The OFFICIAL 2008-09 NHL Playoffs Thread - Page 19

samifan24 · 05-14-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

Wouldn't that apply to almost any sport?

Not really. I think the sheer speed of the game and, as others have mentioned, the size of the puck and sometimes the complexity of the rules (icing and delayed offsides) make the game more difficult for potential fans to pick up on TV.

Logan · 05-14-2009, 12:36 PM

There's also the frustration factor when someone sees, for example, the point men cycling the puck around on a PP (like the "SHOOT! SHOOT!" jackass fans we get at games sometimes).

lordscarlet · 05-14-2009, 12:41 PM

Ultimately, most of us didn't grow up with the game. I'm sure stuff that happens during baseball, football and basketball stump new viewers. I haven't watched enough hockey to say whether the announcers could do a better job or not, but perhaps that is part of it?

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 06:19 PM

Early 5 on 3 for Anaheim

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DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 06:22 PM

Anahiem only had one shot on that 5 on 3. Crazy.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 06:22 PM

Wings do a good job of killing it. Hell, during the 5 on 3 the Ducks barely got off a shot- they just sat there and played with it.

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DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 06:26 PM

I appreciate a Wings PP as much as the next guy but what a terrible call on Getzlaf. These refs need to put it away. They did yesterday. Do it today.

gstelmack · 05-14-2009, 06:32 PM

So, two game 7s on tonight, one of which involves East Coast teams, the other a MidWest and a West Coast team, and they put them on at the same time? And folks were wondering why the NHL has ratings problems.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 06:39 PM

To be fair, both cities are in the eastern time zone. But, yeah, why they didn't go 6/8 with these games is beyond me

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DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 06:43 PM

Well to be fair, Detroit is going to get the prime time start regardless because they get the biggest ratings outside of maybe Pittsburgh. Plus this has been the better series.

But the problem is Carolina/Boston would have to start at 6 since you can't have a West coast team playing at 3 Pacific. And you can't have a Friday game because that's the worst TV night. Plus Saturday is probably out of the question because of the delay between games and the ECF is scheduled to start Monday.

It's just poor long term planning but there isn't much they could've done. I wish there were though as I'd like to see both games.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 07:05 PM

how about the fact that i have a black screen on nesn right now - wtf is up with that?

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 07:09 PM

So Darren Helm is really, really fast.

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 07:10 PM

Dola, Cleary said Helm might be the fastest guy in the league. I was calling bullshit until that goal. That was just insane.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 07:21 PM

Bruins 1
Canes 0

7:42 in

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 07:35 PM

Big goal for Anaheim there by Selanne.

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 07:37 PM

And Detroit answers. What a play by Datsyuk.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 07:38 PM

Wow- brutal goal by Detroit. Anaheim thought they were back in it and were pressuring. But then the Wings just get that 2 goal lead back.

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DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 07:39 PM

LOL Hiller is a terrible actor. It was for sure a penalty on Hudler but he acted like he was re-enacting the JFK assassination with how he went down.

DataKing · 05-14-2009, 07:40 PM

I know the Wings are up 2 and I shouldn't bitch, but HOW does Pronger tackling Hossa behind the net not deserve a penalty?

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 07:42 PM

3-2. Gonna be a war.

DataKing · 05-14-2009, 07:45 PM

Words cannot express my hatred for Chris Pronger.

Router Help · 05-14-2009, 07:58 PM

That is all.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-14-2009, 08:00 PM

Damn, I know we're all getting older but Don Johnson has really gone downhill.

DataKing · 05-14-2009, 08:01 PM

I feel better now.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 08:06 PM

Holy crap. That's two straight times with just downright stupid plays by the Ducks D and they're lucky it's still 3-2. Crossing right in front of the goal followed by a crappy turnover.

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DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 08:15 PM

Tough break there for Detroit.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 08:16 PM

Wow! Now this is what a game 7 should look like

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DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 08:18 PM

Detroit needs to do something on the PP or they're cooked. That was their big advantage this series but Anaheim's had the better PP.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 08:20 PM

Is the diving flip of the puck across the blue line legal?

