ZFL Offseason / 2005 Draft - Page 2

mrsimperless · 08-26-2003, 03:43 PM

From what rev says it sounds like you guys should be skipping the first round prospects altogether and starting with the second round guys!

Or perhaps the prophecy cannot be avoided and these former 2nd rounders-now 1st rounders will all bust as well and no breakouts will be found. Ouch, now my head hurts...

revrew · 08-26-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by mrsimperless
From what rev says it sounds like you guys should be skipping the first round prospects altogether and starting with the second round guys!

Or perhaps the prophecy cannot be avoided and these former 2nd rounders-now 1st rounders will all bust as well and no breakouts will be found. Ouch, now my head hurts...

The first round is simply a higher stakes ballgame. Higher risk of losing out to a bust, but higher gain as well for those that don't. And the good news is that first round busts usually come into camp as a C or C+. They're not a total waste.

The second and third round players are mostly B and C+ guys. A few will surprise and become A players, but those that bust...are out of the league.

Most fourth rounders will be out of the league (except in cases of teams with severe holes) shortly, but then a very few will hang on to become B level players.

The trend I'm seeing through the drafts is that in the first round, if you're guy doesn't bust, he will be a star. In the second, only the breakouts or those surrounded with great players will be stars. In the third, you find your role players and hole-fillers. And so forth. At least, that's in a good, deep draft like this year.

sachmo71 · 08-26-2003, 10:36 PM

San Antonio takes OT U, now known as Alys Liston TwoRev.

Sorry about stalling guys. We have a "new internet policy" at work, and big brother is mad! I'll try to get on once in a while and not slow things down too much. Thanks!

NevStar · 08-27-2003, 09:32 AM

Albuquerque selects OLB q - Kearney

LA is on the clock.

Marmel · 08-27-2003, 09:36 AM

LA Selects:

WR N, now known as WR Ashton Kucher

NevStar · 08-27-2003, 09:38 AM

Shorty & JeeberD, clean out your inboxes.

If you couldn't figure it out, I'm looking to trade up in the 2nd round.

revrew · 08-27-2003, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by sachmo71
San Antonio takes OT U, now known as Alys Liston TwoRev.

Sorry about stalling guys. We have a "new internet policy" at work, and big brother is mad! I'll try to get on once in a while and not slow things down too much. Thanks!

Hey now! That's like the third player named after me in this round alone.

I'm beginning to think you guys don't like my commentary. I'll just be quiet now and crawl in a hole. Shhhh. No more talking, rev. Just let the boys have their fun. They don't want ZFL daddy around anymore. Sniff. Sniff. Never mind me! I'll just be over here in the corner. Won't say a word. Nope. Hey! Did you hear that noise? Wasn't me, though. Oh, no. I'm as silent as the grave. Nothin' comin' out of my pie-hole.

BTW...love the name, sachmo! Creative. Can I just call him "Alice"?

Katon · 08-27-2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by revrew
Hey now! That's like the third player named after me in this round alone.

You're the new JeeberD!

Swaggs · 08-27-2003, 12:15 PM

You have a PM Nev...

The Afoci · 08-27-2003, 03:16 PM

So where are we at?

JeeberD · 08-27-2003, 03:20 PM

I believe that illinifan is up next...

korme · 08-27-2003, 05:16 PM

mailbox clean nevvy

illinifan999 · 08-27-2003, 06:18 PM

Sorry guys, school and football.

With the final pick Chicago selects out of the University of Illinois, DE g aka as The Answer.

sachmo71 · 08-27-2003, 11:01 PM

Rev, we love you. Please stay, and tell us who to draft. Thanks.

digamma · 08-28-2003, 12:15 PM

Hey Shorty, Sinsinatty is on the clock.

DolphinFan1 · 08-28-2003, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digamma
Hey Shorty, Sinsinatty is on the clock.

No it's Cinnncinnnattti.

JeeberD · 08-28-2003, 12:33 PM

I thought that it was Sennsynnatti?

DolphinFan1 · 08-28-2003, 12:37 PM

Actually it's, Shorty make your pick, the future champion of the ZFL is waiting.

JeeberD · 08-28-2003, 12:43 PM

Thanks for the kid words, DolphinFan...

korme · 08-28-2003, 04:19 PM

'nati selects DE H, aka The Ugly One

JeeberD · 08-28-2003, 04:38 PM

El Paso selects WR O, Rae "I'm Innocent!" Carruth

revrew · 08-29-2003, 09:16 AM

Y'know what I just noticed? The expansion clubs have not only gone after the top talent on the board, they've also gone for young talent.

CN selected a 22 and a 21-year old.
EP a pair of 20-year-olds!

Hmmmm. This could mean trouble for the rest of the league long-range. Especially if these picks don't bust.

Coffee Warlord · 08-29-2003, 09:42 AM

Yeah, but Portland now has Zoinks McAllister.

Fear.

revrew · 08-29-2003, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
Yeah, but Portland now has Zoinks McAllister.

Fear.

Are you suggesting the rest of the league should be frightened?

Or that you're terrified he'll bust?

