Official Fire Can't Cameron / Release Trinterception Green / Kill Hizinger Thread - Page 2

Rizon · 10-14-2007, 03:14 PM

Is there anything more to say?

Izulde · 10-14-2007, 05:32 PM

Um, yeah.

The two girls I'm waiting for email replies from will answer me before the Dolphins win a game this year.

...And considering how remote it is that I'll get an answer, that's really fucking sad.

Greyroofoo · 10-14-2007, 07:02 PM

Normally I'd hear this kind of outrage from a Lion's fan.

EagleFan · 10-14-2007, 07:15 PM

Uh, it's just a game dude...

miami_fan · 10-14-2007, 07:40 PM

Ted Ginn Jr. has pulled into a four way tie for 22nd amongst rookies in receptions and is just 13 yards from breaking 100 yards receiving......for the year.

Jas_lov · 10-14-2007, 07:46 PM

If you think it's bad now, just wait until next week when the Patriots come to town! If the Browns can put up 41 on the Dolphins, you can probably envision that next week will be an absolute massacre. Will the spread of the game be higher than 21 points?

bulletsponge · 10-14-2007, 07:55 PM

at least theres hope with the #1 pick. is there a good KR thats a family friend of Cameron in next years draft?

Eaglesfan27 · 10-14-2007, 08:04 PM

Wrong thread.

Rizon · 10-14-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

at least theres hope with the #1 pick. is there a good KR thats a family friend of Cameron in next years draft?

I'd say we'll probably trade it for a used-up, backup quarterback, but we only do that with 2nd round picks. We'll probably draft a punter.

sterlingice · 10-14-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I'd say we'll probably trade it for a used-up, backup quarterback, but we only do that with 2nd round picks. We'll probably draft a punter.

I bet Damon Huard could be had for a 2nd but I suppose you've gone down that road before.

SI

larrymcg421 · 10-14-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I bet Damon Huard could be had for a 2nd but I suppose you've gone down that road before.

SI

Or he could've been had for nothing at all, but OMG look at Jay Fiedler's winning percentage!

Thanks Wanny.

Schmidty · 10-14-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

What is worse, rooting for a team owned by Huizenga or Angelos? Death is not an option.

Rooting for a team owned by William Clay Ford is worse than both of those by a million times.

Greyroofoo · 10-14-2007, 10:04 PM

true dat

Kodos · 10-14-2007, 11:37 PM

Remember when the Dolphins were consistently one of the upper echelon teams? Those were the days...

Schmidty · 10-14-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Remember when the Dolphins were consistently one of the upper echelon teams? Those were the days...

Remember when the Lions were consistently one of the upper echelon teams? Zombie Dwight D. Eisenhower does.

larrymcg421 · 10-15-2007, 02:20 AM

Wes Welker: 27 catches, 262 yards, 25.5 Kickoff Ret, 11.5 Punt Ret
Ted Ginn: 2 catches, 51 yards, 25.3 Kickoff Ret, 7.0 Punt Ret

Daunte Culpepper: 81.6 QB Rating
Trent Green: Not playing.

Fuck you, Cameron.

Subby · 10-15-2007, 08:36 AM

Silver lining: Cleo Lemon had a nice fantasty line this week!

Kodos · 10-15-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Wes Welker: 27 catches, 262 yards, 25.5 Kickoff Ret, 11.5 Punt Ret
Ted Ginn: 2 catches, 51 yards, 25.3 Kickoff Ret, 7.0 Punt Ret

Daunte Culpepper: 81.6 QB Rating
Trent Green: Not playing.

Fuck you, Cameron.

I love Welker. It is torture to see him play for of all teams the Patriots every week. Hell, I dislike the Patriots so much, I was actually rooting for the Cowboys yesterday.

Nuke the Fins from the top and start over.

Passacaglia · 10-15-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Wes Welker: 27 catches, 262 yards, 25.5 Kickoff Ret, 11.5 Punt Ret
Ted Ginn: 2 catches, 51 yards, 25.3 Kickoff Ret, 7.0 Punt Ret

Daunte Culpepper: 81.6 QB Rating
Trent Green: Not playing.

Fuck you, Cameron.

Do you really think Welker would have had stats like that on the Dolphins? Even if they still had Culpepper?

Kodos · 10-15-2007, 10:57 AM

I think the point is that we spent a top ten pick on a guy who is way worse than a guy who we had and traded away for a second round pick.

JAG · 10-15-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I was actually rooting for the Cowboys yesterday.

At least this explains the flying pigs I saw yesterday.

FrogMan · 10-15-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I love Welker. It is torture to see him play for of all teams the Patriots every week. Hell, I dislike the Patriots so much, I was actually rooting for the Cowboys yesterday.

