OOTP Preview Thread (*17-YEAR-LEAGUE UPLOADED 4/16/2K4*)

[CraigSca]

Well, to each his own, I suppose. In past versions, I could never get past the guy who averages 11 Ks per 9 innings who somehow also gave up over a hit per inning. Realistic statistics were always high on my list. I don't mean to discount your priorities, however. If you feel there are issues (and I unfortunately can't track them all), I'd be happy to air them with Markus.

BTW, Ksyrup - I run into the same issue with rookie records that you do. Basically I just clear rookie records after the first year. However, realistically, this should be done by the game itself. I'll bring this up.

-Craig

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

No, but you can include money now.

I like that, it's getting there.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Well, to each his own, I suppose. In past versions, I could never get past the guy who averages 11 Ks per 9 innings who somehow also gave up over a hit per inning. Realistic statistics were always high on my list. I don't mean to discount your priorities, however. If you feel there are issues (and I unfortunately can't track them all), I'd be happy to air them with Markus.

BTW, Ksyrup - I run into the same issue with rookie records that you do. Basically I just clear rookie records after the first year. However, realistically, this should be done by the game itself. I'll bring this up.

-Craig

I also hate the rookie record issue, the upgrade will be worth that alone if it could be implemented

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Well, to each his own, I suppose. In past versions, I could never get past the guy who averages 11 Ks per 9 innings who somehow also gave up over a hit per inning. Realistic statistics were always high on my list. I don't mean to discount your priorities, however. If you feel there are issues (and I unfortunately can't track them all), I'd be happy to air them with Markus.

BTW, Ksyrup - I run into the same issue with rookie records that you do. Basically I just clear rookie records after the first year. However, realistically, this should be done by the game itself. I'll bring this up.

-Craig

I guess I didn't put enough grinning smilies in my post. Craig, it's a long running issue here with me being the uber-GM/anti-stats antagonists. I love bringing this up because it's a solitary voice from the far side.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

BTW, Ksyrup - I run into the same issue with rookie records that you do. Basically I just clear rookie records after the first year. However, realistically, this should be done by the game itself. I'll bring this up.

-Craig

That would be great. BTW, do you have the same problem I have, every now and then, that some records don't get filled after you clear them? I haven't seen a rhyme or reason to it, but it most often occurs with batting average. That makes it even worse - it's one thing to have to clear them out every time I start a new league, but it's another to have to manually search each year for rookies who might have gotten the best BA or most HRs, etc.

[CraigSca]

Dang it, and I'm usually the one with the tongue firmly implanted in the cheek.

Oh well....

But seriously, if you have issues, I have no problem airing them. There are no guarantees that they will be rectified, but a lot of times things are an easy fix. I'd have to find out about the "trade and release soon thereafter issue", but I can think of a way to fix it right now...

-Craig

[CraigSca]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

That would be great. BTW, do you have the same problem I have, every now and then, that some records don't get filled after you clear them? I haven't seen a rhyme or reason to it, but it most often occurs with batting average. That makes it even worse - it's one thing to have to clear them out every time I start a new league, but it's another to have to manually search each year for rookies who might have gotten the best BA or most HRs, etc.

You know what? I just noticed that with one of my quick-sims the other day. I just thought it must have been me, and since that time I haven't taken the time to clear rookie records. I'll bring this one up as well.

-Craig

[Huckleberry]

The biggest and most welcomed change from previous versions is that pitchers have ONE endurance rating, rather than one as a starter and one as a closer. Makes very good sense to me.

I find that to be a horrible change.

[Buccaneer]

I really hope Markus takes the time to listen and see if thse suggestions/fixes are doable. If the game doesn't come out till next month, I am perfectly happy with that (too busy playing FBCB anyways). Please don't let the whining, cry-babies and self-ego push him into releasing the game any sooner.

[Buccaneer]

My god, I just noticed that there are 13 members and 25 guests viewing this thread. I guess I have to be careful what I say then.

[KWhit]

Be good, Bucc.

[GoldenEagle]

Bucc - I do not think draft picks can be traded in MLB. So, the question should be is the game being modeled after MLB or is it just a baseball sim?

Did anyone else notice the alarming numbers of home runs hit? It seems every team has 3 or more 30+ home run hitters.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Don't worry those who are in the light, Bucc has exhausted himself staying up way past his bedtime. He will be too exhausted to continue this futile campaign tomorrow.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Bucc - I do not think draft picks can be traded in MLB. So, the question should be is the game being modeled after MLB or is it just a baseball sim?

Did anyone else notice the alarming numbers of home runs hit? It seems every team has 3 or more 30+ home run hitters.

The phillies didn't

Looking at the league leaders for homers, the distribution seemed like there were a few too many home run hitters, but it is just one season's stats. I'll really be interested in seeing the results of the 50 year sim tomorrow.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I really hope Markus takes the time to listen and see if thse suggestions/fixes are doable. If the game doesn't come out till next month, I am perfectly happy with that (too busy playing FBCB anyways). Please don't let the whining, cry-babies and self-ego push him into releasing the game any sooner.

*Stabs Buccaneer*

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Not to threadjack or anything, but based on my initial foray into this game tonight, I would strongly consider giving CM 3/4 a try

I might wait for 2005, especially since EHM:FE is coming out sometime in the future. Although I'm interested in what you and Senator have to say about the game.


Todd

[kq76]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Did anyone else notice the alarming numbers of home runs hit? It seems every team has 3 or more 30+ home run hitters.

You can customize this by the league totals and the player creation modifiers:

http://www.mirror1.ootpdevelopments....ns/screen4.jpg

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

You can send players to the minors without waivers if they haven't exhausted their option years. Are you seeing players demoted that are out of option years?

No, I don't see any players being demoted who are out of options. But what I am seeing in Ben's file are a lot of players who I believe should be out of options -- in MLB, I don't believe players with more than 5 or 6 years experience have option years, but I may be mistaken. I know they can refuse assignment.

However, I'm wondering if this isn't a by-product of starting with a fictional universe. That may explain why players with 8-10 years experience have option years. It may also explain why there is such massive player movement in Ben's first year.

Question regarding options -- in OOTP, I'm assuming you have three option years. Are those calculated as true option years or is an option exercised each time a player is demoted/promoted? I'm seeing some players with one option year remaining who were demoted to the minors twice during the season -- just wondiering if that is a coincidence or not.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by kq76

You can customize this by the league totals and the player creation modifiers:

http://www.mirror1.ootpdevelopments....ns/screen4.jpg

I am too lazy to do that.

[CraigSca]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Question regarding options -- in OOTP, I'm assuming you have three option years. Are those calculated as true option years or is an option exercised each time a player is demoted/promoted? I'm seeing some players with one option year remaining who were demoted to the minors twice during the season -- just wondiering if that is a coincidence or not.

Just as in MLB, you can be demoted/promoted any number of times during a single "option" year.

[McSweeny]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Just as in MLB, you can be demoted/promoted any number of times during a single "option" year.

just ask Lou Merloni

[k0ruptr]

LMAO sweet lou

[dawgfan]

A few questions:

1. What the hell is 'gap power' supposed to represent? Power is power; rather than being a seperate category, gap power should just be part of a continuum of possibilities on the power scale. Doubles and triples should be influenced by a combination of power and speed/baserunning.

