My Oakland Raiders looking great in preseason. - Page 2

Raiders Army · 08-28-2006, 06:32 PM

They'll release him before the regular season. He was signed because of Andrew Walter's right shoulder injury.

pennywisesb · 08-28-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

They'll release him before the regular season. He was signed because of Andrew Walter's right shoulder injury.

We can only hope dude. We can only hope.

Raiders Army · 08-28-2006, 06:51 PM

*crosses fingers*

TroyF · 08-28-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

They'll release him before the regular season. He was signed because of Andrew Walter's right shoulder injury.

Why would they sign George than? What's the point? They have a 3rd stringer who has been in the system for years. If they think Walter's shoulder is going to be fine, there is no need to sign George before the start of the season. Just give your third guy more reps and let him play most of the final preseason game.

And why George? There are QB's out there to sign. Maybe not good QB's, but certainly ones that have thrown an NFL pass in the last five seasons.

This is typical Al Davis. As a Broncos fan, I'm a member of the "give Al Davis the fountain of youth" club.

Raiders Army · 08-28-2006, 07:56 PM

Even though it smacks of Al, I gotta give him props for bringing back Art Shell. I don't think the Silver and Black would be doing as well under Norv. In the back of my head, I'm hoping that there is something here that we don't see.

Mo.Raider · 08-28-2006, 08:07 PM

The Jeff George thing is kind of strange/baffling.

TroyF

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BThey have a 3rd stringer who has been in the system for years. If they think Walter's shoulder is going to be fine, there is no need to sign George before the start of the season. Just give your third guy more reps and let him play most of the final preseason game.

Tui has been on the team, but not in the system. The system is new/old circa the Plunkett years, and is not suited for Tui's skills. Maybe George has been signed as a third stringer and a trade is in the works for Tui. He could be very successful in a west coast offense.

I was ready for Art to go last time around also. He wasn't that bad, just not great. I don't think Al will pull the plug on him this time. He is here until he wants to leave. But I think/hope he has improved his coaching skills since his last stint. I remember a Patriots coach that improved in his second gig, and it seems like Art has brought a new passion this time around.

By the way my brother in law is a Donkey fan also, makes for some interesting games

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TroyF · 08-28-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo.Raider

The Jeff George thing is kind of strange/baffling.

TroyF

Tui has been on the team, but not in the system. The system is new/old circa the Plunkett years, and is not suited for Tui's skills. Maybe George has been signed as a third stringer and a trade is in the works for Tui. He could be very successful in a west coast offense.

I was ready for Art to go last time around also. He wasn't that bad, just not great. I don't think Al will pull the plug on him this time. He is here until he wants to leave. But I think/hope he has improved his coaching skills since his last stint. I remember a Patriots coach that improved in his second gig, and it seems like Art has brought a new passion this time around.

By the way my brother in law is a Donkey fan also, makes for some interesting games

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I just can't see George agreeing to come on as the third string QB.

As for Shell, I like the guy. But some of the moves he's already made are simply baffling. Bringing in an offensive coordinator who last coached ANY level of football in 1998 is insanity. Going back to the Plunkett offense is insanity.

I see no way this doesn't end up in flames like his last stint. I think he can coach, but Oakland is where decent coaches go to die. (see Shanahan, Mike)

Joe · 08-28-2006, 10:26 PM

George hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL in five years, and he's still better than their current starter. Sad.

jbmagic · 08-28-2006, 10:32 PM

I hope you guys don't make any excuses when the Raiders play well this season.

Mo.Raider · 08-28-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

I just can't see George agreeing to come on as the third string QB.

As for Shell, I like the guy. But some of the moves he's already made are simply baffling. Bringing in an offensive coordinator who last coached ANY level of football in 1998 is insanity. Going back to the Plunkett offense is insanity.

I see no way this doesn't end up in flames like his last stint. I think he can coach, but Oakland is where decent coaches go to die. (see Shanahan, Mike)

Maybe George needs the dough. I agree the Mike Walsh hiring made me a little nervous, but Art seems to be comfortable with him, and I have seen many old coaches come out of retirement and be just fine.

