NFL Week 6 - Page 2

Swaggs · 10-18-2009, 01:32 PM

Ward seemed to hold it for a little while, but bobbled it after he was out of bounds. They said he had to control it through the end of the play, which makes sense. I could see them giving it to him for holding/controlling until he was out of bounds, but it seems as if the rule requires more.

Really no explanation for the first down. Makes no sense.

Alan T · 10-18-2009, 01:32 PM

Giants stop the Saints on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yardline. In the replay it looked to me like the ball crossed the plane though and should have been a TD, but was pretty close.

Tigercat · 10-18-2009, 01:33 PM

Damn, I think with lasers that ball broke the plane, but any replay on it will be inconclusive with all those players in the way.

RainMaker · 10-18-2009, 01:33 PM

Was it a bad angle or something for the camera? That's all I can think of.

Masked · 10-18-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Giants stop the Saints on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yardline. In the replay it looked to me like the ball crossed the plane though and should have been a TD, but was pretty close.

Unfortunately, I have not seen an angle that clearly shows it crossed

Alan T · 10-18-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked

Unfortunately, I have not seen an angle that clearly shows it crossed

Yeah, every single replay has it close, but after the last series of replays I might have been wrong there. They might have held him there. Big play for the Giants to keep that score out.

Crapshoot · 10-18-2009, 01:35 PM

Just watching halftime highlights - what happened on that punt return? It looks like the Panthers player blindsided the Bucs returner on a fair catch before the ball got there; WTF?

spleen1015 · 10-18-2009, 01:35 PM

I don't see him getting across, but I do see a momentary facemask right before he runs into folks.

spleen1015 · 10-18-2009, 01:35 PM

Wow. Get Thomas a TD now damn it!!

Alan T · 10-18-2009, 01:36 PM

haha.. and then the fumble.. good grief.. I hate the Giants.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-18-2009, 01:36 PM

And Todd Collins is in at QB for the Redskins, probably for no reason other than Jim Zorn just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

Swaggs · 10-18-2009, 01:36 PM

Who knows...

They did the same thing in the VPI-GT game yesterday, only the ref rolled the ball forward until it touched the end of the chain. Didn't hear an explanation for that one, either.

DaddyTorgo · 10-18-2009, 01:36 PM

woohoo saints!

bhlloy · 10-18-2009, 01:37 PM

Weak goal line running by Thomas. If he had gone low he'd have been in easily. Instead he let himself get stood up and pushed backwards. I think he probably was in but there was no camera angle that showed it.

Oh well, I guess they get to do it again...

Pumpy Tudors · 10-18-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Just watching halftime highlights - what happened on that punt return? It looks like the Panthers player blindsided the Bucs returner on a fair catch before the ball got there; WTF?

That's exactly what happened (well, I don't think there was a fair catch call, but that wouldn't matter). Dude just went right after the punt returner for no reason.

Masked · 10-18-2009, 01:37 PM

Eli fumbles, Saints ball on the Giants 7.

henry296 · 10-18-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Just watching halftime highlights - what happened on that punt return? It looks like the Panthers player blindsided the Bucs returner on a fair catch before the ball got there; WTF?

That was absolutely horrible. I hope he is suspended for a long-time because it was completely unecessary. He left the ground and nailed him just under the chin.

henry296 · 10-18-2009, 01:38 PM

My only thought on the Steelers call was the chain was on an angle and we then got it straight up and down it was right at the stick. I saw a very simliar call last night in one of the games, I think South Carolina-Alabama or GT-VT and they rolled the ball and then called 1st down.

Alan T · 10-18-2009, 01:39 PM

Hmm.. I don't think the ball was out until he hit the ground there. I think it is Saints ball on the 7 yard line. I think that was a good call on the field.

Tigercat · 10-18-2009, 01:40 PM

Shanle was lucky he didn't fumble before he hit the ground, that ball was a bit loose beforehand. Aikman is being obnoxious for the Giants today, having a loose handle on the ball isn't the same as the ball actually coming out.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-18-2009, 01:41 PM

Reggie with the score

spleen1015 · 10-18-2009, 01:42 PM

Not Reggie Bush! Pierre Thomas, fuckers!

Tigercat · 10-18-2009, 01:43 PM

Will we get close to 100 points in this game today, I wonder.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-18-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Will we get close to 100 points in this game today, I wonder.

The Saints might hit 100 by themselves.

Alan T · 10-18-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

The Saints might hit 100 by themselves.

