2010 NCAA Tournament (and NIT) Thread - Page 19

RedKingGold · 03-20-2010, 02:08 PM

Villanova played horribly and dserves to lose. The Wildcats did not want to be here this year.

Congrats to St. Mary's, they deserve to win and will be rooting for them the rest of the way.

sterlingice · 03-20-2010, 02:08 PM

Got some feet tied up there

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Galaxy · 03-20-2010, 02:11 PM

Great job St. Mary's. 1st time they made it to the Sweet 16?

whomario · 03-20-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Villanova played horribly and dserves to lose. The Wildcats did not want to be here this year.

Congrats to St. Mary's, they deserve to win and will be rooting for them the rest of the way.

disagree, at least in the 2nd half they played good with a lot of energy, Saint Mary´s simply prevailed. Don´t shorthand them here ...

@ Galaxy Yep

kingfc22 · 03-20-2010, 02:14 PM

And the west coast knocks off another "big, bad" Big East team. Muahahah.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-20-2010, 02:18 PM

Great game by St. Mary's. I was expecting Villanova to go down in the 2nd round, just not to them.

Thomkal · 03-20-2010, 02:18 PM

anybody for a Old Dominion/Saint Mary's matchup in the next round? Baylor certainly didn't win easily in the first round...

timmynausea · 03-20-2010, 02:19 PM

Two of the best scorers in Big East history go out with a whimper: Harangody scores 4 in the loss to ODU, Reynolds scores 8 today against SMC. Reynolds shot 4-26 from the field in Villanova's 2 tournament games.

RedKingGold · 03-20-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

disagree, at least in the 2nd half they played good with a lot of energy, Saint Mary´s simply prevailed. Don´t shorthand them here ...

@ Galaxy Yep

Nope, I've watched this team all year, watched at least 20 games.

They did not bring intensity to this tournament and acted as if the Sweet 16 was their birthright. They made it the past two years and were playing double digit seeds in the first two rounds. Combined with the "minor teaching point" needed before opening game, it's clear that these guys were just not in it.

Still, young nucleus for 'Nova for next year. Although we lose Reynolds, a core of Cheek/Yarou/Wayans/King is solid to build around. But we need to do something about our defense.

RedKingGold · 03-20-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

anybody for a Old Dominion/Saint Mary's matchup in the next round? Baylor certainly didn't win easily in the first round...

+1

Would love to see that.

Would also love to see Duke die in a car fire.

sterlingice · 03-20-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

anybody for a Old Dominion/Saint Mary's matchup in the next round? Baylor certainly didn't win easily in the first round...

I'm not sure how good of a matchup Baylor is for ODU, tho. Baylor has some size and that's all ODU really has- again, as I've said before: big conference size but not big conference skill. That's why matching up with Notre Dame worked pretty well in the first round as the Irish didn't have much size.

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mauchow · 03-20-2010, 02:27 PM

Wow, shot all the way up the ladder on ESPN with that St Mary's win. In the 99.6 percentile now. 20,000th place or so. I've got St Mary's winning one more game. I love March Madness.

But I had Murray st upsetting UTEP (Butler) in the second round; it does not look good at the moment.

sterlingice · 03-20-2010, 02:28 PM

Like I posted earlier- I had Nova losing in the second round but St Marys-Richmond, I was unsure about who would win and I picked the wrong one

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kingfc22 · 03-20-2010, 02:37 PM

I was up to 352 on ESPN last night, but down to 4982 with the Nova loss.

sterlingice · 03-20-2010, 02:40 PM

Hell, I'll just be happy with Top 10 in the FOFC Yahoo pool much less really good national rankings

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Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-20-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B

My sarcasm wasnt clear enough.

Clemson coach Oliver Purnell has a long track record of postseason NCAA failure, many times losing as a higher seed in 'upset' fashion. Think this now makes him 0-7 lifetime in the tournament, never advancing.

In fact, now in the past 4 seasons, Clemson has been the higher seed and lost in the opening round.

Conversely, in four previous NCAA tournament appearances, Missouri Coach Mike Anderson has thrice navigated past the first round and twice reached the tournament's second weekend. Yesterdays win makes it 4 out of 5 now.

Beating a Purnell coached team in the NCAA tournament, routine.

Beating the Hillbillies on Sunday, not likely.

Coach Anderson is now 9-4 in the NCAA tournament with most of those wins coming as the lower seed. I think it's awfully premature to write off his resume. He's held his own quite well.

jbergey22 · 03-20-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Really surprised that WVU is only a 6 point favorite to start. I would have thought that they would have been favored by more than that over Mizzou.

