Alright Boyz, Here we Go! The DDS: College Basketball First Impressions Thread - Page 2

Gary Gorski · 11-07-2007, 09:06 AM

ok good suggestion - we'll see if we can work that in somehow.

As for the improvements so far everything we've heard has been that the game is far deeper in recruiting yet surprisingly not time consuming and definitely less tedious than TCB. I think we really did a good job adding value and at the same time took away the things that really made recruiting a chore sometimes. Our beta forums are open to the public so you might want to read some of the reactions posted in there and if you want to be able to test drive it yourself without putting the money down now definitely just keep tabs on it and wait for the official demo which will be available around release time.

Icy · 11-07-2007, 02:30 PM

I have created a real NCAA mod already with real team and conference names, two styles of team logos and conference logos. I'll keep updating it with my own and other mod makers tuff.

http://www.wolverinestudios.com/foru...ead.php?t=3614

Emiliano · 11-07-2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

I have created a real NCAA mod already with real team and conference names, two styles of team logos and conference logos. I'll keep updating it with my own and other mod makers tuff.

http://www.wolverinestudios.com/foru...ead.php?t=3614

Awesome man! Thanks.

Gary Gorski · 12-14-2007, 11:11 AM

We're happy to announce that we're about ready to wrap up our open beta testing period and officially release version 1.0 - this is scheduled for Tuesday, December 18th. In the meantime if you are on the fence here's a couple of videos to keep you entertained and looking forward to our game.

Also I've left the pre-order price in the webstore. Once we put up v1.0 it will change back and I was going to actually cut off the pre-orders now but there's been many people here who have shown their support for my work and games over the years so until 1.0 is actually live and on the site I'll leave it in the store with the 15% discount for you guys

Coach Lineage
http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down.../llineage.html
Track the entire coaching “family tree” of every coach in the history of your league. See which coaches have been the most successful in teaching their assistants what it takes to make it on their own.

Player Recruiting
http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down...ing%20vid.html
Our already deep recruiting system just got better! Check out the new pitch and focus areas, the ability to call up recruits and converse with them and gather the info you need to determine if he’s the right fit for your school. Check out the massive amount of detail on each recruit – even down to info on his parents who could play a role in his decision making.

Almanac
http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down...c/almanac.html
Check out the detail of the history stored for your league. Go back and look up past award winners, pre and post season tournament winners, team, coach and player records and historical standings for each and every season you’ve played!

In Game Experience
http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down...me/ingame.html
We’ve redesigned our gameplay screen to provide you with much more on court 2D action and our new player icons make it even easier to determine on court matchups and visualize the game. Take a look at the wide array of coaching options you have at your fingertips including the ability to choose different motivation tactics to try and fire up a listless team or heap praise on your boys for a job well done.

Galaril · 12-14-2007, 08:53 PM

I must say that having pre-ordered and been a fairly active and critical beta tester this is a good game. I f anyone is a basketball fan they definitely should pick it up. I really can't say enough about how open to suggestions gary has been during the beat process and it is obvious he has tried to accomodate even suggestions from individuals alone if they were worthy suggestions that is.
The game is very solid and the "too much clicking or having to go four screens down and back to do one thing has been greatly eliminated and the UI is much more streamlined. Also, I would say that this is the only sports text sim other than SI's Football Manager and the now defunct hockey game they had that really get's immersive and caring about things. That is at least compared to the greater body of sports text sims.

Icy · 12-15-2007, 05:39 AM

Totally agree with Galaril, i'm really impressed both with the game quallity and with Gary's openness regarding new features and suggestions. I think this open beta idea has worked really well, the game is really polished and shouldn't be any important bug in the final release. I love how he has implemented players personalities, still not at the level of FM but getting pretty close, that is something really new for a college sim and that makes you really feel like a college coach. This is going to be one of the games of the year imho as FBCB was in the past.

Ragone · 12-15-2007, 07:16 AM

So umm, i'm kinda curious.. is there a bubble watch and a tourney selection show?

markprior22 · 12-15-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

So umm, i'm kinda curious.. is there a bubble watch and a tourney selection show?

yes to both

Icy · 12-18-2007, 07:51 PM

Bump, the game will be released today evening EST time. I have released already an All-in-One NCAA installer with logos, courts, real teams nicknames, conferences etc etc.

WSUCougar · 12-18-2007, 08:17 PM

Icy, you da man!

