NFL Week 17 - Welker hurt, Giants suck and some other stuff - Page 2

Dr. Sak · 01-03-2010, 12:34 PM

If Bellichik convinced a guy to play after having a stroke, maybe he can convince Welker to play with a torn ACL.

jeff061 · 01-03-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I dunno how people can be pissed? This is no different then Week 1, 5 or 10. It's not like BB is defying logic and being a wildcard who is playing his guys when no one else does. Just bad luck.

The story of the week was "who if anyone is going to play". Now I don't know if the general fan base cared or thought there was a chance they'd sit healthy starters, but the talking heads and columnists sure couldn't stop debating it.

molson · 01-03-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

The story of the week was "who if anyone is going to play". Now I don't know if the general fan base cared or thought there was a chance they'd sit healthy starters, but the talking heads and columnists sure couldn't stop debating it.

There was zero chance that any starters would miss the entire game. That was never discussed, even by the talking heads.

Even taking the extreme far end of this philosophy (the Colts), Manning is going to play some today.

And the game's not even entirely meaningless - The Pats have hosted at least one AFC Championship game as a #3 seed. (As a remote a chance as that is)

jeff061 · 01-03-2010, 12:38 PM

Well then we are listening to different people. Cause I'm not lying, I swear to god I listened to Massorotti and some idiot talk about it for over an hour on Thursday(I think). And Reiss's, Globe and Herald blogs had something on it every day for the last week.

Edit: and Massorotti started by saying they should all sit, but changed his mind. Idiot(I forget his name) firmly believed they should all rest because only injuries could derail them.

molson · 01-03-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Well then we are listening to different people. Cause I'm not lying, I swear to god I listened to Massorotti and some idiot talk about it for over an hour on Thursday(I think). And Reiss's, Globe and Herald blogs had something on it every day for the last week.

They were talking a lot about how long guys were going to play - but it would impossible for the Patriots to actually sit their entire starting lineup for the entire game even if they wanted to, the rosters aren't that big.

If someone was talking about sitting players for the whole game, idiot is the right word to use, because no team has ever done that, and I don't Bellichick as the guy starting a new trend in that area.

Logan · 01-03-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

DOLA

NFL to ask competition committee to look again at game, competitive balance - ESPN

Not really sure how this gets enforced

Mortensen said earlier today that they might use extra draft picks as an incentive to get teams to play their starters. I have no idea how that could possibly work, with the main sticking point being how you handle the shitty teams.

SirFozzie · 01-03-2010, 12:45 PM

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has played the last several games with three broken ribs, CBS Sports reported Sunday.

Give Brady props for toughness

Logan · 01-03-2010, 12:48 PM

Bill Simmons has been saying that for weeks.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Bill Simmons has been saying that for weeks.

You would read Bill Simmons.

Logan · 01-03-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

You would read Bill Simmons.

Nah, podcasts. Once that shrilly voice comes on, your sister turns into a beast.

SirFozzie · 01-03-2010, 12:52 PM

Simmons has been saying that, but that was just from his view (admittedly, the fact that he had to wear the "flak vest" chest protector was pretty much a giveaway)

Coffee Warlord · 01-03-2010, 12:53 PM

It sounds eerily quiet in Detroit today. Not a lot of shots of the stands yet, wonder how many people are actually there.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2010, 12:54 PM

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It sounds eerily quiet in Detroit today. Not a lot of shots of the stands yet, wonder how many people are actually there.

One less after that guy who ran on the field got ejected.

Coffee Warlord · 01-03-2010, 12:57 PM

Heh, yeah. He wasn't even naked or anything, loser.

DataKing · 01-03-2010, 12:57 PM

Enough of that nonsense...let's talk about a game that matters.

Bears up 6-3 over the Lions.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2010, 12:58 PM

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Heh, yeah. He wasn't even naked or anything, loser.

I was shocked Fox kept the camera on him, normally they just cut away. Maybe they wanted to prove people actually showed up?

This game is so fucking boring.

Logan · 01-03-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Simmons has been saying that, but that was just from his view (admittedly, the fact that he had to wear the "flak vest" chest protector was pretty much a giveaway)

Pretty sure he said he got it from someone within the Pats, but whatever.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2010, 01:03 PM

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Pretty sure he said he got it from someone within the Pats, but whatever.

STFU RutgersAl.

If you don't read Rivals or any other Rutgers forums, disregard, though I suggest you start for that one reason.

Coffee Warlord · 01-03-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I was shocked Fox kept the camera on him, normally they just cut away. Maybe they wanted to prove people actually showed up?

This game is so fucking boring.

They just gave it away. Just saw a shot of the crowd, the good seats are packed, and about 40 or so rows up it was utterly empty.

Logan · 01-03-2010, 01:07 PM

I can't believe I just had a rutgersal crossover here. Really blew my mind.

