NFL Week 15 - Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, don't miss out - Page 2

Samdari · 12-18-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Now it's time for a random "Did You Know ... ?"

2008 QB Rating for Jamarcus Russell (in 15g) = 77.1
2007 QB Rating for Vince Young (in 15g) = 66.7
2006 QB Rating for Vince Young (in 15g) = 71.1

Yeah, I did know that. Given how bad he looked this year, its hard to remember that he once showed improvement and promise.

DeToxRox · 12-18-2009, 02:56 PM

Baltimore vs Chicago has been pushed until 4:15 because of snow on Sunday.

stevew · 12-18-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Vince Young's worst day was never as bad as Russel's best. That's all I'm saying...

I agree, regardless of QB rating comparisons. VY is a winner, Jabustus is not.

DeToxRox · 12-19-2009, 12:11 PM

Eagles vs Niners joins the Ravens vs Bears as being pushed back until 4.

BishopMVP · 12-19-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Now it's time for a random "Did You Know ... ?"

2008 QB Rating for Jamarcus Russell (in 15g) = 77.1
2007 QB Rating for Vince Young (in 15g) = 66.7
2006 QB Rating for Vince Young (in 15g) = 71.1

2008 QB ratings
Brett Favre 81.0
Joe Flacco 80.3
Ben Roethlisberger 80.1
Jamarcus Russell 77.1

2009 QB Ratings
Matt Ryan 80.0
Jay Cutler 75.2
Matt Cassel 68.3
Mark Sanchez 63.7
Matt Stafford 61.0
Josh Freeman 55.4

I mean, I think VY (and Vick) are underrated by QB rating because they open up the running game, and Jamarcus has regressed this year, but it's amazing what a good running game and defense do to people's perceptions of a QB. (Example #2 - Jason Campbell)

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 07:53 PM

Cowboys moving the ball at will thus far 14-0.

Tigercat · 12-19-2009, 07:53 PM

I understand that the Saints DL is much weaker without Ellis, but I can't understand why the rest of the unit looks like the walking dead at the start of every game.

DataKing · 12-19-2009, 07:53 PM

Will someone please give Matt Millen a job so I don't have to listen to his stupid ass any more?

mauchow · 12-19-2009, 07:55 PM

LETS GO COWBOYS LETS GO!

Need two losses from the Saints and the Vikings winning out to get homefield for the playoffs.

bulletsponge · 12-19-2009, 07:59 PM

is the game on tv?

Tigercat · 12-19-2009, 07:59 PM

NFL network

bulletsponge · 12-19-2009, 08:00 PM

crap, was afraid of that

RainMaker · 12-19-2009, 08:05 PM

The Bears have yet to make it to Baltimore. They are hoping to get out of the city tonight and into Baltimore. I know whether is bad, but this still feels like an incompetent organization who couldn't plan to leave a little earlier for the trip.

Rizon · 12-19-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

The Bears have yet to make it to Baltimore. They are hoping to get out of the city tonight and into Baltimore. I know whether is bad, but this still feels like an incompetent organization who couldn't plan to leave a little earlier for the trip.

The Bears have the same chance to win whether they make it there or not.

kingfc22 · 12-19-2009, 09:18 PM

Dallas laying the wood to the saints right now in all phases of the game.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 09:20 PM

Saints better hope they dont have to play the Saturday divisional game. It appears Saturday is not their day.

Big Fo · 12-19-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

The Bears have the same chance to win whether they make it there or not.

Sad but probably true. I don't expect the Bears to do much more to help out Miami than the Lions could do last week.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 09:58 PM

If the Saints keep this up, this will be their most impressive comeback of the year.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

If the Saints keep this up, this will be their most impressive comeback of the year.

I think any comeback would be hard pressed to top that Redskins game comeback.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I think any comeback would be hard pressed to top that Redskins game comeback.

That was a great one, but down 21 points to start the 4th tops it for me if they finish this off. Not to mention, the pressure of maintaining perfection is higher than earlier in the year. Anyway, impressive 4th quarter so far. Saints are down 24-17 with 8 minutes to go.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Good points.

On a side note I think Deshaun picked a bad time to start talking about how unstoppable their offense is with a fiesty defense just looking to shut him up. I am pretty sure Singletary used that as ammunition all week to fire his boys up

CU Tiger · 12-19-2009, 10:11 PM

I hate NFL network...CBS sportsline follow along just isnt the same

Front Office Midget · 12-19-2009, 10:12 PM

I haven't heard Matt Millen color commentate a game in ten years, since I was eleven years old..