Icy · 12-18-2007, 08:22 PM

Game is out!

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Originally Posted by Gary Gorsky

You can now head over to our webstore and pick up your copy of Draft Day Sports: College Basketball! If you want to get a jump on downloading the game it is available here.

A few immediate notes on the game. For anyone interested we'll be making a demo and it should be available by this weekend. I'm also going to take the approach to patching/updating the game as I did in beta. I will be releasing "beta updates" as I finish them so shortly after 1.0 there will be 1.01, 1.02 and so on until all the fixes and additions are verified correct and then it will officially be 1.1. We have a number of additions and updates that will be making their way into the game from the great suggestions given to us by those who participated in the open beta for the game so be sure to check these forums frequently for the latest updates.

The game also will be compatible with DDS: Pro Basketball. However, in order to do that an update needs to happen on the Pro side. I will be working to finish that update as soon as possible so that you can get the dual functionality going between the games.

Thank you as always for your support. I'm looking forward to the responses from you guys (and to sitting down and starting my own dynasty too). College Hoops is my favorite sport and I think it really shows in the depth and fun of the game. Enjoy DDS:CB!

Here is the info about the all in one NCAA installer:
http://www.wolverinestudios.com/foru...ead.php?t=3614

DaddyTorgo · 12-18-2007, 08:55 PM

Icy rocks. And I need to try the demo for this game.

Gary Gorski · 12-18-2007, 10:02 PM

Going to try and have the demo out this weekend for anyone interested

King of New York · 12-18-2007, 10:55 PM

Congrats, Gary.

Seeing as how I might be the biggest TCB Homer on this board, I went ahead and pre-ordered a few days ago. I probably won't get a chance to play until after Xmas, but I am looking forward to taking it for a spin.

Thanks, Icy, for the mod--seriously, you should get a medal or something.

Carman Bulldog · 12-18-2007, 11:02 PM

Does an admin want to change this to the "Alright Boyz, here we go! DDSCB First Impressions Thread"?

I would but I don't believe I can edit my own thread titles.

As it is, don't wait for the demo. I barely follow any basketball and really only watch the college game during March Madness, but have played many college hoops sims and must say that this is one of the best sports sim games period.

mauchow · 12-19-2007, 12:13 AM

Me has been having fun since two weeks ago when I pre ordered and helped out(not really) with the Beta Testing.

Emiliano · 12-19-2007, 01:22 AM

Congrats on the release Gary!

miami_fan · 12-19-2007, 06:47 AM

Congrats Gary. Been looking for this for a while.

Gary Gorski · 12-19-2007, 06:58 AM

Also for anyone who didn't read my thread at Wolverine about the game I've decided I really like the open beta approach and am taking the same kind of approach to the game post-release. Rather than fixing/adding things, internally testing and then releasing large updates I'm just going to put out mini-updates as I complete them as beta updates. So shortly there will be a 1.01, 1.02 etc until those new fixes or additions have been tested and we officially call it 1.1

Additional features from our suggestions forums during beta testing have been compiled and are in the plans to be added in as we go to make the game even deeper than it is now as well.

rjolley · 12-19-2007, 07:04 AM

For the FBCB fans out there, is this the game to take it's place? I liked TCB, but always found myself going back to FBCB. It was just a better game for me.

Edit: Gary, has the special ended, both the discount on this game and the package with this and the pro game? Also, is there a discount for owners of TPB to move up to DDS: Pro?

Pumpy Tudors · 12-19-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Does an admin want to change this to the "Alright Boyz, here we go! DDSCB First Impressions Thread"?

I would but I don't believe I can edit my own thread titles.

If I remember correctly, try double-clicking on your thread instead of single-clicking it to open it up. Double-clicking the thread title should allow you to change it.

Gary Gorski · 12-19-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

For the FBCB fans out there, is this the game to take it's place? I liked TCB, but always found myself going back to FBCB. It was just a better game for me.

Edit: Gary, has the special ended, both the discount on this game and the package with this and the pro game? Also, is there a discount for owners of TPB to move up to DDS: Pro?

