Total College Basketball Demo

[DaddyTorgo]

dola

with "very low" for ambition and "laid back" and "high emphasis on academics" it looks like i got a bunch more of the top teams (UNC...Duke...)

[ThunderingHERD]

Craig said that prestige is his top concern about any school. (07/16/05)

Ranked 12th in the nation from Oakland Park, Florida, and his top schools are:
1. Northwestern
2. Kent State
3. Providence
4. Wisconsin
5. Miami (OH)
6. Massachusetts
7. Kansas State
8. Iowa
9. Missouri
10. Texas A&M

[ThunderingHERD]

Just got into August:

Congratulations to you and your school, Coach. Jacobs Goree has been nominated for the prestigious Norton Award which is given out to the player who exemplifies hard work on the basketball court, in the classroom and in their community. Good luck to your player this season, coach.

I don't know anything about these awards, but the guy's a freshman.

[Zippo]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Just got into August:



I don't know anything about these awards, but the guy's a freshman.

Nice! I think the trophy case on the team info screen has the description of each awards.

[ThunderingHERD]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Ranked 12th in the nation from Oakland Park, Florida, and his top schools are:
1. Northwestern
2. Kent State
3. Providence
4. Wisconsin
5. Miami (OH)
6. Massachusetts
7. Kansas State
8. Iowa
9. Missouri
10. Texas A&M

Ok, this seems to shake out just fine by late August. All his top teams now are very prestigious.

[ThunderingHERD]

I can't seem to get the computer to coach my team's games when I watch them. I unchecked Human Control before the game, but it stills expects me to make substitutions.

[ThunderingHERD]

Gave up on watching the game and simmed it. Got a run time error 91.

[Icy]

Wow awesome christmas present. Now i just need more time to play BBCF anf TCB, my bussines and marriage is going to suffer a lot.

Gary, i also think the pbp must be there, as option for the ones who don't want it, but at least possible to read for the ones who want. It's specially usefull for online leagues, i like to read it for FBCB to know exactly what hapened in the game as the stats are not enought to figure if the last shot was in the last minute etc etc. Please add it as option if it's not a big problem for you.

[Emiliano]

Coool!

[ThunderingHERD]

Just had a guy take 30 shots in a game--28 of them three pointers.

[Groundhog]

I fired a coach and hired another. Then, with all my coach slots full, I selected the "View Coaches" button, and get:

Run-Time error '380': Invalid property value

[Gary Gorski]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Well, you mistook my example. What was meant by it, is that Michigan State isn't an elite prestigous basketball program. Indiana has fallen in recent years, but in my mind they are around where Michigan State is.

Michigan State is no Duke or North Carolina, and Indiana is no Vandy or UTEP in terms of prestige. They are both inbetween those levels.

Just a quick note on the prestige in the game. Prestige is made up of two numbers - one for current and one for historical with a heavy emphasis on historical. Indiana's historical prestige is higher than Michigan State in the initial file and in fact higher than anyone other than Duke and North Carolina. However like someone pointed out Indiana hasn't done much lately and today's 18 year olds are far more likely to view Michigan State as the better of the two programs which is where the current prestige comes in.

As you play each season your historical prestige is slightly affected and your current prestige is greatly affected so if you were to say win the national championship with Indiana you would likely become the highest rated prestige team in the nation but if you were to go 6-20 with Indiana you wouldn't fall too far unless you strung together like 10 years of 6-20s because you have so much historical prestige built up with the school.

[Gary Gorski]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

nope. i tried that. with custom and custom for the attributes and "average" for everything else, and there were certainly schools missing (Duke and BC for two).

Some schools who are highly rated for academics you will only be able to coach at if you have a better than average emphasis on academics (and this holds true later in the game as well).

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Indiana is no...UTEP in terms of prestige.

You're right...the Hoosiers haven't made the Big Dance the past two years, unlike the Mighty Miners.