2. I'm curious what endurance for a pitcher is really supposed to represent; while there is certainly a difference in how many pitches a pitcher can throw and remain effective, this is rarely the reason for using some guys as starters and others relievers; I've played some baseball games where this rating was so severe that relievers with very poor ratings here would tire after facing 3-4 hitters, which is ridiculous. The thing that generally seperates relievers from starters is the variety and quality of the pitcher's repertoire.

One thing I'd like to see is some correlation between the type of stuff a pitcher uses and whether he becomes more effective as a reliever than as a starter; for example, a pitcher with a good fastball may become more effective as a reliever since they're able to really cut loose with that pitch rather than pacing themselves. So maybe a guy with a mediocre endurance rating but a great fastball would be a mediocre starter, but a potentially very good reliever.

3. If I decide I'd rather auto-sim a few weeks or even months at a time, will the game automatically make substitutions in my lineups? Are there settings that govern this, i.e. setting substitution frequency and preferences for how you'd want your batting order modified when substitutions happen? Or does the game require you to manually change your lineups and batting orders? Is there a fatigue rating for position players that affects player performance?

[dawgfan]

Dola -

I just randomly clicked on a player card link from Ben's HTML output, and I noticed something a little funny; the player (Marcos Aybar) is listed as 32 years old. It says his Years of MLB service = 14, which would mean he made the majors at 18, and says his Years of pro service = 17, which means he was signed at 15. He's Dominican, but even foreign players I believe have to be 16 or 17 before they're allowed to sign professional contracts, and outside of Robin Yount I can't think of any player in modern times that has been in the majors since they were 18.

This is admittedly serious nit-picking, and I have no idea if this is an extreme example or the norm, but something to keep an eye on...

Another thing I just noticed - I'm looking at the Top Prospects screen, and a couple more things jumped out at me. I don't know how seriously we're supposed to take minor-league performance into account when evaluating prospects, but the homerun numbers for guys in A and AA were very high. Power is something that generally takes some time to develop, and most guys that hit with power in the majors started off in the minors hitting lots of doubles and not so many homeruns. Go flip through a Baseball Register book sometime and take a look at the minor league stats for most power hitters; it's rare to see a guy with 20 or more homeruns in a season at the lower levels.

The other thing was the high number of IP for guys in the A level - again, at that level most clubs are fairly protective of their pitchers' arms and you don't see many guys racking up 160+ IP at a young age. Also, not one pitcher in the prospects list has a K:IP ratio higher than 0.92:0; strikeout rate is one of the top predictors of MLB success for a pitcher, and again if you scan through minor league stats for real players, many good successful power pitchers had 1:0 or better K:IP ratios in the minors, especially in A ball; some with very high ratios like 1.3:0. I wouldn't expect most of the pitchers in the prospect list to have 1:0 or higher K:IP ratios, but I would expect some.

At the MLB level, at first glance it looks like the IP numbers might be a touch too high, which would indicate to me that there aren't enough minor and/or major injuries for pitchers - guys missing 3-4 turns in the rotation over a year due to various minor ailments.

On a somewhat related note, I'd be curious what the casualty rate is of pitching prospects in OOTP - how many highly touted pitching prospects succumb to injuries and either never make the bigs, or lose some/much of their effectiveness? How about injuries in general - do they happen frequently enough, and how do they effect a player's ability both short-term and long-term? How variable are players' development curves and declines? Are there both Barry Bonds/Nolan Ryan types (i.e. freaks of nature that retain their effectiveness well into their late-30's/early-40's), Dale Murphy/Ron Guidry types (superstars that quickly decline in their early-30's), Alex Rodriguez/Dwight Gooden types (guys who burst onto the scene highly developed) and Raul Ibanez/Jamie Moyer types (late bloomers)?

This post will probably tweak Bucc's sensibilities, but one of the things I'd most look forward to in a baseball sim are realistic numbers at both the major league and minor league levels. Without this, the game would feel less believable.

Lots of questions, but hopefully Ben's long-term simming will give us enough data to find answers to some or all of these issues...

[Marmel]

Maybe its just me but OOTP has pretty much run its course with me. If it was not for being in an online league, I would have abondoned this a long time ago. To be heading into the 6th version with not all that much significant change from version 3.....well, been there, done that.

[Neuqua]

Yeah.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by Neuqua

Yeah.

Stop kissing my ass, you homo.

[Ben E Lou]

For those that care about sim speed, on my P4, 2.4GHz, 512MB laptop, the sim last night ran 13 seasons in a little over 6 hours, or a little under 30 minutes per season. I am going to do some other stuff this morning for a while so the sim can get up to around 2020. By then, most of the original fictional players will be gone, and the league will be mature enough to take a look at things like how many players are eligible for free agency, how teams are doing financially, how players have developed, matured, retired, etc.

I'm going now to the web stuff to see how well they've done getting rid of the 10.4K per nine inning guys who give up 1.1 hits per nine innings.

[Ben E Lou]

A couple of comments about tweakable things I noticed in the stats right off the bat (especially since I see that Markus is reading right now. )

1. WHIP needs to be somewhere on the player HTML report, besides just when a guy is in the top 10.
2. Using "start highest rested starter", I'm getting a hair too many starts from the top pitchers in the modern era. A few guys had 38/39 starts, which very rarely happens any more.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

one of the things I'd most look forward to in a baseball sim are realistic numbers at both the major league and minor league levels. Without this, the game would feel less believable.

Amen.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by kq76

You can customize this by the league totals and the player creation modifiers:

http://www.mirror1.ootpdevelopments....ns/screen4.jpg

ACK! NO! NO! NO! NO! I intentionally used default settings, because default settings need to be realistic. We don't buy games to tweak settings. We buy games to play the games. I am a firm, firm believer that a big part of the development team's is to get us a solid stats engine when playing "default." If we want to create a softball league, deadball era, or slightly raise or lower something from the defaults, that's what the stats tweaks should be for.

All of that being said, there's some great news. Markus just informed me that he has found and fixed a bug that caused inflated offensive numbers. I'll be continuing the preview with a new build later today. With that news, I'm stopping the long-term sim now, letting it advance to the end of 2018, and I'll take a look at the offseason stuff, rather than focusing on stats produced in the currently-uploaded league which are now invalid. I'm removing that HTML report from the server now.