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Coach Anderson is now 9-4 in the NCAA tournament with most of those wins coming as the lower seed. I think it's awfully premature to write off his resume. He's held his own quite well.

Scoobz0202 · 03-20-2010, 03:19 PM

I think he's just saying that WVU should be heavier favorites, but with that being said, Mizzou can very well beat WVU.

jbergey22 · 03-20-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

I think he's just saying that WVU should be heavier favorites, but with that even with that being said, Mizzou can very well beat WVU.

Perhaps I guess Im not sure. Power rankings say W Virginia should be favored by 3-4 so WVU is already getting 2 points added for some reason.

Scoobz0202 · 03-20-2010, 03:23 PM

Agreed. I don't think WVU should be favored more than they already are, that's just what I got from his posts.

Swaggs · 03-20-2010, 03:32 PM

I can't imagine WVU being too big of a favorite. We have won a lot of close games and I think our average margin of victory is "only" like 10-points (and that includes the early handful of blowouts that most major schools play in.

I'd probably put us as a 4-point favorite and say we win the game 6 or 7 times out of 10 on a neutral court.

Swaggs · 03-20-2010, 03:34 PM

We also aren't a real high scoring team and we don't really "pull away" at the end of games.

I'm really looking forward to this game. We owe Missouri for knocking us out of the NCAAs back when I was in Jr. High.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-20-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Perhaps I guess Im not sure. Power rankings say W Virginia should be favored by 3-4 so WVU is already getting 2 points added for some reason.

Yeah, I'm even more surprised by the power ratings predictions. I thought both would favor WVU, but Mizzou is still pretty high on the power rankings so that's probably the reason it's relatively close. Of course, the Vegas line always favors the team that they want to get more action on. I guess they expect more action on Mizzou with a line any lower than that.

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

We also aren't a real high scoring team and we don't really "pull away" at the end of games.

I'm really looking forward to this game. We owe Missouri for knocking us out of the NCAAs back when I was in Jr. High.

I forgot all about that.

sterlingice · 03-20-2010, 04:13 PM

Not exactly what you thought of as a marquee matchup but Murray State-Butler is turning out to be a really fun game

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mauchow · 03-20-2010, 04:14 PM

Butler missing bunnies now...

JonInMiddleGA · 03-20-2010, 04:19 PM

And once again CBS screws over Atlanta, staying away from the primary game in spite of the fact that the margin is now just six points.

Between them & ESPN earlier, my ability to enjoy watching the tournament is pretty much dead at this point. It's become pretty obvious that both networks are trying to drive as many viewers as possible to their online feeds -- whether they want to be there or not -- in order to boost their numbers there (I suspect that's a sign that they've overpromised delivery to their advertisers & don't want to be forced to do makegoods later).

News flash for both networks: I'll simply check the scores elsewhere/later rather than fight through the crash-inducing 360 or try to watch large portions of a game on a monitor that's smaller than the first TV I owned as a small child.

Fuck CBS. Fuck ESPN. And after the past 5 hours of not getting my primary game, I'm pretty close to ready to say Fuck college basketball.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 04:21 PM

I just want a mid-major in the Elite Eight or beyond. If Murray State thinks they have the juice to do it, then that's fine. But I feel like Butler has a better chance to get at it.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 04:22 PM

Clutch work there, Butler shooter.

mauchow · 03-20-2010, 04:23 PM

Oh man what a dumb foul.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-20-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I just want a mid-major in the Elite Eight or beyond.

Oh yes, nothing like teams that 99% of the country couldn't find on a map with 5 tries.

Radii · 03-20-2010, 04:25 PM

Murray State has to be kicking themselves after a 3-10 performance at the FT line, not to mention a -10 turnover margin. They should have this game well in hand.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Oh yes, nothing like teams that 99% of the country couldn't find on a map with 5 tries.

Damn right.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 04:30 PM

Not a pretty win, but a win nonetheless.

sterlingice · 03-20-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Oh yes, nothing like teams that 99% of the country couldn't find on a map with 5 tries.

If they win 3 games, they get the spot, popularity be damned. Turns out pretty much every basketball fan knows where Gonzaga is now.

SI

TargetPractice6 · 03-20-2010, 04:31 PM

Damn, I wish Murray St had at least gotten a shot off.

Radii · 03-20-2010, 04:31 PM

Well that was embarrassing

JonInMiddleGA · 03-20-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

If they win 3 games, they get the spot, popularity be damned.

Didn't say they wouldn't.

It's just not something that, absent some other compelling interest in the team*, that excites me beyond the possibility for some team I actively dislike to get an embarrassing loss.

Definitely isn't something that excites me beyond that aspect, if I wanted to watch NobodyGivesAFuck State U then I'd watch the DIII title game.

