College Football Week 10 discussion - Page 2

Atocep · 11-06-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Just reading on some Rivals boards, people on an OSU site are hearing the Big 10 has approached Rutgers about joining the Big 10. Take it FWIW but it wouldn't shock me.

The rumor is Mizzou, Rutgers, and Syracuse are targets along with the pipe dream of getting Notre Dame to finally join.

RomaGoth · 11-06-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

The rumor is Mizzou, Rutgers, and Syracuse are targets along with the pipe dream of getting Notre Dame to finally join.

I still don't get why ND won't join the Big Ten. Do they really make that much more money by being an independent?

Atocep · 11-06-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I still don't get why ND won't join the Big Ten. Do they really make that much more money by being an independent?

They have their own TV deal for football.

Yes.

Huckleberry · 11-06-2009, 02:46 PM

They should make a deal with Notre Dame where they get to keep their home game contract with NBC. Then the Big Ten gets Notre Dame for their conference road games, 4 per year after the move to a 12-team league. Notre Dame still gets 4 non-conference games a year to play Southern Cal, Navy, Army, and one other scrub.

Obviously the other teams would hate that deal but Notre Dame already gets special treatment everywhere so what's the biggie?

JPhillips · 11-06-2009, 02:49 PM

Why would ND give up their special BCS status?

dawgfan · 11-06-2009, 02:50 PM

So, Chief Rum and MrBug - how confident are you guys heading into tomorrow's game? Pretty much a make or break your season game for both teams with regards to a bowl game, so motivation ought to be high on both sides.

Huskies have obviously had their issues playing on the road against UCLA, not having won in Pasadena since 1995. But it sounds like Locker is ready to go, and the bye week should provide help both in terms of the team getting healthier as well as giving the staff a chance to self-reflect a bit and ponder strategic changes to their approach.

Swaggs · 11-06-2009, 02:51 PM

Notre Dame also has a sweetheart deal with the BCS where they get a fixed amount per year, whether they make it or not, and they get to keep a bigger chunk than they would get if they shared within a conference when they make it to the BCS.

Atocep · 11-06-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Notre Dame also has a sweetheart deal with the BCS where they get a fixed amount per year, whether they make it or not, and they get to keep a bigger chunk than they would get if they shared within a conference when they make it to the BCS.

Not to mention they're in the Big East for all other sports and they're essentially considered part of the big east for non-bcs bowl purposes.

As long as they have the setup they have, joining a conference just doesn't make sense.

Kodos · 11-06-2009, 02:57 PM

I think Big Ten teams should stop scheduling Notre Dame if they won't join the conference.

Dr. Sak · 11-06-2009, 02:59 PM

Notre Dame isn't going anywhere as long as they can ass rape the Big East...which is quite ironic given that they are Catholic...

Passacaglia · 11-06-2009, 03:15 PM

Why does the Big East let them do that, anyway?

Kodos · 11-06-2009, 03:23 PM

They kinda like it.

Swaggs · 11-06-2009, 03:34 PM

The Big East football schools are handcuffed by the Big East basketball schools, who all want Notre Dame involved in "all sports" (which doesn't include football, by our definition). To be fair, I doubt the Big East would have had its involvement with the Gator and Sun Bowls without Notre Dame, which would have been a crippling blow after the ACC raid and, since Notre Dame has a seat at the BCS table, it helps to have them as an ally.

Notre Dame is an easy target for bitter Big East fans, but realistically, the only problem they cause is that they vote with the basketball schools, which prevents the conference from adding football-only schools to improve scheduling. The Big East is the only BCS conference with less than 10 teams and, with only 8, they only have 3/4 locked-in home games each year. It would be a lot easier for the football teams, for scheduling purposes, to have 4 or 5 certain home games on your schedule when building for the future. In addition, having only 8 teams allows for only 4 votes in the coaches' poll which gives them a big disadvantage to the 12-school conferences who can sneak mediocre conference teams into the bottom of their top 25s each week and then boast about the number of ranked teams they have.