[Ben E Lou]

Ok, so I HAD to take a look at a little player development before advancing to free agency! Here are some stats from the first card I looked at, the all-time K leader in my league as of 2018:

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2006 8 6 4 0 0 3.74 45.2 42 19 19 24 41 0 0 BAL 2007 27 24 3 15 0 6.82 124.0 137 107 94 89 113 0 0 BAL 2008 30 29 10 6 0 3.77 169.1 130 85 71 76 165 0 0 BAL 2009 36 36 13 10 0 4.51 201.1 167 105 101 81 230 0 0 BAL 2010 35 35 14 8 0 3.07 208.1 173 84 71 64 277 0 0 BAL 2011 34 34 14 9 0 3.00 227.2 164 83 76 68 263 2 1 BAL 2012 36 36 15 8 0 2.48 232.1 142 70 64 74 250 2 1 BAL 2013 36 36 15 7 0 2.43 233.2 171 71 63 71 269 2 1 BAL,L1 2014 34 34 15 7 0 3.70 209.0 149 95 86 70 228 0 0 BAL 2015 27 27 8 7 0 3.96 168.0 127 79 74 67 177 1 0 BAL 2016 35 35 16 14 0 3.87 227.2 180 108 98 77 226 0 0 BAL,L1 2017 37 37 14 4 0 3.99 228.0 173 104 101 81 260 0 0 BAL 2018 37 37 16 13 0 3.80 241.2 207 109 102 98 248 0 0 BAL Total 412 406 157 108 0 3.65 2516.2 1962 1119 1020 940 2747 7 3

Career Minor League Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 2006, AA 18 18 9 5 0 2.49 126.1 94 38 35 36 134 0 0 2006, AAA 4 3 1 0 0 3.66 19.2 18 8 8 7 23 0 0 2007, AAA 2 2 1 0 0 1.72 15.2 9 3 3 3 22 0 0 2008, AAA 4 4 3 0 0 1.74 31.0 19 6 6 3 41 1 1

[Ragone]

3 shutouts/7 complete games in his career? thats kinda.. odd for someone with that kinda strike out ability to not have more shutouts

[Ben E Lou]

Here's a 10th-round draft choice pitcher who made it big....

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2006 22 22 7 8 0 5.60 119.0 122 78 74 66 83 1 0 TB 2007 23 6 2 8 1 6.51 55.1 53 43 40 27 58 0 0 TB 2008 4 1 1 1 0 2.92 12.1 6 4 4 5 17 0 0 TB 2009 37 37 15 10 0 3.13 244.2 179 92 85 112 249 3 1 TB 2010 35 35 15 14 0 3.14 258.0 195 102 90 92 259 8 4 TB 2011 36 36 18 12 0 3.00 273.0 209 98 91 93 251 7 3 TB,L1 2012 38 38 16 12 0 3.15 257.0 215 104 90 102 241 3 3 TB,L1 2013 37 37 17 9 0 3.56 260.2 230 116 103 93 248 3 1 TB,L1 2014 37 37 16 15 0 3.32 252.0 216 103 93 86 247 2 2 MON 2015 38 38 14 14 0 3.54 246.1 221 103 97 60 253 4 1 MON,L2 2016 36 36 19 7 0 3.82 230.2 217 111 98 72 224 2 1 MON,L2 2017 38 38 15 11 0 3.93 226.2 216 113 99 84 234 1 0 MON 2018 36 36 13 10 0 4.78 216.1 208 122 115 70 237 1 0 MON Total 417 397 168 131 1 3.66 2652.0 2287 1189 1079 962 2601 35 16

Career Minor League Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 2004, A 22 22 9 8 0 3.57 158.2 131 64 63 60 159 1 0 2004, AA 4 4 3 0 0 0.28 32.1 17 1 1 9 36 0 0 2005, AA 11 11 3 5 0 2.61 79.1 54 25 23 27 82 0 0 2005, AAA 15 13 2 10 0 6.16 80.1 83 59 55 36 79 1 0 2006, AAA 6 6 2 2 0 3.46 41.2 37 16 16 21 46 0 0 2007, AAA 5 5 0 3 0 4.75 30.1 25 19 16 17 37 0 0 2008, AAA 21 21 11 3 0 2.28 157.2 104 44 40 54 191 3 1

[Ben E Lou]

4th-round pick with a pretty solid career:

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2007 35 35 18 11 0 3.65 239.1 238 109 97 78 131 5 2 NY 2008 36 36 16 13 0 4.69 241.2 244 136 126 92 163 6 2 NY 2009 37 37 20 10 0 4.16 249.0 261 122 115 76 149 5 1 NY,L1 2010 37 37 20 10 0 3.52 261.0 257 112 102 80 176 6 1 NY,L1 2011 38 38 19 10 0 3.55 264.0 270 115 104 75 197 4 1 NY,L1 2012 28 28 12 12 0 3.70 194.2 214 91 80 52 118 5 1 NY 2013 37 37 22 8 0 2.86 273.2 269 100 87 64 165 8 2 NY,L1 2014 38 37 11 10 0 4.31 229.2 250 114 110 62 137 2 1 PHI 2015 34 34 12 13 0 5.01 206.2 241 129 115 67 103 0 0 PHI 2016 32 32 14 9 0 3.49 214.0 219 87 83 42 134 3 2 PHI 2017 33 33 10 12 0 3.72 203.0 208 100 84 73 95 0 0 PHI 2018 11 11 6 4 0 4.25 65.2 71 35 31 21 22 0 0 PHI Total 396 395 180 122 0 3.86 2642.1 2742 1250 1134 782 1590 44 13

Career Minor League Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 2005, AA 25 25 9 11 0 3.57 176.2 173 80 70 47 150 4 2 2006, AA 23 23 11 8 0 2.44 188.0 142 56 51 31 145 10 4 2006, AAA 5 2 1 1 0 6.60 15.0 19 12 11 7 11 0 0 2007, AAA 1 1 1 0 0 1.00 9.0 3 1 1 1 10 1 0

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Ragone

3 shutouts/7 complete games in his career? thats kinda.. odd for someone with that kinda strike out ability to not have more shutouts

Keep in mind that this is with the build that has offensive stats inflated. They're coming down in the next build.

[Ragone]

Oh.. so the hitters are set to Bonds?

[Ben E Lou]

A player card that many of you will enjoy seeing...

#26 Keith Lorusso, Starting Pitcher, 42 yrs, Montreal Sunday, 10/10/2018

[img]file:///C:/PROGRA~1/OUTOFT~1/OOTP6~1/graphics/defaultphoto.bmp[/img] Name : Nickname : Birthday : Age : Born in : Height : Weight : Position : Bats : Throws : Keith Lorusso 2/27/1976 42 USA 6"4 240 Starting Pitcher R R Desire for Winner : Loyalty : Team Leader Skills : Consistency : Clutch Performance : Injury Rating : Overall Rating : Minimal Average None at all Average Normal Prone 2.5 Stars

Contract & Roster Status

Contract : Salary : Signed Through : Extention : Years of MLB Service : MLB Service Days this Year : Years on 40-Man Roster : Years of Pro Service : Rule 5 Draft Eligibility : Arbitration Eligibility : Minor League Option Years : Big League Contract $ 5,280,000 2018 $ 5,280,000 (2018 year(s)) 24 Year(s), 166 Days (4294 total Days) 185 Day(s) 27 Year(s), 147 Days (4791 total Days) 27 Year(s) Protected (on 40 Man Roster) Not eligible 1 Option Year(s) left

Pitching Ratings

Pitching Stuff Movement Control Velocity Overall 25 96 58 88-91 Mph Versus LHB 21 93 55 Versus RHB 29 99 61 Talent 18 92 61

