College Football Week 10 thread (spoilers inside) - Page 2

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:05 PM

QB bad in what way? He's 4/7 in passing. He's got 66 yards rushing. WVU uses their QB in a different way.

General Mike · 11-02-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

That RB was actually the great FB (by WVU fan standards) Owen Schmidt.

Brian Leonard would've bounced off that guy and dragged him around his ankles for 20 yards.

LOL.

cthomer5000 · 11-02-2006, 09:06 PM

what better pocket passer or athletical qb

thanks

DeToxRox · 11-02-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

How did WVU get to be 7-0 with a QB that looks pretty bad tonight?

9/2 Marshall W 42-10
9/9 Eastern Wash W 52-3
9/14 Maryland W 45-24
9/23 at East Carolina W 27-10
10/7 at Miss State W 42-14
10/14 Syracuse W 41-17
10/20 at Connecticut W 37-11

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:07 PM

White leading a gutsy drive here when they need him the most.

Buccaneer · 11-02-2006, 09:07 PM

Well, he ran like a chicken with his head cut off against SU but then again, just about anyone could do that against them. Is this the first good team WVU has faced?

Buccaneer · 11-02-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

what better pocket passer or athletical qb

thanks

Brohm?

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:09 PM

WOW... what a 3rd down run by White!

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:12 PM

Damn... Pat White with a very impressive drive.

cthomer5000 · 11-02-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Damn... Pat White with a very impressive drive.

Hell yes. They can win this game without Slaton if the defense plays a little

rowech · 11-02-2006, 09:18 PM

Uhmmmm....can anyone explain why the whole WVU seems to major in Athletic Coaching Education? What a joke.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:20 PM

The way Louisville is playing, I think the turnovers earlier in the game may be too much even for Pat White to overcome.

Buccaneer · 11-02-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

The way Louisville is playing, I think the turnovers earlier in the game may be too much even for Pat White to overcome.

Did rest of the WVU offensive starters go out with injuries too?

Brohm: 311 yards
White: 180 yards

kingfc22 · 11-02-2006, 09:31 PM

Does either team plan on playing any defense this half?

DeToxRox · 11-02-2006, 09:32 PM

WVU drives back down and scores then totally botches the 2 PT conversion. Just ugly.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Did rest of the WVU offensive starters go out with injuries too?

Brohm: 311 yards
White: 180 yards

211 yds for White now. 166 for Slaton.

mtolson · 11-02-2006, 09:38 PM

I am a avid WV fan and Slaton is a very good back. He is Heisman caliber but he definetly appeared to have a arm injury contributing to the fumbles. WV has no chance of winning this game. No defense what so ever.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2006, 09:40 PM

Okay, is WVU playing with like only 7 people on defense or something?
Or is there some concern that the Louisville receivers may have some communicable disease?

My gracious, the series that I just turned on in time to see was as poor an excuse for a defense as I've ever seen. That was scary bad.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mtolson

I am a avid WV fan and Slaton is a very good back. He is Heisman caliber but he definetly appeared to have a arm injury contributing to the fumbles. WV has no chance of winning this game. No defense what so ever.

Nope... Brohm is shreding the defense.

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 09:53 PM

Ballgame.

To answer the questions about WVU's defense: Their defensive backfield lost four starters and was perceived to be the weakness of the defense coming into the season and tonight they have certainly proven that they are below average, at best.

I'm going to try not to get too down on WVU because I do believe Louisville is a very good team, particularly at home. Our offense had six fumbles, we lost one of our two major threats for a quarter (although that probably didn't matter), and gave up a punt return for a TD and fumble return for a TD. I don't think anyone anticipated that so much could go wrong. In fact, I figured the cold weather would affect Louisville's passing game much more than our run-based offense.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:55 PM

No let up for Louisville though.. Rutgers at New Brunswick next week, in perhaps the most surprising November undefeated matchup in a long while (well, maybe not Louisville

).