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Router Help · 05-14-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Is the diving flip of the puck across the blue line legal?

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Yes. Moving a broken stick into the play to block a pass or a shot is not legal however.

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 08:32 PM

Helluva an effort there by Cleary to score that goal.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 08:34 PM

Oh man. Hiller knocked it in

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Chief Rum · 05-14-2009, 08:34 PM

I don't even know what to make of this. All I know is, nothing good could have come from it.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-14-2009, 08:36 PM

Nice of Hiller to reinforce my perception of the Ducks as whiny little bitches.
I was almost starting to feel funny about sitting here pulling so hard for Detroit but not any more.

Now if I could see Getzlaf get KTFO'ed this portion of the night would be just about complete.

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 08:39 PM

Well this has been what playoff hockey is all about, minus the chinsy calls.

sterlingice · 05-14-2009, 08:40 PM

Now that's what a game 7 is supposed to look like. I'd have preferred Anaheim won. But I can't wait for Hawks-Wings

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Chief Rum · 05-14-2009, 08:40 PM

Good series, Wings. You earned it. Glad we could make you really fight for it.

There were just too many ways this thing could have gone different (both today and in other games). Lots to think about it over the summer for the Ducks.

I hope I haven't just watched the last games by Scotty and Teemu.

Chief Rum · 05-14-2009, 08:42 PM

BTW, all credit to Cleary for his goal, but it bugs the hell out of me that we lose this one on a goal like that. Not that there was a doubt about the goal, but that it was just so damn ugly. I would have much preferred a more skillfully done goal, like Lidstrom's Game One winner.

gstelmack · 05-14-2009, 08:42 PM

2-1 Canes at the second intermission after 3 key penalty kills, including one complete BS call. Canes playing well, especially on defense.

I missed most of the first period. They said something about a Brind'Amour goal getting waved off? Anyone know what happened? Heaven forbid FoxSports would just casually drop the mention and then not show a single replay of it during the first intermission...

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Good series, Wings. You earned it. Glad we could make you really fight for it.

There were just too many ways this thing could have gone different (both today and in other games). Lots to think about it over the summer for the Ducks.

I hope I haven't just watched the last games by Scotty and Teemu.

For sure an amazing series. One of the best I've seen in a long time. Anaheim is going to be a force if they can find a solid second line. That is truly what held them back is they just couldn't do much with that second line and you cannot break up the Getz line because that might be the best line in hockey. Their cycle game is second to none.

Anyway, Anaheim was just nails. A shame it had to end that way for Hiller though.

Chief Rum · 05-14-2009, 08:44 PM

And go Hawks!

A couple months ago, when it looked like the Ducks would snooze their way to a playoff-less offseason, I was wondering what team I would root for. In the end, I had settled on the Hawks. So I'm glad my "backup choice" is still around.

DeToxRox · 05-14-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

BTW, all credit to Cleary for his goal, but it bugs the hell out of me that we lose this one on a goal like that. Not that there was a doubt about the goal, but that it was just so damn ugly. I would have much preferred a more skillfully done goal, like Lidstrom's Game One winner.

Yeah but you had that feeling that this game was going to end that way. I do agree though, I would've loved for a snipe or a dangle to be the game winner, but in a way that Cleary goal encompassed the entire series. Just guys fighting like hell for space.

DataKing · 05-14-2009, 08:45 PM

Mad props to the Ducks for one heck of a series. The TV guys have been right about one thing from the beginning...no matter who you ask, the Ducks are not a #8 seed. A really good combination of skilled young guys and wiley veterans, they just couldn't match the depth of the Wings over seven games. What is hopefully a march to another Stanley Cup may seem like a walk in the park compared to what Anaheim just put them through.

Chief Rum · 05-14-2009, 08:45 PM

True. This wasn't a series for pretty goals.