[Gary Gorski]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Ranked 12th in the nation from Oakland Park, Florida, and his top schools are:
1. Northwestern
2. Kent State
3. Providence
4. Wisconsin
5. Miami (OH)
6. Massachusetts
7. Kansas State
8. Iowa
9. Missouri
10. Texas A&M

Without knowing what else the recruit had to say initially this *could* be the work of the recruit's parents. Each recruit has a parental influence which spans from never hearing from the parents once to hearing from the parents nearly every time you call. Depending on how involved the parents are it could cause for some conflict and an unusual school choice or two. For example the recruit here may have wanted to play for an elite school but his parents only care about him getting as much playing time as possible to try and be a pro prospect and these were the schools that had an immediate opening at the kid's position yet were still name schools.

And like you said, this list will change over time based on who is recruiting him and how the internal power struggle between recruit and parent shakes out. Also there is not a recruit/parent conflict for the majority of players - just a handful out of the bunch to keep it interesting and realistic.

[Gary Gorski]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Just got into August:



I don't know anything about these awards, but the guy's a freshman.

The Norton Award works the same as the Wooden Award - prior to the season the assumed to be top 50 players are nominated and then as the season goes along the list is cut down until one is voted on at the end.

[Gary Gorski]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

I fired a coach and hired another. Then, with all my coach slots full, I selected the "View Coaches" button, and get:

Run-Time error '380': Invalid property value

Thanks Groundhog. I've been able to fix the error. In the meantime if you exit the staff screen after you have refilled your staff and come back you should be able to click the view coaches button ok. It will only crash if you fire, hire and then try to view the coaches again right after.

[MizzouRah]

No Gary, NO!!

For anyone who has played the demo.. how is the 2d view look when watching a game?

I'm waiting a bit on this one as I don't have the time right now. :P

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I'm waiting a bit on this one as I don't have the time right now. :P

Ditto. This is a first for me. Between Civ4, BBCF and FOF2K4, I just don't have time to add a new game to the mix right now. Assuming reports are good, I'll probably buy it upon release, but I'm not sure when I'll get to give it a serious run-through.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Ditto. This is a first for me. Between Civ4, BBCF and FOF2K4, I just don't have time to add a new game to the mix right now. Assuming reports are good, I'll probably buy it upon release, but I'm not sure when I'll get to give it a serious run-through.

Same with me. I had about 15 games on my wishlists and got all but one (no love for Dominions II for some reason). Since I'm not a big college basketball fan anyway, I'm guessing this game will end up on the shelf but I'll probably still buy it within a few weeks of release assuming early reviews are good.

[ScottVib]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Ok, this seems to shake out just fine by late August. All his top teams now are very prestigious.

The top teams may not have shown him much interest prior to that.

[ScottVib]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

I can't seem to get the computer to coach my team's games when I watch them. I unchecked Human Control before the game, but it stills expects me to make substitutions.

Under the options button in game there is an option for Computer to make the subs. It'll make the subs based on your sub matrix.

[ScottVib]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

No Gary, NO!!

For anyone who has played the demo.. how is the 2d view look when watching a game?

I'm waiting a bit on this one as I don't have the time right now. :P

Much more fluid then TPB, I really enjoy the in game presentation, it really sucks you in (to the point of screaming at the screen SHOOT!).

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by ScottVib

This game is terrible, don't buy it MizzouRah, don't buy it!! If you do, bad luck will be bestoed upon you!

Noooooooooo!! Don't say that!!

Ok, fixed it for ya.

[ScottVib]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I must buy this game and give Gary my money!

Fixed it for you!

[Icy]

After an hour playing it i'm really excited about the final release. It's a must buy for me (it was before playing it anyway, but now it's even more). Again too bad we need to sleep, eat etc, what a waste of playing time.

[Sweed]

In the same boat with others here, not much time to add another game. I'm currently playing ehm, trying to learn wsm, about a half a season into tpb, and ootpbm is just around the corner

Having said that tcb just screams quality at you from the first screen you see.

If the game plays half as good as the opening screen looks, and using TPB as an example of what Gary can do, this game will rock.