Pitching Ratings Endurance : Groundball Pct. : Holding Runners : 76 70 1 Pitches: Fastball Sinker Slider

Batting Ratings

Batting Contact Gap Power Discipline/Eye Avoid K's Overall 1 38 3 22 19 Versus LHP 1 38 3 22 19 Versus RHP 1 38 3 22 19 Talent 1 38 3 22 19

Running & Bunting Ratings Running Speed : Stealing Ability : Sacrifice Bunt : Bunt for Hit : Hitter Type : 8 10 4 1 Spray Hitter Fielding Ratings P : 77 (Range), .934 (Fielding Pct.) Catcher Arm : 4 Outfield Arm : 11

Game Log, Last 10 Games

Date Opp. Result Start IP H R ER BB K Dec 8/23 NY L 0-3 0.1 0 0 0 2 0 8/27 HOU L 8-9 1.2 1 0 0 2 0 8/30 @PHI W 10-7 1.1 2 0 0 0 1 9/2 @CIN L 3-4 0 1 0 0 0 0 9/4 @CIN W 10-6 1 0 0 0 0 0 9/6 ATL W 7-6 2 2 1 1 3 0 W 9/10 @C( L 5-10 2 4 2 2 0 3 9/16 HOU L 3-12 * 6 5 3 3 2 4 L 9/22 @FLO L 5-12 * 6 6 3 1 1 3 9/28 ATL L 2-7 * 7 8 4 4 1 1 L

Pitching Stats 2018

Overall G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG CG% SHO QS QS% 39 15 9 5 1 3.54 122.0 121 57 48 48 68 1 6.7 1 9 60.0

Overall SVO BS SV% RA GF R/9 H/9 K/9 BB/9 RL RLS RLS% IR IRS IRS% ERC 5 0 100.0 24 11 13.1 8.9 5.0 3.5 13 4 30.8 8 4 50.0 3.96

AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SF SH HP AVG OBP SLG OPS vs. LHB 194 54 4 4 4 22 26 33 25 0 0 5 .278 .385 .402 .787 vs. RHB 272 67 11 1 5 31 31 15 43 0 0 3 .246 .291 .349 .640

G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K Home 18 8 5 2 0 2.69 67.0 54 23 20 24 33 Road 21 7 4 3 1 4.58 55.0 67 34 28 24 35 Postseason 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 This Week 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 Last Week 1 1 0 1 0 5.14 7.0 8 4 4 1 1

Month G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K March/April 8 0 2 0 0 1.93 9.1 6 3 2 1 8 May 5 3 3 0 0 2.10 25.2 22 6 6 5 14 June 5 5 2 2 0 2.87 31.1 30 16 10 19 16 July 5 4 1 1 0 6.14 22.0 25 15 15 8 11 August 9 0 0 0 1 3.72 9.2 12 4 4 8 8 Sept./Oct. 7 3 1 2 0 4.13 24.0 26 13 11 7 11

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2004 37 37 17 15 0 3.83 247.0 231 122 105 69 192 2 1 MON 2005 36 36 9 12 0 4.17 228.2 235 117 106 55 169 4 2 MON 2006 36 36 20 11 0 2.83 241.1 224 94 76 35 152 4 2 MON,L2 2007 39 39 19 12 0 3.11 263.0 218 100 91 58 189 3 2 MON,L2 2008 37 37 14 11 0 2.86 257.2 235 89 82 55 210 1 0 MON,L2 2009 37 37 20 9 0 2.62 261.0 208 84 76 61 209 7 2 MON,L2 2010 39 39 18 9 0 2.58 276.0 227 96 79 49 210 5 2 MON,L2 2011 38 38 18 12 0 2.80 264.0 218 98 82 59 173 4 2 MON 2012 38 37 21 10 0 3.31 264.0 227 104 97 62 224 4 0 MON,L2 2013 37 37 18 10 0 3.10 261.2 253 102 90 61 185 2 0 MON 2014 36 36 10 15 0 4.57 228.1 258 138 116 58 161 2 0 MON 2015 35 35 14 11 0 2.97 239.2 254 96 79 55 163 1 1 MON,L2 2016 31 31 10 12 0 3.90 187.0 207 104 81 67 103 3 2 MON 2017 31 31 11 12 0 4.90 193.0 231 125 105 66 110 1 0 MON 2018 39 15 9 5 1 3.54 122.0 121 57 48 48 68 1 1 MON Total 546 521 228 166 1 3.34 3534.1 3347 1526 1313 858 2518 44 17

Career Minor League Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO

Career Postseason Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 2008 2 2 1 0 0 3.86 16.1 18 8 7 2 14 1 0 2009 2 2 2 0 0 1.59 17.0 15 6 3 3 7 1 0 Total 4 4 3 0 0 2.70 33.1 33 14 10 5 21 2 0

Career Batting Stats

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 2004 37 74 6 2 0 0 2 4 3 22 0 1 .081 .117 .108 .225 MON 2005 36 72 6 4 0 0 1 3 1 27 0 0 .083 .096 .139 .235 MON 2006 36 73 8 1 0 0 2 5 2 22 0 0 .110 .133 .123 .257 MON,L2 2007 39 83 7 3 2 0 2 6 7 32 0 0 .084 .156 .169 .324 MON,L2 2008 37 80 9 2 0 0 2 7 4 22 0 0 .112 .155 .138 .292 MON,L2 2009 37 88 9 2 1 0 3 5 3 33 0 0 .102 .132 .148 .280 MON,L2 2010 39 85 3 1 0 1 7 3 3 26 0 0 .035 .068 .082 .151 MON,L2 2011 38 81 9 2 0 0 2 6 3 27 0 0 .111 .143 .136 .279 MON 2012 38 94 6 2 0 0 0 5 3 36 0 0 .064 .093 .085 .178 MON,L2 2013 37 77 2 1 0 0 2 4 5 25 0 0 .026 .085 .039 .124 MON 2014 36 62 5 3 1 0 2 1 7 20 0 0 .081 .174 .161 .335 MON 2015 35 76 7 4 0 0 7 3 2 24 1 0 .092 .115 .145 .260 MON,L2 2016 31 62 6 2 0 2 7 4 1 28 0 0 .097 .111 .226 .337 MON 2017 31 61 4 1 0 0 3 1 2 13 0 0 .066 .095 .082 .177 MON 2018 39 28 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 8 0 0 .000 .125 .000 .125 MON Total 546 1096 87 30 4 3 42 58 50 365 1 1 .079 .120 .122 .242

Fielding Stats 2018

Position G GS PO A DP TC E PCT INN RANGE PB RSTA RTO RTO% Pitcher 39 15 6 24 3 31 1 .968 122.0 2.29

