others have said, you have guys like Furrey who come out of nowhere at a somewhat later age, plus the Michael Lewises and Pete Hunters who come out of other professions entirely to play in the NFL.

And best case scenario...his original $10 million is nothing in comparison to what he makes if he's even an average ML pitcher. If he turns into a stud? Geez...all this for not having to be drilled by NFL linebackers and safeties? Where do I sign?

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Average MLB pitchers make Peyton Manning money. Enough said. Plus, he says baseball is his favorite sport. This is a no brainer for him.

[Julio Riddols]

To eliminate our national debt, tax baseball players 90 %. They would still be making millions after taxes, but the government would get about 3 or 4 billion a year probably just from that alone. Baseball WILL be the first sport to have a guy who signs a billion dollar contract.

[Logan]

Interesting math to come up with the total salaries of baseball players being $300 to $400 billion a year.

I'll join the bandwagon in complaining about their salaries when there's even an ounce of effort put into bitching about how much actors/actresses make.