Did they remove the Edit button?

[Crapshoot]

This is taking pettiness to a whole new level - want his job or not, it doesn't excuse the behavior.

[jbmagic]

my status is still the same.

No edit button and no PM.

Skydog when am i going to have access to it again?

thanks

[hukarez]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

my status is still the same.

No edit button and no PM.

Skydog when am i going to have access to it again?

thanks

More than likely, you're behind markprior22 in that queue from the looks of things.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by hukarez

More than likely, you're behind markprior22 in that queue from the looks of things.

actually he may even be further back then that.. i think hornsmaniac will be up for review for a return to the board before that gets fixxed

[Raiders Army]

This is somewhat like making a mountain out of a molehill. His edit button is gone. It's not like he's prevented from posting. It's not like he's censored in any way.

What would be petty is if Skydog gave the power of editing jbmagic's posts to someone else...now, that would be petty.

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

What would be petty is if Skydog gave the power of editing jbmagic's posts to someone else...now, that would be petty.

No you've got it a bit wrong. What he's done to this point is petty. If he did what you suggest... that would just be funny

[Cringer]

I had a tree fall in my yard a couple days ago. Big tree, it was dead so it was going to happen at some point I guess. I think I know who made it happen though.

[gottimd]

No, this is Petty

[Neuqua]

It's easy to pick on jb.

I wonder what kind of bitchfest there'd be if it were one of the other regulars here.

[Subby]

For the love of god, don't be Petty...

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Neuqua

It's easy to pick on jb.

I wonder what kind of bitchfest there'd be if it were one of the other regulars here.

Yup. I don't always agree with jb's policy of posting every question that comes to mind, but this is SD being an asshat, and him not being called on it.

[gottimd]

Talk about being a Dick and Petty

[Subby]

PETTY BOOKA REPRESENT YO

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Yup. I don't always agree with jb's policy of posting every question that comes to mind, but this is SD being an asshat, and him not being called on it.

Well at first I didn't want to respond to this thread, because jbmagic's questions don't really bother me, but I do understand why his edit button is gone. There are even two recent incidents where I was wondering if jb really like negative attention.

Example #1:
Over a week ago, I started a thread asking people about their current RSS feeds. jbmagic seemed to be interested and I answered him on what I know about it. The next day jbmagic writes a thread asking about the best RSS readers. This didn't bother me because there are so many out there and it seemed that he was curious to find out which one to use. Since no one wrote in the thread, I chimed in and gave him a number of the one that I knew about. Well at the end of the thread he then asks:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

thanks so much.

what rss feeds do you have so far?

Huh? I had wrote a long post about my feeds the day prior and he even posted in that thread. In fact, he knew nothing about RSS feeds until I told him in that thread. So I was left scratching my head.


Example #2:
The following day, jbmagic writes another thread asking about everyone's favorite firefox extensions. The questioning never bothers me, but what occurs in the thread does. I give him a list of my favorite and for some reason jbmagic give me advice on something he knew nothing about. These are the 3 posts that actually occur in this order in the thread:

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

AdBlock - block those nasty ads.
StumbleUpon - nice extension used to discover new sites.

Web Development:
Colorzilla - used to identify a particular color scheme that I may stumble across while browsing the web.
Web Developer - A great extension with a number of tools to edit CSS, resizing for different windows, HTML, Feed and CSS validation, etc.
IE View - open a page in Internet Explorer
Aardvark - good for cleaning up a page before printing and also to identify elements in a web page
FlashGot - used to save things using an external download manager
GreaseMonkey - used to edit and test out some DHTML

Originally Posted by yabanci

use filterset.g updater.

Originally Posted by jbmagic

get AdBlock Filerset.G Updater

highly recommend filter update for adblocks.


and if you love rss feeds get Sash Extension for firefox. a great rss reader

What? Why are you giving me advice on something you just learned about in the post before. In fact, he just answered his question about adblock and then recommends it to me in the very next post.



That is why I think his edit button was taken away. If someone were to call him on that, he would get upset and delete all traces of evidence. And I find it amazing that jbmagic coud start a thead asking about "Which FOFC member is going to buy Maximum football?" knowing darn well that he is trying to point his attention to those people on the board that defend the game and yet no one can ever point at jbmagic for anything.

