Werewolf LVII: Cathedral (GAME OVER!)

[path12]

Quick takes on people still in the game:

Trust
Butcher: Anxiety
Page: oliegirl

Not Demon
Bishop: Neon Chaos

Neutral, decent feeling about
Carpenter: PurdueBrad
Shepard: st.cronin

Waiting to see if role is as claimed
Lord Leige: Alan T

Suspicious of:
Knight: Lathum -- possible Gabriel/Lucifer?
Friar: saldana -- possible Gabriel/Lucifer?
Goldsmith: Mr. Wednesday -- quieter than normal, usually has good analysis but nothing this game.
Blacksmith: Pass -- helpful villager, but just not quite right.
Mason: Schmidty -- I think he's likely to be a demon.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by path12

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that saldana and Lathum are Gabriel and Lucifer in some order. I would think that those two roles would be actively campaigning to get rid of the other, and they seem to be the two that have gone at each other from early on.

It might also explain an attack on Lathum, as Lucifer and Gabriel are specifically stated to have powers known only to themselves. No other roles but the cultist specifically say they have hidden powers.

I thought that most of us had hidden powers.

[Passacaglia]

not quite right? what am i wrong about?

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

not quite right? what am i wrong about?

I was pertaining as to how the entirity of the situation doth played out.

[Lathum]

so do we know why Path trusts anxiety?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I was pertaining as to how the entirity of the situation doth played out.

that's weird, since you weren't even the one who said it

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I have no solid grasp of who, as of yet. But why? Given that the silence of the novice lent him to have been targeted by the Lord Liege, it just did not feel quite right.

Ah, my apologies. I thought you were pertaining to this.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Lathum

so do we know why Path trusts anxiety?

I don't think we do.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Ah, my apologies. I thought you were pertaining to this.

It's weird that both of you used 'quite right' in your phrasing.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

so do we know why Path trusts anxiety?

Nope.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

It's weird that both of you used 'quite right' in your phrasing.

Well, it wouldn't feel quite right if I didn't, now would it?

[Passacaglia]

Just when things are getting good, I'm heading out.

[Lathum]

ok, well at least Oliegirl was up front with us

[path12]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

not quite right? what am i wrong about?

It's hard to put my finger on......I'm going to go back through your posts when I get a chance to try and pinpoint it, but as the game goes on the more you're pinging my radar.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Well, it wouldn't feel quite right if I didn't, now would it?

quite right you are, sir

[path12]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I thought that most of us had hidden powers.

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This game has been inspired by Coffee Warlord’s famous Yak game, as well as a game I saw somewhere that involved the idea of building something. Not sure whose that was. I will also say that I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who are of religious belief and am using religion in more of the cultural folklore sense than any literal interpretation.

Introduction
The year is 1350 and the town of St. Saldana has been prosperous for many years. It is now time to take that prosperity and use it to honor God, who has made it all possible by building a cathedral.. This would lack any noteworthiness were it not for the fact that the Devil was in a particular pique one day about all of the church construction, only days before the cathedral was to be completed. Hoping to win favor with the boss, Lucifer has led a crack team of demons to stop this cathedral. Not wanting to see years of piousness go to waste, St. Gabriel has led his own SWAT team of angels to make sure that the years of hard work do not go to waste. And then on top of all this you have the Bishop (the Bishop!) in town to consecrate the church and you have a quite a few hectic days ahead.

Sides and Victory Conditions

Villagers : Win a normal victory by either eradicating the village of demons or by completing the construction of the cathedral. Win a major victory if they complete both.

Angels: Win a major victory if the church is completed. Win a minor victory if the devils are eradicated from the village but the church is not completed.

Demons: Win a normal victory if they prevent the construction of the cathedral by achieving a 1-1 ratio with the villagers, a minor victory if the angels are eradicated, and a major victory if they accomplish both.

Bishop: The Bishop is a revered person in the community, but no one is quite sure whose side he’s on since his rise to the position of power was not completely through sacrosanct means.

Note: The game will end either if there are no Demons left or at the end of the following day after all work on the Cathedral is complete (so if all work is done by the end of Day 3, the Cathedral must still have no work left at the end of Day 4).

Cycles
Day Cycle – During the day cycle players can do two things: vote and work on the cathedral. A player may do 2 of one thing, or 1 of each.

A vote should be at the end of a post, bolded, and in the color orange, so it looks like this:

Votes not properly formatted may be missed.

Once a player works on the Cathedral they may not change where they are working.

Once a player votes they may unvote and choose a different player to vote for but they may not work on the Cathederal.

A player may do two actions in one post. Each action should be listed separately. If voting for a player twice, vote on separate lines.
Day Cycles begin approximately 8 AM Eastern and last until 10 PM Eastern. Players may choose to PM the moderator with an advance action if they’re unavailable during the Day Cycle. The player with the most votes will be lynched, and removed from the game.