Of course I'm going to be biased here but I think this game really takes what was good in TCB and brings it to the next level. I added a lot to the recruiting aspect of the game while not increasing the "work" to recruit and while reducing the number of clicks it took to do it. There's all kinds of media info - headlines, magazine stories and I really tried to move it in that FM/CM direction by adding the ability to interact with your players and have the players interact with each other as well making you manage personalities rather than just numbers on a screen. Plus the enhanced features like the full coach lineage feature that tracks coaching trees from every coach, the ability to look up any player that ever played for any team, the full screen 2D with icons of different sizes to show height/weight matchups and all of the historical tracking info that just lets you get lost in the game. As good as I felt TCB was - this is just a whole new level.

The pre-order deal has ended now that we released the game but we still have the bundle on the pro and college game in our webstore.

rjolley · 12-19-2007, 09:57 AM

Ok, thanks Gary. I'm definitely going to pick this up, and the pro game as well.

DaddyTorgo · 12-19-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

The pre-order deal has ended now that we released the game but we still have the bundle on the pro and college game in our webstore.

I hate you and your bundled goodness!!!*

*sarcasm*

Gary Gorski · 12-19-2007, 10:46 AM

btw if anyone is looking for a run down on some new things to the game go here

http://www.wolverinestudios.com/

we've got a special DDS:CB intro page there with all kinds of screens and the videos to check out

rjolley · 12-19-2007, 10:51 AM

If I can figure out how to get Paypal to pay without a CC assigned (have some money in the account), I'll buy this today. If I could've figured it out last week, I would've bought it then.

astrosfan64 · 12-19-2007, 01:09 PM

I'm looking forward to trying the demo. Is it a demo where i can play 1 season, or the type that is only active for 3 real life days?

I noticed that the price is up to $40.00 for this game. That makes it the highest priced text based simmulation in the business.

WWSM, OOTP 8, WMMA, FOF 2k7 and even your pro game is cheaper.

Any reason this one costs more?

Gary Gorski · 12-19-2007, 01:28 PM

The demo is going to be limited to a partial season but will not expire. We had some issues with the 3 day full trial that we didn't expect and/or like so we're just going back to the old method of creating a separate demo that you can upgrade from by downloading another update.

The price is $39.95 now (and that's one reason we did the month and a half long pre-order with 15% off so it would work out to be even cheaper than it used to be at release) and really the reason it is priced at that point is because I think the game is worth it. My titles typically have new versions every two years and I continue to update them over that time as well. For instance right before the start of the NBA season I did a pro update with new rosters and a couple new items - the game was released last season so I tried to make it fresh again for the new NBA season. On top of that it's a hell of a game - the best I've done I feel. I think anyone who really gives it a shot and gets into it and pokes around at all the detail will be totally immersed and you will definitely get your money's worth out of the game. But don't take my word for it - we'll get the demo up ASAP to try out for yourself and we should have reviews coming in the not too distant future as well.

astrosfan64 · 12-19-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

The demo is going to be limited to a partial season but will not expire. We had some issues with the 3 day full trial that we didn't expect and/or like so we're just going back to the old method of creating a separate demo that you can upgrade from by downloading another update.

The price is $39.95 now (and that's one reason we did the month and a half long pre-order with 15% off so it would work out to be even cheaper than it used to be at release) and really the reason it is priced at that point is because I think the game is worth it. My titles typically have new versions every two years and I continue to update them over that time as well. For instance right before the start of the NBA season I did a pro update with new rosters and a couple new items - the game was released last season so I tried to make it fresh again for the new NBA season. On top of that it's a hell of a game - the best I've done I feel. I think anyone who really gives it a shot and gets into it and pokes around at all the detail will be totally immersed and you will definitely get your money's worth out of the game. But don't take my word for it - we'll get the demo up ASAP to try out for yourself and we should have reviews coming in the not too distant future as well.

fair enough

cubboyroy1826 · 12-19-2007, 09:51 PM

Gary where can i find the Pro/College bundle option?

Tim Tellean · 12-19-2007, 09:55 PM

When you go into the webstore and order it will be the second screen that will give you the bundle buy or not option.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-19-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Here is the info about the all in one NCAA installer:
http://www.wolverinestudios.com/foru...ead.php?t=3614

Although I'm not in the market for the game at the moment, I just wanted to say that I think it's beyond cool that you do this installer.

MizzouRah · 12-19-2007, 09:59 PM

Will pick this one up sometime in the near future, congratulations Gary!!

Nice work as usual Icy!

Gary Gorski · 12-19-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I just wanted to say that I think it's beyond cool that you do this installer.