I think they will slow up and only score 50-60 themselves

Pumpy Tudors · 10-18-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I think they will slow up and only score 50-60 themselves

Eli Manning likes to complete passes to Darren Sharper. Sharper might hit 30 points by himself if the Giants have to throw nonstop.

But then there's the Brandon Jacobs factor, because he will clearly score 100 points on his own.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-18-2009, 01:49 PM

Sooooo, is this a first down?

Honolulu_Blue · 10-18-2009, 01:52 PM

Wow. Culpepper goes down and Stanton comes in. The first play he throws a pass that almost gets Bryant Johnson killed.

gstelmack · 10-18-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Just watching halftime highlights - what happened on that punt return? It looks like the Panthers player blindsided the Bucs returner on a fair catch before the ball got there; WTF?

Here's the part of that I don't understand, while we're talking about horrible officiating. In the scrum that follows, ref hats and flags are flying all over the place, at least 3 more thrown during the scrum. Yet not a word when the ref explains the play, just the 15 yards and ejected player for the initial hit. What happened from the scrum?

And yeah, Wesley (the guy that leveled the returner) will be much lighter in the paycheck and lucky if he's not suspended for a few games. He basically incited the riot after that by having his "what? me? what'd I do?" reaction.

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 02:25 PM

Ping: Lathum

Giants still best team in NFL?

bhlloy · 10-18-2009, 02:26 PM

Giants defense, meet playaction. Playaction, Giants defense.

Seriously I can't recall such a highly rated unit having such a fall from grace in a long time. I know the DB's aren't great but the pass rush hasn't touched Brees all game, and this is a Saints offensive line without their best player.

spleen1015 · 10-18-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Sooooo, is this a first down?

I don't think it has to make it to the yard stick. I think it just has to make it to the end of the chain. I saw something like this a long time ago and that was the explanation that I heard then.

bhlloy · 10-18-2009, 02:28 PM

DOLA - we can see today why Eli is so much better than Brees. HE HAS A SUPERBOWL RING PEOPLE

aran · 10-18-2009, 02:28 PM

Giants have not been the best team in the NFL at all this year.

They've got the worst coverage linebackers I've seen. That alone accounts for the majority of the points scored by opponents. You can complete 12-yard passes over the middle all day.

Front Office Midget · 10-18-2009, 02:29 PM

26-0. Why is Charles Woodson back on punt returns?

Alan T · 10-18-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Front Office Midget

26-0. Why is Charles Woodson back on punt returns?

To hopefully get me more fantasy points for my fantasy football team I am guessing!

kingfc22 · 10-18-2009, 02:30 PM

Can we put Oakland, St. Louis, Kansas City and Washington in a battle royale. These teams are awful.

Abe Sargent · 10-18-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Ping: Lathum

Giants still best team in NFL?

It's a little mean to ping a guy who can't respond. Besides, Coughlin can fix all problems ever

Crapshoot · 10-18-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Can we put Oakland, St. Louis, Kansas City and Washington in a battle royale. These teams are awful.

You left out Cleveland?

Swaggs · 10-18-2009, 02:33 PM

How close is Brees to being a HOFer after this season?

Crapshoot · 10-18-2009, 02:33 PM

Thx on the punt return - I was wondering if I missed something, as to what the hell prompted that.

kingfc22 · 10-18-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

You left out Cleveland?

Ahh yes. Add them in as well.

Greyroofoo · 10-18-2009, 02:33 PM

I didn't realize the Saints were playing the Raiders this week.

kingfc22 · 10-18-2009, 02:36 PM

Is there a defensive line that jumps offside more than the Vikings? They have done it numerous times today and the only other game I've watched them against the Niners they did the same thing.

Radii · 10-18-2009, 02:38 PM

delhomme with his 9th and 10th INT's on the season today, the last one returned for a touchdown to allow tampa to tie the game.

Delhomme is 8/16 for 61 yards, 1 TD/2 INT on the day... outstanding.

DeToxRox · 10-18-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Is there a defensive line that jumps offside more than the Vikings? They have done it numerous times today and the only other game I've watched them against the Niners they did the same thing.

They constantly are trying to jump snap counts. That D is so good though they can afford the penalties.

Abe Sargent · 10-18-2009, 02:41 PM

The Detroit GB game has the worst most painful commentation I ever heard, ouch.

Scoobz0202 · 10-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Is there a defensive line that jumps offside more than the Vikings? They have done it numerous times today and the only other game I've watched them against the Niners they did the same thing.

Last week the Cowboys did it four times in one drive.