Coffee Warlord · 08-29-2003, 11:12 AM

I'm suggestng the rest of the league should be frightened.

People with names like Zoinks don't bust. Rememeber that, rev.

JeeberD · 08-29-2003, 11:32 AM

Hmmm...maybe I should do some research and find the names of some ZFL busts. I could then use them as future draft picks.

Something to think about...

NevStar · 08-29-2003, 02:51 PM

I'll be out of town for the weekend. I'm still looking to trade up & have sent PM's to a few people. I'll be back Monday night.

Coffee Warlord · 08-30-2003, 06:30 PM

Bumpity Bump

tucker342 · 08-30-2003, 10:53 PM

I believe it's Little Rocks pick right?

Swaggs · 08-31-2003, 08:57 PM

Little Rock trades their 2nd round pick to ALB in exchange for this season's 2nd and 3rd round picks and next season's 3rd round pick.

Marmel · 09-01-2003, 10:42 AM

I will be our of town unteil September 8th or 9th. Please select the Best Player Available for me for the rest of the draft.

Thanks.

NevStar · 09-01-2003, 09:07 PM

Sorry for the delay -

The Isotopes select DE i - Disco Stu

Coffee Warlord · 09-01-2003, 09:10 PM

Portland selects Herman the Hamster, Defensive End, University of Depravity. (J)

tucker342 · 09-01-2003, 09:38 PM

Birmingham selects DT C.

revrew · 09-02-2003, 09:40 AM

Hey tuck, is this the unnamed draft? It makes things a bit trickier for me if you don't name the guy when you draft him...

As for Marmel's picks while he's gone...y'all trust Kiper to pick for him? I can pick blind to busts and breakouts and take best talent available for him. Prefer not to have to do that, but hey, if he's gone, he's gone.

DolphinFan1 · 09-02-2003, 09:46 AM

It doesn't matter to me. I'm on deck so I'm just waiting to make my pick next.

revrew · 09-02-2003, 09:47 AM

Dola -

We're in the second round. On the clock are:
MW, KX, SA, LR, LA - revrew pick, CH

In the third, the current order is:
CN, EP, LR, FG, PT, BH, MW, KX, SA, LR, FG, CH

In the fourth:
CN, EP, LR, FG, PT, HB, MW, KX, SA, AQ, LA, CH

Dolphin, you're up!

DolphinFan1 · 09-02-2003, 09:53 AM

Sorry must have missed a pick.

I choose QB- A now known as, "Dan Marino Jr."

Let's hope he can live up to his father's legacy.

The Afoci · 09-02-2003, 11:35 AM

Did I get skipped in the second round?

Coffee Warlord · 09-02-2003, 11:37 AM

Shiiiiiiiit.

Yes, it looks like you did. And it'd be my fault, there. I thought I was up.

The Afoci · 09-02-2003, 11:56 AM

I will take DE k- Krusher

digamma · 09-02-2003, 12:14 PM

I assume the skipping doesn't screw anything else up. If not, I am up...
The Rednecks select OT V, or Lucius Jackson.

I'd also be interested in moving up to early in the third round or even late in the second round. Anyone interested? Robbie Action Jackson is still available.

Coffee Warlord · 09-02-2003, 12:30 PM

Afoci, since you woulda picked before me, do you want Mr J instead of Mr K?

sachmo71 · 09-02-2003, 02:14 PM

Let's get all of this sorted out, then I'll make my pick. I think I'm up...

DolphinFan1 · 09-02-2003, 07:35 PM

My 3rd and 4th round picks (both 7th in the round) are on the trading block. Looking to either move up in the 3rd or trade for a DT or DE. PM me what you have.

revrew · 09-02-2003, 08:38 PM

Given the screw up, let's review:

after Little Rock trades to AQ, AQ takes DE i - Disco Stu

NOW, Fargo needs to jump in, so they select DE j - Krusher

Portland then takes a step back and selects DE k - Herman the Hamster

Birmingham is still free to take DT c - Yet Another No Name

Milwaukee still gets QB a - Dan Marino Jr.

Knoxville should be free to take OT v - Lucius Jackson

Then, SA would be on the clock.

Here's what we need:
Afoci and Coffee - Both of you chime in and let us know the DE j/k switch is OK with both of you. THEN, sachmo, you're free to pick. Thanks for holding on while we get this straightened.

Coffee Warlord · 09-02-2003, 09:10 PM

That'd be the plan.

Whichever one he wants is his (odds are the one higher on the board, but who knows), I take whichever one is leftover, problem solved.

revrew · 09-02-2003, 10:05 PM

Okay, good enough. Let me know, Afoci, which DE you want.

Sachmo - Pick when ready.

sachmo71 · 09-02-2003, 11:26 PM

I'll take DT d, now known as Aragorn.

JAG · 09-03-2003, 04:24 AM

The ZFL is mirroring the NFL, though I can't imagine The Afoci wants to be compared with the Minnesota Vikings' draft team.

