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Former Cowboys legend Tony Dorsett spoke out on Monday against Tony Romo and his play at quarterback. He joined Fox Sports Radio to talk about how Tony Romo is not worthy of all the accolades he receives. "Well, for one thing, I don't know why on God's earth Tony Romo has been anointed a superstar in the National Football League. Tony is very young in his career. Not to say you can't be young in your career and be a superstar because you've got one up there in Minnesota in Adrian Peterson. But the thing is this: you have a guy who hasn't done much and quarterbacks in the National Football League, most of them go through this growing curve. He hasn't gone through that growing curve, but he was anointed this great player all of a sudden."
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It think the most relevant thing about the Dorsett (non)story is the phrase "former Cowboys legend". This seems for all the world like a guy missing the spotlight trying to get a few minutes back & the best he could manage was FSR time instead of the invite to Dancing With the Stars I suspect he really wanted.
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09-23-2009, 09:41 PM | #53 |
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I'm pissed, I travel on Sunday to Oakland so I will be missing the Saints game and I have to sell my tickets...that blows.
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At least he didn't fumble this opportunity. Edit: My Dad and I always enjoyed joking that there was a special Tony Dorsett ball that came with a handle due to his penchant for fumbling. Last edited by Kodos : 09-23-2009 at 10:02 PM. |
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09-23-2009, 10:07 PM | #55 |
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Romo gets attention because he was an undrafted FA and after 3 seasons he has a 94.2 QB rating. Anyone else who put up those kind of numbers in their first three seasons as a starter would be justly praised, but Romo gets shit on for some reason.
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09-23-2009, 10:17 PM | #57 |
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09-23-2009, 10:22 PM | #58 |
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LOL, we're basing this on two postseason games. Great sample size!
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Romo was praised and overpraised for a long time. Honeymoon's over, that's all. Won't be the first QB that has to deal with pressure about winning the big one.
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Dammit, we have to protect Romo! While he's on my fantasy team.
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After the first two weeks, my current hope for the Browns is that the Lions win a game before they play the Browns so we won't be the first team they beat. Yep, that's it. Enjoy my money, Mr. Lerner!
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But winning the big one is such a stupid criteria. As I pointed out a while back, Eli had only led the Giants to 3 points through 3 quarters in his Superbowl. What would the average expected score be for any other team vs. the Patriots that year? I mean, he could have played exactly the same and the Giants be down 30-3 with Jared Lorenzen warming up. It's great that he led that final drive, but he was lucky he even had that chance.
Jim Kelly is a "winner" if Norwood's kick sails through. Tom Brady is a "loser" who "can't get it done" if Viniateri misses all those kicks. Brett Favre is a "winner" because one year in his career with the league's #1 defense backing him, he did not choke. Labeling a guy with a 94.2 career QB rating as a loser because he failed in his first two postseason games is ridiculous.
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I would say Sunday night was a big game and he choked big time. And what about that embarrassment to end the season vs. the Eagles last year? 183 yeards, no TD's, 1 int, 2 fumbles lost. Or week 16 last year against the Ravens, threw 2 picks at home and lose. @ losses in a row to end the season when they had a chance to clinch. Instead they go 9-7. So thats 5 big games he didn't get the job done. And when you play QB for the Dallas Cowboys you are judged on playoff performances. |
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This is so incorrect. Part of the reason why the Pats only have 7 points through 3 quarters is because Eli didn't make stupid mistakes and put his defense in bad spots. Even I wouldn't be so dumb as to say the defense isn't the main reason the Giants won, but Eli stepped up in the 4th quarter, and where Romo would have fumbled or thrown a pick Eli led his team on a TD drive. |
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Or week 15 against the Giants where he threw for close to 250 yards with two touchdowns and zero interceptions. |
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LOL you are so delusional. Counting a week 2 game as a "big game" has got to be one of the most bogus ways to support an argument I've seen. I mean, if you're going to do that, why don't we look at his week 2 game against Philadelphia last year, when he went 21-30-312-3-1? Or the three game winning stretch against the NFC East last year (with wins @ PHI, @ NYG) where he threw 11 TD's and essentially clinched the division? And the week 15 game against the Giants last year is not a big game? I guess that wasn't as big as this year's week 2 game!
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You are insane if you don't think Romo and that whole organization didn't think Sunday's game was a big game. If you don't think there was added pressure you are out of your mind. People will perceive Romo as a failure until he wins a playoff game because he plays for Dallas and that is what is expected. |
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Uh, defenses didn't need to be in bad spots that year for the Patriots offense to rape them. For a relevant example, see the game the Cowboys played against them in the regular season, Romo only threw 1 pick (same as Eli in the Superbowl), but the defense gave up 48 points. In 2008, any time you punted against the Patriots, you put your defense in a bad position. Quote:
And what I'm saying is that he could have played exactly the same and lost 42-17.
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Huh? Who gives a fuck who he plays for? I'm just talking about whether the guy deserves to get shit on as much as he does. And I think it's ridiculous to shit on a QB who has three straight seasons of 90+ QB rating just because he failed in the first two postseason games of his career.