If you want that frilly shit, go watch Pittsburgh.

Draft Dodger · 05-14-2009, 08:48 PM

Winter Classic Rematch!

Chief Rum · 05-14-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DataKing

Mad props to the Ducks for one heck of a series. The TV guys have been right about one thing from the beginning...no matter who you ask, the Ducks are not a #8 seed. A really good combination of skilled young guys and wiley veterans, they just couldn't match the depth of the Wings over seven games. What is hopefully a march to another Stanley Cup may seem like a walk in the park compared to what Anaheim just put them through.

From us Ducks fans, thanks to the gracious responses from you Wingers.

This season is such a mind****. There are two ways to look at it. We are either:

A) thrilled we turned a lackluster season around down the stretch, beat the #1 seed and took the #2 seed to seven; or

B) disgusted that a team with as much talent as the Ducks have took the first five months of the season off before getting serious, thus forcing a Top 3-4 talent squad into a #8 seed, and putting us on too early collision courses with the two best teams in the West (and maybe in the NHL period).

Draft Dodger · 05-14-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

2-1 Canes at the second intermission after 3 key penalty kills, including one complete BS call. Canes playing well, especially on defense.

I missed most of the first period. They said something about a Brind'Amour goal getting waved off? Anyone know what happened? Heaven forbid FoxSports would just casually drop the mention and then not show a single replay of it during the first intermission...

I don't remember a goal getting waved off in the first. He wasn't the one originally credited on the goal I think, so maybe that's it.

B's are in trouble - they're too inconsistent

Honolulu_Blue · 05-14-2009, 09:00 PM

Wow. First time I've been able to relax in two days...

Great series. Really a classic. I was barely able to breath during most of these games.

The Ducks are a great opponent. A very tough team from the goalie out. Their top guys Getzlaf and Perry gave it all they had. They completely out played the Wings' top guys of Zetterberg, Datsyuk and Hossa. (Did Holmstrom even play in this series?)

It's good to finally beat this team. The Wings owe them for 2003 and 2007. Also, as much as I respect the Ducks as a team, they have a number of players whose skills I respect but who I totally despise.

It's good to see the good guys stil win, even in the Aughts.

bhlloy · 05-14-2009, 09:06 PM

Good series Wings fans. In the end the Wings just skated a little bit better than the Ducks did (Helm was absolutely immense the whole series long) and deserved to win the series.

CR - I'm firmly in the a) camp although I can't help thinking what might have been now. When you think how many young players the Ducks have, I'm really excited for the future. I see this group winning another cup within 3 years. It's been a fun postseason and great experience.

DataKing · 05-14-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Also, as much as I respect the Ducks as a team, they have a number of players whose skills I respect but who I totally despise.

*cough*Pronger*cough*

05-14-2009, 12:41 PM	#903
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05-14-2009, 06:19 PM	#904
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Early 5 on 3 for Anaheim SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 06:22 PM	#906
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wings do a good job of killing it. Hell, during the 5 on 3 the Ducks barely got off a shot- they just sat there and played with it. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 05-14-2009 at 06:22 PM.

05-14-2009, 06:32 PM	#908
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	So, two game 7s on tonight, one of which involves East Coast teams, the other a MidWest and a West Coast team, and they put them on at the same time? And folks were wondering why the NHL has ratings problems. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

05-14-2009, 06:39 PM	#909
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	To be fair, both cities are in the eastern time zone. But, yeah, why they didn't go 6/8 with these games is beyond me SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 05-14-2009 at 06:40 PM.

05-14-2009, 12:36 PM	#902
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	There's also the frustration factor when someone sees, for example, the point men cycling the puck around on a PP (like the "SHOOT! SHOOT!" jackass fans we get at games sometimes).

05-14-2009, 06:22 PM	#905
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Anahiem only had one shot on that 5 on 3. Crazy.