I don't hate the guy. To me, everyone has their unique quirk. HellAtlantic is known for his crude comments, SkyDog is known as the dictator, FrogMan is known as the sensitive father, flereimsaho is known for his stick figures, Pumpy is known for his pics and jbmagic is known for his "100 questions a day quota", etc.

Sure, his edit button disappering may not be a good thing. However he tries to rile things up more times than people will admit and if confronted will try everything in his power to make the incident go away. And that power was a simple edit button.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Well at first I didn't want to respond to this thread, because jbmagic's questions don't really bother me, but I do understand why his edit button is gone. There are even two recent incidents where I was wondering if jb really like negative attention.

Example #1:
Over a week ago, I started a thread asking people about their current RSS feeds. jbmagic seemed to be interested and I answered him on what I know about it. The next day jbmagic writes a thread asking about the best RSS readers. This didn't bother me because there are so many out there and it seemed that he was curious to find out which one to use. Since no one wrote in the thread, I chimed in and gave him a number of the one that I knew about. Well at the end of the thread he then asks:



Huh? I had wrote a long post about my feeds the day prior and he even posted in that thread. In fact, he knew nothing about RSS feeds until I told him in that thread. So I was left scratching my head.


Example #2:
The following day, jbmagic writes another thread asking about everyone's favorite firefox extensions. The questioning never bothers me, but what occurs in the thread does. I give him a list of my favorite and for some reason jbmagic give me advice on something he knew nothing about. These are the 3 posts that actually occur in this order in the thread:







What? Why are you giving me advice on something you just learned about in the post before. In fact, he just answered his question about adblock and then recommends it to me in the very next post.



That is why I think his edit button was taken away. If someone were to call him on that, he would get upset and delete all traces of evidence. And I find it amazing that jbmagic coud start a thead asking about "Which FOFC member is going to buy Maximum football?" knowing darn well that he is trying to point his attention to those people on the board that defend the game and yet no one can ever point at jbmagic for anything.

I don't hate the guy. To me, everyone has their unique quirk. HellAtlantic is known for his crude comments, SkyDog is known as the dictator, FrogMan is known as the sensitive father, flereimsaho is known for his stick figures, Pumpy is known for his pics and jbmagic is known for his "100 questions a day quota", etc.

Sure, his edit button disappering may not be a good thing. However he tries to rile things up more times than people will admit and if confronted will try everything in his power to make the incident go away. And that power was a simple edit button.

I simply wasn't up to searching back through threads to look up situation after situation to explain all of that, and thus went with the simpler, shorter answer, but you hit the nail squarely on the head. Ant's examples could be repeated time and time again with other situations if someone took the time to look them up. His post-crap-then-delete-or-edit-it thing has happened over and over and over and over again. Many of you haven't seen the stuff he's deleted, because he does it quickly.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

I don't hate the guy. To me, everyone has their unique quirk. HellAtlantic is known for his crude comments, SkyDog is known as the dictator, FrogMan is known as the sensitive father, flereimsaho is known for his stick figures, Pumpy is known for his pics and jbmagic is known for his "100 questions a day quota", etc.

while I'm flattered by that description, it's not going too well with the tough karate guy image I'm tyrying to build... just saying...



FM

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

while I'm flattered by that description, it's not going too well with the tough karate guy image I'm tyrying to build... just saying...



FM

Sorry...my mistake. I meant you are the sensitive ass-kicker!

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Sorry...my mistake. I meant you are the sensitive ass-kicker!

LOL!!!

Much better.

FM

[spleen1015]

If there is anyone in this world who needs an edit button it is jbmagic.

[Antmeister]

By the way here are the threads I am referring too, if anyone thinks I am exaggerating.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46847
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46892
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46893

[sovereignstar]

I still don't think there is a negative vibe in jb's soul.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I still don't think there is a negative vibe in jb's soul.

Hey I used to think the same way until I realized that he deletes posts/threads when he gets negative feedback. Never used to notice it before until I became more of a regular poster.