08-27-2003, 09:32 AM	#54
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	Albuquerque selects OLB q - Kearney LA is on the clock. __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

08-27-2003, 09:36 AM	#55
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	LA Selects: WR N, now known as WR Ashton Kucher __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

08-27-2003, 09:38 AM	#56
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	Shorty & JeeberD, clean out your inboxes. If you couldn't figure it out, I'm looking to trade up in the 2nd round. __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

08-27-2003, 12:15 PM	#59
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	You have a PM Nev... __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

08-27-2003, 03:16 PM	#60
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	So where are we at? __________________ I had something.

08-26-2003, 10:36 PM	#53
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	San Antonio takes OT U, now known as Alys Liston TwoRev. Sorry about stalling guys. We have a "new internet policy" at work, and big brother is mad! I'll try to get on once in a while and not slow things down too much. Thanks!

08-27-2003, 03:20 PM	#61
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I believe that illinifan is up next... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

08-27-2003, 05:16 PM	#62
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	mailbox clean nevvy

08-27-2003, 06:18 PM	#63
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Sorry guys, school and football. With the final pick Chicago selects out of the University of Illinois, DE g aka as The Answer. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

08-27-2003, 11:01 PM	#64
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Rev, we love you. Please stay, and tell us who to draft. Thanks.

08-28-2003, 12:15 PM	#65
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Hey Shorty, Sinsinatty is on the clock.

08-28-2003, 12:33 PM	#67
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I thought that it was Sennsynnatti? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

08-28-2003, 12:37 PM	#68
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	Actually it's, Shorty make your pick, the future champion of the ZFL is waiting. __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

08-28-2003, 12:43 PM	#69
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Thanks for the kid words, DolphinFan... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

08-28-2003, 04:19 PM	#70
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	'nati selects DE H, aka The Ugly One

08-28-2003, 04:38 PM	#71
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	El Paso selects WR O, Rae "I'm Innocent!" Carruth __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO Last edited by JeeberD : 08-28-2003 at 04:40 PM.

08-29-2003, 09:16 AM	#72
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Y'know what I just noticed? The expansion clubs have not only gone after the top talent on the board, they've also gone for young talent. CN selected a 22 and a 21-year old. EP a pair of 20-year-olds! Hmmmm. This could mean trouble for the rest of the league long-range. Especially if these picks don't bust. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

08-29-2003, 09:42 AM	#73
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Yeah, but Portland now has Zoinks McAllister. Fear.

08-29-2003, 11:12 AM	#75
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I'm suggestng the rest of the league should be frightened. People with names like Zoinks don't bust. Rememeber that, rev.

08-29-2003, 11:32 AM	#76
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Hmmm...maybe I should do some research and find the names of some ZFL busts. I could then use them as future draft picks. Something to think about... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

08-29-2003, 02:51 PM	#77
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	I'll be out of town for the weekend. I'm still looking to trade up & have sent PM's to a few people. I'll be back Monday night. __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

08-30-2003, 06:30 PM	#78
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Bumpity Bump

08-30-2003, 10:53 PM	#79
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	I believe it's Little Rocks pick right?

08-31-2003, 08:57 PM	#80
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Little Rock trades their 2nd round pick to ALB in exchange for this season's 2nd and 3rd round picks and next season's 3rd round pick. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

09-01-2003, 10:42 AM	#81
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	I will be our of town unteil September 8th or 9th. Please select the Best Player Available for me for the rest of the draft. Thanks. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

09-01-2003, 09:07 PM	#82
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	Sorry for the delay - The Isotopes select DE i - Disco Stu __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

09-01-2003, 09:10 PM	#83
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Portland selects Herman the Hamster, Defensive End, University of Depravity. (J)

09-01-2003, 09:38 PM	#84
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Birmingham selects DT C.

09-02-2003, 09:40 AM	#85
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Hey tuck, is this the unnamed draft? It makes things a bit trickier for me if you don't name the guy when you draft him... As for Marmel's picks while he's gone...y'all trust Kiper to pick for him? I can pick blind to busts and breakouts and take best talent available for him. Prefer not to have to do that, but hey, if he's gone, he's gone. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

09-02-2003, 09:46 AM	#86
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	It doesn't matter to me. I'm on deck so I'm just waiting to make my pick next. __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

09-02-2003, 09:47 AM	#87
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Dola - We're in the second round. On the clock are: MW, KX, SA, LR, LA - revrew pick, CH In the third, the current order is: CN, EP, LR, FG, PT, BH, MW, KX, SA, LR, FG, CH In the fourth: CN, EP, LR, FG, PT, HB, MW, KX, SA, AQ, LA, CH Dolphin, you're up! __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

09-02-2003, 09:53 AM	#88
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	Sorry must have missed a pick. I choose QB- A now known as, "Dan Marino Jr." Let's hope he can live up to his father's legacy. __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

09-02-2003, 11:35 AM	#89
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	Did I get skipped in the second round? __________________ I had something.

09-02-2003, 11:37 AM	#90
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Shiiiiiiiit. Yes, it looks like you did. And it'd be my fault, there. I thought I was up.

09-02-2003, 11:56 AM	#91
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	I will take DE k- Krusher __________________ I had something.