With regard to the 2d view..
While not as good as fm2006 it is better that ehm and leaps and bounds ahead of tpb. I have played one exibition game just to see how the 2d looked. My first thought is that I will very rarely even look at the text portion of the screen. Why should I when I can see the game being played in front of me?

So MizzouRah, if you were hoping that the 2d would give you an excuse not to buy the game it's not going to work

[hoosiergoody]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

dont take this the wrong way but is this as buggy as the BBCF one? I still havnt gone back to BBCF until they fix the PBP and stuff. why would I when WWSM is so polished (except I cant get the f'n patch right now cuz im on digi-download!!)? Anyways, Im jonesin' to play BBCF but some of the PBP and things that happen are too wacky, right now....

so I ask again? What does everyone think of this TCB?

Hardly any bugs. Have seen some good suggestions and some great support on this so far. Gary had the privilege of already having the pro game released to be able to work off of to help squash initial issues.

Give the demo a try for yourself. Not everyone's opinions are the same anyways- some will always grumble just to grumble, and others will rave on positively.

I for one, am hooked already, and am waiting to spend my $$ for this one.

[SlyBelle1]

Count me in. I'm waiting for the final release and will buy immediately. I can't believe the quality that appears to have went into this game. No bugs for me yet. I'm sure something will creep up and I have made a number of "enhancement" suggestions, but nothing should prevent us from getting our hands on this soon

Very polished and good work. I usually wait for a patch or two before buying games like this. This one I can say I will buy right out of the gate.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Sweed

In the same boat with others here, not much time to add another game. I'm currently playing ehm, trying to learn wsm, about a half a season into tpb, and ootpbm is just around the corner

Having said that tcb just screams quality at you from the first screen you see.

If the game plays half as good as the opening screen looks, and using TPB as an example of what Gary can do, this game will rock.

With regard to the 2d view..
While not as good as fm2006 it is better that ehm and leaps and bounds ahead of tpb. I have played one exibition game just to see how the 2d looked. My first thought is that I will very rarely even look at the text portion of the screen. Why should I when I can see the game being played in front of me?

So MizzouRah, if you were hoping that the 2d would give you an excuse not to buy the game it's not going to work

Considering Gary's previous work (TPB), there's no doubt I'll buy it.. it's just a matter of when.

Thanks for the 2d information as well, talk about immersion.

[vex]

FOFC league?

[Radii]

Originally Posted by vexroid

FOFC league?

It will be interesting to see how TCB ends up playing out in multiplayer, and how its release effects the interest of the 30 or so active owners we have in our FBCB league, but there would need to be quite a bit of editing capabilities to consider a jump since we've already built up some history with certain teams rising up a bit, etc. I have no idea where that might go.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm in the same boat as others. Not enough time to play this now, but I'm fairly sure I'll buy this at some point.

[Emiliano]

Must-buy for me too. I haven't played around with the demo a lot, but it looks great. And, if I'm not wrong, we'll be able to import players in TPB, a thing that I LOVE to do.

Oh BTW, if we do the "FOFC TCB", I'm in.

[ThunderingHERD]

Ok, last night I was playing a game with Duke. Had a verbal from the #1 overall and #4 overall guys when the game crashed while trying to sim. I restarted from the autosave point at the beginning of the offseason and quickly made it through to the season, only bothering to recruit those two guys every week. I signed the #4 alright, but for some reason this time around I wasn't even in the #1 guy's top 10. The only thing I did differently was to offer him a scholarship on the very first week. What would cause this? I know the guys parents had said they didn't think we were a good fit--is this a case of "the internal power struggle between recruit and parent" shaking out differently?

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Icy

Gary, i also think the pbp must be there, as option for the ones who don't want it, but at least possible to read for the ones who want. It's specially usefull for online leagues, i like to read it for FBCB to know exactly what hapened in the game as the stats are not enought to figure if the last shot was in the last minute etc etc. Please add it as option if it's not a big problem for you.

yep this is very important especially for online leagues.

please make a detail pbp log an option for solo and online play.

[MJ4H]

Dear God this game is a frikin wet dream for me.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Minor something which I don't recall seeing mentioned in this thread yet.

