Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize??? - Page 2

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

So which one is Hillary? (I think I know

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I wondered about that myself for a minute until I realized it was a POV photo

JAG · 10-09-2009, 09:47 AM

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More often, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments.

That's a ridiculous reason. Does anyone believe this has actually worked?

RomaGoth · 10-09-2009, 10:12 AM

Just some random comments in the article that I found intriguing. Make of them what you will.

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"Very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said in a citation.

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Afghanistan's Taliban mocked the award, saying Obama should get a Nobel prize for violence instead.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said it was absurd to give a peace award to a man who had sent 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan to escalate a war.

"The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won the 'Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'," he told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

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"We hope this can contribute a little bit to enhance what he is trying to do," he told a news conference. (Nobel Committee Chairman Thorbjoern Jagland)

What is even more absurd than Obama receiving this award is the Taliban saying he deserves it for killing civilians and such. I am pretty sure that they are the last organization with any say in the matter.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 10-09-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

She's actually holding a staff meeting now to discuss a response.

This was such a great flick....

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-09-2009, 10:16 AM

Looks like the President is fashionably late to his news conference. You can hear the various reporters doing their reports in the background using words like 'stunned', 'pranked', and 'surprised' to describe the reactions of Obama's staff.

Noop · 10-09-2009, 10:22 AM

Good for Obama.

Autumn · 10-09-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

keep in mind, this is the same committee that gave this award a few years ago to someone who went around africa planting trees, and that was their whole gimmick

Which, if you read about her, was a million times more astute choice than this. There's more to peace than peace treaties.

Young Drachma · 10-09-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rowech

What has he done to win this award? It's insanity. Perhaps he really is the Antichrist.

Haha...I'm thinking they wanted to buff the award off and make it relevant again, so who better to give it to? I dunno what else they would've been thinking, though some strange people have been considered for it in recent years.

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 10:35 AM

I would have chimed in earlier, but I was on the phone with Oslo. My 4-year old daughter has won the Nobel Prize in Economics for her exciting work with piggybanks. I'm so excited!

Swaggs · 10-09-2009, 10:45 AM

I wonder if SNL can do something good with this.

I can picture something with him giving a press conference, with it repeatedly being interupted by an aide informing/giving him awards like the 2009 AL Cy Young, a Grammy, an Olympic medal, etc.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-09-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I wonder if SNL can do something good with this.

I can picture something with him giving a press conference, with it repeatedly being interupted by an aide informing/giving him awards like the 2009 AL Cy Young, a Grammy, an Olympic medal, etc.

I'm not sure that anything could be funnier than the actual event.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 10-09-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

I would have chimed in earlier, but I was on the phone with Oslo. My 4-year old daughter has won the Nobel Prize in Economics for her exciting work with piggybanks. I'm so excited!

Auntie Farrah is so proud.

Galaxy · 10-09-2009, 10:58 AM

Insane...

"They lauded the change in global mood wrought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation, and praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change."

So I guess they haven't been watching Iran? Sending more troops to the Middle East and never withdrawing from Iraq?

"Obama said he was surprised and deeply humbled by the honor, and planned to travel to Oslo to accept the prize, "

Another wasted taxpayer-funded trip to Scandinavia

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 11:02 AM

Uh oh... we better stop laughing.

DNC official: GOP siding with terrorists - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

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"The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize," DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. "Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.

Every time you laugh, the terrorists win.

miked · 10-09-2009, 11:05 AM

So I'm too lazy to look this up, but did he nominate himself? If not, why is everyone so up in arms about it throwing insults at him (like Steele and his irrelevant ilk)? I mean, if he didn't nominate himself, didn't campaign for it, what's he supposed to do if they give it to him...turn it down? I guess we shouldn't think too much about it, but I just don't see the issue other than the committee that gave a peace award to a terrorist made another silly choice.

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 11:06 AM

BTW, I wonder if Brad Woodhouse is going to be taken to the woodshed by his bosses for calling the Taliban terrorists a day after the NYTimes reported:

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President Obama’s national security team is moving to reframe its war strategy by emphasizing the campaign against Al Qaeda in Pakistan while arguing that the Taliban in Afghanistan do not pose a direct threat to the United States, officials said Wednesday.

Afghan War Debate Now Leans to Focus on Al Qaeda - NYTimes.com

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

So I'm too lazy to look this up, but did he nominate himself? If not, why is everyone so up in arms about it throwing insults at him (like Steele and his irrelevant ilk)? I mean, if he didn't nominate himself, didn't campaign for it, what's he supposed to do if they give it to him...turn it down? I guess we shouldn't think too much about it, but I just don't see the issue other than the committee that gave a peace award to a terrorist made another silly choice.