Ties: In the event of two players having an equal amount of votes at the end of the day, the player whose average vote has been on the longest (determined by post #) will be lynched. In the event of this being equal, the player with the longest held vote will be lynched.

Night Cycle – Lasts from 10 PM Eastern to 7 AM Eastern. During this time anyone who has a night action may submit it.

Each night the Demons will have the option of either killing a player or having two demons sabotage the Cathedral and attempt to damage it. They may sabotage the same place twice or two separate places. The Demons cannot do the same night action more than two days in a row.

The order to the Night Cycle actions are not publicly known due to the hidden nature of powers in the game.

Roles

Villagers
All players will have a public role. Not all roles have a special power or ability. Angels/devils may get to keep the power of their public role. There is the standard Duke, Bodyguard, Seer. There will also be a cultist who appears to the seer to be a villager, and counts as a villager for ration purposes, but wins with the Demons. He has other abilities.

Demons
This is a list of possible Demon roles. Only Lucifer is guaranteed to be in the game. Demons are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

Lucifer – The head Devil. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from St. Gabriel, but equally he knows the identity of St. Gabriel. He will, however, appear as a villager if scanned by the seer. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who St. Gabriel is posing as, even to the other Demons. He may freely communicate with St. Gabriel (cc’ing the GM). Lucifer also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Azazel – Brutal wolf. If lynched he will be able to kill another player. If killed at night he will kill the player attacking him before he dies.

Beelzebub – Any night attempt at sabotage is guaranteed to succeed and will cause double damage to that area. If blocked by Michah, he will only cause normal damage.

Leviathan – Once per game he may make a night kill which cannot be blocked. If the bodyguard is present, the bodyguard will learn the identity of the Leviathan.

Henchman – No special powers.

Angels
This is a list of possible Angels roles. Only St. Gabriel is guaranteed to be in the game. Angels are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

St. Gabriel – The head Angel. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from Lucifer, but equally he knows the identity of Lucifer. He will always appear as a villager if scanned. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who Lucifer is posing as, even to the other Angels. He may freely communicate with Lucifer (cc’ing the GM). Gabriel also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Elijah – Once per game may designate a player (non-Angel) who cannot be killed or lynched for the next 3 cycles (beginning with that cycle).

Michah – May designate an area to be safe from wolf sabotage each night.

Rhamiel – May scan a player each night to attempt to learn the details of their powers.

Uriel – Every other day may do twice as much work as normal on the Cathedral.

The way I read this is that only angels or demons are going to have any extra/hidden powers. The rest of us have one or none based on our public role.

[st.cronin]

I am Gabriel. We need to lynch a demon today.


VOTE ANXIETY

I will say with near certainty that Alan T and Lathum are villagers. I also know that path12 was lying on day 1 - but, I don't know why. He may be a villager.

[Lathum]

interesting.

It doesn't say anywhere that Gabriel can't vote for Lucifer. Would that be construded as "outing" him?

[Neon_Chaos]

Well. How do they say it?

Boom doth go the dynamite.

[st.cronin]

I am constrained by our Creator from identifying Lucifer by name.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I am Gabriel. We need to lynch a demon today.


VOTE ANXIETY

I will say with near certainty that Alan T and Lathum are villagers. I also know that path12 was lying on day 1 - but, I don't know why. He may be a villager.

Just like you to swing first when there was no need to. I cannot say what st. cronin is or is not, but I can tell you that I am Gabriel. Not him.

[st.cronin]

Dola, but Lathum is correct - nowhere in the game rules does it say I can't vote for him.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I am constrained by our Creator from identifying Lucifer by name.

so are you allowed to vote for Lucifer?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Just like you to swing first when there was no need to. I cannot say what st. cronin is or is not, but I can tell you that I am Gabriel. Not him.

saw this coming from a mile away

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

so are you allowed to vote for Lucifer?

I can vote for Lucifer on Day Four freely, not until then. I assumed he had the same constraint, although he never mentioned it in our e-mails.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Just like you to swing first when there was no need to. I cannot say what st. cronin is or is not, but I can tell you that I am Gabriel. Not him.

This was a poor play on your part. It would have been more believable for the village coming from path12, or perhaps Schmidty?

[Abe Sargent]

And he's disappeared just as quickly.

[Neon_Chaos]

Lord... I pray to thee... giveth me a sign...

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

This was a poor play on your part. It would have been more believable for the village coming from path12, or perhaps Schmidty?

Hey, how can you post here whe your name didn;t show up a the bottom. That's weird.

At any rate, your attempts to out others will fail. Nice try though. Oh, by the way, did you and the Bishoip make the allience you were talking about in our pms?

I can out you too you know.

[Abe Sargent]

So st. cronin, why did you even bother attacking me? I figured you were going to go after villages and get the count down, so why come after me at all? I think was a poor play.

[Abe Sargent]

Anyway, I assume tht those here will hi ve questins for me and st cronin to determien teh veracity of our claims. I await them now.