05-14-2009, 06:26 PM	#907
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I appreciate a Wings PP as much as the next guy but what a terrible call on Getzlaf. These refs need to put it away. They did yesterday. Do it today.

05-14-2009, 06:43 PM	#910
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Well to be fair, Detroit is going to get the prime time start regardless because they get the biggest ratings outside of maybe Pittsburgh. Plus this has been the better series. But the problem is Carolina/Boston would have to start at 6 since you can't have a West coast team playing at 3 Pacific. And you can't have a Friday game because that's the worst TV night. Plus Saturday is probably out of the question because of the delay between games and the ECF is scheduled to start Monday. It's just poor long term planning but there isn't much they could've done. I wish there were though as I'd like to see both games.

05-14-2009, 07:05 PM	#911
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	how about the fact that i have a black screen on nesn right now - wtf is up with that? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 07:09 PM	#912
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	So Darren Helm is really, really fast.

05-14-2009, 07:10 PM	#913
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Dola, Cleary said Helm might be the fastest guy in the league. I was calling bullshit until that goal. That was just insane.

05-14-2009, 07:21 PM	#914
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05-14-2009, 07:35 PM	#915
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Big goal for Anaheim there by Selanne.

05-14-2009, 07:37 PM	#916
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	And Detroit answers. What a play by Datsyuk.

05-14-2009, 07:38 PM	#917
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow- brutal goal by Detroit. Anaheim thought they were back in it and were pressuring. But then the Wings just get that 2 goal lead back. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 07:39 PM	#918
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	LOL Hiller is a terrible actor. It was for sure a penalty on Hudler but he acted like he was re-enacting the JFK assassination with how he went down.

05-14-2009, 07:40 PM	#919
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	I know the Wings are up 2 and I shouldn't bitch, but HOW does Pronger tackling Hossa behind the net not deserve a penalty? __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

05-14-2009, 07:42 PM	#920
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	3-2. Gonna be a war.

05-14-2009, 07:45 PM	#921
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	Words cannot express my hatred for Chris Pronger. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

05-14-2009, 07:58 PM	#922
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	That is all.

05-14-2009, 08:00 PM	#923
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Damn, I know we're all getting older but Don Johnson has really gone downhill. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-14-2009, 08:01 PM	#924
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	I feel better now. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

05-14-2009, 08:06 PM	#925
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Holy crap. That's two straight times with just downright stupid plays by the Ducks D and they're lucky it's still 3-2. Crossing right in front of the goal followed by a crappy turnover. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 08:15 PM	#926
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Tough break there for Detroit.

05-14-2009, 08:16 PM	#927
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow! Now this is what a game 7 should look like SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 08:18 PM	#928
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Detroit needs to do something on the PP or they're cooked. That was their big advantage this series but Anaheim's had the better PP.

05-14-2009, 08:20 PM	#929
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Is the diving flip of the puck across the blue line legal? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 08:32 PM	#931
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Helluva an effort there by Cleary to score that goal.

05-14-2009, 08:34 PM	#932
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Oh man. Hiller knocked it in SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 08:34 PM	#933
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I don't even know what to make of this. All I know is, nothing good could have come from it. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-14-2009, 08:36 PM	#934
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Nice of Hiller to reinforce my perception of the Ducks as whiny little bitches. I was almost starting to feel funny about sitting here pulling so hard for Detroit but not any more. Now if I could see Getzlaf get KTFO'ed this portion of the night would be just about complete. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-14-2009, 08:39 PM	#935
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Well this has been what playoff hockey is all about, minus the chinsy calls.

05-14-2009, 08:40 PM	#936
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Now that's what a game 7 is supposed to look like. I'd have preferred Anaheim won. But I can't wait for Hawks-Wings SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-14-2009, 08:40 PM	#937
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Good series, Wings. You earned it. Glad we could make you really fight for it. There were just too many ways this thing could have gone different (both today and in other games). Lots to think about it over the summer for the Ducks. I hope I haven't just watched the last games by Scotty and Teemu. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.