Turning it down actually would have been a pretty kick-ass act of statesmanship, and would have impressed the hell out of me.

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

So I'm too lazy to look this up, but did he nominate himself? If not, why is everyone so up in arms about it throwing insults at him (like Steele and his irrelevant ilk)? I mean, if he didn't nominate himself, didn't campaign for it, what's he supposed to do if they give it to him...turn it down? I guess we shouldn't think too much about it, but I just don't see the issue other than the committee that gave a peace award to a terrorist made another silly choice.

I don't know that people are blaming him personally (well probably some silly Republicans are), I think it just really re-enforces the idea that this is a charming, smooth talking, rock star who the world has fell in love with, but who doesn't actually have substance. I think Swaggs hit on it well above - what's next, a grammy? Maybe the Nobel Prize for Chemistry? It just seems like a funny parody of Obama's celebrity.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-09-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Good for Obama.

I agree.

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I agree.

The presidency is shaping up to be a very lucrative gig for him, he's definitely an hugely and ridiculously successful human being.

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I agree.

Would you have agreed with Steve Yzerman getting nominated to the Hockey Hall of Fame based on two weeks of play in the NHL (and winning after nine months of NHL experience)?

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

It just seems like a funny parody of Obama's celebrity.

Well that's appropriate, he's a parody of a President, so it kind of works.

Young Drachma · 10-09-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

I don't know that people are blaming him personally (well probably some silly Republicans are), I think it just really re-enforces the idea that this is a charming, smooth talking, rock star who the world has fell in love with, but who doesn't actually have substance. I think Swaggs hit on it well above - what's next, a grammy? Maybe the Nobel Prize for Chemistry? It just seems like a funny parody of Obama's celebrity.

He's already got two Grammys.

AFP: Obama beats Clinton -- this time at the Grammys

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Obama beats Clinton -- this time at the Grammys

(AFP) – Feb 10, 2008

LOS ANGELES (AFP) — Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Sunday beat two former US presidents, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, when he picked up a Grammy Award in Los Angeles.

Obama, who is currently neck and neck with Hillary Clinton in the fierce battle for the Democratic party's presidential nomination, won the music industry's prize in the category for best spoken word album.

The freshman senator for Illinois was honored for his audio version of his book "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream."

It was Obama's second Grammy, having won the same spoken word award in 2005 for his book "Dreams From My Father."

Bill Clinton had been nominated for his "Giving: How Each of Us Can Change the World," his best-selling guide to how individuals can contribute to worthy causes, while Carter, the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize winner, was nominated for his "Sunday Mornings in Plains: Bringing Peace to a Changing World."

Other nominees included Maya Angelou for "Celebrations" and actor Alan Alda for "Things I Overheard While Talking to Myself."

The award came as Obama beat Hillary Clinton in three Democratic nominating contests Saturday, putting him more or less even with Clinton in the increasingly tight battle for the Democratic party nomination.

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Seriously, though, as the award clearly references his actions prior to Inauguration as part of the rationale, I wonder how many of the people saying "WTF did he do in his first two weeks?!?!" are also the same people who complained that a) Obama was already acting like the President on the campaign trail and b) he was too involved with domestic and international affairs during the transition (or even before).

The funny thing about that is that yes, he must have received the reward for his unfullfiled campaign rhetoric. All the fancy speeches and slogans. That makes sense, because he was definitely more effective there than during his presidency thus far.

JPhillips · 10-09-2009, 11:20 AM

I'm so old I remember when many of these posters complained about Bush Derangement Syndrome.

stevew · 10-09-2009, 11:21 AM

At least they didn't give the award to Michael Phelps.
Then again, they'd probably have 8 different peace prizes that can be won by swimmers.

I mean, if Usain Bolt won the award, we'd all be wtf, but he probably deserves it more than Obama. I mean, you gotta figure for 9.6 seconds everyone chilled out, dropped their weapons, and watched the man run.

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm so old I remember when many of these posters complained about Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Is that the liberal version of "It's unpatriotic to criticize the president!"

If you're referring to me, I didn't have a problem with people correctly calling Bush a bad president. It went just a tad further than that though, even here.

larrymcg421 · 10-09-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Is that the liberal version of "It's unpatriotic to criticize the president!"

More like, "you said this was unpatriotic and now you're doing it."

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2009, 11:24 AM

Here's what inquiring minds really want to know:

Does he get the AL MVP award representing the White Sox? Or the NL MVP award since he's in Washington?

And how will his certain Cy Young win affect the MVP race? I'm thinking the White Sox jacket makes him a shoo-in for the AL but he did throw that pitch in St.Louis in a National League ballpark.

Could he sweep them both?

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

More like, "you said this was unpatriotic and now you're doing it."