Oakland is where many coaches grow into great coaches. (see Madden, John)

jbmagic · 08-28-2006, 10:37 PM

Maybe they sign George so he can retire as a Raider.

cthomer5000 · 08-29-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

I hope you guys don't make any excuses when the Raiders play well this season.

ROFL

Godzilla Blitz · 08-29-2006, 09:05 AM

I only have seen the Raiders/Vikings game, but I wasn't impressed with Oakland at that point. Brooks and Moss seemed to be already be at odds with each other, the Raiders got a ton of stupid penalties, and Shell was walking the sideline in the second half telling players to move back from the field. Little things, sure, but I saw little evidence of effective discipline or organization.

I question Shell's coaching hires as well. Being a Hall of Fame player does not mean that you are a Hall of Fame coach, and it seems as if he just reached out to friends he knew rather than doing a comprehensive search for good candidates.

Certainly things should improve from the early preseason, but there are clues in the early preseason that can shed a lot of light on how well a team will play during the year. What I saw in Oakland was a sub .500 team.

Pumpy Tudors · 08-29-2006, 11:48 AM

This thread is proof that every team gives their fans some hope for the upcoming season.

Well, maybe not the Jets.

st.cronin · 08-29-2006, 01:10 PM

I am really excited about the return of Jeff George. He's one of my favorite all-time athletes.

TroyF · 08-29-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

I hope you guys don't make any excuses when the Raiders play well this season.

Should we dig up that thread where three or four games into last year where you predicted the Raiders to win the division?

Did you make sure to bump that thread around week 14 and admit failure or did you pretend it didn't exist and run as far as you could from it?

Don't worry. I'll be here. The Raiders play well, it's not a big deal to me. I don't like em, but there isn't anything wrong with them being good. Good for the rivalry.

Still, I don't think it's going to be us worrying about excuses. Get ready for 7-9 or worse, that's where you'll reside.

stevew · 09-11-2006, 11:48 PM

Too early to bump yet?

RendeR · 09-11-2006, 11:50 PM

7-9 would be a dream season for this team, the Raiders will be lucky to win 4 with this squad.

Abe Sargent · 09-11-2006, 11:50 PM

Nah, not too early

Vince · 09-11-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Too early to bump yet?

Perhaps. The Chargers have a really good defense.

jbmagic · 09-11-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Nah, not too early

Not yet

Next week at Baltimore. Ouch

cthomer5000 · 09-11-2006, 11:54 PM

wow is Oakland awful.

TazFTW · 09-11-2006, 11:56 PM

Flip a coin with the Packers and start negotiations with Brady Quinn.

jbmagic · 09-11-2006, 11:58 PM

Whats the last team to have no points after the first 2 games of the season?

It could happen with My Raiders after we play Baltimore next week.

k0ruptr · 09-12-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Whats the last team to have no points after the first 2 games of the season?

It could happen with My Raiders after we play Baltimore next week.

No worries they are still gonna win 10 games right???

jbmagic · 09-12-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

No worries they are still gonna win 10 games right???

yep

Still too early.

A lot of great teams lost in the first week this season.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-12-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

yep

Still too early.

A lot of great teams lost in the first week this season.

Yeah, a lot of great teams got shut out 27-0 by a team that played one dimensionally on offense. No need to worry.

Rizon · 09-12-2006, 12:09 AM

The league should probably step in and do something about the Faiders before someone on that team is seriously hurt. I vote contraction.

Neuqua · 09-12-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

yep

Still too early.

A lot of great teams lost in the first week this season.

Do a lot of teams have their fans predicting them being held scoreless in the first two weekends also?

jbmagic · 09-12-2006, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Do a lot of teams have their fans predicting them being held scoreless in the first two weekends also?

Its possible. I can't deny it.

Being realistic it can happen because there playing Baltimore next week.

RendeR · 09-12-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

The league should probably step in and do something about the Faiders before someone on that team is seriously hurt. I vote contraction.