Anyway, the WVU boards (and, I'm sure most of the other BE boards) constantly have a handful of expansion and/or breakaway from the basketball schools threads discussing options, but Notre Dame football really isn't much of a problem for the Big East.

cartman · 11-06-2009, 09:26 PM

Louisiana Tech is making things a bit interesting. They were down 27-7 to Boise State at the half, but just made it 30-21, and recovered the surprise onside kick.

RainMaker · 11-06-2009, 10:22 PM

For those trashing Boise's schedule, looks like they are having trouble finding opponents.

Bleymaier frustrated by scheduling woes | Voices.IdahoStatesman.com

Buccaneer · 11-07-2009, 09:06 AM

My son, being the college football nut that he is, is so excited to watch ESPN College Gameday coming from right up the road.

Passacaglia · 11-07-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

My son, being the college football nut that he is, is so excited to watch ESPN College Gameday coming from right up the road.

If it's right up the road, why not go there?

CU Tiger · 11-07-2009, 09:24 AM

Hey guys...just wanted to post up from the parking lot...about 2 hours in to a tailgate party.

Huge game tonight as far as the ACC is concerned...Clemson-FSU with the winner clearly in the driver seat for ACC Atlantic division.

Here is hoping we make Bobby and Mickey's last trip into Death Valley as miserable as possible.

GO TIGERS!

molson · 11-07-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

For those trashing Boise's schedule, looks like they are having trouble finding opponents.

Bleymaier frustrated by scheduling woes | Voices.IdahoStatesman.com

Someone had a good recap of this in the other thread, but IMO, they're either being disingenuous, or they just suck at schedule making, compared to Utah, TCU, BYU, who all manage to play BCS schools.

digamma · 11-07-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Hey guys...just wanted to post up from the parking lot...about 2 hours in to a tailgate party.

Huge game tonight as far as the ACC is concerned...Clemson-FSU with the winner clearly in the driver seat for ACC Atlantic division.

Here is hoping we make Bobby and Mickey's last trip into Death Valley as miserable as possible.

GO TIGERS!

Good luck to the Tiggers. No more ESSO CLUB for you?

One note on the Atlantic race...FSU would still need some help from Boston College due to their head to head loss to win the division.

digamma · 11-07-2009, 10:18 AM

As for me, I had the misfortune of being volunteered to smoke pork for our departmental tailgate at the UCLA-UW game. It's been on the egg for 11 hours, so that's going to be great and all, but then I have to sit through that dreadful game while the Jackets are trying to hold serve in the ACC Coastal.

MacroGuru · 11-07-2009, 10:42 AM

For me...I am actually concerned about BYU @ Wyoming...it's in Laramie, we haven't played well of late.....time to see if something changes.

Also, there is a big up to do about some "die" hard cougar fans going beyond being fans...egging a coaches car...verbally abusing players wives in the stands....players are saying they would rather play away than at home right now...that definitely concerns me...when home field is supposed to be a major advantage.

Granted 2 blow out losses at home...but come on....we have the chance at a 10 win season again...would make it 4 years in a row for us.

Lathum · 11-07-2009, 11:51 AM

Stanzi walking very gingerly off the field with assistance.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-07-2009, 11:54 AM

13 mins left in the first half, UCF leads Texas 3-0

Wolfpack · 11-07-2009, 11:55 AM

The difference between Miami and Virginia: Virginia punted a rushed punt with Miami selling out trying to block. Miami's returner looked like he was going to get swarmed under by about five Cav players with nary a teammate in sight. Nope. He slipped a tackle, outran the remaining pursuers to the other side of the field, then picked up several hellacious blocks to turn the corner and run up the other sideline for a touchdown. Not quite Devin Hester-quality, but impressive anyway.

