Demo FM2007 Thread: Downloading and Gameplay Discussion: ((It's Out Early!!!)) - Page 2

henry296 · 09-30-2006, 08:51 PM

I can't get more than 15-17 Kb/s anywhere. I've tried every mirror.

FrogMan · 09-30-2006, 09:10 PM

downloading from this one:
ftp://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blu.../fm2007/fm2007

and getting a steady 170kb/s

FM

Flasch186 · 09-30-2006, 09:14 PM

i just tried to dive in, and I love it and plan on getting it but I cant tear myself away from 2006 and my Forest Green career to try it out much. Thumbs up to Marc and the guys but I'll wait until its fully ready and released.

hoosierdude · 09-30-2006, 09:26 PM

You know Flasch, I love the series of FM, but what really pains me every year is that my one or two beloved careers can't be upgraded to the next version.

If they could learn to upgrade the game to allow continued careers, when they can, it would really add to the sale for a lot of people...

I got a saved game with many many hours of play... MANY.. and I hate knowing I am going to lose that with the latest and greatest of FM when it is finally gold status.

MJ4H · 09-30-2006, 09:27 PM

I do not upgrade every year for that reason.

Fouts · 09-30-2006, 09:37 PM

What are the big reasons to buy this version (if you have FM2k6)?

so far I have seen;

-processing speed
-more media interaction
-more personnel interaction

Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

Flasch186 · 09-30-2006, 09:54 PM

Katon · 09-30-2006, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

What are the big reasons to buy this version (if you have FM2k6)?

so far I have seen;

-processing speed
-more media interaction
-more personnel interaction

Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

Haven't played the demo yet, but the scouting is meant to be majorly overhauled.

FrogMan · 09-30-2006, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

What are the big reasons to buy this version (if you have FM2k6)?

so far I have seen;

-processing speed
-more media interaction
-more personnel interaction

Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

SI Games did a development blog about FM2007, you can find a thread in here about it:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=52377

most blog postings were being crossposted to that thread...

FM

henry296 · 09-30-2006, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan

downloading from this one:
ftp://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blu.../fm2007/fm2007

and getting a steady 170kb/s

FM

I tried that same one. It must be either my cable connection or wireless network that is slowing it down for me. I did get the vanilla version and will try it out.

Desnudo · 10-01-2006, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

What are the big reasons to buy this version (if you have FM2k6)?

so far I have seen;

-processing speed
-more media interaction
-more personnel interaction

Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

Read the blog. In my opinion, this is groundbreaking stuff. Ridiculously ahead of any similar game and miles ahead of 2006. UI is the same, but so much better at the same time, as is the rest of the game. Just try it, it's free.

Marc Vaughan · 10-01-2006, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

There are around 100 noticable changes (ie. actual 'features' like the ones you've mentioned) as well as a load of under the hook tweaks to make the gameplay and suchlike feel more realistic ...

As mentioned elsewhere the 'blogs' which ran a few weeks back flesh out a number of these new features if you want to hear more.

Flasch186 · 10-01-2006, 07:35 AM

well, its not that I wont be upgrading because I can guarantee I will BUT I dont want to spend time with a demo where the career I start might have to be started over when I've got my '06 FG Rovers to deal with.

BreizhManu · 10-01-2006, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

What are the big reasons to buy this version (if you have FM2k6)?

so far I have seen;

-processing speed
-more media interaction
-more personnel interaction

Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

- Scouting really improved
- Feeder clubs
- Board looks more involved (e.g : limiting staff)
- Youth system and training grounds are 2 different attributes now.
- Staff more specialised

MrBug708 · 10-01-2006, 01:02 PM

Mark - How is the MLS superdraft? Are we going to see a barrenless United States team by 2016 still?

GoldenEagle · 10-01-2006, 01:04 PM

Marc, can you confirm (or deny) that USL leagues made it into this version?

Icy · 10-01-2006, 02:43 PM

Just back from holidays and it's out, downloading now, wooot!

illinifan999 · 10-01-2006, 03:08 PM

i keep getting a:

java.lang exception in thread "main" error

SirFozzie · 10-01-2006, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Marc, can you confirm (or deny) that USL leagues made it into this version?