As soon as I heard his voice, I thought, "I hate Matt Millen. Is that really him?"

And it was.

And his commentary is just as annoying as I remember from my childhood.

CU Tiger · 12-19-2009, 10:16 PM

how has romo looked for those able to see it

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

how has romo looked for those able to see it

Excellent.. but it is up to their kicker now. Can the Saints get another short kick missed... yes they do!!!

Dallas kicker misses it (off the upright) from 24 yards out!

panerd · 12-19-2009, 10:17 PM

Why is Nick Folk still their kicker?

DataKing · 12-19-2009, 10:17 PM

Folk might be looking for a job tomorrow.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:17 PM

OMG. You have got to be kidding me.

RainMaker · 12-19-2009, 10:17 PM

That is amazing. Is there really not some old kicker out there who can just hit kicks consistently under 40 yards?

CU Tiger · 12-19-2009, 10:17 PM

son of a bitch.....cbs is slow to respond.

larrymcg421 · 12-19-2009, 10:18 PM

If the Cowboys now lose this game, anyone who blames Romo for "another December loss" is a moron.

Just calling it in advance.

Front Office Midget · 12-19-2009, 10:18 PM

Wow. I don't remember seeing such an important chip shot missed since... 1997, week 2 or 3, when Ryan Longwell missed a kick from under 30 to cause the Packers to lose to the Eagles. Granted, I don't watch a ton of football.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 10:18 PM

Millen sucks, but he's right there. Brees should have batted that ball down.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Front Office Midget

Wow. I don't remember seeing such an important chip shot missed since... 1997, week 2 or 3, when Ryan Longwell missed a kick from under 30 to cause the Packers to lose to the Eagles. Granted, I don't watch a ton of football.

The Saints were playing the Redskins 2-3 weeks ago and the Skins kicker missed a 21-22 yarder in this exact same situation. It is really bizarre how everything is going the Saints way right now.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 10:21 PM

Saints facing a 4th and 10 here with 1:35 to go...

Brees to Colston for the 1st.

panerd · 12-19-2009, 10:22 PM

these guys have karma going big time

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 10:23 PM

Only 38 seconds left to go 61 yards..

Saints get a 1st and get out of bounds. They are on their own 45.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:24 PM

One of the Cowboys corners will fall down and some Saint will be running wide open.

CU Tiger · 12-19-2009, 10:28 PM

ok incomplete, reviewed upheld...now whats taking soooo long?

M GO BLUE!!! · 12-19-2009, 10:29 PM

...and 1.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-19-2009, 10:29 PM

Ware with a sack and forced fumble to end the game and the Saints' shot at perfection.

panerd · 12-19-2009, 10:30 PM

Cowboys playoff hopes are still very much alive, Nick Folk's NFL career dead.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Ware with a sack and forced fumble to end the game and the Saints' shot at perfection.

Does this eliminate the Giants?

CU Tiger · 12-19-2009, 10:30 PM

HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS!!!!!1

EagleFan · 12-19-2009, 10:31 PM

Bad no call there, Ware was lined up offside on that play, but that's nothing new for him.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 10:32 PM

Big win by the Cowboys and hopefully this slows down the Saints just a bit.

Great comeback attempt by them once again. Imagine how great they would be if they started playing before the 2nd half.

Tigercat · 12-19-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Big win by the Cowboys and hopefully this slows down the Saints just a bit.

Great comeback attempt by them once again. Imagine how great they would be if they started playing before the 2nd half.

Hard to imagine the Saints at their worst losing to Tampa, so as a Vikings fan you have to root for the Vikings to win out and the Panthers to beat the Saints at Carolina in week 17.

As far as the game, the Saints weaknesses from injuries were finally fully exposed. Kudos to the Saints coaching staff for hiding them somewhat with smoke and mirrors up to this point, but without Ellis the Saints DTs couldn't help provide any pressure on Romo or any push in run defense. Without Greer and with Porter 80%, the secondary just isn't up to par. Bushrod (Brown's replacement this year) was shown as a clear weak link in pass protection tonight. (Add in Brees having one of his worst games of the season, and you have the recipe for the loss.)

If the defense isn't healthy for the playoffs, we will have some issues in the post season.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 12-19-2009, 10:47 PM

DeMarcus Ware is one of the most likable players in the NFL.