I just want to second this - I know some people like playing in a totally fictious universe but lots of people want the real schools and courts and logos and all that and being able to get all of this by downloading one thing has to have a positive impact on the sales of the game and I can't express enough how much I appreciate that. These games are nothing without the support of the community - I only hope that one day I have the following that guys like Markus and Jim have and things like Icy's installer definitely play a role in getting there because when one or two people get involved from the community it tends to make others want to get involved as well.

Galaril · 12-19-2007, 11:38 PM

I have become atotal homer on this game thru the beta process and can't say enough of how fun it is. I took an Air Force team all the way to the finals riding a wave of upsets thanks to some really great three point shooting. It really reminded me of the George Mason team a few years ago or the Jim V Nc ST. that upset the Houston Cougars back in 84 in real life. This game has really got animmersive feel and I have found myself saying up way to late. On egreat thing I have got where I can go thru a pretty complete and throrough recruiting preseason with camps and practice and even sim about a dozen games all afew afew hours. So it is much quicker than it use to be to go through recruiting now.

Icy · 12-20-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

I just want to second this - I know some people like playing in a totally fictious universe but lots of people want the real schools and courts and logos and all that and being able to get all of this by downloading one thing has to have a positive impact on the sales of the game and I can't express enough how much I appreciate that. These games are nothing without the support of the community - I only hope that one day I have the following that guys like Markus and Jim have and things like Icy's installer definitely play a role in getting there because when one or two people get involved from the community it tends to make others want to get involved as well.

Thanks Gary, I really appreciate your comments.

cubboyroy1826 · 12-20-2007, 08:02 AM

Gary or someone else is there some special price in buying the College game and the Pro game together? Gary had mentioned a bundle and i wasn't sure if that meant that if you buy both then you get a special price.

Gary Gorski · 12-20-2007, 09:04 AM

Yeah if you go to the webstore and pick one to buy you are then prompted with an option to buy the 2nd one for the bundled price

cubboyroy1826 · 12-20-2007, 09:54 AM

Ah perfect. Thanks Gary. You might want to put that somewhere easier to find on the site. It might prompt those people who have been looking at the pro game to move forward if they know that there is a bundled package.

Mota · 12-20-2007, 07:16 PM

This one was a no brainer for me... I have bought pretty much everything that Gary puts out, since it is all very high quality stuff.

I did a bonehead thing with regards to Vista ... played the game for the past two days, saving it a couple of times. I think I had played about 3 hours, got through the early recruiting and maybe 5-10 games into the season. Then I reboot my computer and go to reload, and nothing. My saves never took place. I checked and I wasn't running the game as an administrator, therefore it wasn't allowing me to save into the Program Files directory. So I had to start my league over again. No problems after making this change. A lot of the latest text games have been putting the save directories in the My Documents folders to prevent this from being a problem, but it is an easy fix to avoid it either way.

I also find that the first bit of the league is a bit of a drag, as there's several rounds of recruiting before any of the games start. I personally would like to get to the action and get to know my players a bit before getting into the hardcore recruiting, but again, that's maybe an hour of the game experience before everything gets rolling so it's not a big deal.

Overall, I love the game so far from my beta experience. I like that I saw my SF with 6 rebounds, 4 offensive rebounds within the first 10 minutes of the game, and looking at the court, he is matched up against a 5'5" player so the guy just can't compete in the air. Being able to SEE this is amazing. Text sims always have a lot of strategy in them, but sometimes it is too abstract. When you can actually see mismatches and can formulate your strategies accordingly, that makes a recipe for a great game.

Brian Swartz · 12-20-2007, 10:32 PM

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I also find that the first bit of the league is a bit of a drag, as there's several rounds of recruiting before any of the games start. I personally would like to get to the action and get to know my players a bit before getting into the hardcore recruiting, but again, that's maybe an hour of the game experience before everything gets rolling so it's not a big deal.

One alternative here would be to turn it over to the AI(recruiting that is), and start when practice does, if you can stomach that.

Thanks for your kind comments about the game.

MizzouRah · 12-22-2007, 10:35 AM

C'mon FOFC, more impressions!!!

jbergey22 · 12-22-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

C'mon FOFC, more impressions!!!

Seems like a huge upgrade from TCB. I havent played as much as Id like because I am waiting on the first patch to fix things like too many tall players and other things that I wont want in my "serious" career. I can tell you that this game came out less buggy than the pro basketball game still is.

miami_fan · 12-22-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

C'mon FOFC, more impressions!!!

