LXXVIII: Politicus Lupus (GAME OVER!! SEE POST #2593 FOR RESULTS)

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

That only holds if you assume a linear relationship between the two. Which is precisely the opposite of the point cronin is making.

Linear or not, my point of fact is that when you consider the roles we currently have, seer, SeerSpeaker and BG, the only one that equates at all to the Cunning wolf role (as written in the rider) is the seer, so we don;t HAVE a 3-1 advantage there, we have a 1-1 balance. They have the advantage because that role can't BE detected.

We MIGHt catch one of them, while they're pretty well guarenteed a free roaming member of Congress who can without retributoin gain favor and power.

It doesn;t matter how many new roles we throw out there, the Courts, IMO, aren;t going to let us carbon copy bills, so we're limited on just what possible roles we can create. We do not need 12 total Bills to HOPE to offset the few powerful roles they are after. Our only real defense against them having those roles is not ALLOWING them to be created to begin with.

[chesapeake]

Can't stay up any longer. Good night all.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

WTF???

What the hell does that mean?

Means you have 1 year to get re-elected bud, or yer out. Damn hippie.

[PurdueBrad]

Are we going to be getting a concession speech anytime soon from Packerfanatic? Wow.

[Chief Rum]

FOURTEENTH DISTRICT

path12 won a tight race for re-election. path12 supporters said they felt they got an unexpectedly healthy boost in the polls.

"The fine people of the Fourteenth District have chosen the worthy candidate PackerFanatic to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 54%
illinifan999--46%

[Chief Rum]

THIRTEENTH DISTRICT

EagleFan won his bid for re-election handily.

"The fine people of the Thirteenth District have chosen the worthy candidate PackerFanatic to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 52%
illinifan999--48%

[RendeR]

I'm not disagreeing with the premise you make SC, what I disagree with is the theory that we can atually come up with a dozen roles that really DO much of anything. We don;t need that many, especially at the risk of giving away power that we do not have to.

Never give your opponent any hope of success. We have guarenteed additions and a way to guarentee NOTHING for the wolves. I really cannot understand arguing against that.

[Chief Rum]

TWELFTH DISTRICT

PackerFanatic's handpicked successor won re-election handily.

NOTE: PF will return to this seat if he does not become President.

"The fine people of the Twelfth District have chosen the worthy candidate PackerFanatic to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 61%
illinifan999--39%

[Chief Rum]

And wrapping up the GOP...

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I'm not disagreeing with the premise you make SC, what I disagree with is the theory that we can atually come up with a dozen roles that really DO much of anything. We don;t need that many, especially at the risk of giving away power that we do not have to.

Never give your opponent any hope of success. We have guarenteed additions and a way to guarentee NOTHING for the wolves. I really cannot understand arguing against that.

They don't have to DO anything. We just have to be able to assign them to non-wolves.

[st.cronin]

If illinifan pulls in 72% of his district I will laugh.

[Chief Rum]

SIXTH DISTRICT

Mrs. Schmidty was re-elected in a landslide victory.

"The fine people of the Sixth District have chosen the worthy candidate illinifan999 to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 27%
illinifan999--73%

[mccollins]

He'll get 74%

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

They don't have to DO anything. We just have to be able to assign them to non-wolves.

AHA! Thank you! In this case you are correct, since in 4 years we can clear 10 players the game will end rather quickly. I'm thinking CR might need to rebalance the game prior to its next go round.

[st.cronin]

Well bugger I thought I was special.

[RendeR]

People gotta explain yourselves better, so that We Simple straightforward thikning politicians can understand your scheming ways.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by RendeR

AHA! Thank you! In this case you are correct, since in 4 years we can clear 10 players the game will end rather quickly. I'm thinking CR might need to rebalance the game prior to its next go round.

How it works half the time in these games. That's why there's such a thing as the fake reveal.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well bugger I thought I was special.

See what toughts did for you...

[Chief Rum]

SEVENTH DISTRICT

illinifan999's handpicked successor won re-election handily.

NOTE: illinifan will return to this seat if he does not become President.

"The fine people of the Seventh District have chosen the worthy candidate illinifan999 to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 28%
illinifan999--72%

[mccollins]

hahahah - 72!

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by mccollins

hahahah - 72!

That wasn't for illinisfan though, it was for his successor

[Chief Rum]

EIGHTH DISTRICT

Render was re-elected in a landslide victory.

"The fine people of the Eighth District have chosen the worthy candidate illinifan999 to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 29%
illinifan999--71%

[Chief Rum]

NINTH DISTRICT

jeheinz72 won re-election to his seat.