Played my first game as Kennesaw State, decided I'd take a glance at the Almanac screen (or History?, the one where the single game/season/career records are shown).

Sure enough, there's my big man with his 21 point game listed as the single game points leader in conference history ... except that he's listed as playing for Boston (which isn't in the conference). Right name, right point total, attributed to the wrong school.

[Gary Gorski]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Minor something which I don't recall seeing mentioned in this thread yet.

Played my first game as Kennesaw State, decided I'd take a glance at the Almanac screen (or History?, the one where the single game/season/career records are shown).

Sure enough, there's my big man with his 21 point game listed as the single game points leader in conference history ... except that he's listed as playing for Boston (which isn't in the conference). Right name, right point total, attributed to the wrong school.

Just out of curiosity so I can fix it was the 21 point game against Boston or is Boston just there by some random act?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

Just out of curiosity so I can fix it was the 21 point game against Boston or is Boston just there by some random act?

Totally random, we were blown out by The Citadel.

[Groundhog]

Steals look to be too high. I just completed a season, and the national leader in steals is nabbing himself a handy 7.4 a game, including a season high of 16. In real life the current leader, excluding those that have only played a few games, is grabbing 3.9 through 9 games.

[SlyBelle1]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm in the same boat as others. Not enough time to play this now, but I'm fairly sure I'll buy this at some point.

I guess I'm in the opposite boat. I have plenty of spare vacation time this week for this game since there really are no others I'm playing right now. Once I go back to work next week, will also be difficult for me to keep up with this one.

I'm really hoping this is released this week so I can get some time in with it. Otherwise, may have to wait awhile. From my standpoint, the game seems very polished. Most of the issues mentioned on the GDS board appear to be more suggestions than actual problems with the gameplay (including my own). Therefore, those could always potentially be addressed in a future patch Let the fun begin!!!

[Gary Gorski]

Its not going to be released this week. I want to clean up a few of the issues mentioned, maybe add in a few of the suggestions and we're continuing to test to make sure the long term stuff is as good and bug free as the single season stuff. I've heard from many people so far that they are impressed the demo is as crash and bug free as it is so there's no reason I shouldn't take the time to make sure the release follows suit.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Since Gary made a recent appearance in the thread ... just FYI, I go back to the almanac screen several reloads later (not problem related, just playing a game, stopping, playing another game later, stopping, etc.) ... and there's my guy still listed for Boston, as is every other player from Kennesaw who makes any of the lists. BUT when I check the conference stats instead of the records, they are all credited properly to Kennesaw.

Don't know if that matters or helps track down the glitch, but figured I'd mention it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Incidentally, while I'm in the thread ... how the heck do I get back to my emails between days? I can't find a button to click & if I've already read them then clicking the little wheel thingy in the upper left (where it says something about "New Messages" when they arrive) does nothing. I feel like a goof but I'm having a heck of a time navigating this thing.

[Zippo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Incidentally, while I'm in the thread ... how the heck do I get back to my emails between days? I can't find a button to click & if I've already read them then clicking the little wheel thingy in the upper left (where it says something about "New Messages" when they arrive) does nothing. I feel like a goof but I'm having a heck of a time navigating this thing.

I think what you are looking for is the "house" icon beside your name on the top bar to get back to your "home" (coach's office).

[SlyBelle1]

Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

Its not going to be released this week. I want to clean up a few of the issues mentioned, maybe add in a few of the suggestions and we're continuing to test to make sure the long term stuff is as good and bug free as the single season stuff. I've heard from many people so far that they are impressed the demo is as crash and bug free as it is so there's no reason I shouldn't take the time to make sure the release follows suit.

No problem. I'm sure you'll release when you think its ready.

[ThunderingHERD]

Has anyone else noticed a lack of substantial upsets?

[Gary Gorski]

What kind of upsets are you talking about? Are you talking about upsets during the season or during the tournament and what do you consider to be a substantial upset?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Has anyone else noticed a lack of substantial upsets?

I dunno, Georgia Southern beating Duke in week 3 seemed pretty substantial