Arnold wants a team in LA, they could mov.....oh wait...nevermind...

mtolson · 09-12-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Yeah, a lot of great teams got shut out 27-0 by a team that played one dimensionally on offense. No need to worry.

one dimensionally ? They didn't even do that after the first half. The offense basically folded and let the defense have at them.

bhlloy · 09-12-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

My Oakland Raiders looking great in preseason.

The offensive line is looking great and giving QB brooks time to do his thing.

The defense is playing well.

I hope they can continue this in the regular season.

I hate to pile on, but this looks like the most incorrect post in FOF history. I can't remember an offensive line playing worse.

JeeberD · 09-12-2006, 12:32 AM

How about that Thomas Howard!

Lorena · 09-12-2006, 12:38 AM

That offensive line was so pitiful my grandma could have sacked Brooks. Aweful, just aweful.

Poli · 09-12-2006, 12:41 AM

Without reading anything here, I know nothing good can come from this thread.

SunDevil · 09-12-2006, 12:45 AM

So starting to turn my way..

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...1&postcount=40

EagleFan · 09-12-2006, 01:28 AM

dam you stevew, I was going to bump this thread...

Danny · 09-12-2006, 01:29 AM

Im going to start rooting for a new team.

MrBigglesworth · 09-12-2006, 01:38 AM

That was one of the worst games I have ever seen.

Ksyrup · 09-12-2006, 06:38 AM

This thread has Elmo potential.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-12-2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

This thread is proof that every team gives their fans some hope for the upcoming season.

Well, maybe not the Jets.

Thankfully, due to the Chargers completely annihilating the Raiders last night, my comment about the Jets slipped through the cracks.

TroyF · 09-12-2006, 07:51 AM

OK guys. 15 games left for the Raiders, you tell me where they get their ten wins:

@Baltimore
Cleveland
@San Fran
@Denver
Arizona
Pitt
@Seattle
Denver
@KC
@SD
Houston
@Cincy
St.Louis
KC
@NY Jets

Tell me jb, where do they get their wins?

Eaglesfan27 · 09-12-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mtolson

one dimensionally ? They didn't even do that after the first half. The offense basically folded and let the defense have at them.

I was talking about the Charger's offense being essentially one dimensional at least most of the game. Yet, the Raider's couldn't stop them from scoing 27. The Raider's offense was no dimensional.

Flasch186 · 09-12-2006, 07:59 AM

boy Ahnold sounded like a moron last night too.

Bee · 09-12-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

OK guys. 15 games left for the Raiders, you tell me where they get their ten wins:

@Baltimore
Cleveland
@San Fran
@Denver
Arizona
Pitt
@Seattle
Denver
@KC
@SD
Houston
@Cincy
St.Louis
KC
@NY Jets

Tell me jb, where do they get their wins?

Well there's the two games against Denver.

Northwood_DK · 09-12-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

OK guys. 15 games left for the Raiders, you tell me where they get their ten wins:

@Baltimore
Cleveland
@San Fran
@Denver
Arizona
Pitt
@Seattle
Denver
@KC
@SD
Houston
@Cincy
St.Louis
KC
@NY Jets

I count 3 maybe 4

gottimd · 09-12-2006, 08:09 AM

Maybe if they play Green Bay the rest of the year.

TroyF · 09-12-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

Well there's the two games against Denver.

My money would be on the Broncos. This is even if they look as bad as they did yesterday.

Mustang · 09-12-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Maybe if they play Green Bay the rest of the year.

With the amount of personal tragedies that Favre has going on at any given time, I don't think the Raiders would want that.

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08-28-2006, 07:56 PM	#55
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Even though it smacks of Al, I gotta give him props for bringing back Art Shell. I don't think the Silver and Black would be doing as well under Norv. In the back of my head, I'm hoping that there is something here that we don't see.

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Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	George hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL in five years, and he's still better than their current starter. Sad.

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TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	OK guys. 15 games left for the Raiders, you tell me where they get their ten wins: @Baltimore Cleveland @San Fran @Denver Arizona Pitt @Seattle Denver @KC @SD Houston @Cincy St.Louis KC @NY Jets Tell me jb, where do they get their wins?

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