[duckman]

Obviously, people have missed that part about Ben taking away JB's ability to access and send PM's or the ability to access his control panel. Or how about the fact that he put him on invisiban just a couple of weeks ago because he "annoyed" Ben.

Lets cut through the bullshit here. SkyDog doesn't like JB's personalities and behaviors, so he has decided to try run him off, but doesn't want to come across like an asshat (too late!).

Also, there are several who don't want to say anything because Ben has had a quick trigger finger in the past in regards to discontent. I can understand that. It's a great online community. I've been here nearly six years myself, but this nonsense needs to stop.

It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that JB is only trying to fit in and learn the culture on here. He doesn't have a great grasp of the English language and I think that bothers a lot of people. He asks questions. He repeats what he reads or hears. It sounds childish, but that's what people who is learning a whole new culture does. He just wants to fit. Instead of making fun of him or doing shit like this, take some time to teach him that maybe he needs to change his approach.

[illinifan999]

I wonder if there's a button that takes away someone's ability to start new threads.....

[miked]

There should be a global "who cares" button. I don't really care either way, but so what if he can't edit or PM? He wants to add something, he can dola. Anybody want to get in touch, ping (that's what most do around here anyway). I just don't see the grave injustice. I found myself getting irritated with his constant childish posts too. Everyone's bugging out on the fact that SD is a youth minister (or whatever) and how this behavior detracts from his image/persona whatever. I don't know what limiting the rather annoying posting abilities of somebody has to do with guiding today's youth.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by duckman

Obviously, people have missed that part about Ben taking away JB's ability to access and send PM's or the ability to access his control panel.

Ummmm....let me check on that. I thought I put him in the "no edit/no delete" user group.

[dervack]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Ummmm....let me check on that. I thought I put him in the "no edit/no delete" user group.

Wait, there's a whole group of them?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Ummmm....let me check on that. I thought I put him in the "no edit/no delete" user group.

Ah. I see what happened with regard to PM's. There's a setting for number of PM's that can be stored. It was set to zero for that user group, which effectively disabled PM's.

I'm still checking, but I have no idea why he wouldn't be able to access his control panel at this point.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by dervack

Wait, there's a whole group of them?

If you consider 2 people a group. I created that usergroup quite some time ago (as in probably over a year ago...)

[Ben E Lou]

ACtually, I'm fairly sure that someone is mistaken about the CP aspect. The "Can Edit Own Profile" button was set to "YES" for the "No Editing/Deleting" group.

What's funny is that I had uploading attachments enabled for that user group--a big no-no per Gamespy. Glad I examined it and disabled that.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by duckman

It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that JB is only trying to fit in and learn the culture on here. He doesn't have a great grasp of the English language and I think that bothers a lot of people. He asks questions. He repeats what he reads or hears. It sounds childish, but that's what people who is learning a whole new culture does. He just wants to fit. Instead of making fun of him or doing shit like this, take some time to teach him that maybe he needs to change his approach.

Do you really think it takes 30 years to learn a whole new culture?

[duckman]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Do you really think it takes 30 years to learn a whole new culture?

Has he been here in the U.S. for 30 years? My general impression (language, behavior) is that he has only been here for 5-10 years.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by duckman

Has he been here in the U.S. for 30 years? My general impression (language, behavior) is that he has only been here for 5-10 years.

He says he was raised here...and he claims to be 37 or 38, I think.

[dervack]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

If you consider 2 people a group. I created that usergroup quite some time ago (as in probably over a year ago...)

Where's all the outrage for the other person?

[jeff061]

I don't know about 30, but I still can't figure you out after a couple .

[duckman]

Originally Posted by duckman

Has he been here in the U.S. for 30 years? My general impression (language, behavior) is that he has only been here for 5-10 years.

Just to add on. It's not really unusual for some immigrants to struggle with different cultures even after living in that culture for several years.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by duckman

Has he been here in the U.S. for 30 years? My general impression (language, behavior) is that he has only been here for 5-10 years.

Yeah as I seem to recall, he was raised in the United States for a majority of his life and I think he lives in California. I think. But yeah, he does give the impression of someone who just moved here.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by dervack

Where's all the outrage for the other person?