If they are anything like me, they are trying to digest it all. Certainly not a bad thing though. I am just getting started on my coaching career. I really like the new player cards. All the information is right in front of you as opposed to having to make multiple clicks on one card. Recruiting is much more in depth. I like the head coaching call option. I will post more as I go along.

DaddyTorgo · 12-22-2007, 11:27 AM

gonna hafta pick this one up for sure

MizzouRah · 12-22-2007, 11:52 AM

Me too DT and keep those impressions coming!!!

Too busy right now to get into it, but as college football comes to a close, I'm starting to itch for some college basketball.

MrBug708 · 12-22-2007, 01:05 PM

*sigh* I go to play my first game when it says that I have an invalid roster setting and my sub matrix is missing a player. But yet every player is there. I have it set so the staff fixes everything but I can't sim a game.

nvm - Figured it out.

MrBug708 · 12-22-2007, 01:14 PM

Meh. Just hit a run time error when I went to visit the conference preview. And no saving either.

DaddyTorgo · 12-22-2007, 01:14 PM

i'm just waiting for the demo to give that a quick spin before I pull the trigger on purchasing.

MrBug708 · 12-22-2007, 01:19 PM

Meh. And now I go to do a new game and it crashes on the create the coach part

11-07-2007, 02:30 PM	#52
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	I have created a real NCAA mod already with real team and conference names, two styles of team logos and conference logos. I'll keep updating it with my own and other mod makers tuff. http://www.wolverinestudios.com/foru...ead.php?t=3614 __________________

12-14-2007, 11:11 AM	#54
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	We're happy to announce that we're about ready to wrap up our open beta testing period and officially release version 1.0 - this is scheduled for Tuesday, December 18th. In the meantime if you are on the fence here's a couple of videos to keep you entertained and looking forward to our game. Also I've left the pre-order price in the webstore. Once we put up v1.0 it will change back and I was going to actually cut off the pre-orders now but there's been many people here who have shown their support for my work and games over the years so until 1.0 is actually live and on the site I'll leave it in the store with the 15% discount for you guys Coach Lineage http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down.../llineage.html Track the entire coaching “family tree” of every coach in the history of your league. See which coaches have been the most successful in teaching their assistants what it takes to make it on their own. Player Recruiting http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down...ing%20vid.html Our already deep recruiting system just got better! Check out the new pitch and focus areas, the ability to call up recruits and converse with them and gather the info you need to determine if he’s the right fit for your school. Check out the massive amount of detail on each recruit – even down to info on his parents who could play a role in his decision making. Almanac http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down...c/almanac.html Check out the detail of the history stored for your league. Go back and look up past award winners, pre and post season tournament winners, team, coach and player records and historical standings for each and every season you’ve played! In Game Experience http://www.wolverinestudios.com/down...me/ingame.html We’ve redesigned our gameplay screen to provide you with much more on court 2D action and our new player icons make it even easier to determine on court matchups and visualize the game. Take a look at the wide array of coaching options you have at your fingertips including the ability to choose different motivation tactics to try and fire up a listless team or heap praise on your boys for a job well done. __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com Last edited by Gary Gorski : 12-14-2007 at 11:12 AM.

12-15-2007, 05:39 AM	#56
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Totally agree with Galaril, i'm really impressed both with the game quallity and with Gary's openness regarding new features and suggestions. I think this open beta idea has worked really well, the game is really polished and shouldn't be any important bug in the final release. I love how he has implemented players personalities, still not at the level of FM but getting pretty close, that is something really new for a college sim and that makes you really feel like a college coach. This is going to be one of the games of the year imho as FBCB was in the past. __________________

12-18-2007, 07:51 PM	#59
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Bump, the game will be released today evening EST time. I have released already an All-in-One NCAA installer with logos, courts, real teams nicknames, conferences etc etc. __________________ Last edited by Icy : 12-18-2007 at 07:53 PM.