"The fine people of the Ninth District have chosen the worthy candidate illinifan999 to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 30%
illinifan999--70%

[RendeR]

The good people of the 8th District understand that I am a Man OF the people, and FOR the people. We throw our firm suport behind our next President: Illinifan999!!!

[mccollins]

If Tim Russert were here (RIP...), he would've had a whiteboard out a long time ago proclaiming "10th 10th 10th - The 10th district is all that matters!"

[Passacaglia]

Sorry to see you go Lathum -- it was nice liaisoning with you.

[RendeR]

You'll be lucky if the Dems still own the 10th District after tonight

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sorry to see you go Lathum -- it was nice liaisoning with you.

I'll bet it was :P

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I'll bet it was :P

Surely you're not suggesting that our fine Collegue Mr. passacaglia was 'In bed' with Mr. Lathum?

[Chief Rum]

ELEVENTH DISTRICT

Chubby, former Speaker of the House, was shockingly upset in his bid for re-election.

"Something stinks," said one Chubby supporter. "Chubbs was consistently polling well above just about any other Dem leading up to election day. This makes no sense."

A token Dem representative will serve in the seat instead.

"The fine people of the Eleventh District have chosen the worthy candidate PackerFanatic, we mean illinifan999, umm, well, I guess PackerFanatic to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 50.1%
illinifan999--49.9%

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sorry to see you go Lathum -- it was nice liaisoning with you.

yeh it was.

Obviously some greasy republican sabatouged me but I'll be back, then lookout, paybacks are a bitch

[Chief Rum]

TENTH DISTRICT (and final district)

henry296 lost an uphill battle for re-election after being down in the polls all year. A token centrist representative has taken over the seat.

"The fine people of the Tenth District have chosen the worthy candidate illinifan999 to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 49%
illinifan999--51%

[Lathum]

WTF is going on?

How are we losing so many elections?

[Chief Rum]

ILLINIFAN999 HAS BEEN ELECTED THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

illinifan999 defeated PackerFanatic in 10 of the 18 districts, and won 56% of the popular vote.

illinifan will continue to run the Seventh District by proxy, even as he takes the reins of the country.

[RendeR]

Umm, token Centrist WHAT candidate is taking henry' place?


Congratulations Illinifan999, the new president!!

[path12]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

VOTE COUNT AS OF POST 777.

If there are any corrections, please let me know asap...

LYNCH VOTE
Claphamsa (8) – EagleFan-D (627), PackerFanatic-D (641), Path12-D (643), Chubby-D (718), henry296-D (729), Mccollins-D (735), Chesapeake-D (752), Lathum-D (755)
Henry296 (8)– Mrs. Schmidty-R (728), jeheinz72-R (708), Render-R (713), Illinifan999-R (714), Tyrith-R (719), PurdueBrad-R (725), st.cronin-R (767), Claphamsa-R (774)
Kwhit (1) - Passacaglia-R (745)
Mrs. Schmidty (1) – Kwhit-D (676)

ENDORSEMENT
Illinifan999 – Tyrith-R (573), jeheinz72-R (575), Claphamsa-R (576), st.cronin-R (578), PurdueBrad-R (590), Mrs. Schmidty-R (597), Passacaglia-R (635), Render-R (726)
PackerFanatic – Mccollins-D (580), KWhit-D (581), Chesapeake-D (582), Path12-D (583), Henry296-D (605), Lathum-D (607), EagleFan-D (627), Chubby-D (744)

WOLF SECURITY BILL REDUX
FAIL (3)– Claphamsa-R (601), Tyrith-R (612), Passacaglia-R (660)
PASS (13) – Kwit-D (599), PackerFanatic-D (600), Mccollins-D (603), Henry296-D (605), Lathum-D (607), PurdueBrad-R (608), jeheinz72-R (613), Illinifan999-R (637), Chesapeake-D (640), Chubby-D (670), EagleFan-D (690), Render-R (713), Mrs. Schmidty-R (728)
Not Voted – st.cronin-D, Path12-D

WOLF OBSERVATION ACT
FAIL (3) – Kwhit-D (662), Lathum-D (678), Path12-D (705)
PASS (12) – Tyrith-R (659), Passacaglia-R (660), st.cronin-R (661), Henry296-D (664), PackerFanatic-D (665), Claphamsa-R (668), Chubby-D (670), jeheinz72-R (673), Render-R (713), IlliniFan999-R (714), PurdueBrad-R (724), Mrs. Schmidty--R (728)
Not Voted – Mccollins-D, Chesapeake-D, EagleFan-D