Not to add salt to the wound, but of all the new WRs the Pats added this offseason, I gotta say I love watching Welker the most. Man is he leaving it all out on the field. His lateral to Moss last week (or was it the week before) was a thing of beauty.

FM

larrymcg421 · 10-15-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I think the point is that we spent a top ten pick on a guy who is way worse than a guy who we had and traded away for a second round pick.

Not only that, but we traded him to a division rival, helping them fill one of their only weaknesses.

Butter · 10-15-2007, 11:42 AM

To be fair, Ginn had 2 big returns this week, both negated by penalties. And the few balls that were thrown his way were behind him or sailing over his head.

miami_fan · 10-15-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Do you really think Welker would have had stats like that on the Dolphins? Even if they still had Culpepper?

With the clusterf*ck that was the QB situation last year. Welker caught 67 passes for 687 yards, 22.2 yards on kick returns and 9.2 yards on punt returns. I don't think it is unreasonale to think that he would have similar numbers this year if he were still with the Dolphins this year.

Big Fo · 10-15-2007, 04:53 PM

Honestly I've been a fan of the team for years and I'm taking this season a lot better than all the December choke jobs under Wannstedt. Lowered expectations ftw.

miami_fan · 10-16-2007, 02:03 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210

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The San Diego Chargers, looking for more offensive firepower, acquired wide receiver Chris Chambers from the Miami Dolphins, sources told ESPN.com's John Clayton.

Terms of the deal weren't immediately known, but the Dolphins and Chargers are expected to make an announcement before the NFL trading deadline closes at 4 p.m. ET.

I guess that means Ginn Jr. is starting?

I am expecting the line to jump to NE (-30) now.

Lathum · 10-16-2007, 02:08 PM

Chambers must feel like he has been paroled

larrymcg421 · 10-16-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210

I guess that means Ginn Jr. is starting?

I am expecting the line to jump to NE (-30) now.

Cameron sure likes to trade WR's. At least he went outside the division this time.

miami_fan · 10-16-2007, 02:14 PM

Jay Glazer is reporting that it might be a 2nd round pick.

larrymcg421 · 10-16-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Jay Glazer is reporting that it might be a 2nd round pick.

How nice of Cameron to get an extra pick for his successor.

kurtism · 10-16-2007, 02:42 PM

Excellent. Now Chambers can fail to get separation and drop passes for the PowderBolts!

Kodos · 10-16-2007, 02:42 PM

O.
M.
G.

Kodos · 10-16-2007, 02:47 PM

One has to wonder if they are just plain tanking now.

larrymcg421 · 10-16-2007, 02:54 PM

They are just lulling the Patriots into a false sense of security.

miami_fan · 10-16-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

One has to wonder if they are just plain tanking now.

Wondering?

Icy · 10-16-2007, 02:59 PM

Umm never liked "1% amazing catches 99% drops" Chambers so... good riddance. Now let's just start the young guys like Beck, Ginn and even Lorenzo Booker (how sad is to have him, a 3rd rounder, not even active?) and to see how good they are, as there is nothing else to do this season than to tank and to try to develop and test the "future" of this franchise.

rkmsuf · 10-16-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Umm never liked "1% amazing catches 99% drops" Chambers so... good riddance. Now let's just start the young guys like Beck, Ginn and even Lorenzo Booker (how sad is to have him, a 3rd rounder, not even active?) and to see how good they are, as there is nothing else to do this season than to tank and to try to develop and test the "future" of this franchise.

in a tribute to the coaching genius over there, no better than this week!

JAG · 10-16-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Terry Robiskie, a former Browns assistant and interim coach, now handles Dolphins receivers and is pleased with Ginn's progress.

''We didn't draft Ted like the Colts drafted (Anthony Gonzalez), to be their third guy, to play in the slot and catch 35, 40, 50 balls,'' Robiskie said. ''Ted wasn't drafted to be a starter. He was drafted to help in the kick-return game, on third down and to learn the game.

LOVE the signature btw. What an amazing quote.

miami_fan · 10-16-2007, 03:14 PM

Sadly that was sent to me by a Browns fan from the Akron Beacon Journal. A bit of trash talk before the game on Sunday.

AlexB · 10-16-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

They are horrible. The fact that I haven't seen them play yet is a plus. Zach should retire rather than go through this crap. Then they should blow up the team, get a new coach, owner, etc.

Why have I been cursed with Cameron twice?

Can't beleive I've missed this thread so far...

Every Miami game has been live on TV over here so far, and I've sat through 5 of them (would have been 6 but family emergency dictated otherwise).

