August Console Sales Numbers (post 179)

[MikeVic]

About an hour or so.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

This actually looks like it could be a lot of fun. I played the original game quite a bit............

Red Baron Arcade to Take-off on PlayStation Network Sept. 18

This is your captain speaking. Strap on that flight suit, as Sierra Online has cleared Red Baron Arcade for take-off on PlayStation network on Sept. 18, 2008. An intense arcade air combat game with online multiplayer capabilities, Red Baron Arcade follows burgeoning pilots as they take to the unfriendly skies and compete to rise through the ranks of the Red Baron’s squadron.

Set in the midst of World War I, Red Baron Arcade pits players against the best pilots of the century in devious dogfights, where they must swoop and dodge their way to victory. Manning the gun turrets on WWI-themed aircraft, players can battle conniving computer AI, or wage war against up to seven other aspiring “Aces” online in Deathmatch, Team-Deathmatch, and Capture the Flag modes.

Co-piloting with the release of Red Baron Arcade will be a free PlayStation Network demo of the game. And as a PlayStation Network first, recruits will get a taste of the multiplayer action to test their acrobatic flying skills against other Red Baron Arcade pilots in a special battle arena available in the Red Baron Arcade demo for up to eight players online.

Trailer:
YouTube - Red Baron Arcade for PlayStation Network

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

New Infinite Undiscovery video now up.........

Gamekyo : Infinite Undiscovery: new video

PS3 Day at the Amazon Goldbox site. Prices for the games will be posted when they go up for sale. Below is the list.......

http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox

Deal of the Day: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

6AM PDT Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII

10AM PDT Playstation 3 Logitech Driving Force GT Racing Wheel

12PM PDT Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction

2PM PDT Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

4PM PDT Devil May Cry 4

6PM PDT Haze

[Big Fo]

I might get Ratchet depending on how good the deal is. GT5 Prologue was tempting but I can hold out for the real deal.

[MikeVic]

Quick question about the PS3... I was told that you could access your computer through your home network and play MP3s, videos, look at pictures, etc. on the TV that the PS3 is connected to...

What are the limitations on this? Can I access any .mpg, .avi, etc. video files? I'm guessing you can't play .wma music files... and I'd assume .jpg are handled for images...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Quick question about the PS3... I was told that you could access your computer through your home network and play MP3s, videos, look at pictures, etc. on the TV that the PS3 is connected to...

What are the limitations on this? Can I access any .mpg, .avi, etc. video files? I'm guessing you can't play .wma music files... and I'd assume .jpg are handled for images...

Here's a few good threads on how to set up file sharing. There have been some recent firmware updates that have added additional functionality and there are various programs you can download to the PS3 to play some of the files that the PS3 can't handle directly. I believe that the 2.5 firmware update may have additional multimedia options.

Here's a couple of threads from the Playstation board..........

Apache Tomcat/5.5 - Error report

Apache Tomcat/5.5 - Error report

This thread has some good pictures to help set up the file sharing.........

GameSpot Forums - PlayStation 3 - How to setup Media Server

FYI....search 'how to access pc from ps3' on any search engine to find more info.

[Calis]

I use TVersity as a media server on my PS3 and while it was a bit of a pain to get working properly, it will now play almost anything I throw at it. Very cool program, and something we usually constantly at my place. You can get it running pretty easily but if you want it to support nearly everything it can get kind of hairy.

Another cool program I heard about this week that I encourage people try out is PlayOn, which only took a simple install and then my PS3 automatically found it and I was ready to go. This program allows you to view all the things on Hulu.com which is a ton, and has a couple other sites, and has Netflix support on the way. Works great though.

http://www.themediamall.com/playon

There's the website for PlayOn. It's not a free application, but you get a 60 day beta trial when you grab it. I thin it's only $30 after that so I'm almost certainly buying it when my trial ends.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Early Infinite Undiscovery review is out. IGN gives it a 7.1.

Infinite Undiscovery review

Pretty rough deal for 360 users as there was hopes that Too Human and Infinite Undiscovery would help the fall exclusive lineup for the 360, which was already relatively thin. Both have not reviewed well.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Here's a few good threads on how to set up file sharing. There have been some recent firmware updates that have added additional functionality and there are various programs you can download to the PS3 to play some of the files that the PS3 can't handle directly. I believe that the 2.5 firmware update may have additional multimedia options.