I've met Al before. He's batshit insane in real life too and has the hairiest arms you'll ever see.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I can't believe I just had a rutgersal crossover here. Really blew my mind.

I've met Al before. He's batshit insane in real life too and has the hairiest arms you'll ever see.

Oh God. I figured he wasn't just a troll, he had to be insane, glad this confirms it. His Youtube videos are awesome.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-03-2010, 01:27 PM

Woodley's just making a tackling dummy out of his old college QB.

Lathum · 01-03-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Pains me to say this, but "Let's go Giants, beat those Vikings so my Cards still have a shot at the #2 seed!"

Suburban Rhythm · 01-03-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Mortensen said earlier today that they might use extra draft picks as an incentive to get teams to play their starters. I have no idea how that could possibly work, with the main sticking point being how you handle the shitty teams.

Godell was in the booth during Steelers-Dolphins and was asked about this, and he mentioned it as well regarding draft picks, but I sort of took it as teams being penalized, I guess similar to salary cap violations. Maybe I heard him wrong though.

Logan · 01-03-2010, 01:49 PM

Or Mort was wrong...for a change.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-03-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Godell was in the booth during Steelers-Dolphins and was asked about this, and he mentioned it as well regarding draft picks, but I sort of took it as teams being penalized, I guess similar to salary cap violations. Maybe I heard him wrong though.

Yeah, and when Manning or Brees is lost for the season because some guy trying to make a name for himself takes a cheap shot in week 17, what will Goodell do then?

DeToxRox · 01-03-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Yeah, and when Manning or Brees is lost for the season because some guy trying to make a name for himself takes a cheap shot in week 17, what will Goodell do then?

Goodell is going to solve Week 17's "play the backups or keep the starters in" debate by adding two more regular season games, so then it becomes Week 19's problem.

jbergey22 · 01-03-2010, 02:04 PM

Football sucks when one team doesnt care. When the Giants decided to pack it in for the year they decided to do it in style.

The only game saving today is Eagles/Cowboys.

Logan · 01-03-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Yeah, and when Manning or Brees is lost for the season because some guy trying to make a name for himself takes a cheap shot in week 17, what will Goodell do then?

Probably suspend him for a number of games, just like he would do for any other week of the season where these guys can get hurt.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-03-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Goodell is going to solve Week 17's "play the backups or keep the starters in" debate by adding two more regular season games, so then it becomes Week 19's problem.

Another opportunity for the Lions to set a futility record? Sweet!

Eaglesfan27 · 01-03-2010, 02:10 PM

Pat White looks like he just got knocked out.

Radii · 01-03-2010, 02:12 PM

I dunno why the Saints feel its totally ok to go into the playoffs on a 3 game losing streak, but its quite clear that is the case. Carolina has been playing well to be sure, but New Oreleans is just not trying at all today.

molson · 01-03-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Pat White looks like he just got knocked out.

Brutal...

These are the plays you have to remember when people whine about rules designed to protect players.

Big Fo · 01-03-2010, 02:17 PM

Henne was taken out of the game earlier due to some kind of eye injury. Next time Miami has the ball it will be Tyler Thigpen time.

CU Tiger · 01-03-2010, 02:28 PM

As far as the starters PT argument, could Peyton not take 1 snap, kneel down then leave the game rubbing his knee.
"He missed the 2nd half with a bruised knee, we hope he will be ready to go next week"

MikeVic · 01-03-2010, 02:30 PM

That Pat White hit looked brutal. Hope he's ok. Once someone here posted that story about White and the Vets, I became a fan of his.

Front Office Midget · 01-03-2010, 02:45 PM

So, with a Vikings win, the Packers definitely play the Cardinals next week... I'm pretty sure. Interesting. But they could be the 5th or 6th seed, depending how the game goes.

cuervo72 · 01-03-2010, 02:47 PM

So uh, Thigpen's looking pretty good.

SirFozzie · 01-03-2010, 02:47 PM

Another game blown in the 4th on the road?

MrDNA · 01-03-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

So uh, Thigpen's looking pretty good.

!!!

Northwood_DK · 01-03-2010, 02:51 PM

Ben losses the ball

MikeVic · 01-03-2010, 02:51 PM

Fucking Steelers.

MrDNA · 01-03-2010, 02:51 PM

Holy shit, this Miami game is insane!

Northwood_DK · 01-03-2010, 02:53 PM

What about Bens arm?

cuervo72 · 01-03-2010, 02:53 PM

Ok, that pass not so good.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-03-2010, 02:54 PM

Ben is going to play QB 1 handed? That arm doesn't look well at all.

MikeVic · 01-03-2010, 02:58 PM

Damn Texans are winning.