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 09:58 PM

How is Rutgers pass defense? I think Rutgers will be able to run against Louisville and get some points, but their passing game is damn near impossible to defend when Brohm is sharp (and I don't even really think he was at his best tonight).

timmynausea · 11-02-2006, 09:58 PM

I can't watch the rest. These are pretty evenly matched teams and Louisville got the breaks tonight. Now I have to decide if I can root for them to win it all (for the sake of the Big East.)

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 09:59 PM

cthomer, are you as scared as I am that Brohm's thumb looks to be fully healed tonight?

Next week will not be pretty. :scared:

cartman · 11-02-2006, 10:00 PM

It sounds to me like Herbstreit doesn't want to see his alma mater play Texas again for the BCS championship. Whenever they've discussed the group of one-loss teams, he never mentions Texas, even when they put a graphic up listing Texas as one of the Top 3 rated one loss teams.

Buccaneer · 11-02-2006, 10:02 PM

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our run-based offense

Which, I guess, becomes a liability if you need three scores in a hurry.

Logan · 11-02-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

How is Rutgers pass defense? I think Rutgers will be able to run against Louisville and get some points, but their passing game is damn near impossible to defend when Brohm is sharp (and I don't even really think he was at his best tonight).

The pass defense is improving. Jason McCourty has really started showing me something on one corner, and his twin brother Devin has made big plays in passing packages. But the key to the pass defense is the pass rush. We need to put a ton of pressure on Brohm to not give him enough time to pick us apart, while also causing some mistakes. That was the key in holding Palko in check. He came in to the game the #1 rated passer in the country, and outside of one drive, was completely ineffective as our rush was all over him constantly.

I can't fuckin wait for next Thursday. It really is nice to have graduated and to be in a financial situation where no amount of money would be able to buy my ticket. If I was still a student, and had a whole upcoming semester's worth of bar money being offered to me, it would be tough to pass up.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Which, I guess, becomes a liability if you need three scores in a hurry.

With this run based offense it isn't really the liability as it is in others

. As you can ask Louisville from their meeting last year.

cthomer5000 · 11-02-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

cthomer, are you as scared as I am that Brohm's thumb looks to be fully healed tonight?

Next week will not be pretty. :scared:

I hope our DBs can get closer than 10 yards from any of the WRs in coverage.

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Which, I guess, becomes a liability if you need three scores in a hurry.

Does anyone have a strength if you are down by three scores?

I don't know if you have been watching the game tonight or WVU over the past season and a half, but offense is not our problem.

Logan · 11-02-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I hope our DBs can get closer than 10 yards from any of the WRs in coverage.

Also true. Schiano seems to have cut some of that down since earlier in the season. Geez, that UNC game was terrible.

Warhammer · 11-02-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

It sounds to me like Herbstreit doesn't want to see his alma mater play Texas again for the BCS championship. Whenever they've discussed the group of one-loss teams, he never mentions Texas, even when they put a graphic up listing Texas as one of the Top 3 rated one loss teams.

Out of the one loss teams, Texas hasn't impressed me all that much... Then again, none of those teams have. It wouldn't surprise me to see a OSU - Michigan rematch in the title game if they play a close game in Columbus.

Galaxy · 11-02-2006, 10:09 PM

This start the clock before a play is snapped is the worst rule ever created.

General Mike · 11-02-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

How is Rutgers pass defense?

No bad, not good either. I think the pass rush is pretty good, and they did a nice job against Pitt, but thats really the only good passing attack they have faced this year.

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 10:10 PM

For the past couple of weeks, Herbstreit has seemed to be praying that no Big East team will finish the season undefeated. He went from acting like a one-loss SEC team or Texas or Notre Dame deserved it over an undefeated BE team TO saying that the BE is too deep for a team to come out of undefeated.

RPI-Fan · 11-02-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

This start the clock before a play is snapped is the worst rule ever created.

The one that's been in effect in the NFL and NCAA for decades?

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Out of the one loss teams, Texas hasn't impressed me all that much... Then again, none of those teams have. It wouldn't surprise me to see a OSU - Michigan rematch in the title game if they play a close game in Columbus.