Here's a couple of threads from the Playstation board..........

Apache Tomcat/5.5 - Error report

Apache Tomcat/5.5 - Error report

This thread has some good pictures to help set up the file sharing.........

GameSpot Forums - PlayStation 3 - How to setup Media Server

FYI....search 'how to access pc from ps3' on any search engine to find more info.

The first two links give me some error. I used the third link to get MP3s to show up on my new PS3, but .AVI files are not showing up... I had .MPG files show up and now they're flaky. I've had to reset my computer and turn off/on my PS3 multiple times to get changes to show up from my media server, but I'm guessing that's just how it is.

Originally Posted by Calis

I use TVersity as a media server on my PS3 and while it was a bit of a pain to get working properly, it will now play almost anything I throw at it. Very cool program, and something we usually constantly at my place. You can get it running pretty easily but if you want it to support nearly everything it can get kind of hairy.

Another cool program I heard about this week that I encourage people try out is PlayOn, which only took a simple install and then my PS3 automatically found it and I was ready to go. This program allows you to view all the things on Hulu.com which is a ton, and has a couple other sites, and has Netflix support on the way. Works great though.

PlayOn! | MediaMall Technologies

There's the website for PlayOn. It's not a free application, but you get a 60 day beta trial when you grab it. I thin it's only $30 after that so I'm almost certainly buying it when my trial ends.

Did you start using a 3rd-party program because you found that video files weren't even showing up on the PS3?

[Big Fo]

An interesting article about "greener gaming."

link

This has been a very interesting week for us in Bentonville. We had the opportunity to bring in folks from Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony as well as Electronic Arts, Activision and American Game Factory for a “green gaming summit.” It was truly eye opening. We also had a representative from the Natural Resources Defense Council to assist us in this process. We talked about a lot at this meeting about packaging, power consumption and education. There is a lot of work to be done and I am really proud that Sam’s Club is helping to drive this change. Here are some things we discussed:



* There were about 101 Million games sold in plastic cases last year. That translates into green house gas emissions equal to over 9,000 cars!
* Some of the next generation consoles can be used to play DVD or Blu-Ray media. Doing this uses more energy, a LOT more, than a stand alone DVD or Blu-Ray player.
* If we left one of a sample of our next generation consoles on 24/7/365, we consume as much energy as TWO refrigerators in that same timeframe!
* If half of us did this, consoles alone would consume as much energy as it takes to power a city like San Diego.



It really made me take pause and question what I am doing as a part of the industry to make a difference. I have a small daughter and want to ensure that she has a better life then I do. Certainly, that is the hope of all parents in the world. So, what can we do?



* Switching to cardboard packaging would be like taking almost 4,000 cars off the road in terms of equivalent green house gas emissions.
* Working with console manufacturers on coding and power usage design can reduce the power consumption when we use our devices for media playback.
* Developing software and hardware that allows us to save the game so we do not have to leave it on would allow us to turn it off during a meal break or overnight without loosing our place. Additionally, come clever programming would allow the console to go into a lower power, standby mode when not in use.
* Focusing on the next generation of consoles would allow the machines to be built from the ground up to use less power while providing an even better experience.



There is no reason that we cannot make such a difference. We believe that games are an important and worthwhile part of our lives. They can enrich our experiences, allow us to relax and explore while challenging our skills mentally and in some cases physically. The goals of sustainability and the gaming experience are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, they should move forward on the same track. I am proud to be a part of this and ensure that we are helping influence the industry to become even more sustainable. It is time to change the game as we should not be playing games with the environment.



How important is this to you as a gamer? Did you know about power usage and consoles? Would it make a difference to you as a consumer if you had options? Are you ready for a green gaming revolution?

I don't want to trash the environment and all but I do like plastic game cases and that the PS3 plays Blu-Rays and DVDs. Those cardboard boxes from the SNES days just don't hold up all that well and I doubt video games will ever be half as popular as refrigerators. There's probably some more pressing environmental concerns to sort out before this.

[Big Fo]

Square-Enix to buy Tecmo?

kotaku.com link

Tecmo Bowl RPG plz...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

EA complains that second hand sales are killing them. Here's a novel idea.......how about you start releasing quality games that make people want to buy them at full price at release rather than releasing crapware that is often sold back quickly by early adopters and floods the market with used copies of your games? Instead of that, they're looking for another way to maximize revenue rather than fixing the core problem.