DataKing · 01-03-2010, 03:14 PM

OK now I'm pissed...instead of showing us (Chicago) a meaningful Eagles/Cowboys game, they're showing us the Packers/Cards game that means absolutely nothing!

Edit: Looks like its Ravens/Raiders for me.

Northwood_DK · 01-03-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DataKing

OK now I'm pissed...instead of showing us (Chicago) a meaningful Eagles/Cowboys game, they're showing us the Packers/Cards game that means absolutely nothing!

Edit: Looks like its Ravens/Raiders for me.

Move to Denmark. We got both games

Izulde · 01-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Sucked to lose the Steelers game.

But we had our chances.

01-03-2010, 12:38 PM	#54
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Well then we are listening to different people. Cause I'm not lying, I swear to god I listened to Massorotti and some idiot talk about it for over an hour on Thursday(I think). And Reiss's, Globe and Herald blogs had something on it every day for the last week. Edit: and Massorotti started by saying they should all sit, but changed his mind. Idiot(I forget his name) firmly believed they should all rest because only injuries could derail them. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 01-03-2010 at 12:40 PM.

01-03-2010, 12:45 PM	#57
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has played the last several games with three broken ribs, CBS Sports reported Sunday. Give Brady props for toughness __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

01-03-2010, 12:52 PM	#61
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Simmons has been saying that, but that was just from his view (admittedly, the fact that he had to wear the "flak vest" chest protector was pretty much a giveaway) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

01-03-2010, 12:57 PM	#65
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	Enough of that nonsense...let's talk about a game that matters. Bears up 6-3 over the Lions. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

01-03-2010, 02:04 PM	#78
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Football sucks when one team doesnt care. When the Giants decided to pack it in for the year they decided to do it in style. The only game saving today is Eagles/Cowboys. Last edited by jbergey22 : 01-03-2010 at 02:05 PM.

01-03-2010, 12:48 PM	#58
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Bill Simmons has been saying that for weeks.

01-03-2010, 12:53 PM	#62
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	It sounds eerily quiet in Detroit today. Not a lot of shots of the stands yet, wonder how many people are actually there.

01-03-2010, 01:07 PM	#70
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I can't believe I just had a rutgersal crossover here. Really blew my mind. I've met Al before. He's batshit insane in real life too and has the hairiest arms you'll ever see.

01-03-2010, 01:27 PM	#72
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Woodley's just making a tackling dummy out of his old college QB.

01-03-2010, 01:49 PM	#75
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Or Mort was wrong...for a change.

01-03-2010, 02:10 PM	#81
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Pat White looks like he just got knocked out. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

01-03-2010, 02:12 PM	#82
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I dunno why the Saints feel its totally ok to go into the playoffs on a 3 game losing streak, but its quite clear that is the case. Carolina has been playing well to be sure, but New Oreleans is just not trying at all today.

01-03-2010, 02:17 PM	#84
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Henne was taken out of the game earlier due to some kind of eye injury. Next time Miami has the ball it will be Tyler Thigpen time.

01-03-2010, 02:28 PM	#85
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	As far as the starters PT argument, could Peyton not take 1 snap, kneel down then leave the game rubbing his knee. "He missed the 2nd half with a bruised knee, we hope he will be ready to go next week"

01-03-2010, 02:30 PM	#86
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	That Pat White hit looked brutal. Hope he's ok. Once someone here posted that story about White and the Vets, I became a fan of his.

01-03-2010, 02:45 PM	#87
Front Office Midget High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin	So, with a Vikings win, the Packers definitely play the Cardinals next week... I'm pretty sure. Interesting. But they could be the 5th or 6th seed, depending how the game goes. Last edited by Front Office Midget : 01-03-2010 at 02:46 PM.

01-03-2010, 02:47 PM	#88
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	So uh, Thigpen's looking pretty good. __________________ null

01-03-2010, 02:51 PM	#91
Northwood_DK College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in Norway	Ben losses the ball

01-03-2010, 02:51 PM	#93
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	Holy shit, this Miami game is insane! __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

01-03-2010, 02:53 PM	#94
Northwood_DK College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in Norway	What about Bens arm?

01-03-2010, 02:53 PM	#95
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Ok, that pass not so good. __________________ null

01-03-2010, 02:54 PM	#96
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Ben is going to play QB 1 handed? That arm doesn't look well at all. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

01-03-2010, 02:58 PM	#97
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Damn Texans are winning.

01-03-2010, 03:14 PM	#98
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	OK now I'm pissed...instead of showing us (Chicago) a meaningful Eagles/Cowboys game, they're showing us the Packers/Cards game that means absolutely nothing! Edit: Looks like its Ravens/Raiders for me. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty) Last edited by DataKing : 01-03-2010 at 03:16 PM.

01-03-2010, 03:23 PM	#100
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