For some bizarre reason, jbmagic seems to be in some "protected" class around here. Things that others would get nailed for here, he gets a free pass, and defended when anyone calls him out. I've never understood it.

[jeff061]

Obviously you see something nearly no one else does. Pretty simple explanation.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Yeah as I seem to recall, he was raised in the United States for a majority of his life and I think he lives in California. I think. But yeah, he does give the impression of someone who just moved here.

Interesting.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

For some bizarre reason, jbmagic seems to be in some "protected" class around here. Things that others would get nailed for here, he gets a free pass, and defended when anyone calls him out. I've never understood it.

it's one thing for him to get called out by others in the community. it's another for a mod to carry on an immature vendetta against him, and pull lame stunts like you've been engaging in.

we expect that kind of juvenile crap from morons like HA. we don't expect it from you. or, rather, we shouldn't expect it from you.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Obviously you see something nearly no one else does. Pretty simple explanation.

Except, as we have seen in this thread, other people do see something so it's not like it's as cut and dry as you're trying to make it sound.

SI

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

it's one thing for him to get called out by others in the community. it's another for a mod to carry on an immature vendetta against him, and pull lame stunts like you've been engaging in.

we expect that kind of juvenile crap from morons like HA. we don't expect it from you. or, rather, we shouldn't expect it from you.

Lame stunts? Vendetta? If there was any of that, I'd have simply banned him a long time ago. Quite frankly, there's mounting evidence of a very legitimate reason to ban him (a reason that even Shorty might not argue against) but I'm trying to give him (and another person) the benefit of the doubt until I have the facts with 100% certainty, because I really don't want to believe what appears to be the case.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Lame stunts? Vendetta? If there was any of that, I'd have simply banned him a long time ago. Quite frankly, there's mounting evidence of a very legitimate reason to ban him (a reason that even Shorty might not argue against) but I'm trying to give him (and another person) the benefit of the doubt until I have the facts with 100% certainty, because I really don't want to believe what appears to be the case.

Well, that was cryptic.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Except, as we have seen in this thread, other people do see something so it's not like it's as cut and dry as you're trying to make it sound.

SI

Being naive and a bit of a wuss in reguards to negativity is worth being dicked with by a mod? Less so this edit thing, now that the truth is out, more so the ghost banning and constant backhanded slaps.

right then...

Skydog has hinted more than a couple times that he thinks he's a dupe. Either pull the trigger or let him be.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Well, that was cryptic.

It shouldn't be for much longer. I've procrastinated on getting to the bottom of the situation, so a big reason for me posting that was to force myself to either have to retract, or spill the beans.

[Eaglesfan27]

I hope you spill the beans.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Being naive and a bit of a wuss in reguards to negativity is worth being dicked with by a mod? Less so this edit thing, now that the truth is out, more so the ghost banning and constant backhanded slaps.

Not just a mod...

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Lame stunts? Vendetta? If there was any of that, I'd have simply banned him a long time ago. Quite frankly, there's mounting evidence of a very legitimate reason to ban him (a reason that even Shorty might not argue against) but I'm trying to give him (and another person) the benefit of the doubt until I have the facts with 100% certainty, because I really don't want to believe what appears to be the case.

What evidence?

what have i done that so bad, for you to think of banning me.

if you trying to make an excuse to ban me, so you look like you got a reason to do so, is very sad.

i am sorry that i ask a lot of questions. There is others here that do worse than me here, but you always give them a free pass. the other thing i can think of was a mistake to post old news the other day.

as soon i do something, you like to give me a hard time.

Thank you for fixing the pm box, but taking away the edit button was kinda harsh.

now your thinking of banning me, and i swear to god i never done something here that was so bad to get ban.

i am a good person.

there others that post way more than me in the last few months, but you never give them a hard time and no ones says anything to them about it. others make a new post, when there was another thread post already made. but you dont give them a hard time.

if i have ask too many questions, post old news, and repeat then i am truly sorry and it wont happen again.

[Raiders Army]

I just don't understand why not having an edit button is a big deal.