EA: Second-hand sales are a "critical situation" // News

Tough break for Microsoft holiday lineup. GTAIV exclusive DLC now not coming until early 2009.

videogaming247 » Blog Archive » Source: GTA IV DLC to launch in “January or February” next year

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

An interesting article about "greener gaming."

link

I don't want to trash the environment and all but I do like plastic game cases and that the PS3 plays Blu-Rays and DVDs. Those cardboard boxes from the SNES days just don't hold up all that well and I doubt video games will ever be half as popular as refrigerators. There's probably some more pressing environmental concerns to sort out before this.

I completely disagree. I love it that they are keeping the environment in mind in their business and discussing ways to do better. This is what all companies/industries should be doing. Certainly the power consumption of consoles is a drop in the bucket compared to cars or refrigerators (to use their example), but it's not like these people are saying, "Where should we spend our time? Making greener cars or videogames? Videogames it is!"

No. The industry is simply looking to see what they can do better. And if it means that I'll get games in cardboard instead of plastic, I'm all for it.

If everyone does what they can to improve their environmental impact, we'll be in a MUCH better place.

[Big Fo]

That's a good point the environment will be helped by looking at ways to reduce pollution all across the board as opposed to only focusing on cars, factories, and other big pollutants. I would like to see the next-gen machines use less power for sure. It's just those cardboard boxes, ugh...

[MikeVic]

TVersity worked with .AVI, and seemed more solid than Media Player with regards to refreshing files I added. Thanks for the recommendation.

Anyone have a recommendation for an app to use on the Mac? A coworker tried something but it didn't work well.

[Deattribution]

Wouldn't shipping in cardboard boxes mean having to cut down millions of trees to make them?

[MikeVic]

Where do you guys buy Blu Ray movies? The best I've seen are 2/$50 deals at stores...

[hukarez]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Where do you guys buy Blu Ray movies? The best I've seen are 2/$50 deals at stores...

I usually snag the ones on sale (like my Rambo collection), but my friend swears by eBay for his movies.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by hukarez

I usually snag the ones on sale (like my Rambo collection), but my friend swears by eBay for his movies.

I mean, how much do sale Blu Rays cost? Do they get cheaper than 2/$50?

[hukarez]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I mean, how much do sale Blu Rays cost? Do they get cheaper than 2/$50?

For me, honestly, it's usually at Fry's or Best Buy where I"ll snag a BD movie.

I guess a BD movie on sale that I'd take note at are ones that go for $24 @ Best Buy, and some that have hit $19 over at Fry's.

Lately, I've been doing the whole Box-Set thing (Rambo, Starship F'in Troopers Trilogy) during the initial sale at Best Buy where $10-$20 gets knocked off or what not. As for average pricing that I've seen, it's usually $22.99 - $34.99 that I see movies run for. In all honesty, I suppose that 2/$50 (compared to where I go locally here in town) seems like a better deal.

If you're looking for cheaper prices, then you'd probably want to take my friend's route of eBay - but I don't have the patience for auction sites. I think he picked up Casino Royale for $11 or so on BD.

Not sure if I've addressed your inquiry, but that's just my in my location of interest over here. =l

[Calis]

Well the brutal(on my wallet) gaming part of the year is officially here for me. I picked up Tales of Vesperia on Friday and have really been enjoying it. Very fun JRPG for anyone who's interested in the genre. Just got back from Best Buy to pick up Mercenaries 2 as well, which I've heard mixed reviews on but I loved the first one so I couldn't pass it up.

It's only going to get worse also. I'm going to end up with a load of unfinished games.

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by Calis

Well the brutal(on my wallet) gaming part of the year is officially here for me. I picked up Tales of Vesperia on Friday and have really been enjoying it. Very fun JRPG for anyone who's interested in the genre. Just got back from Best Buy to pick up Mercenaries 2 as well, which I've heard mixed reviews on but I loved the first one so I couldn't pass it up.

It's only going to get worse also. I'm going to end up with a load of unfinished games.

Yeah I know what you mean. September alone is a real killer. I try and keep myself from only buying one or two games a month but there's over a half dozen good games coming out that I'm going to want to play. I'll have to rent a few of them down the road or pick them up cheap in early 09.