EDIT: This was last week obviously.

kingfc22 · 10-18-2009, 02:42 PM

Nice pass by Gerrard. Just gave the Rams a TD.

kingfc22 · 10-18-2009, 02:44 PM

I smell the end of the line for some NFL head coaches this week.

10-18-2009, 01:32 PM	#52
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Giants stop the Saints on a 4th and 1 at the 1 yardline. In the replay it looked to me like the ball crossed the plane though and should have been a TD, but was pretty close. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

10-18-2009, 01:35 PM	#58
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I don't see him getting across, but I do see a momentary facemask right before he runs into folks. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

10-18-2009, 01:35 PM	#59
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Wow. Get Thomas a TD now damn it!! __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

10-18-2009, 01:36 PM	#60
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	haha.. and then the fumble.. good grief.. I hate the Giants. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

10-18-2009, 01:36 PM	#61
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10-18-2009, 01:33 PM	#53
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Damn, I think with lasers that ball broke the plane, but any replay on it will be inconclusive with all those players in the way.

10-18-2009, 01:33 PM	#54
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Was it a bad angle or something for the camera? That's all I can think of.

10-18-2009, 01:35 PM	#57
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Just watching halftime highlights - what happened on that punt return? It looks like the Panthers player blindsided the Bucs returner on a fair catch before the ball got there; WTF?

10-18-2009, 01:36 PM	#62
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Who knows... They did the same thing in the VPI-GT game yesterday, only the ref rolled the ball forward until it touched the end of the chain. Didn't hear an explanation for that one, either. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-18-2009, 01:36 PM	#63
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10-18-2009, 01:37 PM	#64
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Weak goal line running by Thomas. If he had gone low he'd have been in easily. Instead he let himself get stood up and pushed backwards. I think he probably was in but there was no camera angle that showed it. Oh well, I guess they get to do it again...

10-18-2009, 01:37 PM	#66
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	Eli fumbles, Saints ball on the Giants 7.

10-18-2009, 01:38 PM	#68
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	My only thought on the Steelers call was the chain was on an angle and we then got it straight up and down it was right at the stick. I saw a very simliar call last night in one of the games, I think South Carolina-Alabama or GT-VT and they rolled the ball and then called 1st down. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

10-18-2009, 01:39 PM	#69
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Hmm.. I don't think the ball was out until he hit the ground there. I think it is Saints ball on the 7 yard line. I think that was a good call on the field. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

10-18-2009, 01:40 PM	#70
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Shanle was lucky he didn't fumble before he hit the ground, that ball was a bit loose beforehand. Aikman is being obnoxious for the Giants today, having a loose handle on the ball isn't the same as the ball actually coming out.

10-18-2009, 01:41 PM	#71
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10-18-2009, 01:42 PM	#72
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Not Reggie Bush! Pierre Thomas, fuckers! __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

10-18-2009, 01:43 PM	#73
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Will we get close to 100 points in this game today, I wonder.

10-18-2009, 01:52 PM	#78
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10-18-2009, 02:25 PM	#80
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Ping: Lathum Giants still best team in NFL?

10-18-2009, 02:26 PM	#81
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Giants defense, meet playaction. Playaction, Giants defense. Seriously I can't recall such a highly rated unit having such a fall from grace in a long time. I know the DB's aren't great but the pass rush hasn't touched Brees all game, and this is a Saints offensive line without their best player.

10-18-2009, 02:28 PM	#83
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	DOLA - we can see today why Eli is so much better than Brees. HE HAS A SUPERBOWL RING PEOPLE

10-18-2009, 02:28 PM	#84
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	Giants have not been the best team in the NFL at all this year. They've got the worst coverage linebackers I've seen. That alone accounts for the majority of the points scored by opponents. You can complete 12-yard passes over the middle all day.

10-18-2009, 02:29 PM	#85
Front Office Midget High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manitowoc, Wisconsin	26-0. Why is Charles Woodson back on punt returns?

10-18-2009, 02:30 PM	#87
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10-18-2009, 02:33 PM	#90
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10-18-2009, 02:33 PM	#93
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10-18-2009, 02:36 PM	#94
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10-18-2009, 02:38 PM	#95
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	delhomme with his 9th and 10th INT's on the season today, the last one returned for a touchdown to allow tampa to tie the game. Delhomme is 8/16 for 61 yards, 1 TD/2 INT on the day... outstanding.

10-18-2009, 02:41 PM	#97
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10-18-2009, 02:42 PM	#99
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10-18-2009, 02:44 PM	#100
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