Of the one-loss teams, Texas at least has the best lost (to Ohio State). When you start looking at all of the SEC teams and USC/Cal, they have all beaten up on one another (Tenn. over Cal, Florida over Tenn., Auburn over Florida, Arkansas big over Auburn, USC big over Arkansas, and then USC losing to an unranked Oregon St.) and it is really hard to differentiate one from the other in my opinion, because through the chain, USC is the best team, but they lost to an unranked team.

mtolson · 11-02-2006, 10:18 PM

Well, WV really has no one to blame but themselves. The fumbles are the difference in the game. However, Louisville did what they needed to do to win the game. Congrats.

cartman · 11-02-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

This start the clock before a play is snapped is the worst rule ever created.

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

The one that's been in effect in the NFL and NCAA for decades?

I think he means the clock restarting after a change of possession. I agree, that rule sucks.

cthomer5000 · 11-02-2006, 10:19 PM

...and everyone outside of Michigan, Ohio State, and Louisville now become huge Rutgers fans.

dawgfan · 11-02-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

WVU by at least 21 points. I just don't see it being much of a game. I think it's going to be OSU-WVU in the title game.

Quoted for posterity.

Easy Mac · 11-02-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Of the one-loss teams, Texas at least has the best lost (to Ohio State). When you start looking at all of the SEC teams and USC/Cal, they have all beaten up on one another (Tenn. over Cal, Florida over Tenn., Auburn over Florida, Arkansas big over Auburn, USC big over Arkansas, and then USC losing to an unranked Oregon St.) and it is really hard to differentiate one from the other in my opinion, because through the chain, USC is the best team, but they lost to an unranked team.

Wisconsin lost to Michigan, pretty good loss. Notre Dame also lost to michigan.

Pretty sure my list went (before tonight)
OSU
Michigan
WVU
Louisville
Rutgers
Boise State
Texas
Wisconsin
Notre Dame
Clemson
BYU
USC
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Tennessee
Cal
Texas A&M
BC

As sorted by BCS for the undefeateds, by who the 1-loss teams lost to (the first three to undefeateds, the next two to 2-loss teams, then USC lost to 3 loss OSU, then everyone who lost to the USC down the chain, then A&M who lost to 4 loss Texas Tech, then BC who lost to 5 loss NC State). Obviously this means nothing, just to show who "has the best loss".

VPI97 · 11-02-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Is this the first good team WVU has faced?

Neither team had played anyone currently in Sagarin's top 40. That's how you get to be 7-0 and ranked in the top 5. Both might be top 15 material, but their defenses are too bad to be deserving of anything more.

timmynausea · 11-02-2006, 10:40 PM

540 yards of offense and a loss. Damn.

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 10:41 PM

How far do you guys think WVU drops in the human polls?

Easy Mac · 11-02-2006, 10:41 PM

By the math I did from the Sagarin ratings, WVU averaged playing reams ranked around an 82 before tonight, Louisville around a 72, Boise State around an 89, Rutgers around 85, Ohio State around 52 and Michigan in the low 40s. This is an average, so its not scientific or anything.

duckman · 11-02-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

How far do you guys think WVU drops in the human polls?

10-12 spots.

Easy Mac · 11-02-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

How far do you guys think WVU drops in the human polls?

Down to around 8 or 9. No way they'd drop below even Arkansas or even an undefeated Rutgers.

Swaggs · 11-02-2006, 10:44 PM

I'm hoping they don't fall past 10 or 11, since their loss was on the road against the #5 team.

ISiddiqui · 11-02-2006, 10:44 PM

Yeah, I'm thinking around 8ish.

11-02-2006, 09:07 PM	#55
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	White leading a gutsy drive here when they need him the most. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2006, 09:09 PM	#58
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	WOW... what a 3rd down run by White! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2006, 09:12 PM	#59
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Damn... Pat White with a very impressive drive. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2006, 09:20 PM	#62
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	The way Louisville is playing, I think the turnovers earlier in the game may be too much even for Pat White to overcome. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2006, 09:31 PM	#64
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Does either team plan on playing any defense this half? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-02-2006, 09:07 PM	#56
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Well, he ran like a chicken with his head cut off against SU but then again, just about anyone could do that against them. Is this the first good team WVU has faced?