Player History

Drafted in 4th round, 63rd overall pick, by Montreal in 2004... Had first career hit on 4/7/2004, off Thad Giunta (ATL)... Earned first career win on 4/7/2004... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 10/1/2005, going 3-1, 2.45... Won Platinum Glove at Pitcher in 2005... Won Player of the Week award on 6/28/2006, winning 2 games with a 0.00 ERA... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 7/1/2006, going 6-0, 1.53... Was selected to the 2006 Allstar game... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 8/1/2006, going 4-1, 0.75... Won Outstanding Pitcher in 2006, going 20-11, 2.83 ERA... Was selected to the 2007 Allstar game... Won Outstanding Pitcher in 2007, going 19-12, 3.11 ERA... Was selected to the 2008 Allstar game... Won World Championship with Montreal in 2008... Signed as a free agent by Montreal on 2/9/2009 to a 7-year deal worth $14,518,200 per year... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 6/1/2009, going 6-1, 1.75... Was selected to the 2009 Allstar game... Won World Championship with Montreal in 2009... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 5/1/2010, going 5-1, 1.09... Was selected to the 2010 Allstar game... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 8/1/2010, going 2-0, 1.88... Hit first career homerun on 9/8/2010, off Damian Llanes (HOU)... Won Platinum Glove at Pitcher in 2010... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 8/1/2011, going 4-0, 1.95... Won Outstanding Pitcher in 2011, going 18-12, 2.80 ERA... Was selected to the 2012 Allstar game... Won Outstanding Pitcher in 2012, going 21-10, 3.31 ERA... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 5/1/2015, going 3-1, 1.74... Was selected to the 2015 Allstar game... Injured on 8/22/2016 with a Torn Bicep Muscle, out for 4 weeks... Won Platinum Glove at Pitcher in 2016...

Pitching Leader Boards Appearances

ERA 2004 - 3.83 - 7th 2006 - 2.83 - 1st 2007 - 3.11 - 4th 2008 - 2.86 - 2nd 2009 - 2.62 - 2nd 2010 - 2.58 - 1st 2011 - 2.80 - 1st 2012 - 3.31 - 6th 2013 - 3.10 - 5th 2015 - 2.97 - 3rd WHIP 2004 - 1.21 - 7th 2006 - 1.07 - 2nd 2007 - 1.05 - 3rd 2008 - 1.13 - 4th 2009 - 1.03 - 2nd 2010 - 1.00 - 1st 2011 - 1.05 - 1st 2012 - 1.09 - 1st 2013 - 1.20 - 7th Wins 2004 - 17 - 2nd 2006 - 20 - 2nd 2007 - 19 - 1st 2008 - 14 - 8th 2009 - 20 - 3rd 2010 - 18 - 3rd 2011 - 18 - 1st 2012 - 21 - 1st 2013 - 18 - 3rd 2015 - 14 - 6th Losses 2004 - 15 - 2nd 2014 - 15 - 7th 2017 - 12 - 10th IP 2004 - 247.0 - 3rd 2005 - 228.2 - 5th 2006 - 241.1 - 5th 2007 - 263.0 - 1st 2008 - 257.2 - 1st 2009 - 261.0 - 1st 2010 - 276.0 - 1st 2011 - 264.0 - 1st 2012 - 264.0 - 1st 2013 - 261.2 - 1st 2014 - 228.1 - 8th 2015 - 239.2 - 5th K's 2004 - 192 - 6th 2005 - 169 - 7th 2006 - 152 - 9th 2007 - 189 - 4th 2008 - 210 - 3rd 2009 - 209 - 4th 2010 - 210 - 4th 2011 - 173 - 5th 2012 - 224 - 3rd 2013 - 185 - 7th 2014 - 161 - 10th CG 2004 - 2 - 7th 2005 - 4 - 3rd 2006 - 4 - 2nd 2007 - 3 - 10th 2009 - 7 - 1st 2010 - 5 - 1st 2011 - 4 - 1st 2012 - 4 - 3rd 2014 - 2 - 10th 2016 - 3 - 6th 2017 - 1 - 9th SHO 2004 - 1 - 3rd 2005 - 2 - 4th 2006 - 2 - 2nd 2007 - 2 - 2nd 2009 - 2 - 1st 2010 - 2 - 1st 2011 - 2 - 1st 2016 - 2 - 5th 2017 - 0 - 10th

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[Ben E Lou]

This closer was born 1/25/75. Dominant stretch from age 29-35. Very effective from 36-38. Decent from 39-41. Dropped off table at 42.


OK, I'm now officially getting excited.

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2004 61 0 3 2 30 1.74 67.1 48 14 13 16 86 0 0 TB,L1 2005 70 0 8 0 37 1.98 81.2 47 19 18 25 102 0 0 TB,L1 2006 47 0 7 3 25 1.96 59.2 43 18 13 15 80 0 0 CLE 2007 60 0 6 3 35 2.07 69.2 50 19 16 22 81 0 0 CLE,L1 2008 53 0 13 7 25 3.43 63.0 43 25 24 22 75 0 0 CLE 2009 54 0 6 3 34 1.93 65.1 51 15 14 12 74 0 0 CLE 2010 51 0 7 1 31 1.07 67.0 40 11 8 18 84 0 0 CLE,L1 2011 58 0 5 3 34 3.60 80.0 72 33 32 35 99 0 0 CLE 2012 63 0 4 6 42 2.66 67.2 73 28 20 22 67 0 0 C( 2013 63 0 5 7 30 3.03 71.1 71 26 24 25 57 0 0 C(,L1 2014 61 0 5 5 32 4.35 62.0 60 32 30 32 61 0 0 TOR 2015 58 0 8 3 1 3.28 57.2 43 21 21 21 46 0 0 TOR 2016 49 0 1 2 3 4.44 52.2 51 30 26 25 54 0 0 TOR 2017 41 0 1 2 1 7.41 37.2 51 38 31 24 27 0 0 MON Total 789 0 79 47 360 2.89 902.2 743 329 290 314 993 0 0

[Ben E Lou]

But it varies. This guy was born 7/19/76. One of the most reliable guys around from 28-36, struggles at 37-38, Essentially done at 39.

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2004 32 32 14 10 0 3.31 209.1 164 83 77 60 227 4 0 DET,L1 2005 36 36 10 11 0 3.03 255.1 203 102 86 79 273 2 1 DET 2006 37 37 16 13 0 3.67 240.0 198 107 98 85 264 1 0 DET 2007 37 37 17 8 0 3.05 253.2 180 99 86 77 272 3 2 NY 2008 37 37 15 7 0 3.29 246.1 183 93 90 71 258 1 1 NY,L2 2009 37 37 23 7 0 3.16 236.1 185 91 83 71 253 0 0 NY,L2 2010 37 37 20 10 0 3.00 228.0 171 91 76 66 237 1 1 NY,L2 2011 34 34 17 8 0 3.20 210.2 158 95 75 72 252 0 0 NY,L2 2012 37 37 19 9 0 3.25 227.0 183 89 82 80 208 1 1 NY,L2 2013 28 28 12 7 0 4.81 153.1 150 84 82 65 143 0 0 NY 2014 34 34 10 15 0 4.72 200.1 192 113 105 90 186 0 0 NY 2015 39 12 3 9 2 5.99 94.2 106 70 63 49 88 0 0 NY 2016 1 1 0 0 0 1.35 6.2 5 1 1 3 7 0 0 NY TB Total 426 399 176 114 2 3.53 2561.2 2078 1118 1004 868 2668 13 6

[Tekneek]

A contract extension of 2,018 years?