Noop · 12-19-2009, 10:53 PM

One Down One More To Go.

jbergey22 · 12-19-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Hard to imagine the Saints at their worst losing to Tampa, so as a Vikings fan you have to root for the Vikings to win out and the Panthers to beat the Saints at Carolina in week 17.

Ive all but given up on home field as realistically the Saints arent going to lose again and the Vikings coudl very easily lose the Giants game week 17 if it means anything to them.

If the Saints would have pulled tonights game out I would have lost all hope of them losing a game this season. Someone had mentioned earlier about "that dream season" when everything goes you way. Having 2 teams within a month miss chippy FGs and have the Saints fight their way back would have had me convinced that this is the Saints "dream season."

Any other year Id be rooting hard for the Saints to get to the Super Bowl. Its unfortunate to me that their great season has to happen the same year as the Vikings are as strong as they have been in 12 years.

12-19-2009, 07:53 PM	#58
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12-19-2009, 09:18 PM	#65
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12-19-2009, 09:58 PM	#68
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12-19-2009, 10:17 PM	#77
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12-19-2009, 10:17 PM	#79
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	That is amazing. Is there really not some old kicker out there who can just hit kicks consistently under 40 yards? Last edited by RainMaker : 12-19-2009 at 10:18 PM.

12-18-2009, 02:56 PM	#52
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Baltimore vs Chicago has been pushed until 4:15 because of snow on Sunday.

12-19-2009, 12:11 PM	#54
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Eagles vs Niners joins the Ravens vs Bears as being pushed back until 4.

12-19-2009, 07:53 PM	#56
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Cowboys moving the ball at will thus far 14-0.

12-19-2009, 07:53 PM	#57
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	I understand that the Saints DL is much weaker without Ellis, but I can't understand why the rest of the unit looks like the walking dead at the start of every game.

12-19-2009, 07:55 PM	#59
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	LETS GO COWBOYS LETS GO! Need two losses from the Saints and the Vikings winning out to get homefield for the playoffs.

12-19-2009, 07:59 PM	#60
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	is the game on tv?

12-19-2009, 08:00 PM	#62
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	crap, was afraid of that

12-19-2009, 08:05 PM	#63
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	The Bears have yet to make it to Baltimore. They are hoping to get out of the city tonight and into Baltimore. I know whether is bad, but this still feels like an incompetent organization who couldn't plan to leave a little earlier for the trip.

12-19-2009, 09:20 PM	#66
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Saints better hope they dont have to play the Saturday divisional game. It appears Saturday is not their day.

12-19-2009, 10:06 PM	#71
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Good points. On a side note I think Deshaun picked a bad time to start talking about how unstoppable their offense is with a fiesty defense just looking to shut him up. I am pretty sure Singletary used that as ammunition all week to fire his boys up

12-19-2009, 10:11 PM	#72
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	I hate NFL network...CBS sportsline follow along just isnt the same

12-19-2009, 10:12 PM	#73
Front Office Midget High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin	I haven't heard Matt Millen color commentate a game in ten years, since I was eleven years old.. As soon as I heard his voice, I thought, "I hate Matt Millen. Is that really him?" And it was. And his commentary is just as annoying as I remember from my childhood.

12-19-2009, 10:16 PM	#74
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	how has romo looked for those able to see it

12-19-2009, 10:17 PM	#76
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Why is Nick Folk still their kicker?

12-19-2009, 10:18 PM	#81
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12-19-2009, 10:21 PM	#85
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12-19-2009, 10:22 PM	#86
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	these guys have karma going big time

12-19-2009, 10:23 PM	#87
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Only 38 seconds left to go 61 yards.. Saints get a 1st and get out of bounds. They are on their own 45. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-19-2009, 10:24 PM	#88
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	One of the Cowboys corners will fall down and some Saint will be running wide open.

12-19-2009, 10:28 PM	#89
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	ok incomplete, reviewed upheld...now whats taking soooo long?

12-19-2009, 10:29 PM	#90
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	...and 1.

12-19-2009, 10:30 PM	#92
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Cowboys playoff hopes are still very much alive, Nick Folk's NFL career dead.

12-19-2009, 10:31 PM	#95
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Bad no call there, Ware was lined up offside on that play, but that's nothing new for him.

12-19-2009, 10:32 PM	#96
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Big win by the Cowboys and hopefully this slows down the Saints just a bit. Great comeback attempt by them once again. Imagine how great they would be if they started playing before the 2nd half.

12-19-2009, 10:47 PM	#98
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12-19-2009, 10:53 PM	#99
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