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There certainly was added pressure, Romo can be very good at times. And you can't not discuss who he plays for, when you are the Dallas Cowboys QB you are going to be under a microscope. |
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But they didn't, Eli was put in a position to lead his team down the field and win the game, which he did. Obviously this all hypothetical, but if Romo was in that position, chances are the Cowboys wouldn't have a shot in hell of winning it. |
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But that's entirely irrelevant to my point of whether he deserves the criticism he gets. It just explains why he gets it.
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And I'm saying that after 3 years, I think it's a little early to be so certain about that. After all, Eli himself was dreadful (much worse than Romo) in his first two postseason games.
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Would you agree, however, that as of right now, if Romo was put in that situation, or any kind of big time pressure spot, you can't say you would feel confident he's gonna get it done. I'll admit, as much as I dislike Romo and the Cowboys, you can't really argue with his numbers (I should add, I'm not really a numbers guy, I'll take the guy who can get it done when it counts), and he still has time to develop into a complete QB, but as of today, I, along with the majority of America (according to the sportsnation polls), am certain Romo can't get it done when it counts.
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Kelly didn't lose the game for his team by imploding, it was Norwood's fault. Same thing with Brady. If Viniateri misses those kicks, he is the one that gets blamed, not Brady. Quote:
This season's week 2 game was a big game because of the new stadium being opened up by Jerry Jones. Don't kid yourself, this was a HUGE game for the Cowboys, and you have to know that Jones is quite pissed that the unveiling of his legacy (he admitted as much) was tainted by a loss. A loss that could, and should, be placed on the shoulders of Romo (the defense didn't look very either though). It makes a big difference actually. Do you really think that Romo would get the same attention, positive or negative, if he played for Seattle? Or Tampa Bay? What about Jacksonville? Some teams, and subsequently their players, are held to higher standards and more is expected of them. Dallas is one of those teams. Quote:
I am not sure how Romo is being "shit" on as you have mentioned several times. I see it as him being justly criticized for his poor performance when it matters. Big games, playoff games, etc.. He received a lot of credit before he actually did anything, and now his dues need to be paid. I think he can still succeed, but I would not rate him in the top 10 QB's in the NFL right now.
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Tuck has a partially torn labrum, big deal?
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A partially torn lathum?!?
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After the first two weeks, this is also my current hope. Yep, that's it. Enjoy my money, Mr. Ford!
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I blame Tony Romo
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I turned on the Cowboys and Cardinals game last year. I was all ready to watch the Cowboys win, then I heard the announcer say before the game the atmosphere was like a playoff game. I turned off the tv.
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Well, apparently Tuck's shoulder is not nearly as big a deal as Phillips' knee, as he's shelved for the season. That's a pretty big blow, really looked like he was poised to take his game to the next level this yr and be a big playmaker on defense, not to mention that Ross and Dockery have been out thus far and, from what i read, aren't gonna be ready this weekend, either.
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Lions game is blacked out
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Bill Simmons on the Detroit blackout with the interesting point that the blackout rules may start backfiring on the NFL:
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Kinda sad to see how sad things have gotten for the Lions AND the Redskins. How far has the Skins reputation fallen that they don't sellout a game anywhere they go? When I was growing up the Redskins was a prime ticket going for high prices wether they were playing Dallas or Cleveland or Arizona. Everyone wanted to see them play.
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The Lions have been "sad" for a long, long time now. It's not like they had some great height to fall from say, since, the 1950's. While the economy certainly isn't helping ticket sales, if this team was even mediocre they would sell out Ford Field. But the last half of 2007 (1-7), all of 2008 and the beginning of 2009 have given no one anything to be excited about or even interested in. Calvin Johnson is amazing, but after that... it's poop. As for the Redskins, a friend of mine from DC who is a long-time Redskins fan (been to every Super Bowl they've played in, has two sets of season tickets, etc.) was going to come in for the game, but isn't because after last week's game thinks the Redskins "look really horrible" and "it would just be too painful to watch the Redskins become the first team to lose to the Lions since '07." I guess there is all kind of talk about how losing to the Lions this week would crush the Redskins and could lead to Jim Zorn getting fired and what not. I really would love to see that happen, since I am no fan of that team, but I don't think it will. The Lions are really, really bad still.
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It certainly is for me. The only reason I am going to the Lions game is because the ticket is free and I'll be in a suite. If not for those facts, I'd rather be at home and enjoy the day.
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Am I crazy for thinking the Bengals SHOULD win? They were terrible in week one, and still almost (and should have) won. They beat what I expected to be a fairly good Packer team on the road in week 2. What I've seen from Pittsburgh hasn't impressed me, they could easily be 0-2, and can't run the ball. It's a huge game for the Bengals, if they win this game, as terrible as it sounds, the whole city is back on board, if they lose......it'll be everyone say, same ole, same ole.
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How does the Red Zone channel handle blacked-out games?
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I am pretty sure it ignores the blackout and will show the portion of the blacked out game. I think I read that somewhere recently.
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