NATIONAL SEER COMMUNICATION ACT
FAIL (4) – Tyrith-R (689), Path12-D (705), PurdueBrad-R (724), Mrs. Schmidty-R (728)
PASS (12) – Chubby-D (681), Kwhit-D (682), PackerFanatic-D (684), Chesapeake-D (686), Lathum-D (688), EagleFan-D (690), jeheinz72-R (708), Render-R (713), Illinifan999-R (714), Henry296-D (715), Mccollins-D (737), Passacaglia-R (743)
Not Voted – st.cronin-R, Claphamsa-R

Just catching up, but for the record I did vote yes on the redux bill in post 618.

[RendeR]

I'm rather shocked at Chubby's failure to retain his seat, though I'm thinking that veto might have been a real big negative for him. Something to consider mr. president.

[Chief Rum]

The following districts have token representation, and their constituents are subject to the whims of those active political advocates who are closest to their way of thinking.

TOKEN REP DISTRICTS

1st District (R)
10th District (D)
11th District (D)
17th District (D)

The above districts are now under the control of the following players. Each of these politicians now have two votes on bills and on floor votes. The Wolf Vote is unaffected, with every active Congressman holding one vote.

1st District now controlled by Passacaglia (R) of the 2nd District.
10th District now controlled by jeheinz72 (R) of the 9th District.
11th District now controlled by PackerFanatic (D) of the 12th District.
17th District now controlled by KWhit (D) of the 17th District.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by path12

Just catching up, but for the record I did vote yes on the redux bill in post 618.

Cool, I will edit it.

[RendeR]

Big day the the GOP, great work gentlemen. its about time the good people of this country started getting quality leadership instead of bleeding heart bunny-loving-treehugger-ism.

[RendeR]

And with that dart at the heart of our counter-part...I will bid you all Adieu until tomorrow.

[Chief Rum]

A handful more PMs coming, but that's it folks. Daily instructions coming at the night time deadline.

illinifan999, you have three bills to consider.

NIGHT TWO HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN. Night actions due by 7 A.M. EST/4 A.M. PDT.

[Lathum]

so can those of us who lost our election still vote for wolves?

[PurdueBrad]

clicked wrong forum, immediately clicked out, saw nothing. Sorry.

[Lathum]

I now have confimation it was Clap who sbatouged me, I guess thats how you republicans are gonna roll.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

so can those of us who lost our election still vote for wolves?

Initially, it was my intention to say no, no voting for any voted out Congressmen, as part of the price for losing your spot in Congress.

But I am going back on that. The three ousted Congressmen (Lathum, Chubby and henry296) can all still vote in Wolf Votes, still be lynched, still be night-killed and still hold WW roles established by Congress.

It just didn't make sense to me to have you guys sit around for two days waiting to be re-elected.

You are still banned, however, from voting on bills on the floor, holding any political office (Leader, Liaison, Speaker) or voting on any other matters on the floor. You are still free to participate in your party threads and are still not allowed to enter the other party's thread.

This, again, pertains to Lathum, Chubby and henry296.

[Chief Rum]

Political pundits continue to question why the Democrat Party took such a hit in this year's elections. Some media exit polls may have the answer, though.

A high percentage of disenchanted voters said they were bothered by two things in particular: former Speaker Chubby's decision to veto the Wolf Security Act in Year One, and then the partisan censuring of non-Wolf Representative claphamsa.

"We need to protect our brightest," opined one such voter, who said she was still bitter over the decision to not pass the bodyguard law last year. Just elected President illinifan999 has a new Wolf Security Bill on his desk, although it still contains the controversial wolf cunning clause that led to last year's veto.

"I know claphamsa was no saint, but he was clearly not a Wolf member," said another voter. "I don't know why the Democrats couldn't see it. Every single member of that party voted him out, and not one of the Republican did. That's why I voted for illinifan999."

There were also plenty of reports that the Republicans brought out the big guns, spending extravagantly in some key districts, and in particular, laying it on thick on Democrat Presidential candidate PackerFanatic.

"He's a good man and the right man for the job," said one PackerFanatic supporter. "It's a real shame they had to get dirty when they couldn't win fair."

The voters next chance to make a statement comes in two years, but for now, the Republican Party controls both Congress and the Presidency.

[Tyrith]

Well..I hope this day winds up being a good day. The guys with multiple districts all seem like good seer scans to me.

[Tyrith]

BTW, winning fair is for sissies.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well bugger I thought I was special.