Who? Not me.

Are you claiming that because someone else said that, all criticism of Obama is suspect?

duckman · 10-09-2009, 11:26 AM

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm so old I remember when many of these posters complained about Bush Derangement Syndrome.

You're old enough that your sarcasm is starting to just come off as grouchy. Or maybe it's more difficult defending the person in charge than it is in making snarky comments from the underdog position.

I think this is more Obama Amusement Syndrome than Obama Derangement Syndrome, at least for me. I've been chuckling all morning, not booking a flight to Oslo to protest.

stevew · 10-09-2009, 11:28 AM

He's also expected to win an AVN award for Best Threeway Sex Scene—Vid, for his performance in Fresh Meat 7.

cartman · 10-09-2009, 11:29 AM

There is a ton of conservative butt hurt in this thread. The whiplash from the gloating over Chicago not getting the Olympics to this is amazing to watch.

larrymcg421 · 10-09-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Who? Not me.

Didn't say you. I was simply correcting your interpretation of his statement.

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Didn't say you. I was simply correcting your interpretation of his statement.

He said "many of the posters in this thread", immediately after a post by me, so I assume he was referring to me.

Mustang · 10-09-2009, 11:30 AM

I haven't been this outraged since BYU won the football championship in 1984.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-09-2009, 11:31 AM

I wonder if he continues to do what he's done so far for seven more years, will we consider him among the greatest presidents? Before or after Lincoln?

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I wonder if he continues to do what he's done so far for seven more years, will we consider him among the greatest presidents? Before or after Lincoln?

I'm thinking he'll end up with most of his Presidential/Nobel peer group. Somewhere between Woodrow Wilson & Jimmy Carter.

JPhillips · 10-09-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

He said "many of the posters in this thread", immediately after a post by me, so I assume he was referring to me.

No, I didn't do a search, it's just from memory that BDS was discussed many times during the tenure of our last President. I'm perfectly willing to accept that you never mentioned it, but others in this thread certainly did.

CamEdwards · 10-09-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

There is a ton of conservative butt hurt in this thread. The whiplash from the gloating over Chicago not getting the Olympics to this is amazing to watch.

Butt hurt? Like conservatives were really pulling for a Dick Cheney Nobel Peace Prize and now we're upset that Obama came in and pulled off the upset?

No, sorry Cartman. There's a great deal of mirth that the Nobel Committee picked a guy based on "hope" rather than actual achievements. Given that the global celebrity-hood of Obama has cooled down quite a bit since his inauguration, it's really amusing to see him named the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Maybe there are conservatives frothing at the mouth over this, but I just think it's ridiculously amusing.

stevew · 10-09-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

There is a ton of conservative butt hurt in this thread. The whiplash from the gloating over Chicago not getting the Olympics to this is amazing to watch.

Nah, We all know Obama was saving his best pitch for his home country of Kenya for the 2020 games.

And Obama is not even comparable to the Nazi's anyways. The Nazi's got the olympics.

mtolson · 10-09-2009, 11:35 AM

Obama has had to deal with more crap in his first 9 months in office than MANY of the other presidents. Based on politics today, I can't believe anyone really thought he would be able to turn things around in that short of a period. It's gonna take some time to right that ship. To me, him winning this award shows the impart he is having on the international community with regard to our standing in it. Instead of bitching about it, I see it as a positive for ALL of us in that aspect. We should be proud that a US president is obtaining this level of respect !

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 10-09-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

There's a great deal of mirth that the Nobel Committee picked a guy based on "hope" rather than actual achievements.

That's how he was elected. Why should this be any different?

Big Fo · 10-09-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Uh oh... we better stop laughing.

DNC official: GOP siding with terrorists - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

Every time you laugh, the terrorists win.

The second paragraph is better.

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"The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize," DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. "Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.

"The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It's no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it's an embarrassing label to claim," Woodhouse said.

molson · 10-09-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

No, I didn't do a search, it's just from memory that BDS was discussed many times during the tenure of our last President. I'm perfectly willing to accept that you never mentioned it, but others in this thread certainly did.

I'm not sure what BDS is, but I definitely discussed how I thought the Bush criticisms were completely over the top (as are some of Obama), but that certainly doesn't include "bad president" in either instance.

I never, ever said that it's not patriotic to criticize the government or the president. That's just silly.

cartman · 10-09-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Butt hurt? Like conservatives were really pulling for a Dick Cheney Nobel Peace Prize and now we're upset that Obama came in and pulled off the upset?

No, sorry Cartman. There's a great deal of mirth that the Nobel Committee picked a guy based on "hope" rather than actual achievements. Given that the global celebrity-hood of Obama has cooled down quite a bit since his inauguration, it's really amusing to see him named the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Maybe there are conservatives frothing at the mouth over this, but I just think it's ridiculously amusing.