I can deny that, at least as a playable league, and FC Toronto will not be in it either

Desnudo · 10-01-2006, 03:30 PM

Seems very stable for the first round. Hard to judge performance since the quickstarts always cruise for me due to the small DB. I do like the way highlights and tips show while the game is processing. I find myself actually watching the screen instead of surfing the web.

Icy · 10-01-2006, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinifan999

i keep getting a:

java.lang exception in thread "main" error

Did you extract both files into the zip to a temp folder and ran the exe from there or did you just click on the .exe into the zip file? If you just open the zip file and click on the .exe you will have that error, hapened to me too.

So the fix for me was to extract both files to a temp folder and then run the .exe

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinifan999

i keep getting a:

java.lang exception in thread "main" error

happened to me too. i just re-extracted the .zip file and that solved it.

illinifan999 · 10-01-2006, 05:29 PM

got it to work, thanks guys! demo is fantastic.

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 05:32 PM

I guess I'll do my usual and try once more to "grasp" this game. Happens every year.

I coach soccer and I just don't understand why I can't understand this game.

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I guess I'll do my usual and try once more to "grasp" this game. Happens every year.

I coach soccer and I just don't understand why I can't understand this game.

try harder. it's amazingly deep and fairly intuitive once you figure out the GUI.

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 05:57 PM

one thing i miss in 07 so far.

Seeing the aggregate scores up top with the game score in multi-leg competitions.

jbmagic · 10-01-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

try harder. it's amazingly deep and fairly intuitive once you figure out the GUI.

Is the game manual much easier for newbies to learn how to play fm 2007?

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Is the game manual much easier for newbies to learn how to play fm 2007?

i honestly havn't looked at the manual yet.

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

try harder. it's amazingly deep and fairly intuitive once you figure out the GUI.

That's why I keep trying.

I know I'm missing a stellar game, I just need to learn that darn GUI.

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

That's why I keep trying.

I know I'm missing a stellar game, I just need to learn that darn GUI.

if you ever have time to poke at it and want me to hop on AIM and walk you through whatever, I could spare some time to answer some questions there, or here.

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

if you ever have time to poke at it and want me to hop on AIM and walk you through whatever, I could spare some time to answer some questions there, or here.

I pm'd EaglesFan for some help, but I just might take you up on that sometime this week if you're around.

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I pm'd EaglesFan for some help, but I just might take you up on that sometime this week if you're around.

surething.

i should be around at least MTW for the better part of the day, although TH/F/S look like busts (part of a wedding)

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 07:16 PM

Thanks DT! I assume I should start with the "vanilla" demo and go from there?

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Thanks DT! I assume I should start with the "vanilla" demo and go from there?

the vanilla just has the english league. if you want to play in italy or spain or germany (or finland, norway or any of a few others, holland, etc.) then you should pick strawberry.

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 07:28 PM

I just figured the least amount of leagues, the better.

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2006, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I just figured the least amount of leagues, the better.

might make it easier as far as setup, yeah. honestly, if i was you too, I'd play as Chelski. You may hate them IRL, but their huge amounts of cash will allow you to get the most fun out of your demo-playing, in terms of raiding other teams and signing big-name players.

jbmagic · 10-01-2006, 07:34 PM

One of the confusing part of the game is the financial part of the game.

And loans and transfers not clear on that too.

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

might make it easier as far as setup, yeah. honestly, if i was you too, I'd play as Chelski. You may hate them IRL, but their huge amounts of cash will allow you to get the most fun out of your demo-playing, in terms of raiding other teams and signing big-name players.

I honestly don't follow soccer IRL, so I guess that would be a good place to start.. although I do like the idea of using the worst team in most text sports sims.

illinifan999 · 10-01-2006, 08:02 PM

Has anyone noticed insane transfer fees? I'm using the strawberry version Italy quickstart and Lazio offered Everton 41.5 million for Tim Cahill who is valued at 13.5. I'm using American dollars. Also when I read scouting reports they recommend offering like 25-31 million for a guy valued at 8.