[Ben E Lou]

Born in '78. Abrupt retirement. No injury. Still at the top of his game at age 38:

Career Batting Stats

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 2004 155 576 189 38 3 42 107 130 112 67 3 2 .328 .438 .623 1.061 BAL,L1 2005 156 561 176 39 2 31 92 106 113 67 3 4 .314 .429 .556 .985 BAL,L1 2006 155 569 190 36 4 33 101 119 103 58 2 1 .334 .436 .585 1.021 BAL,L1 2007 156 561 187 29 4 38 117 120 133 61 3 1 .333 .461 .602 1.064 BAL,L1 2008 144 529 184 46 3 31 97 123 97 53 3 1 .348 .449 .622 1.071 NY,L1 2009 158 568 184 36 1 38 129 114 122 78 5 2 .324 .443 .592 1.035 NY,L1 2010 154 576 198 40 5 35 109 116 97 81 0 0 .344 .438 .613 1.051 NY,L1 2011 156 610 214 33 2 37 124 133 87 78 4 2 .351 .432 .593 1.025 NY,L1 2012 153 563 162 42 2 30 100 104 124 95 5 3 .288 .416 .529 .946 NY 2013 161 643 203 36 6 42 124 137 96 114 1 0 .316 .405 .586 .991 NY,L1 2014 156 580 205 51 3 36 116 126 104 79 2 2 .353 .452 .638 1.090 TB,L1 2015 155 589 174 46 5 40 130 117 82 94 2 1 .295 .382 .594 .976 TB,L1 2016 158 602 184 42 5 44 125 117 79 111 0 0 .306 .386 .611 .997 TB,L1 Total 2017 7527 2450 514 45 477 1471 1562 1349 1036 33 19 .325 .428 .596 1.024

[Ben E Lou]

A comment on player development (and I know some beta guys are reading, so I'd love to hear their take on this one as well):

So far, from looking over the stats of the career leaders after 15 season, it appears that the top players are usually hitting the bigs a little earlier than in previous versions. Right now, the league's better position players seems to have generally hit the bigs in the age 21-23 range. I'm working up a quick little study right now to give y'all some hard numbers.

[Ben E Lou]

(Still working on the little study, but just a comment...)

Here's something that is not abundant clear to me yet, as I haven't followed the chatter at OOTP Developments extremely closely. With ratings for "stuff" and "movement", what exactly does each one represent?

[Booj]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

(Still working on the little study, but just a comment...)

Here's something that is not abundant clear to me yet, as I haven't followed the chatter at OOTP Developments extremely closely. With ratings for "stuff" and "movement", what exactly does each one represent?

Here is the final list of pitcher ratings:
Stuff (heavily influences Ks)
Movement (Influences HRs)
Control (Influences BBs, and slightly Ks and HRs)
Velocity (Slightly influences Ks)

Endurance, Hold Runners, HBP, Balks and WPs.

Cheers,
Markus (dated Feb 23rd)

[Ben E Lou]

Another fun player card. First career win a couple of weeks after his 20th birthday:

#3 Don "Bootleg" Dunbar, Starting Pitcher, 29 yrs, Toronto Sunday, 10/10/2018

[img]file:///C:/PROGRA~1/OUTOFT~1/OOTP6~1/graphics/defaultphoto.bmp[/img] Name : Nickname : Birthday : Age : Born in : Height : Weight : Position : Bats : Throws : Don Dunbar Bootleg 7/3/1989 29 USA 6"4 210 Starting Pitcher R R Desire for Winner : Loyalty : Team Leader Skills : Consistency : Clutch Performance : Injury Rating : Overall Rating : Minimal Loyal None at all Good Normal Normal 4.5 Stars

Contract & Roster Status

Contract : Salary : Signed Through : Years of MLB Service : MLB Service Days this Year : Years on 40-Man Roster : Years of Pro Service : Rule 5 Draft Eligibility : Arbitration Eligibility : Minor League Option Years : Big League Contract $ 10,508,400 2020 9 Year(s), 80 Days (1628 total Days) 185 Day(s) 10 Year(s), 25 Days (1745 total Days) 10 Year(s) Protected (on 40 Man Roster) Not eligible 3 Option Year(s) left

Pitching Ratings

Pitching Stuff Movement Control Velocity Overall 89 90 29 98-100 Mph Versus LHB 87 87 25 Versus RHB 90 93 32 Talent 96 89 35

Pitching Ratings Endurance : Groundball Pct. : Holding Runners : 93 35 3 Pitches: Fastball Changeup Curveball

Batting Ratings

Batting Contact Gap Power Discipline/Eye Avoid K's Overall 1 29 3 14 11 Versus LHP 1 29 3 14 11 Versus RHP 1 29 3 14 11 Talent 1 29 3 14 11

Running & Bunting Ratings Running Speed : Stealing Ability : Sacrifice Bunt : Bunt for Hit : Hitter Type : 15 11 4 1 Spray Hitter Fielding Ratings P : 19 (Range), .972 (Fielding Pct.) Catcher Arm : 2 Outfield Arm : 18

Game Log, Last 10 Games

Date Opp. Result Start IP H R ER BB K Dec 8/22 CLE W 13-5 * 6.1 6 4 4 7 4 W 8/27 @TB W 11-8 * 3.2 6 5 5 5 3 9/2 @C( W 6-1 * 8.2 6 1 1 2 12 W PoG 9/7 DET L 5-7 * 2.2 5 5 1 2 3 L 9/12 NY W 8-5 * 7.2 5 4 4 4 7 9/18 @BOS W 7-2 * 8.1 5 2 1 2 9 W PoG 9/23 BOS W 5-3 * 7.1 8 3 3 5 7 9/28 C( W 8-1 * 7.2 6 1 1 2 7 W 10/2 @C( W 7-5 * 7 6 3 3 2 7 W 10/6 @CIN W 3-2 * 7 5 2 2 3 6 W

Pitching Stats 2018

Overall G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG CG% SHO QS QS% 35 35 20 5 0 3.71 228.0 197 103 94 128 235 0 .0 0 18 51.4

Overall SVO BS SV% RA GF R/9 H/9 K/9 BB/9 RL RLS RLS% IR IRS IRS% ERC 0 0 .0 0 0 13.0 7.8 9.3 5.1 27 1 3.7 0 0 .0 4.17

AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SF SH HP AVG OBP SLG OPS vs. LHB 407 105 14 0 19 53 55 70 94 0 0 3 .258 .369 .432 .802 vs. RHB 444 92 13 1 13 45 48 58 141 0 0 1 .207 .297 .329 .626

G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K Home 20 20 11 3 0 3.21 131.2 114 53 47 82 135 Road 15 15 9 2 0 4.39 96.1 83 50 47 46 100 Postseason 1 1 1 0 0 2.57 7.0 5 2 2 3 6 This Week 1 1 1 0 0 2.57 7.0 5 2 2 3 6 Last Week 2 2 2 0 0 2.45 14.2 12 4 4 4 14

