Tiger Woods biggest mistake: getting married

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Just saw the pictures of his rumored mistress.. she isn't bad but his wife is much better looking.

maybe the wife doesnt service him enough

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Just saw the pictures of his rumored mistress.. she isn't bad but his wife is much better looking.

Eh....

[EagleFan]

This story just keeps getting stranger. I already can't see how he hits a fire hydrant and then jerks the SUV into his neighbor's yard to hit a tree.

Now they say his wife heard the accident from inside the house, ran outside to him and broke the SUV's rear window to get him out. It was then said that he was not remaining conscious when the police arrived.

Then the story ends with charges pending, but not what charges.

Are we sure it was the SUV that his wife took the golf club to?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Are we sure it was the SUV that his wife took the golf club to?

Or that she took the club to the window after the accident instead of before the accident?

[Young Drachma]

Wise philosopher once say "You think you want the crazy hot chick. But you don't."

[MalcPow]

Originally Posted by Shkspr

Old Navy did open at 3 for Black Friday, remember...

[RainMaker]

This makes a bit more sense.

Tiger Woods: Injuries Caused by Wife, Not SUV | TMZ.com

[Young Drachma]

That makes waaay more sense now.

[Galaxy]

If the this is true (and the allegations are true), does this some of the shine of Tiger's appeal (and marketing machine that could make him a billionaire)?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

If the this is true (and the allegations are true), does this some of the shine of Tiger's appeal (and marketing machine that could make him a billionaire)?

Only if he was somehow found drunk driving, banging a chick and getting entangled in a John Daly-esque scandal that somehow caused him to lose a ton of tournaments, miss cuts and drive him to drinking and to consider steroids or better yet, crystal meth.

Otherwise, no.

I think most of the major demographic of golf (aka, the folks lining his pockets) would understand a bit of domestic trouble. I mean, especially since it was her hitting him and not him having beat her or something ridiculous.

Besides, haven't most billionaire men sans Bill Gates or Warren Buffett been married more than once? It's like a right of passage.

Tiger's last scandal was that GQ interview back in the day (where he was too candid) that I think turned him into something of an automaton in the first place. This will just make him more careful.

[Chief Rum]

kcchief, while I agree with most of what you have there, the articles read specifically indicated that the FHP did not release the reported incident for 12 hours, whatever that reason may be.

[NewIdentity]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

This makes a bit more sense.

Tiger Woods: Injuries Caused by Wife, Not SUV | TMZ.com

This would also explain "the charges pending" quote.

[Logan]

Yeah, cause I know when I hear an accident in the distance, I race out with a golf club just in case anyone will need to be broken out of a window.

[Young Drachma]

Tiger Woods, wife unavailable for interview, police say - ESPN

The accident came two days after the National Enquirer published a story alleging that Woods had been seeing a New York night club hostess, and that they recently were together in Melbourne, where Woods competed in the Australian Masters.

The woman, Rachel Uchitel, denied having an affair with Woods when contacted by the AP.

"I resent my reputation is getting completely blasted in the media," she said during a telephone interview late Friday. "Everyone is assuming I came out and said this. This is not a story I have anything to do with."

Uchitel said she was in Melbourne two weeks ago with clients and never saw Woods the entire time she was there.

"The story stands for itself," National Enquirer executive editor Barry Levine told the AP on Saturday.

But then, the Enquirer rebuts her comments and exposes. supposed contradictions. The plot thickens...

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/tige...elebrity/67747

[CU Tiger]

The woman, Rachel Uchitel, denied having an affair with Woods when contacted by the AP.

"I resent my reputation is getting completely blasted in the media," she said during a telephone interview late Friday. "Everyone is assuming I came out and said this. This is not a story I have anything to do with."

Uchitel said she was in Melbourne two weeks ago with clients and never saw Woods the entire time she was there.

Is it just me or is that a pretty nice dance around the question. It doesnt appear to me that she is denying the affair ust denying her being the one to disclose it.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Is it just me or is that a pretty nice dance around the question. It doesnt appear to me that she is denying the affair ust denying her being the one to disclose it.

Yeah. I noticed that too. But I've read other quotes from her saying there's no relationship. I'm inclined to believe her, only because she was dating that Bones actor dude and that story came out at the end of last month.

That'd be a hell of a turn around. I think they're just using her because they knew the mainstream media would run with it. That said, I think Team Tiger has some 'splaining to do. I just wonder what they'll say, given how tight lipped they are about what they do...it wouldn't surprise me if they just give some terse statement and leave people to speculate or if they'll say enough to shut people up.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Even people who have more money than God can act like common trailer folk.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah, cause I know when I hear an accident in the distance, I race out with a golf club just in case anyone will need to be broken out of a window.