Galaril · 10-01-2006, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

There are around 100 noticable changes (ie. actual 'features' like the ones you've mentioned) as well as a load of under the hook tweaks to make the gameplay and suchlike feel more realistic ...

As mentioned elsewhere the 'blogs' which ran a few weeks back flesh out a number of these new features if you want to hear more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Mark - How is the MLS superdraft? Are we going to see a barrenless United States team by 2016 still?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Marc, can you confirm (or deny) that USL leagues made it into this version?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I can deny that, at least as a playable league, and FC Toronto will not be in it either

So, of the 100 changes made the MLS, draft and league going all foreign players wasn't looked at. That is a shame. I guess FM 2006 will be good enough for acasual gamer with limited time and finances.

RPI-Fan · 10-01-2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril

So, of the 100 changes made the MLS, draft and league going all foreign players wasn't looked at. That is a shame. I guess FM 2006 will be good enough for acasual gamer with limited time and finances.

That's not really fair to say.

Now, I doubt that MLS was looked at strongly, but all that's been confirmed is that USL isn't playable. It's very possible MLS's draft got fixed.

FrogMan · 10-01-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinifan999

Has anyone noticed insane transfer fees? I'm using the strawberry version Italy quickstart and Lazio offered Everton 41.5 million for Tim Cahill who is valued at 13.5. I'm using American dollars. Also when I read scouting reports they recommend offering like 25-31 million for a guy valued at 8.

this was happening with FM2006 too. You gotta remember that value is always subjective. To get a player whom a team doesn't want to let go, you will have to pay the big bucks...

FM

Galaril · 10-01-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

That's not really fair to say.

Now, I doubt that MLS was looked at strongly, but all that's been confirmed is that USL isn't playable. It's very possible MLS's draft got fixed.

That is true I will admit. But, I have a number of times asked questions related to MLS on the SI board ove rthe years and it seems like there is very little interest in it as league in this game by the developer. If they are improving MLS other than the old " our researcher is working hard to improve this area" I would like to hear about the improvements. This game does still sell a fair amount in the US so it would be good to have the league play more realistically or time. If that is not a objective of SI just be like CM and not have the MLS league at all. Things like not having Toronto in the league is a good example.

Desnudo · 10-01-2006, 09:00 PM

It may sell well in N. America, but I'll bet a lot of the purchasers have never played a game in the MLS. I know I haven't.

GoldenEagle · 10-01-2006, 09:06 PM

I really wish they could have got the USL leagues in, even as fictional teams.

SirFozzie · 10-01-2006, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril

That is true I will admit. But, I have a number of times asked questions related to MLS on the SI board ove rthe years and it seems like there is very little interest in it as league in this game by the developer. If they are improving MLS other than the old " our researcher is working hard to improve this area" I would like to hear about the improvements. This game does still sell a fair amount in the US so it would be good to have the league play more realistically or time. If that is not a objective of SI just be like CM and not have the MLS league at all. Things like not having Toronto in the league is a good example.

That's because Toronto doesn't enter till next year, and SI's license does not cover it.

I was the Revs researcher, and I worked with the US researcher, and yes, the MLS draft was looked atg. He says it's improved, I haven't seen it, so I can't say jack shit about it. It's not really a yes/no situation

I know the USL isn't added, because they have no new leagues in this version.

I know FC Toronto isn't added, because Al (the researcher) told me.

MizzouRah · 10-01-2006, 09:29 PM

This has been said several times, but if FOF would have this much interaction with players, coaches, etc... and a field of little circles moving around a football field... WOW.

GoldenEagle · 10-01-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

That's because Toronto doesn't enter till next year, and SI's license does not cover it.

I was the Revs researcher, and I worked with the US researcher, and yes, the MLS draft was looked atg. He says it's improved, I haven't seen it, so I can't say jack shit about it. It's not really a yes/no situation

I know the USL isn't added, because they have no new leagues in this version.

I know FC Toronto isn't added, because Al (the researcher) told me.

Just because there is no new leagues added does not mean that they are no new divisions added.

illinifan999 · 10-01-2006, 09:42 PM

I cannot wait for this game to come out. The transfer window roundup is about the coolest news thing I've seen in a long time.