Lathum · 11-07-2009, 01:05 PM

Colt McCoy has made some really poor throws today

Lathum · 11-07-2009, 01:35 PM

Jordan Shipley is good...

mauchow · 11-07-2009, 02:00 PM

Down goes Iowa. Finally.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-07-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Down goes Iowa. Finally.

k0ruptr · 11-07-2009, 02:02 PM

YAY thats 1 undefeated going down, maybe Boise can move up one.

RendeR · 11-07-2009, 02:02 PM

Iowa goes down to Northwestern, Stanzi being hurt destroyed the hawkeyes.

RendeR · 11-07-2009, 02:03 PM

Now lets see tOSU take down Penn State and clamp down on this conference.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-07-2009, 02:04 PM

mauchow · 11-07-2009, 02:05 PM

Navy stand a chance? Could go up a touchdown early, they're inside the one yard line.

Why am I watching this game?

RendeR · 11-07-2009, 02:05 PM

Got something against Iowa jon? =)

JonInMiddleGA · 11-07-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Got something against Iowa jon? =)

Not much more than being damned sick & tired of hearing about them.

k0ruptr · 11-07-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Navy stand a chance? Could go up a touchdown early, they're inside the one yard line.

Why am I watching this game?

I fucking hope so, I really don't wanna see ND back there way into a BCS game.

RendeR · 11-07-2009, 02:07 PM

Its funny because even being a Bit 10 fan I haven't really heard that much about them all year.

k0ruptr · 11-07-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Not much more than being damned sick & tired of hearing about them.

I'm with Jon.

Noop · 11-07-2009, 02:09 PM

Iowa lost!!!! They can still win the Big-10 right!?

RendeR · 11-07-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Iowa lost!!!! They can still win the Big-10 right!?

They need a lot of help to make it happen.

Noop · 11-07-2009, 02:13 PM

Sarcasm RendeR sarcasm.

mauchow · 11-07-2009, 02:15 PM

Not a LOT of help is needed.

they need Ohio St to beat Penn St tonight and then Iowa to beat Ohio St when they play. Not a lot of factors.

mauchow · 11-07-2009, 02:21 PM

Go Navy, Go!

RendeR · 11-07-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Not a LOT of help is needed.

they need Ohio St to beat Penn St tonight and then Iowa to beat Ohio St when they play. Not a lot of factors.

They also need to win out and without Stanzi thats probably not going to happen.

Izulde · 11-07-2009, 02:23 PM

Hogs appear to have wrapped up a win over South Carolina. Moves us to 5-4 (2-4). Hopefully we get another couple wins and sneak into a bowl game.

lcjjdnh · 11-07-2009, 02:25 PM

Another embarrassing Michigan game

clemsonfan · 11-07-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Here is hoping we make Bobby and Mickey's last trip into Death Valley as miserable as possible.

GO TIGERS!

Amen!

DeToxRox · 11-07-2009, 02:29 PM

It looks like another bowl less year for Michigan which is disgusting. I said 7-5 before the year, but right now they are too emotionally fragile. They had every chance to win today after allowing a huge swing in the third and didn't do it. That said, in the grand scheme of things next year is the year that has really only mattered but for Rodriguez now it better be a 9 win type team or I think he might be done, especially with a new AD in town to start the 2010 season.

I still firmly believe he can turn it around but now you're looking at 2-3 year job turning into a 3-5 year job and I know the boosters won't allow that to happen.

If nothing else the call to arms around the program will be hilarious.

All I can say is after these past two years, as much as I live for sports, I am so glad I don't let it ruin my day.

RainMaker · 11-07-2009, 02:30 PM

I'd love to see Navy win. I don't think it's a huge upset either, Navy is a pretty good squad.