Let me tell you a little story? I once knew a guy who could have been a great golfer, could have gone pro, all he needed was a little time and practice. Decided to go to college instead. Went for four years, did pretty well. At the end of his four years, his last semester he was kicked out... You know what for? He was night putting, just putting at night with the fifteen-year-old daughter of the Dean... You know who that guy was Logan?

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Let me tell you a little story? I once knew a guy who could have been a great golfer, could have gone pro, all he needed was a little time and practice. Decided to go to college instead. Went for four years, did pretty well. At the end of his four years, his last semester he was kicked out... You know what for? He was night putting, just putting at night with the fifteen-year-old daughter of the Dean... You know who that guy was Logan?

Sounds like Jimmy Macs career at BYU.

[B & B]

John Cocktosten?

[Galaxy]

Reviewing the article I posted in the last page and that picture, Tiger could do better.

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Let me tell you a little story? I once knew a guy who could have been a great golfer, could have gone pro, all he needed was a little time and practice. Decided to go to college instead. Went for four years, did pretty well. At the end of his four years, his last semester he was kicked out... You know what for? He was night putting, just putting at night with the fifteen-year-old daughter of the Dean... You know who that guy was Logan?

Mike Richards?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Bob Hope?

[digamma]

Mitch Cumstein.

[rowech]

I'm glad to know that if you're the world's greatest golfer, you get special treatment in an investigation. Would any of us be able to tell the police to come back later once you're awake? Then, when they do come back, put them off another day?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by rowech

I'm glad to know that if you're the world's greatest golfer, you get special treatment in an investigation. Would any of us be able to tell the police to come back later once you're awake? Then, when they do come back, put them off another day?

Let that be a lesson to all you kids out there. Work hard, practice and someday you too can be rich and play by a different set of rules in life.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Let that be a lesson to all you kids out there. Work hard, practice and someday you too can be rich and play by a different set of rules in life.

All kidding and sarcasm aside, isn't that the American dream?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by rowech

I'm glad to know that if you're the world's greatest golfer, you get special treatment in an investigation. Would any of us be able to tell the police to come back later once you're awake? Then, when they do come back, put them off another day?

Any of us could tell the police to come back later once we're awake, it's just a matter of them listening to us or not.

[Logan]

I tried that once. They didn't.

[Danny]

But did you say please?

[Logan]

Does "fuck off" count? Alcohol may have been involved.

[tyketime]

Originally Posted by rowech

I'm glad to know that if you're the world's greatest golfer, you get special treatment in an investigation. Would any of us be able to tell the police to come back later once you're awake? Then, when they do come back, put them off another day?

I've been thinking the same thing. According to a report on ESPN, because this is still being considered a "traffic accident", Tiger does not have to answer any questions. All he needs to provide is license, registration, and proof of insurance.

[sooner333]

Yes, you can not talk to police if you want.

[Senator]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Let me tell you a little story? I once knew a guy who could have been a great golfer, could have gone pro, all he needed was a little time and practice. Decided to go to college instead. Went for four years, did pretty well. At the end of his four years, his last semester he was kicked out... You know what for? He was night putting, just putting at night with the fifteen-year-old daughter of the Dean... You know who that guy was Logan?

Paul Harvey? Good day.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Yes, you can not talk to police if you want.

Let us know how that goes if you're not rich and/or famous.

I'd love to see the reaction of an average cop if you answered the door and told them to come back later when you're not sleeping when they are investingating a domestic assault case.

[Dr. Sak]

No, that guy was Mitch Cumstein...

...my roommate.

He's a good guy.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Let us know how that goes if you're not rich and/or famous.

I'd love to see the reaction of an average cop if you answered the door and told them to come back later when you're not sleeping when they are investingating a domestic assault case.

Other than TMZ rumors, where did you hear this was domestic assault and not just a traffic incident?

Honestly, this doesn't bother me at all as there is no pressing timeline to resolve this case.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey32

I'm about to tell you exactly what happen. Tiger and Elin got into an argument, he's had enough and decides to get in his car and leave. She says, you are not going any where. He keeps on going and she follows with one of his golf clubs. He gets out of the driveway headed down the street and she hits the back of the SUV with the golf club. He turns around and says, WTF and hits the hydrant. That's the story. Because there is no way someone Elin size is going to break the back window of an SUV and pull a man the size of Tiger out of an SUV over 3 rows of seats!

So how does hitting a hydrant cut your phase and require stitches?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by henry296

Other than TMZ rumors, where did you hear this was domestic assault and not just a traffic incident?