11-02-2006, 09:18 PM	#61
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	Uhmmmm....can anyone explain why the whole WVU seems to major in Athletic Coaching Education? What a joke.

11-02-2006, 09:32 PM	#65
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	WVU drives back down and scores then totally botches the 2 PT conversion. Just ugly.

11-02-2006, 09:38 PM	#67
mtolson H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bowie, MD	I am a avid WV fan and Slaton is a very good back. He is Heisman caliber but he definetly appeared to have a arm injury contributing to the fumbles. WV has no chance of winning this game. No defense what so ever.

11-02-2006, 09:40 PM	#68
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Okay, is WVU playing with like only 7 people on defense or something? Or is there some concern that the Louisville receivers may have some communicable disease? My gracious, the series that I just turned on in time to see was as poor an excuse for a defense as I've ever seen. That was scary bad. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-02-2006, 09:53 PM	#70
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Ballgame. To answer the questions about WVU's defense: Their defensive backfield lost four starters and was perceived to be the weakness of the defense coming into the season and tonight they have certainly proven that they are below average, at best. I'm going to try not to get too down on WVU because I do believe Louisville is a very good team, particularly at home. Our offense had six fumbles, we lost one of our two major threats for a quarter (although that probably didn't matter), and gave up a punt return for a TD and fumble return for a TD. I don't think anyone anticipated that so much could go wrong. In fact, I figured the cold weather would affect Louisville's passing game much more than our run-based offense. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers? Last edited by Swaggs : 11-02-2006 at 09:54 PM.

11-02-2006, 09:55 PM	#71
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	No let up for Louisville though.. Rutgers at New Brunswick next week, in perhaps the most surprising November undefeated matchup in a long while (well, maybe not Louisville ). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2006, 09:58 PM	#72
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	How is Rutgers pass defense? I think Rutgers will be able to run against Louisville and get some points, but their passing game is damn near impossible to defend when Brohm is sharp (and I don't even really think he was at his best tonight). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2006, 09:58 PM	#73
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	I can't watch the rest. These are pretty evenly matched teams and Louisville got the breaks tonight. Now I have to decide if I can root for them to win it all (for the sake of the Big East.)

11-02-2006, 09:59 PM	#74
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	cthomer, are you as scared as I am that Brohm's thumb looks to be fully healed tonight? Next week will not be pretty. :scared: __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-02-2006, 10:00 PM	#75
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	It sounds to me like Herbstreit doesn't want to see his alma mater play Texas again for the BCS championship. Whenever they've discussed the group of one-loss teams, he never mentions Texas, even when they put a graphic up listing Texas as one of the Top 3 rated one loss teams. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-02-2006, 10:09 PM	#83
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	This start the clock before a play is snapped is the worst rule ever created.

11-02-2006, 10:10 PM	#85
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	For the past couple of weeks, Herbstreit has seemed to be praying that no Big East team will finish the season undefeated. He went from acting like a one-loss SEC team or Texas or Notre Dame deserved it over an undefeated BE team TO saying that the BE is too deep for a team to come out of undefeated. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2006, 10:18 PM	#88
mtolson H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bowie, MD	Well, WV really has no one to blame but themselves. The fumbles are the difference in the game. However, Louisville did what they needed to do to win the game. Congrats.

11-02-2006, 10:40 PM	#94
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	540 yards of offense and a loss. Damn.

11-02-2006, 10:41 PM	#95
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	How far do you guys think WVU drops in the human polls? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2006, 10:41 PM	#96
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	By the math I did from the Sagarin ratings, WVU averaged playing reams ranked around an 82 before tonight, Louisville around a 72, Boise State around an 89, Rutgers around 85, Ohio State around 52 and Michigan in the low 40s. This is an average, so its not scientific or anything.

11-02-2006, 10:44 PM	#99
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm hoping they don't fall past 10 or 11, since their loss was on the road against the #5 team. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2006, 10:44 PM	#100
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, I'm thinking around 8ish. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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