We are horrible. So bad if they weren't my team I'd be laughing at us. I would never wish an injury on a player, but now Green is out, it is the best thing for the team. He was 38 and absolutely the worst QB I have seen in years. It was painful to watch.

Cleo looked OK against the Browns, but whenever he was under pressure he looked like he shit his pants. Even the play to Ginn he was lucky to get away from the rush, although once he did it was a nice pass again. But tbh I can;t get past having a QB actually wearing a label 'Lemon' on his back. And if he's the future, why the f**k did we spend a 2nd rounder on someone to hold a clipboard?

You've got to give a new HC time, but Cam's not helping himself with his personnel decisions - Ginn may turn out to be good in years to come, but it's a horrible short term move when aligned with 2nd & 3rd round picks that are inactive when eveyone else is healthy. Unless he is aiming for another couple of years of early draft picks to build a good roster...

And to help out our healthy QB corps that have 2 NFL starts between them, he gets rid of our top receiver for a 2nd round pick

. Way to help a rookie out, put another rookie, who by your own admission isn't ready to start in the NFL yet, instead of your leading receiver over the past few years.

I was really looking forward to the Wembley game, now it's only going to be an experience, rather than going with any expectation or hope of seeing my team actually win.

AlexB · 10-16-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Wes Welker: 27 catches, 262 yards, 25.5 Kickoff Ret, 11.5 Punt Ret
Ted Ginn: 2 catches, 51 yards, 25.3 Kickoff Ret, 7.0 Punt Ret

Daunte Culpepper: 81.6 QB Rating
Trent Green: Not playing.

Fuck you, Cameron.

How sad is it that we are actually quoting an 81.6 QB rating as the golden child we could have had? And I agree with the sentiment: I can't believe we spent a 2nd round pick to rehabilitate Culpepper before releasing him for free.

Kodos · 10-16-2007, 03:37 PM

Miami is obviously so loaded with talent at the WR position that they can afford to trade away Chris Chambers and Wes Welker for second round picks. Besides, it's not like the Patriots are likely to win the Super Bowl and turn that second into the 64th pick overall. No, that possibility seems quite remote to me.

larrymcg421 · 10-16-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

How sad is it that we are actually quoting an 81.6 QB rating as the golden child we could have had? And I agree with the sentiment: I can't believe we spent a 2nd round pick to rehabilitate Culpepper before releasing him for free.

Exactly. The fact that Culpepper even has a QB rating is enough to make the whole deal look bad.

bulletsponge · 10-16-2007, 06:17 PM

hehe this thread is pretty funny. even Raiders fans could have a laugh

Rizon · 10-16-2007, 09:09 PM

So I come home from a long stressful day at work to find this? Dolphins traded Chambers? Was Chambers not a family friend of Cameron?

Sure, Chambers never did develop into that #1 receiver he was supposed to be. But really, look who has been throwing him the ball over the years. I don't think that Marvin Harrison or Jerry Rice could have developed on this team, it's been so bad.

Didn't Can't Cameron just come from San Diego? Is he doing them a favor or something? That dumbass is probably just sucking some residual dick in San Diego or something.

I'm actually surprised Mueller is allowing this to happen. He's made some good decisions for other teams, but has been a complete bonehead since blessing Miami with his lack of intelligence. With this second round pick, Can't will probably just draft a kick-holder or longsnapper who is a family friend or a 3rd string QB who is a family friend.

Course, this all comes back down to Fat Fuck Wayne Huizinga, who I hope FUCKING DIES so I can shit on his grave.

I just have no hope for this team anymore, and I don't see any lights at the end of this tunnel.

Rizon · 10-16-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210

I guess that means Ginn Jr. is starting?

I am expecting the line to jump to NE (-30) now.

They're being very generous here. Maybe news of Chambers departure hasn't reached the Man.

Odds and Trends
All Odds Opening betED Sportsbook WSEX 5Dimes SPORTSBETTING
New England
Miami 51o -110
15 -110 51o -110
17 -110 51o -110
16.5 -110 51o -110
16.5 -110 51o -110
17 -120 51o -110
16.5 -110

Atocep · 10-16-2007, 09:16 PM

Chambers is horrible. One of the worst starting receivers in the NFL. They guy had a catch rate of 39% last year and 49% in his pro bowl year of '05.

Blame the Quarterbacks? Its a small part of the problem compared to Chambers' horrible ability to beat the jam, catch the ball, or run any route that isn't a straight line down the field. Welker had a catch rate of 67% last year and 56% in '05. Booker was 61% last year and 45% the year before.

The Dolphins were lucky to get a 2nd round pick for him.