12-18-2007, 08:17 PM	#60
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Icy, you da man! __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

12-14-2007, 08:53 PM	#55
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	I must say that having pre-ordered and been a fairly active and critical beta tester this is a good game. I f anyone is a basketball fan they definitely should pick it up. I really can't say enough about how open to suggestions gary has been during the beat process and it is obvious he has tried to accomodate even suggestions from individuals alone if they were worthy suggestions that is. The game is very solid and the "too much clicking or having to go four screens down and back to do one thing has been greatly eliminated and the UI is much more streamlined. Also, I would say that this is the only sports text sim other than SI's Football Manager and the now defunct hockey game they had that really get's immersive and caring about things. That is at least compared to the greater body of sports text sims.

12-15-2007, 07:16 AM	#57
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	So umm, i'm kinda curious.. is there a bubble watch and a tourney selection show?

12-18-2007, 08:55 PM	#62
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Icy rocks. And I need to try the demo for this game.

12-18-2007, 10:02 PM	#63
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	Going to try and have the demo out this weekend for anyone interested __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

12-18-2007, 10:55 PM	#64
King of New York High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edge of the Great Dismal Swamp	Congrats, Gary. Seeing as how I might be the biggest TCB Homer on this board, I went ahead and pre-ordered a few days ago. I probably won't get a chance to play until after Xmas, but I am looking forward to taking it for a spin. Thanks, Icy, for the mod--seriously, you should get a medal or something. __________________ Input A No Input

12-18-2007, 11:02 PM	#65
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	Does an admin want to change this to the "Alright Boyz, here we go! DDSCB First Impressions Thread"? I would but I don't believe I can edit my own thread titles. As it is, don't wait for the demo. I barely follow any basketball and really only watch the college game during March Madness, but have played many college hoops sims and must say that this is one of the best sports sim games period. Last edited by Carman Bulldog : 12-18-2007 at 11:03 PM.

12-19-2007, 12:13 AM	#66
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Me has been having fun since two weeks ago when I pre ordered and helped out(not really) with the Beta Testing.

12-19-2007, 01:22 AM	#67
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	Congrats on the release Gary! __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

12-19-2007, 06:47 AM	#68
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Congrats Gary. Been looking for this for a while. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-19-2007, 06:58 AM	#69
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	Also for anyone who didn't read my thread at Wolverine about the game I've decided I really like the open beta approach and am taking the same kind of approach to the game post-release. Rather than fixing/adding things, internally testing and then releasing large updates I'm just going to put out mini-updates as I complete them as beta updates. So shortly there will be a 1.01, 1.02 etc until those new fixes or additions have been tested and we officially call it 1.1 Additional features from our suggestions forums during beta testing have been compiled and are in the plans to be added in as we go to make the game even deeper than it is now as well. __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

12-19-2007, 07:04 AM	#70
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	For the FBCB fans out there, is this the game to take it's place? I liked TCB, but always found myself going back to FBCB. It was just a better game for me. Edit: Gary, has the special ended, both the discount on this game and the package with this and the pro game? Also, is there a discount for owners of TPB to move up to DDS: Pro? Last edited by rjolley : 12-19-2007 at 07:06 AM.

12-19-2007, 09:57 AM	#73
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Ok, thanks Gary. I'm definitely going to pick this up, and the pro game as well.

12-19-2007, 10:46 AM	#75
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	btw if anyone is looking for a run down on some new things to the game go here http://www.wolverinestudios.com/ we've got a special DDS:CB intro page there with all kinds of screens and the videos to check out __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

12-19-2007, 10:51 AM	#76
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	If I can figure out how to get Paypal to pay without a CC assigned (have some money in the account), I'll buy this today. If I could've figured it out last week, I would've bought it then.

12-19-2007, 01:09 PM	#77
astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	I'm looking forward to trying the demo. Is it a demo where i can play 1 season, or the type that is only active for 3 real life days? I noticed that the price is up to $40.00 for this game. That makes it the highest priced text based simmulation in the business. WWSM, OOTP 8, WMMA, FOF 2k7 and even your pro game is cheaper. Any reason this one costs more?

12-19-2007, 01:28 PM	#78
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	The demo is going to be limited to a partial season but will not expire. We had some issues with the 3 day full trial that we didn't expect and/or like so we're just going back to the old method of creating a separate demo that you can upgrade from by downloading another update. The price is $39.95 now (and that's one reason we did the month and a half long pre-order with 15% off so it would work out to be even cheaper than it used to be at release) and really the reason it is priced at that point is because I think the game is worth it. My titles typically have new versions every two years and I continue to update them over that time as well. For instance right before the start of the NBA season I did a pro update with new rosters and a couple new items - the game was released last season so I tried to make it fresh again for the new NBA season. On top of that it's a hell of a game - the best I've done I feel. I think anyone who really gives it a shot and gets into it and pokes around at all the detail will be totally immersed and you will definitely get your money's worth out of the game. But don't take my word for it - we'll get the demo up ASAP to try out for yourself and we should have reviews coming in the not too distant future as well. __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

12-19-2007, 09:51 PM	#80
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Gary where can i find the Pro/College bundle option?