ISiddiqui · 10-01-2006, 09:48 PM

I'm also awaiting when the game comes out! All the changes really are incredible.

09-30-2006, 09:10 PM	#52
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	downloading from this one: ftp://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blu.../fm2007/fm2007 and getting a steady 170kb/s FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

09-30-2006, 09:14 PM	#53
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	i just tried to dive in, and I love it and plan on getting it but I cant tear myself away from 2006 and my Forest Green career to try it out much. Thumbs up to Marc and the guys but I'll wait until its fully ready and released. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-30-2006, 09:26 PM	#54
hoosierdude High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana	You know Flasch, I love the series of FM, but what really pains me every year is that my one or two beloved careers can't be upgraded to the next version. If they could learn to upgrade the game to allow continued careers, when they can, it would really add to the sale for a lot of people... I got a saved game with many many hours of play... MANY.. and I hate knowing I am going to lose that with the latest and greatest of FM when it is finally gold status. __________________ TC Dale "Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud - Sophocles"

09-30-2006, 09:27 PM	#55
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	I do not upgrade every year for that reason. __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

09-30-2006, 09:54 PM	#57
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	AI __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-30-2006, 09:37 PM	#56
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	What are the big reasons to buy this version (if you have FM2k6)? so far I have seen; -processing speed -more media interaction -more personnel interaction Anything else? I want to buy, but is it worth it?

10-01-2006, 07:35 AM	#63
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	well, its not that I wont be upgrading because I can guarantee I will BUT I dont want to spend time with a demo where the career I start might have to be started over when I've got my '06 FG Rovers to deal with. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-01-2006, 01:02 PM	#65
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Mark - How is the MLS superdraft? Are we going to see a barrenless United States team by 2016 still?

10-01-2006, 01:04 PM	#66
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Marc, can you confirm (or deny) that USL leagues made it into this version? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-01-2006, 02:43 PM	#67
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Just back from holidays and it's out, downloading now, wooot! __________________

10-01-2006, 03:08 PM	#68
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	i keep getting a: java.lang exception in thread "main" error __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-01-2006, 03:30 PM	#70
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Seems very stable for the first round. Hard to judge performance since the quickstarts always cruise for me due to the small DB. I do like the way highlights and tips show while the game is processing. I find myself actually watching the screen instead of surfing the web.

10-01-2006, 05:29 PM	#73
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	got it to work, thanks guys! demo is fantastic. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-01-2006, 05:32 PM	#74
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I guess I'll do my usual and try once more to "grasp" this game. Happens every year. I coach soccer and I just don't understand why I can't understand this game.

10-01-2006, 05:57 PM	#76
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	one thing i miss in 07 so far. Seeing the aggregate scores up top with the game score in multi-leg competitions.

10-01-2006, 07:16 PM	#83
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Thanks DT! I assume I should start with the "vanilla" demo and go from there?

10-01-2006, 07:28 PM	#85
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I just figured the least amount of leagues, the better.

10-01-2006, 07:34 PM	#87
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	One of the confusing part of the game is the financial part of the game. And loans and transfers not clear on that too.

10-01-2006, 08:02 PM	#89
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Has anyone noticed insane transfer fees? I'm using the strawberry version Italy quickstart and Lazio offered Everton 41.5 million for Tim Cahill who is valued at 13.5. I'm using American dollars. Also when I read scouting reports they recommend offering like 25-31 million for a guy valued at 8. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#94
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	It may sell well in N. America, but I'll bet a lot of the purchasers have never played a game in the MLS. I know I haven't.

10-01-2006, 09:06 PM	#95
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I really wish they could have got the USL leagues in, even as fictional teams. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-01-2006, 09:29 PM	#97
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	This has been said several times, but if FOF would have this much interaction with players, coaches, etc... and a field of little circles moving around a football field... WOW.

10-01-2006, 09:42 PM	#99
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I cannot wait for this game to come out. The transfer window roundup is about the coolest news thing I've seen in a long time. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-01-2006, 09:48 PM	#100
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I'm also awaiting when the game comes out! All the changes really are incredible. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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