Izulde · 10-16-2007, 10:14 PM

I know Chambers wasn't a true #1, but IMO he was the only decent receiver we had left.

Hell, maybe I should move to Miami and try out for the Dolphins.

Izulde · 10-16-2007, 10:15 PM

dola, it's just after 5 am here, so I'm hoping this Chambers trade is just a bad dream, especially since Marino, Culpepper and Chambers and the 3 Dolphins jerseys I have.

Not that that means anything of course.

10-14-2007, 05:32 PM	#52
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Um, yeah. The two girls I'm waiting for email replies from will answer me before the Dolphins win a game this year. ...And considering how remote it is that I'll get an answer, that's really fucking sad. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-14-2007, 07:40 PM	#55
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Look on the bright side...... Ted Ginn Jr. has pulled into a four way tie for 22nd amongst rookies in receptions and is just 13 yards from breaking 100 yards receiving......for the year. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

10-14-2007, 07:55 PM	#57
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	at least theres hope with the #1 pick. is there a good KR thats a family friend of Cameron in next years draft? Last edited by bulletsponge : 10-14-2007 at 07:55 PM.

10-14-2007, 08:04 PM	#58
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10-14-2007, 11:37 PM	#64
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10-14-2007, 07:02 PM	#53
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Normally I'd hear this kind of outrage from a Lion's fan.

10-14-2007, 07:15 PM	#54
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Uh, it's just a game dude...

10-14-2007, 07:46 PM	#56
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	If you think it's bad now, just wait until next week when the Patriots come to town! If the Browns can put up 41 on the Dolphins, you can probably envision that next week will be an absolute massacre. Will the spread of the game be higher than 21 points?

10-14-2007, 10:04 PM	#63
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	true dat

10-15-2007, 02:20 AM	#66
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10-15-2007, 08:36 AM	#67
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10-15-2007, 10:57 AM	#70
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think the point is that we spent a top ten pick on a guy who is way worse than a guy who we had and traded away for a second round pick.

10-15-2007, 11:42 AM	#74
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10-15-2007, 04:53 PM	#76
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Honestly I've been a fan of the team for years and I'm taking this season a lot better than all the December choke jobs under Wannstedt. Lowered expectations ftw.

10-16-2007, 02:08 PM	#78
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Chambers must feel like he has been paroled

10-16-2007, 02:14 PM	#80
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Jay Glazer is reporting that it might be a 2nd round pick. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

10-16-2007, 02:42 PM	#82
kurtism High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Noblesville	Excellent. Now Chambers can fail to get separation and drop passes for the PowderBolts!

10-16-2007, 02:47 PM	#84
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	One has to wonder if they are just plain tanking now.

10-16-2007, 02:54 PM	#85
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10-16-2007, 02:59 PM	#87
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Umm never liked "1% amazing catches 99% drops" Chambers so... good riddance. Now let's just start the young guys like Beck, Ginn and even Lorenzo Booker (how sad is to have him, a 3rd rounder, not even active?) and to see how good they are, as there is nothing else to do this season than to tank and to try to develop and test the "future" of this franchise. __________________

10-16-2007, 03:14 PM	#90
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Sadly that was sent to me by a Browns fan from the Akron Beacon Journal. A bit of trash talk before the game on Sunday. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

10-16-2007, 03:37 PM	#93
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Miami is obviously so loaded with talent at the WR position that they can afford to trade away Chris Chambers and Wes Welker for second round picks. Besides, it's not like the Patriots are likely to win the Super Bowl and turn that second into the 64th pick overall. No, that possibility seems quite remote to me.

10-16-2007, 06:17 PM	#95
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	hehe this thread is pretty funny. even Raiders fans could have a laugh

10-16-2007, 09:16 PM	#98
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Chambers is horrible. One of the worst starting receivers in the NFL. They guy had a catch rate of 39% last year and 49% in his pro bowl year of '05. Blame the Quarterbacks? Its a small part of the problem compared to Chambers' horrible ability to beat the jam, catch the ball, or run any route that isn't a straight line down the field. Welker had a catch rate of 67% last year and 56% in '05. Booker was 61% last year and 45% the year before. The Dolphins were lucky to get a 2nd round pick for him.

10-16-2007, 10:14 PM	#99
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I know Chambers wasn't a true #1, but IMO he was the only decent receiver we had left. Hell, maybe I should move to Miami and try out for the Dolphins. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-16-2007, 10:15 PM	#100
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	dola, it's just after 5 am here, so I'm hoping this Chambers trade is just a bad dream, especially since Marino, Culpepper and Chambers and the 3 Dolphins jerseys I have. Not that that means anything of course. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

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