Spore, Civ IV: Colonization, and Dragon Quest IV are must haves so I'll have to pass on NHL 09, Wario Land: Shake It, and Kirby Superstar Ultra for now.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Couple of new announcements for some PS3 exclusives.

1. Little Big Planet will have downloadable Disney characters and levels.
2. Infamous is now slated for a May 2009 release date.

Also, saw an interesting post over at Kotaku talking about the shift of development resources away from Japan and into other markets. Development resources have moved to the U.S., Europe, and even India. The HD console market is quickly becoming a two sided war, with the 360 being the better selling console in North America, while the PS3 has now moved ahead in Europe despite the late start.

Payton: Japan's No Longer the Center of the Gaming Universe and Developers Know It

[Calis]

The new Tiger Woods with 4-player simultaneous play is a thing of beauty. I can't believe they took this long to implement that. Had a blast playing it last night.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Calis

The new Tiger Woods with 4-player simultaneous play is a thing of beauty. I can't believe they took this long to implement that. Had a blast playing it last night.

4-player simultaneous play? Can you explain?

[Calis]

Originally Posted by wade moore

4-player simultaneous play? Can you explain?

You can go online with up to 4 other people. You actually don't have to wait for your turn, you're all hitting at once. You'll see the ball and trail for the other players shots in a different color moving along the course. You set a timer beforehand putting a cap of say 30 seconds per shot.

It works great. You can play through a round very quickly and still have the fun of playing multi.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Calis

You can go online with up to 4 other people. You actually don't have to wait for your turn, you're all hitting at once. You'll see the ball and trail for the other players shots in a different color moving along the course. You set a timer beforehand putting a cap of say 30 seconds per shot.

It works great. You can play through a round very quickly and still have the fun of playing multi.

That has been in Hot Shots Golf already. It's certainly not a new feature to the golf genre.

[wade moore]

that sounds pretty cool.

[Calis]

I don't think anyone said it was a new feature. It was also in the 360 version of Links several years ago. EA is just doing the usual belated adaptation of great mechanics.

I'm actually liking the new Tiger more than even the newest Hot Shots which I loved. I still like Hot Shots swing mechanic more, but apart from that and the graphics I think Tiger trumps it this year. It's not a major overhaul but enough tweaks and additions to make it a pretty fun game.

I didn't play last years, because I heard terrible things about it..so I can't compare how much has changed, but this seems to be getting pretty positive reviews.

[Cringer]

I guess I will post this in this thread. Maybe we should just start a long-running 360 Games thread or something, I don't know.

So the wife and daughter went to Target and picked up Viva Pinata: Trouble In Paradise, aka VP 2. She got the first one has has played it for 2 years now, even up until last week. She has never really tired of it. In fact it was last week I was looking something up for her about it online that I discovered #2 was coming out this week. She was extremely excited as I showed her all the videos and stuff I could find on it.

So we got it and started playing it. Very good version of the game so far. Graphics are pretty much the same, maybe a little better. They made everything better though and that is why it is great so far. More pinatas, better camera control, new areas, new tasks, different play modes. You can play two at a time with the 2nd person helping the 1st (which I am sure we will try this weekend).

They pulled a couple Nintendo trickswhich I can't blame them. There are these little cards you can get (5 free come in the Target version of the game) that kind of push you into getting the web/gamecam attachment. If you have it then you put the card in front of it and the pinata on the card will be transported into the game. They also have XBox Live gameplay now, and include a free download of an episode of the cartoon in the box. Smart moves I think on both things, along with pricing the game at $39.99 when I expected the typical price of $59.99.

Just an early impression, but I think they have done more to expand this game and they did it well. It is a fun little game for myself, and my daughters favorite game hands down. Now she can actually get me to play at the same time which she is going to love I think.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Deattribution

Wouldn't shipping in cardboard boxes mean having to cut down millions of trees to make them?

Well, unless you went largely cardboard from recycled materials.

That said, I don't think we're talking the little skinny cardboard cases that we saw in the SNES days.

Particularly not with optical media instead of plastic cartridges.

My guess is, we'll see plastic-reinforced cardboard, kind of along the lines of some of the "green" jewel cases we've seen from the recording industry.

Plastic still gets used for the disc spindle and such, but the outer part of the package winds up being cardboard. Still goes on the shelf the way a blu-ray or DVD case does, but winds up being much, much slimmer. And "greener."