11-06-2009, 02:46 PM	#54
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	They should make a deal with Notre Dame where they get to keep their home game contract with NBC. Then the Big Ten gets Notre Dame for their conference road games, 4 per year after the move to a 12-team league. Notre Dame still gets 4 non-conference games a year to play Southern Cal, Navy, Army, and one other scrub. Obviously the other teams would hate that deal but Notre Dame already gets special treatment everywhere so what's the biggie? __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

11-06-2009, 02:49 PM	#55
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Why would ND give up their special BCS status? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-06-2009, 02:50 PM	#56
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	So, Chief Rum and MrBug - how confident are you guys heading into tomorrow's game? Pretty much a make or break your season game for both teams with regards to a bowl game, so motivation ought to be high on both sides. Huskies have obviously had their issues playing on the road against UCLA, not having won in Pasadena since 1995. But it sounds like Locker is ready to go, and the bye week should provide help both in terms of the team getting healthier as well as giving the staff a chance to self-reflect a bit and ponder strategic changes to their approach. Last edited by dawgfan : 11-06-2009 at 02:51 PM.

11-06-2009, 02:51 PM	#57
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Notre Dame also has a sweetheart deal with the BCS where they get a fixed amount per year, whether they make it or not, and they get to keep a bigger chunk than they would get if they shared within a conference when they make it to the BCS. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-06-2009, 02:57 PM	#59
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think Big Ten teams should stop scheduling Notre Dame if they won't join the conference. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-06-2009, 02:59 PM	#60
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Notre Dame isn't going anywhere as long as they can ass rape the Big East...which is quite ironic given that they are Catholic...

11-06-2009, 03:15 PM	#61
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Why does the Big East let them do that, anyway?

11-06-2009, 03:23 PM	#62
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	They kinda like it. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 11-06-2009 at 03:23 PM.

11-06-2009, 03:34 PM	#63
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The Big East football schools are handcuffed by the Big East basketball schools, who all want Notre Dame involved in "all sports" (which doesn't include football, by our definition). To be fair, I doubt the Big East would have had its involvement with the Gator and Sun Bowls without Notre Dame, which would have been a crippling blow after the ACC raid and, since Notre Dame has a seat at the BCS table, it helps to have them as an ally. Notre Dame is an easy target for bitter Big East fans, but realistically, the only problem they cause is that they vote with the basketball schools, which prevents the conference from adding football-only schools to improve scheduling. The Big East is the only BCS conference with less than 10 teams and, with only 8, they only have 3/4 locked-in home games each year. It would be a lot easier for the football teams, for scheduling purposes, to have 4 or 5 certain home games on your schedule when building for the future. In addition, having only 8 teams allows for only 4 votes in the coaches' poll which gives them a big disadvantage to the 12-school conferences who can sneak mediocre conference teams into the bottom of their top 25s each week and then boast about the number of ranked teams they have. Anyway, the WVU boards (and, I'm sure most of the other BE boards) constantly have a handful of expansion and/or breakaway from the basketball schools threads discussing options, but Notre Dame football really isn't much of a problem for the Big East. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-06-2009, 09:26 PM	#64
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Louisiana Tech is making things a bit interesting. They were down 27-7 to Boise State at the half, but just made it 30-21, and recovered the surprise onside kick. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 11-06-2009 at 09:27 PM.

11-06-2009, 10:22 PM	#65
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	For those trashing Boise's schedule, looks like they are having trouble finding opponents. Bleymaier frustrated by scheduling woes \| Voices.IdahoStatesman.com

11-07-2009, 09:06 AM	#66
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	My son, being the college football nut that he is, is so excited to watch ESPN College Gameday coming from right up the road.

11-07-2009, 09:24 AM	#68
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Hey guys...just wanted to post up from the parking lot...about 2 hours in to a tailgate party. Huge game tonight as far as the ACC is concerned...Clemson-FSU with the winner clearly in the driver seat for ACC Atlantic division. Here is hoping we make Bobby and Mickey's last trip into Death Valley as miserable as possible. GO TIGERS!