Month G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K March/April 6 6 3 1 0 2.82 38.1 28 12 12 19 43 May 5 5 3 0 0 4.45 30.1 32 15 15 16 33 June 6 6 3 2 0 5.49 39.1 38 26 24 20 41 July 5 5 4 0 0 2.55 35.1 24 10 10 25 31 August 6 6 3 1 0 4.84 35.1 34 21 19 29 35 Sept./Oct. 7 7 4 1 0 2.55 49.1 41 19 14 19 52

Career Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO Teams 2009 13 13 3 5 0 4.80 75.0 71 46 40 53 62 0 0 CIN 2010 35 35 13 14 0 4.51 211.2 171 117 106 117 220 0 0 CIN 2011 34 34 9 15 0 5.82 179.1 172 124 116 132 210 0 0 CIN 2012 33 33 10 14 0 4.47 191.1 161 103 95 87 228 1 0 CIN 2013 34 34 9 13 0 4.43 187.0 157 103 92 106 230 0 0 CIN 2014 39 38 7 14 0 4.81 219.0 203 126 117 115 258 1 0 CIN 2015 37 37 18 5 0 3.10 246.2 176 87 85 115 263 2 1 CIN,L2 2016 36 36 11 15 0 4.41 228.2 196 117 112 123 235 4 0 TOR 2017 35 35 18 12 0 3.48 245.2 183 98 95 133 235 2 0 TOR 2018 35 35 20 5 0 3.71 228.0 197 103 94 128 235 0 0 TOR,L1 Total 331 330 118 112 0 4.26 2012.1 1687 1024 952 1109 2176 10 1

Career Minor League Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 2008, A 12 12 5 3 0 2.74 92.0 68 31 28 34 70 2 1 2008, AA 12 12 2 5 0 3.35 94.0 72 35 35 33 81 4 0 2009, AA 2 2 0 1 0 2.63 13.2 15 6 4 4 18 0 0 2009, AAA 14 14 3 5 0 4.03 96.0 97 45 43 47 108 0 0

Career Postseason Pitching Stats

Year G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 2018 1 1 1 0 0 2.57 7.0 5 2 2 3 6 0 0 Total 1 1 1 0 0 2.57 7.0 5 2 2 3 6 0 0

Career Batting Stats

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 2009 13 23 3 1 0 0 2 2 0 9 0 0 .130 .130 .174 .304 CIN 2010 35 71 4 3 0 0 4 4 2 26 0 0 .056 .082 .099 .181 CIN 2011 34 59 2 0 0 0 1 0 2 18 0 0 .034 .066 .034 .099 CIN 2012 33 61 4 0 0 1 1 2 3 23 0 0 .066 .109 .115 .224 CIN 2013 34 57 7 3 0 0 2 3 2 19 0 0 .123 .153 .175 .328 CIN 2014 39 60 9 1 0 1 4 6 3 24 0 0 .150 .190 .217 .407 CIN 2015 37 77 7 2 0 0 4 6 5 24 0 0 .091 .146 .117 .263 CIN,L2 2016 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 TOR 2017 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 TOR Total 296 408 36 10 0 2 18 23 17 143 0 0 .088 .125 .127 .252

Fielding Stats 2018

Position G GS PO A DP TC E PCT INN RANGE PB RSTA RTO RTO% Pitcher 35 35 11 17 3 30 2 .933 228.0 1.18

Player History

Drafted in 1st round, 2nd overall pick, by Cincinnati in 2008... Injured on 8/25/2008 with a Spasms Back, out for 5-6 weeks... Injured on 5/25/2009 with a Bruised Finger, out for 2 days... Earned first career win on 7/19/2009... Had first career hit on 8/19/2009, off Sebastian Fuster (C()... Hit first career homerun on 5/5/2012, off Michael Pillar (C()... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 6/1/2015, going 6-1, 1.88... Struck out 15 batters against Florida on 6/29/2015... Was selected to the 2015 Allstar game... Signed as a free agent by Toronto on 2/12/2016 to a 5-year deal worth $10,508,400 per year... Was selected to the 2018 Allstar game... Won Pitcher of the Month award on 8/1/2018, going 4-0, 2.55... Won World Championship with Toronto in 2018... Won Outstanding Pitcher in 2018, going 20-5, 3.71 ERA...

Pitching Leader Boards Appearances

ERA 2015 - 3.10 - 4th 2017 - 3.48 - 5th WHIP 2012 - 1.30 - 10th 2015 - 1.18 - 6th 2017 - 1.29 - 7th Wins 2015 - 18 - 1st 2017 - 18 - 4th Losses 2010 - 14 - 4th 2011 - 15 - 3rd 2012 - 14 - 4th 2013 - 13 - 8th 2014 - 14 - 8th 2016 - 15 - 4th IP 2014 - 219.0 - 10th 2015 - 246.2 - 2nd 2016 - 228.2 - 7th 2017 - 245.2 - 3rd K's 2010 - 220 - 3rd 2011 - 210 - 3rd 2012 - 228 - 2nd 2013 - 230 - 2nd 2014 - 258 - 1st 2015 - 263 - 1st 2016 - 235 - 1st 2017 - 235 - 2nd BB 2010 - 117 - 1st 2011 - 132 - 1st 2012 - 87 - 8th 2013 - 106 - 2nd 2014 - 115 - 1st 2015 - 115 - 1st 2016 - 123 - 1st 2017 - 133 - 1st CG 2015 - 2 - 6th 2016 - 4 - 5th SHO 2015 - 1 - 6th

[Ben E Lou]

OK, here's a quick look that should help begin to give you a snapshot on player development. These are the top 10 home run hitters from 2018 and Top 10 pitchers in ERA from the same year:

Name	Draft	Yrs in Minors	First call-up	First 400-AB season
Juan Ramirez	1(1)	1+	23	23
Hipolito Castro	1(6)	1.5+	23	25
Timothy Pankey	1(2)	1+	22	24
Karl Sayer	1(1)	2	23	26
Christian Bergeson	1(3)	.5+	21	22
Aaron Loughran	1(8)	3.75+	23	26
Ezekial Carreras	1(4)	.5+	22	24
Jessie Sosa	WAS FROM ORIGINAL PLAYER POOL
Alvin Caperton	WAS FROM ORIGINAL PLAYER POOL
Gabriel Milliner	3(36)	7+	21	27
Name	Draft	Yrs in Minors	First call-up	First 150IP season
Manuel Guasch	1(14)	2+	25	25
David Wurm	WAS FROM ORIGINAL PLAYER POOL
Dennis Smith	1(8)	1	23	23
Joseph Dix	WAS FROM ORIGINAL PLAYER POOL
David Rogers	4(56)	6+	23	26
Sebastian Fuster	1(4)	1.5	22	24
Cedric Baeza	2(27)	up/down	25	28
Victor King	WAS FROM ORIGINAL PLAYER POOL
Heriberto Escobedo	1(7)	up/down for 5	20	24
Francisco Pelaez	1(5)	1+	21	23

[Ben E Lou]

Proof positive that the young player (and this appears to be rare, as it should be) can be a star. All-star seasons at 21 and 22:

#98 Mathew Voigt, Rightfield, 22 yrs, Cincinnati Sunday, 10/10/2018

[img]file:///C:/PROGRA~1/OUTOFT~1/OOTP6~1/graphics/defaultphoto.bmp[/img] Name : Nickname : Birthday : Age : Born in : Height : Weight : Position : Bats : Throws : Mathew Voigt 10/12/1995 22 USA 6"1 200 Rightfield L L Desire for Winner : Loyalty : Team Leader Skills : Consistency : Clutch Performance : Injury Rating : Prospect rating : Average Average None at all Average Normal Normal 5.0 Stars

Contract & Roster Status

Contract : Salary : Signed Through : Years of MLB Service : MLB Service Days this Year : Years on 40-Man Roster : Years of Pro Service : Rule 5 Draft Eligibility : Arbitration Eligibility : Minor League Option Years : Big League Contract $ 300,000 2018 (Possible Arbitration) 2 Year(s), 55 Days (399 total Days) 185 Day(s) 2 Year(s), 95 Days (439 total Days) 3 Year(s) Protected (on 40 Man Roster) 2 Option Year(s) left

Ratings

Batting Contact Gap Power Discipline/Eye Avoid K's Overall 69 59 60 79 63 Versus LHP 57 55 59 73 55 Versus RHP 74 61 61 82 67 Talent 76 60 94 100 67

Running & Bunting Ratings Running Speed : Stealing Ability : Baserunning Instincts : Sacrifice Bunt : Bunt for Hit : Hitter Type : 59 86 94 1 1 Pull Hitter Fielding Ratings LF : 72 (Range), .983 (Fielding Pct.) CF : 67 (Range), .985 (Fielding Pct.) RF : 49 (Range), .982 (Fielding Pct.) Catcher Arm : 4 Infield Arm : 37 Outfield Arm : 38

Game Log, Last 10 Games

Date Opp. Result AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K Spot 9/25 PHI W 5-1 3 3 3 1 0 1 2 1 0 #1 PoG 9/26 @FLO L 8-9 5 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 #1 9/28 NY L 0-2 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 #1 9/29 @ATL L 7-13 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 #1 10/1 @HOU L 3-6 3 1 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 #1 10/2 C( W 2-1 5 1 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 #1 10/5 TOR L 3-6 4 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 #1 10/6 TOR L 2-3 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 #1 10/8 @TOR L 3-5 5 1 3 0 0 1 3 0 0 #1 PoG 10/9 @TOR L 1-12 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 #1

Batting Stats 2018

Batting G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K AVG OBP SLG OPS TAVG ISO 157 633 191 24 1 22 79 119 79 74 .302 .378 .447 .826 .894 .145

Batting GS PA HP IW CI GDP SH SF TB EBH SB CS SB% RC RC/27 147 716 1 0 0 9 0 3 283 47 52 13 80.0 119.5 6.9

AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SF SH HP AVG OBP SLG OPS vs. LHP 115 29 4 0 4 15 16 10 17 1 0 1 .252 .315 .391 .706 vs. RHP 518 162 20 1 18 64 103 69 57 2 0 0 .313 .392 .459 .852 Close/Late 69 24 4 0 3 11 13 6 11 1 0 0 .348 .395 .536 .931 Scoring Position 144 39 8 1 3 54 0 15 16 3 0 0 .271 .333 .403 .736 Pinch Hitting 5 2 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 .400 .429 .400 .829

G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K AVG OBP SLG OPS Home 77 293 84 8 1 9 35 48 37 32 .287 .366 .413 .779 Road 80 340 107 16 0 13 44 71 42 42 .315 .390 .476 .866 This Week 4 18 6 1 0 1 3 1 0 4 .333 .333 .556 .889 Last Week 4 17 6 0 0 0 0 2 3 2 .353 .450 .353 .803 March/April 25 107 30 3 1 4 15 16 9 8 .280 .342 .439 .781 May 26 108 39 7 0 3 16 29 17 14 .361 .444 .509 .954 June 28 104 31 5 0 3 13 19 15 14 .298 .383 .433 .816 July 23 96 30 4 0 3 13 13 9 13 .313 .371 .448 .819 August 27 99 29 4 0 3 12 20 14 12 .293 .377 .424 .801 Sept/Oct 28 119 32 1 0 6 10 22 15 13 .269 .351 .429 .779 Postseason 4 18 6 1 0 1 3 1 0 4 .333 .333 .556 .889

Career Batting Stats

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams 2016 38 146 45 10 1 2 23 29 15 18 13 2 .308 .373 .432 .804 CIN 2017 154 600 197 31 7 12 76 128 58 74 49 16 .328 .388 .463 .851 CIN,L2 2018 157 633 191 24 1 22 79 119 79 74 52 13 .302 .378 .447 .826 CIN,L2 Total 349 1379 433 65 9 36 178 276 152 166 114 31 .314 .382 .453 .835

Career Minor League Batting Stats

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2015, A 81 292 87 13 0 18 54 55 58 44 12 0 .298 .410 .527 .937 2015, AA 57 215 70 11 1 14 38 37 48 31 7 2 .326 .444 .581 1.025 2016, AAA 111 414 119 19 8 12 64 70 76 61 14 1 .287 .393 .459 .852

Career Postseason Batting Stats

Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2017 6 23 2 0 0 0 0 3 3 7 1 0 .087 .192 .087 .279 2018 4 18 6 1 0 1 3 1 0 4 0 0 .333 .333 .556 .889 Total 10 41 8 1 0 1 3 4 3 11 1 0 .195 .250 .293 .543

Fielding Stats 2018

Position G GS PO A DP TC E PCT INN RANGE PB RSTA RTO RTO% Centerfield 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 1.000 7.0 1.29 Rightfield 152 147 323 8 4 333 2 .994 1308.0 2.29

Player History

Drafted in 1st round, 1st overall pick, by Cincinnati in 2015... Injured on 9/5/2015 with a Bruised Ribs, out for 1-2 weeks... Had first career hit on 5/7/2016, off Ross Uribe (ATL)... Hit first career homerun on 8/16/2016, off Makoto Kazuhiro (MON)... Won Player of the Week award on 4/12/2017, hitting .448 with 1 HR, 7 RBI... Had 6 hits with 3 RBI against Houston on 5/27/2017... Was selected to the 2017 Allstar game... Won Player of the Week award on 8/16/2017, hitting .500 with 0 HR, 5 RBI... Won Player of the Week award on 4/26/2018, hitting .379 with 3 HR, 9 RBI... Was selected to the 2018 Allstar game...

Batting Leader Boards Appearances

AVG 2017 - .328 - 3rd OBP 2017 - .388 - 10th Hits 2017 - 197 - 2nd Triples 2017 - 7 - 7th Runs 2017 - 128 - 1st SB 2017 - 49 - 2nd

[Ben E Lou]

My evaluation of OOTP6 so far....


I am now *VERY* happy that my wife is having a jewelry-making party with her girlfriends on Friday night.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

My evaluation of OOTP6 so far....


I am now *VERY* happy that my wife is having a jewelry-making party with her girlfriends on Friday night.

You hinting at something.. or you just taunting us with your beta copy?

hehe