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I mean, how much do sale Blu Rays cost? Do they get cheaper than 2/$50?

Yes they can, and do.

Well, I can't speak for Canada, but in the US, they do.

I've got around 60 BD's, and I can count on one hand the number of BD's I've paid more than $15 for. Heck, Best Buy and some online retailers have a handful of Fox titles for around $15 this week.

You aren't going to walk into any random B&M and see them for that price the way you do regular DVDs (although that day is coming), but with any kind of diligence at all, you can find most major consumer films in the $15-20 range.

Not true of all movies. I'm still trying to find The Counterfeiters in that price range, but since it's a foreign language movie, it may take me a while.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

Yes they can, and do.

Well, I can't speak for Canada, but in the US, they do.

I've got around 60 BD's, and I can count on one hand the number of BD's I've paid more than $15 for. Heck, Best Buy and some online retailers have a handful of Fox titles for around $15 this week.

You aren't going to walk into any random B&M and see them for that price the way you do regular DVDs (although that day is coming), but with any kind of diligence at all, you can find most major consumer films in the $15-20 range.

Not true of all movies. I'm still trying to find The Counterfeiters in that price range, but since it's a foreign language movie, it may take me a while.

Yeah, the pricing of Blu-ray discs has been a pleasant surprise. They're not quite down to DVD pricing yet, but the difference in pricing is coming down much quicker than most industry experts had predicted. The large influx of Blu-ray players this holiday season should help as well. I haven't paid more than $20 for any Blu-ray movie.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Tons of new stories coming out of PAX 2008 and the build-up to TGS 2008. Eurogamer suggests GTAIV DLC may come this November instead of 2009........

videogaming247 » Blog Archive » EG source: GTA IV DLC on track for November

6 new Little Big Planet videos from PAX 2008.............

Gametrailers.com - LittleBigPlanet - PAX 08: Walkthrough Part 1 (Cam)
Gametrailers.com - LittleBigPlanet - PAX 08: Walkthrough Part 2 (Cam)
Gametrailers.com - LittleBigPlanet - PAX 2008: Walkthrough Part 3 (Cam)
Gametrailers.com - LittleBigPlanet - PAX 2008: Walkthrough Part 4 (Cam)
Gametrailers.com - LittleBigPlanet - PAX 2008: Walkthrough Part 5 (Cam)
Gametrailers.com - LittleBigPlanet - PAX 2008: Walkthrough Part 6 (Cam)

New Resistance 2 gameplay video.........

Gametrailers.com - Resistance 2 - PAX 2008: Log Cabin Gameplay

Hands on preview of Resistance 2 8 player co-op campaign mode......

Feature : Resistance 2: EXCLUSIVE Co-op and Leviathan Details! [PS3] - from GamePro.com

Rumor circulating that Kingdom Hearts 3 is a PS3 exclusive. Possible announcement at Tokyo Game Show.........

RUMOR: OPM Rumor’s Kingdom Hearts III at TGS « GOONL!NE

White Knight Chronicles now dated as a December 11th release in Japan. Here's a recent trailer.........

WKC Releasing December 11th(Japan)[I Told You So, Thread] - GameTrailers.com Forums

[sterlingice]

That's a shame, about Kingdom Hearts. I always thought it would have a better home on Nintendo consoles

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

That's a shame, about Kingdom Hearts. I always thought it would have a better home on Nintendo consoles

SI

There a good chance that a spinoff game from Kingdom Hearts 2 could make it to the Wii or DS. This specific rumor only relates to KH3.

[cartman]

It is not good when one of the pioneers of the format says that Blu-Ray only has "5 years left".

Samsung: Blu-ray Has Five Years Left, OLED the Next Big Thing - Tom's Hardware

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

There a good chance that a spinoff game from Kingdom Hearts 2 could make it to the Wii or DS. This specific rumor only relates to KH3.

IIRC, there's already a KH game slated for the DS.

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

IIRC, there's already a KH game slated for the DS.

SI

You probably are right. I knew one was likely, but hadn't seen anything official. Probably just missed it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

It is not good when one of the pioneers of the format says that Blu-Ray only has "5 years left".

Samsung: Blu-ray Has Five Years Left, OLED the Next Big Thing - Tom's Hardware

Obviously, you omitted the comment immediately afterwards that stated that the format 'is going to be huge'.

