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I didn't understand the Cally's baby story. Didn't make since to have her child's real father be just another member of the fleet. I saw her getting pregnant when she was held captive on the prison ship and maybe even of having the father been Zarek. OR, I was also thing Baltar would have been a good story line.
But, why go with Crewman #5? Doesn't seem like enough of a storyline here?
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The storyline of the kid not being a hybrid is enough, I think. Involving someone else we know well would have been too eye rolling, IMO.
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Isn't the guy who plays the real father the son of Edward James Olmos? Maybe they gave him a bigger role as a favor to the old man.
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Maybe I'm misremembering, but I seem to remember that he and Cally had some chemistry/flirting back when the Chief wasn't available, so it made sense to me.
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I was just having flashbacks when Baltar went into the chiefs room and was telling him how hot his dead wife was and I also remembered how the baby like hearing Baltars voice, so this would have made perfect since to me.
I never remember anything about how long the Chief and Cally dated or how long after they were married that the baby was born, 6 months? Did she have an affair while they were married, or was it a pregnant wedding?
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He's not crewman #5. He's Hotdog. He was one of the original viper pilots trained by Kara on board BSG since Season 1, Ep.4 , along with Kat and Chuckles. He's been a key viper pilot in several missions throughout the BSG run.
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I think the webisodes only amplified it. I think even if you don't see the episodes, you can understand Gaeta's hate, which is now directed at both sides, it seems. Here's a guy who did everything he could on New Caprica and was harshly ostracized for it the rest of Season 3. Here's a guy who loses his leg because of a hunch by Starbuck which, if you look at it a certain way, wasn't necessary to fulfill (even without the Cylons, you'd have to think that Anders & Tyrol would eventually have figured out the Viper signal and the fleet would have gotten to Earth, and that's not even including the point that apparently getting to Earth was pointless anyway). Also think back to the episode (a few episodes ago?) when Gaeta drops something in the CiC and Tigh condescendingly asks if he wants to be relieved and it's Dualla who picks the object up for Gaeta. And then later she kills herself and he's the last person to see her alive. Frankly, I think that by now that Gaeta's unhinged, and I don't blame him. The webisodes reinforce this, but I don't think they make this new. |
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At this point, I am hoping for Gaeta's wimpy, worthless ass to get fragged somehow. Or lose another body part. As long as I don't have to hear him sing again, that is.
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01-26-2009, 10:25 AM | #59 |
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I'm just very disspointed with Geata. his entire character has been fracked to hell, and with good reason based on everything he's gone through, but I just wish he'd go away. He's not even a character I can enjoy hating, he's just an awful character now and his scenes are awful to watch.
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See, I like Gaeta - some like Dee respond by giving up, Gaeta responds by getting angry. Its good to have a villain, and more tragic because we know he didn't start out that way. BSG is not now and never has been about the happy ending; its about the survival.
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01-26-2009, 12:32 PM | #61 |
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Remind me.... How did he lose his leg?
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01-26-2009, 12:38 PM | #62 |
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On the trip where Starbuck and a bunch of Galactica pilots go off in a tanker to try to find Earth and the pilots get fed up and decide to start a coup (drafting Helo to take charge). Anders grabs a gun and shoots Gaeta in the leg to prevent him from jumping the tanker.
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Oh yeah.
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I like the character fine, but I don't think the actor has the chops to pull it off.
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I think Gaeta is a pretty compelling character. He's the guy who has tried to do the right, selfless thing his entire life and was always the "good guy". Now he's in the situation where he has seen that at all of that has been, at best, for nothing and, at worst, he actually caused pain and suffering lot of innocent people. His whole world is upside down and now we get to watch him crack and see how he reacts.
Its sort of like how Dee was always the strong one and we've already seen her break... We've come close to all these characters and I think this season its all about throwing shit at them until they break. |
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what no comments about the big Adama/bald Roslyn sex scene? Ok episode with some juicy moments-Gaeta/Kara and the great Adama/Zarek showdown in the prison cell.
I'm wondering if they are foreshadowing the elder Adama's death or retirement with the pain he was in this episode-looks like he's going to have a heart attack or something. Thought the scene with Baltar wasn't very interesting and not sure where they are going with it-seems like they are just giving him something to do. Loved the Doc's comment to Tigh when Tigh couldn't see the baby on the ultrasound-about using your eyes...er eye. LOL. Next episode looks like its going to be pretty action packed-I predict at least one character will die. |
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I thought it was quite interesting that he's basically lost faith. Not just yelling out to god for answers, and that his followers should tell him to explain himself, but when ex-chief started fighting with baby daddy, it cut to Baltar looking totally like he didn't give a shit.
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Did anything ever come of Baltar's conversation with the Centurion on the Cylon BaseStar?