Honestly, this doesn't bother me at all as there is no pressing timeline to resolve this case.

TMZ seems to have a rather strong track record when it comes to their reporting (I know it sounds weird but it's true). The story also never added up. He had cuts on his face yet no blood in the car. Clearly not an accident that would require knocking out the back window to rescue him. If it was a traffic incident, there is no reason why Tiger would not talk to the cops.

I'm just saying that if it was you or me in that situation, there is no fucking chance the cops would let us blow off multiple interview requests. I know here that domestic assault is pretty serious and I believe they remove one individual from the home immediately to ensure nothing bad happens. If your wife rips your face apart, shatters your car window with a golf club as you proceed to run over a fire hydrant and hit a tree, I think it's safe to say the cops would be a little more proactive.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I'm just saying that if it was you or me in that situation, there is no fucking chance the cops would let us blow off multiple interview requests. I know here that domestic assault is pretty serious and I believe they remove one individual from the home immediately to ensure nothing bad happens. If your wife rips your face apart, shatters your car window with a golf club as you proceed to run over a fire hydrant and hit a tree, I think it's safe to say the cops would be a little more proactive.

Actually, Florida law states that he doesn't have to talk to the police in a traffic accident. He just have to show license, registration, and proof of insurance. It would be the same thing if we were in the exact same situation.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by duckman

Actually, Florida law states that he doesn't have to talk to the police in a traffic accident. He just have to show license, registration, and proof of insurance. It would be the same thing if we were in the exact same situation.

This wasn't just a traffic accident.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

This wasn't just a traffic accident.

Maybe not, but the cops are treating it as one at this time and until they decide to pursue something more serious Tiger really doesn't have to make time to talk to them.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Maybe not, but the cops are treating it as one at this time and until they decide to pursue something more serious Tiger really doesn't have to make time to talk to them.

I agree. Just saying it would be treated as more if it was you or me.

[Eaglesfan27]

There is an article on TVguide's site that says that Tiger cancelled the 3rd meeting today and does not have any further meetings with police scheduled at this time. He takes full blame for the accident and says that Elin did nothing but help him out of the car.

Tiger Woods Takes Blame for "Embarrassing" Crash, Cancels Third Meeting with Cops - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I agree. Just saying it would be treated as more if it was you or me.

I think police would need some real evidence of that such as video, 911 calls, interviews, charges press by one party, ect.

It appears his alleged mistress Rachel Uchitel flew to L.A. to talk with famed lawyer Gloria Allerd.

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Let us know how that goes if you're not rich and/or famous.

I'd love to see the reaction of an average cop if you answered the door and told them to come back later when you're not sleeping when they are investingating a domestic assault case.

Well, I'm pretty confident I won't ever get to see the reaction of a police officer in that situation. But, police can't make you talk to them. They will be pissed and they may find other means to arrest you, but you still don't have to talk to them or let them in your house.

This isn't about being rich or famous, it's about exercising Constitutional rights.

[JPhillips]

If it was T'Gir Woods he would have already been tazed and thrown in prison.

[RainMaker]

I was under the impression an officer can detain you while investigating a potential crime.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

kcchief, while I agree with most of what you have there, the articles read specifically indicated that the FHP did not release the reported incident for 12 hours, whatever that reason may be.

That doesn't suggest anything nefarious to me either. Remove the name Tiger Woods from this report -- this wouldn't even make the newspaper outside the police blotter, unless it was just news of the weird because someone hit a fire hydrant and a tree. I don't know what the release policy of the FHP is but when I worked in newsrooms and got accident reports two things were true: (1) there was no set time to release accident information; and (2) not all accidents are distributed to the media. Everyone needs to disavow themselves of the notion that just because a celebrity sneezes doesn't make it newsworthy or public information.

I'm still curious as why FHP is involved unless the road where Tiger had his accident is a state road. Then media reports that this happened outside his driveway would be false because Isleworth is a gated community, and I seriously doubt Florida has state highways running through a gated community. I'm assuming FHP was involved because Isleworth is outside the Windmere city limits and it was a holiday, therefore someone had to have jurisdiction. If FHP investigates every accident, Florida is more f-ed up than I thought.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by sooner333

This isn't about being rich or famous, it's about exercising Constitutional rights.

Yes but ... I think the above are correct. If this guy's name was Bill Woods and refused to talk the police and didn't have a lawyer, they would be busting his balls pretty hard right now. But you can't treat Tiger Woods like you would a regular Joe. Money and celebrity has certain protections.

Is it right? Heck no. But that's the way it is.