FWIW......there's a lot of executives that make a lot of claims about how things will be 5-10 years from now. They're rarely correct. There's not a single analyst that was right about any of the consoles in this current gen.

[MikeVic]

Regarding TVersity... it seems after I reboot after an install, the service/sharing never works again. Anyone have this problem?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

New book is being released detailing the story behind the high failure rate of the Xbox 360 console. Bullet points are listed below.........

-In August 2005, a quality engineer asked management to shut down the manufacturing line due to quality control issues. 68% of the units being produced at that time were defective. Manufacturing continued without stoppage.

-Also in August 2005, overheating chips, cracking heat sinks, cosmetic issues with the HDD and front panel, under-performing graphics memory chips, and a DVD drive problem were all reported but were not addressed.

-Chip yields on the three-core microprocessor in August 2005 were only 16% (83% were faulty).

-Design engineer staff in AMD and Microsoft were both severely understaffed.

-Microsoft executives Peter Moore and Robbie Bach were ultimately responsible for the decision to release the Xbox 360 with major defects while concerns in the company were high that the return rate would be out of control. Lack of testing lead to incomplete data for the executive decision makers.

-The reason for the shortage of Xbox 360's throughout its lifespan was the high defect rate of 360's coming off the processing line, not a shortage due to high sales. Best case scenario in late 2005 was that 70% of Xbox 360's produced would make it to the store shelves, and even that was a rare feat.

-Microsoft saved $2 million dollars in early 2005 by cutting back pre-release testing, which lead to many problems not being found.

-In March 2006, 3.3 million consoles had been shipped. Already at that point, 500,000 Xbox 360's had been returned. Support staff was working double shifts to keep up with the complaint call volume.

-In spring 2006, the yield rate on the new Zephyr model, which was designed to reduce defects, was 50-75%. Best case scenario was that 25% of the consoles produced were defective and never even left the factory.

-By early 2007 (15 months after release), over 1.2 million consoles had been returned. This doesn't even include the hundreds of thousands of defective units that never made it to the retail shelves.

-In 2007, Microsoft created the Falcon chipset, hoping to fix the problem. Yield rate on that line was only 85%, well under the 90%+ rate that they were hoping for. In addition, internal memos show that the IBM microprocessors were still exhibiting "excessive failures".

-The 'shortage' of Xbox 360's in the first 6 months of 2007 was an attempt to try to fix the high failure rates in the console. The PR comments by Microsoft that there was a shortage of the console due to high sales was totally fabricated.

-At the beginning of 2008, 15% of the Xbox 360's being produced were defective and never left the factory. Generally acceptable rate for most electronics hardware is 2%.

Xbox 360 defects: an inside history of Microsoft’s video game console woes » VentureBeat

[CraigSca]

Which, again, shows what a massive failure this generation has been for Sony.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Which, again, shows what a massive failure this generation has been for Sony.

Haha.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Which, again, shows what a massive failure this generation has been for Sony.

Sony has its own issues and appears to have dealt with them at this point as they are outselling the 360 in all three major sales regions at this point on a monthly basis. While the pricing issue was a big problem, quality was never a concern with the PS3.

Microsoft has already taken a major consumer confidence hit from this issue. The release of this book detailing that the MS executives knew there were issues and released the console anyway will only further the problem.

[Oilers9911]

More keyboard diahrrea from MBBF against the XBox. Why do you rarely (if ever) link to articles critical of the PS3?

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Which, again, shows what a massive failure this generation has been for Sony.

awesome.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

More keyboard diahrrea

This gave me a vision of someone taking a shit on their keyboard. And yet I still cant stop laughing at the comment.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

More keyboard diahrrea from MBBF against the XBox. Why do you rarely (if ever) link to articles critical of the PS3?

I've been very critical of the PS3 on several instances and have posted numerous articles on the inept comments and decisions of the Sony management regarding the release screw-ups, but don't let that stop you from a good rant that has nothing to do with the topic.

Many on this board repeatedly denied there were issues with the 360 despite the mounting evidence to the contrary. Will you be calling them out for their false arguments and assumptions?

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

More keyboard diahrrea from MBBF against the XBox. Why do you rarely (if ever) link to articles critical of the PS3?

PS3 and Wii don't have massive failure/return rates