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Well it saved him from the blast and made Roslin find out Baltar's responsibility for the original attack . Aside from that... no. Though Baltar may feel better towards Roslin, because she didn't let him die.
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I could have sworn that at some point Baltar put a suggestion of independence in the Centurions minds.... Must just be my imagination.
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Yeah, but that Centurion was destroyed in the blast.
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I guess I was getting it confused with what happened in this episode.
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I don't think so. That centurion got blasted to bits, and Baltar almost died.
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Great episode, can't wait for next week.
Somewhat unbelievable that all the marines mutinied ... you would have thought there would be more disagreement/shooting amongst them. Starbuck is on the edge! Love how she shot the second marine without hesitation in the hanger. Adama overcoming the marines escorting him to the brig, yeah right. Where were all the fighter jocks? Another stupid Baltar appearance. Last edited by Edward64 : 01-30-2009 at 10:00 PM. |
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Wow. Just wow.
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Adama overcoming the marines is explained by surprise. Lulling the guy behind him and then him and Tigh hitting them at the same time.
Where were the fighter jocks is a great question. And if they were all backing Gaeta (as they may have been if you remember the "close the door" scene), they ain't gonna have anyone to fly missions. And Baltar's appearance was necessary to advance the plot and get him off Galactica and onto the Cylon Basestar.
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Great episode, best of the seaason I think. I loved seeing Starbuck back on edge. Her scenes were great. I had no problem with Adama and Tigh overcoming the marines with surprise. I agree with the gripe that I would expect more marines to side with Adama, but his descent into booze/despair along with the longstanding hatred of Cylons can make that somewhat believable. All of the fighter jocks were with Gaeta I think as he called out Hotdog towards the end of the episode.
Edit: I think Baltar again shows himself to be a fraud who is only concerned with self-preservation. I loved the President calling him on both of those issues.
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Well Baltar was trying to stay somewhat. He asked a few times if he really had to go.
He's just become very listless since they found Earth (as shown in last week's ep as well).
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... I was pretty sure that they were getting ready to move him for his safety and Tyrol and the women had already decided it.
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I had no trouble with Adama and Tigh kicking ass and taking names. They are both tough birds and I think they could rumble with men half their age. Combine that with the distraction that Adama setup and then the perfect timing of hitting both guys at once made it work and reminded us that these two guys know each other so well, even if Tigh is a Cylon.
I think the Marines backing Gaeta and Zarek is definitely a nature of the anti-Cylon sentiment. Appolo made the case too -- it's hard for them to accept the Cylons as allies after all that has happened. Essentially the case Roslin was making at the end was to say to tell the fleet that their choice was extinction or working with the Cylons. Great episode. Incredible action. The previews definitely lead you to believe that Tigh bites the dust next week. If that happens, it will be interesting to see if he and Ellen are resurrected -- and how. |
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I took the comment about Tigh dying to be a bluff to get Roslin to give up.
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I thought it was more a bluff to get the other Cylons to give up (ie, we've killed one of the Final Five, we'll do it to the rest too... well, except Tori who is on the Basestar).
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Hmm.. not sure... then I guess they'd still have Anders in the brig.
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I don't think all the pilots are with Gaeta. At the end, when he asks who's out there (to task someone with shooting down the raptor) he calls out one pilot specifically and asks the guy to scramble the comm line to that pilot.
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Wow. Un-frakkin-believable.
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Let me be the first to say 30 min in, this is a damn good episode! Intense.
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Damn, how many marines have gone down so far? Starbuck is going to go crazy now.
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Hmmm. Great ending but where is Starbuck?
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Starbuck seems to be all of the place most of the time. Part of her charm
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You always have to love a Romo Lampkin sighting, even if it was a bit weak this time around. I was pretty surprised at the ending. I figured Adama would lock them up but didn't expect the firing squad.
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Awesome episode!
Loved Lee and Starbuck busting out the Cylons in the brig. Anders looks not long for this body (from the previews of next week, it'll be interesting to see where he eventually comes back). Lampkin's small role was very well done and killing the Marine with the pen was awesome. Baltar also, in a rare moment, is shown thinking about more than himself, realizing his followers depended on him. Will be interested to see how his character advances the next few episodes. And glad to see Zarek and Gaeta riddled with holes.
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1 - No more Gaeta singing. Nice.
2 - The killing with the pen was LOL funny. 3 - "I'm coming for all of you!" Hilarious! They sure picked the right line to feature in the promos. And people say this show has no sense of humor. |
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I am too but there is a prequel series 'Caprica' in the making. I don't think it'll have marines, battlestars etc. so not that optimistic but its something. Caprica (series) - Battlestar Wiki Other than for the Baltar religious themes, I have really enjoyed this series and will purchase it when it comes out as a collection. |
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Adama is a beast.
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