12-19-2007, 09:55 PM	#81
Tim Tellean High School JV Join Date: Dec 2005	When you go into the webstore and order it will be the second screen that will give you the bundle buy or not option.

12-19-2007, 09:59 PM	#83
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Will pick this one up sometime in the near future, congratulations Gary!! Nice work as usual Icy!

12-19-2007, 11:38 PM	#85
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	I have become atotal homer on this game thru the beta process and can't say enough of how fun it is. I took an Air Force team all the way to the finals riding a wave of upsets thanks to some really great three point shooting. It really reminded me of the George Mason team a few years ago or the Jim V Nc ST. that upset the Houston Cougars back in 84 in real life. This game has really got animmersive feel and I have found myself saying up way to late. On egreat thing I have got where I can go thru a pretty complete and throrough recruiting preseason with camps and practice and even sim about a dozen games all afew afew hours. So it is much quicker than it use to be to go through recruiting now. Last edited by Galaril : 12-19-2007 at 11:39 PM.

12-20-2007, 08:02 AM	#87
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Gary or someone else is there some special price in buying the College game and the Pro game together? Gary had mentioned a bundle and i wasn't sure if that meant that if you buy both then you get a special price.

12-20-2007, 09:04 AM	#88
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	Yeah if you go to the webstore and pick one to buy you are then prompted with an option to buy the 2nd one for the bundled price __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

12-20-2007, 09:54 AM	#89
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Ah perfect. Thanks Gary. You might want to put that somewhere easier to find on the site. It might prompt those people who have been looking at the pro game to move forward if they know that there is a bundled package.

12-20-2007, 07:16 PM	#90
Mota College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001	This one was a no brainer for me... I have bought pretty much everything that Gary puts out, since it is all very high quality stuff. I did a bonehead thing with regards to Vista ... played the game for the past two days, saving it a couple of times. I think I had played about 3 hours, got through the early recruiting and maybe 5-10 games into the season. Then I reboot my computer and go to reload, and nothing. My saves never took place. I checked and I wasn't running the game as an administrator, therefore it wasn't allowing me to save into the Program Files directory. So I had to start my league over again. No problems after making this change. A lot of the latest text games have been putting the save directories in the My Documents folders to prevent this from being a problem, but it is an easy fix to avoid it either way. I also find that the first bit of the league is a bit of a drag, as there's several rounds of recruiting before any of the games start. I personally would like to get to the action and get to know my players a bit before getting into the hardcore recruiting, but again, that's maybe an hour of the game experience before everything gets rolling so it's not a big deal. Overall, I love the game so far from my beta experience. I like that I saw my SF with 6 rebounds, 4 offensive rebounds within the first 10 minutes of the game, and looking at the court, he is matched up against a 5'5" player so the guy just can't compete in the air. Being able to SEE this is amazing. Text sims always have a lot of strategy in them, but sometimes it is too abstract. When you can actually see mismatches and can formulate your strategies accordingly, that makes a recipe for a great game.

12-22-2007, 10:35 AM	#92
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	C'mon FOFC, more impressions!!!

12-22-2007, 11:27 AM	#95
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	gonna hafta pick this one up for sure

12-22-2007, 11:52 AM	#96
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Me too DT and keep those impressions coming!!! Too busy right now to get into it, but as college football comes to a close, I'm starting to itch for some college basketball.

12-22-2007, 01:05 PM	#97
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	sigh I go to play my first game when it says that I have an invalid roster setting and my sub matrix is missing a player. But yet every player is there. I have it set so the staff fixes everything but I can't sim a game. nvm - Figured it out. Last edited by MrBug708 : 12-22-2007 at 01:10 PM.

12-22-2007, 01:14 PM	#98
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Meh. Just hit a run time error when I went to visit the conference preview. And no saving either.

12-22-2007, 01:19 PM	#100
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Meh. And now I go to do a new game and it crashes on the create the coach part