[st.cronin]

Neon, who is the Monk?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Neon, who is the Monk?

are you referring to Chief Rum? he was the iniatie, riht? Or wait, hold on....nivice. Wasn;t he theh monk?

[path12]

Anxiety and I are brothers. We have the ability to communicate with each other. I assumed that was his hidden role and that he must be good.

Obviously I misjudged that one way or the other.

[st.cronin]

One thing you might ask yourselves: Since Gabrile is forbidden to name Lucifer, wouldn't he have some interest in leaving a track record of being interested in that player?

See day 1.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

At any rate, your attempts to out others will fail. Nice try though. Oh, by the way, did you and the Bishoip make the allience you were talking about in our pms?

why would he share any information/ strategies with you?

[Abe Sargent]

Any questions from some of the utr peops that are here like PurdueBrad? I'll be around for another 15-20 minites at least. LIke the wise man says, "Ni! And the truth shall be revealed." or something like that. I don;t know, I don;t see him inteh thread.

[st.cronin]

I'll be back in a couple of hours.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why would he share any information/ strategies with you?

He told me he was thinkinf of killing you on teh first night. TO be fair, i shared misinformation and true information bottle dtogether with him, I sexpect he did the same back.

[Neon_Chaos]

The sign has been shown to me. I have been mistaken.

I was blinded by someone who I assumed to be St.Gabriel. It appears I have been decieved.

You, sir, are not Gabriel.

Vote st.cronin

Vote st.cronin

[Abe Sargent]

I also know that Ballzebub exists as one fo the demons. On teh night the cu;ltist died, I was informed that he wuld send Baalzebub against the artwork in case iit was damaged. I orderd Michah to defend it, and it was still damadged, only Ballzebubcan do that.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

The sign has been shown to me. I have been mistaken.

I was blinded by someone who I assumed to be St.Gabriel. It appears I have been decieved.

You, sir, are not Gabriel.

Vote st.cronin

Vote st.cronin

how do you know this?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

He told me he was thinkinf of killing you on teh first night. TO be fair, i shared misinformation and true information bottle dtogether with him, I sexpect he did the same back.

I;m not sure I buy this.

Cronin is always suspiscous of me as a wold and knows many other people are as well. If he were a demon I would think he would want to keep me around.

[Abe Sargent]

I'm still trying to sniff out the other demons. Let's see who joins st. cronin.

[Lathum]

UNVOTE SALDANA

UNVOTE SALDANA

[Neon_Chaos]

It may come as a shock to all of you. I can only reveal my information until the word has been truly spoken.

"Ni!"

I am the Bishop. I have the ability to send prayers to Gabriel at night. Lucifer invades my dreams, as well. I have asked for nothing more but the sacred word to be spoken to show who they truly are... and it seems that Lucifer has been reading into my dreams... but apparently, he cannot read all of them.

I thought that he invoked the word when he called me 'Ni'on_Chaos... but apparently, I was mistaken.

Bring forth the wrath of the demons... I am ready.

I have been bound by our lord to not speak of this until the word has been spoken true. "Ni!"

I am to lead man to victory true... not a minor one. The cathedral must be built, AND the demons must be vanquished. That is my objective.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I;m not sure I buy this.

Cronin is always suspiscous of me as a wold and knows many other people are as well. If he were a demon I would think he would want to keep me around.

You and I know basic wolf strategy is to mix it up from game to game. In this game, if I were the wolf, I would have killed Chief Rum the first night, because normally my kill woul dbe saldana, a little utr at the time but a good player. Thus, I woul dhave switched it up by taking otu the guy who attacked me that day.

This is a basic tactic when people are playing wolves with thos ewho know them.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

It may come as a shock to all of you. I can only reveal my information until the word has been truly spoken.

"Ni!"

I am the Bishop. I have the ability to send prayers to Gabriel at night. Lucifer invades my dreams, as well. I have asked for nothing more but the sacred word to be spoken to show who they truly are... and it seems that Lucifer has been reading into my dreams... but apparently, he cannot read all of them.

I thought that he invoked the word when he called me 'Ni'on_Chaos... but apparently, I was mistaken.

Bring forth the wrath of the demons... I am ready.

I have been bound by our lord to not speak of this until the word has been spoken true. "Ni!"

I am to lead man to victory true... not a minor one. The cathedral must be built, AND the demons must be vanquished. That is my objective.

so how do you \know it's St. Cronin

[oliegirl]

Gah! I leave for a couple hours and the game explodes - Lucifers and Gabriels everywhere!!!!

At this point I believe I'll be voting with NC, however I would like some additional insight as to how he knows that Cronin is not Gabriel.

I'm leaving at 7:15 - 7:30 and won't be back until after deadline...I will vote prior to leaving but will NOT be available to move my vote if need be.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

It may come as a shock to all of you. I can only reveal my information until the word has been truly spoken.

"Ni!"

Do you know if there was a chance both Gabriel and Lucifer could have known the word?