Sorry, I guess I missed the subtle nuance obviously in play about being happy that the US missed out on something that would reflect well upon the country was the same as mocking an award that reflects well upon the country.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mtolson

To me, him winning this award shows the impart he is having on the international community with regard to our standing in it. Instead of bitching about it, I see it as a positive for ALL of us in that aspect. We should be proud that a US president is obtaining this level of respect !

I'd laugh but that's too sad to be truly funny.

Of course other countries are happy to see him in office, he's the political equivalent of taxing the rich to death due to cash envy. I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of countries with a similar incompetent in office either, but it ain't with an eye toward their best interest.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-09-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Sorry, I guess I missed the subtle nuance obviously in play about being happy that the US missed out on something that would reflect well upon the country was the same as mocking an award that reflects well upon the country.

I'd hoped we'd gotten the Olympics and think that those who like the fact that Obama failed at something that obviously was important to him are partisan hacks.

I think Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize for making a few speeches is ridiculous.

I also think equating them without thinking that maybe there's a difference there is very partisan as well.

larrymcg421 · 10-09-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

The funny thing about that is that yes, he must have received the reward for his unfullfiled campaign rhetoric. All the fancy speeches and slogans. That makes sense, because he was definitely more effective there than during his presidency thus far.

Wait, you mean we have to vote again in November? Fuck! I'm assuming that Presidential terms are only 1 year now, because that's the only way it makes sense to criticize him for "unfulfilled campaign rhetoric" 8 months into his presidency.

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Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Good for Obama. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

10-09-2009, 10:35 AM	#59
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	I would have chimed in earlier, but I was on the phone with Oslo. My 4-year old daughter has won the Nobel Prize in Economics for her exciting work with piggybanks. I'm so excited! __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

10-09-2009, 10:45 AM	#60
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I wonder if SNL can do something good with this. I can picture something with him giving a press conference, with it repeatedly being interupted by an aide informing/giving him awards like the 2009 AL Cy Young, a Grammy, an Olympic medal, etc. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-09-2009, 10:58 AM	#63
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Insane... "They lauded the change in global mood wrought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation, and praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change." So I guess they haven't been watching Iran? Sending more troops to the Middle East and never withdrawing from Iraq? "Obama said he was surprised and deeply humbled by the honor, and planned to travel to Oslo to accept the prize, " Another wasted taxpayer-funded trip to Scandinavia Last edited by Galaxy : 10-09-2009 at 11:26 AM.

10-09-2009, 11:05 AM	#65
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	So I'm too lazy to look this up, but did he nominate himself? If not, why is everyone so up in arms about it throwing insults at him (like Steele and his irrelevant ilk)? I mean, if he didn't nominate himself, didn't campaign for it, what's he supposed to do if they give it to him...turn it down? I guess we shouldn't think too much about it, but I just don't see the issue other than the committee that gave a peace award to a terrorist made another silly choice. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

10-09-2009, 10:16 AM	#55
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Looks like the President is fashionably late to his news conference. You can hear the various reporters doing their reports in the background using words like 'stunned', 'pranked', and 'surprised' to describe the reactions of Obama's staff.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	At least they didn't give the award to Michael Phelps. Then again, they'd probably have 8 different peace prizes that can be won by swimmers. I mean, if Usain Bolt won the award, we'd all be wtf, but he probably deserves it more than Obama. I mean, you gotta figure for 9.6 seconds everyone chilled out, dropped their weapons, and watched the man run.

10-09-2009, 11:24 AM	#79
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Here's what inquiring minds really want to know: Does he get the AL MVP award representing the White Sox? Or the NL MVP award since he's in Washington? And how will his certain Cy Young win affect the MVP race? I'm thinking the White Sox jacket makes him a shoo-in for the AL but he did throw that pitch in St.Louis in a National League ballpark. Could he sweep them both? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	He's also expected to win an AVN award for Best Threeway Sex Scene—Vid, for his performance in Fresh Meat 7.

10-09-2009, 11:29 AM	#84
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	There is a ton of conservative butt hurt in this thread. The whiplash from the gloating over Chicago not getting the Olympics to this is amazing to watch. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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mtolson H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bowie, MD	Obama has had to deal with more crap in his first 9 months in office than MANY of the other presidents. Based on politics today, I can't believe anyone really thought he would be able to turn things around in that short of a period. It's gonna take some time to right that ship. To me, him winning this award shows the impart he is having on the international community with regard to our standing in it. Instead of bitching about it, I see it as a positive for ALL of us in that aspect. We should be proud that a US president is obtaining this level of respect !

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