11-07-2009, 10:18 AM	#71
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	As for me, I had the misfortune of being volunteered to smoke pork for our departmental tailgate at the UCLA-UW game. It's been on the egg for 11 hours, so that's going to be great and all, but then I have to sit through that dreadful game while the Jackets are trying to hold serve in the ACC Coastal.

11-07-2009, 10:42 AM	#72
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	For me...I am actually concerned about BYU @ Wyoming...it's in Laramie, we haven't played well of late.....time to see if something changes. Also, there is a big up to do about some "die" hard cougar fans going beyond being fans...egging a coaches car...verbally abusing players wives in the stands....players are saying they would rather play away than at home right now...that definitely concerns me...when home field is supposed to be a major advantage. Granted 2 blow out losses at home...but come on....we have the chance at a 10 win season again...would make it 4 years in a row for us. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

11-07-2009, 11:51 AM	#73
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Stanzi walking very gingerly off the field with assistance.

11-07-2009, 11:54 AM	#74
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	13 mins left in the first half, UCF leads Texas 3-0 __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-07-2009, 11:55 AM	#75
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	The difference between Miami and Virginia: Virginia punted a rushed punt with Miami selling out trying to block. Miami's returner looked like he was going to get swarmed under by about five Cav players with nary a teammate in sight. Nope. He slipped a tackle, outran the remaining pursuers to the other side of the field, then picked up several hellacious blocks to turn the corner and run up the other sideline for a touchdown. Not quite Devin Hester-quality, but impressive anyway.

11-07-2009, 01:05 PM	#76
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Colt McCoy has made some really poor throws today

11-07-2009, 01:35 PM	#77
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Jordan Shipley is good...

11-07-2009, 02:00 PM	#78
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Down goes Iowa. Finally.

11-07-2009, 02:02 PM	#80
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	YAY thats 1 undefeated going down, maybe Boise can move up one. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

11-07-2009, 02:02 PM	#81
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Iowa goes down to Northwestern, Stanzi being hurt destroyed the hawkeyes. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-07-2009, 02:03 PM	#82
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Now lets see tOSU take down Penn State and clamp down on this conference. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-07-2009, 02:04 PM	#83
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	9-1 __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-07-2009, 02:05 PM	#84
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Navy stand a chance? Could go up a touchdown early, they're inside the one yard line. Why am I watching this game?

11-07-2009, 02:05 PM	#85
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Got something against Iowa jon? =) __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-07-2009, 02:07 PM	#88
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Its funny because even being a Bit 10 fan I haven't really heard that much about them all year. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-07-2009, 02:09 PM	#90
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Iowa lost!!!! They can still win the Big-10 right!? __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

11-07-2009, 02:13 PM	#92
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Sarcasm RendeR sarcasm. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

11-07-2009, 02:15 PM	#93
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Not a LOT of help is needed. they need Ohio St to beat Penn St tonight and then Iowa to beat Ohio St when they play. Not a lot of factors.

11-07-2009, 02:21 PM	#94
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Go Navy, Go! Last edited by mauchow : 11-07-2009 at 02:21 PM.

11-07-2009, 02:23 PM	#96
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11-07-2009, 02:25 PM	#97
lcjjdnh College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NJ	Another embarrassing Michigan game

11-07-2009, 02:29 PM	#99
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	It looks like another bowl less year for Michigan which is disgusting. I said 7-5 before the year, but right now they are too emotionally fragile. They had every chance to win today after allowing a huge swing in the third and didn't do it. That said, in the grand scheme of things next year is the year that has really only mattered but for Rodriguez now it better be a 9 win type team or I think he might be done, especially with a new AD in town to start the 2010 season. I still firmly believe he can turn it around but now you're looking at 2-3 year job turning into a 3-5 year job and I know the boosters won't allow that to happen. If nothing else the call to arms around the program will be hilarious. All I can say is after these past two years, as much as I live for sports, I am so glad I don't let it ruin my day.