* That "absent some other interest" is important enough for me to make note of. I'll pull for a Peay because they're at least ostensibly Southern. Or a Georgia Southern or a Georgia State or a UTC. But pick a random team from one of the other regions of the country & match them against another similar team & I've got about the same interest as I do in NAIA ball.

mauchow · 03-20-2010, 04:45 PM

The online "High Quality" sucks most of the time..it turns blurry way too often.

whomario · 03-20-2010, 04:49 PM

Sasquatch with the 3

Great start bz Norther Iowa

JonInMiddleGA · 03-20-2010, 04:50 PM

And yet again with the switch.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Didn't say they wouldn't.

It's just not something that, absent some other compelling interest in the team*, that excites me beyond the possibility for some team I actively dislike to get an embarrassing loss.

Definitely isn't something that excites me beyond that aspect, if I wanted to watch NobodyGivesAFuck State U then I'd watch the DIII title game.

* That "absent some other interest" is important enough for me to make note of. I'll pull for a Peay because they're at least ostensibly Southern. Or a Georgia Southern or a Georgia State or a UTC. But pick a random team from one of the other regions of the country & match them against another similar team & I've got about the same interest as I do in NAIA ball.

That's how I feel about SEC football.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-20-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

That's how I feel about SEC football.

Difference being that they consistently provide the highest rated games throughout the regular season. People outside that area actually care.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 04:58 PM

UNI better keep scoring because once Kansas wakes up...Cinderella lets up or starts realizing they're winning and then bad things happen. You gotta strike while the iron is hot.

Young Drachma · 03-20-2010, 05:04 PM

...and speak of the devil...I hope someone got a picture of the scoreboard.

Karlifornia · 03-20-2010, 05:06 PM

How about whoever can get the most people watching their games wins? Jon, you don't want athletic competition, you want American Fucking Idol.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-20-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

How about whoever can get the most people watching their games wins? Jon, you don't want athletic competition, you want American Fucking Idol.

No Karl, I simply want games I can find some reason to give a damn about.

And the St. Mary's International Recruiting Trips playing the Mid- Continent WhereTheFuckAreWe's doesn't even come close.

edit to add: They could be the greatest collection of talent in the history of basketball but that doesn't compel me in the slightest. It might as well be the NBA or EuroLeague ball, neither of which interest me beyond the realm of trivia. Just because they happen to be college aged kids really doesn't change that for me at all.

SackAttack · 03-20-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

No Karl, I simply want games I can find some reason to give a damn about.

And the St. Mary's International Recruiting Trips playing the Mid- Continent WhereTheFuckAreWe's doesn't even come close.

I think what it boils down to, for decrepit old farts like Jon is, that Cinderella playing Goliath is interesting if they give Goliath a good game, but if Cinderella gets too uppity and goes all monkeys-running-the-zoo, he loses interest.

St. Mary's against Kansas in a tight game = interesting. St. Mary's against Murray State and he's going to go yell at kids to get off his lawn because it's marginally more interesting to him.

Lathum · 03-20-2010, 05:20 PM

Udub game about off to the start I expected. As long as we stay close early I feel great for the second half because of our depth.

mauchow · 03-20-2010, 05:20 PM

Fuck my bracket, go northern iowa!

SackAttack · 03-20-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Fuck my bracket, go northern iowa!

I can get behind that. Piss off Jon and screw Kansas at the same time.

03-20-2010, 02:08 PM	#901
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Villanova played horribly and dserves to lose. The Wildcats did not want to be here this year. Congrats to St. Mary's, they deserve to win and will be rooting for them the rest of the way. Last edited by RedKingGold : 03-20-2010 at 02:09 PM.

03-20-2010, 02:08 PM	#902
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Got some feet tied up there SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-20-2010, 02:11 PM	#903
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Great job St. Mary's. 1st time they made it to the Sweet 16? Last edited by Galaxy : 03-20-2010 at 02:12 PM.

03-20-2010, 02:14 PM	#905
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	And the west coast knocks off another "big, bad" Big East team. Muahahah. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-20-2010, 02:18 PM	#906
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Great game by St. Mary's. I was expecting Villanova to go down in the 2nd round, just not to them. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-20-2010, 02:18 PM	#907
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	anybody for a Old Dominion/Saint Mary's matchup in the next round? Baylor certainly didn't win easily in the first round...

03-20-2010, 02:19 PM	#908
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Two of the best scorers in Big East history go out with a whimper: Harangody scores 4 in the loss to ODU, Reynolds scores 8 today against SMC. Reynolds shot 4-26 from the field in Villanova's 2 tournament games. Last edited by timmynausea : 03-20-2010 at 02:20 PM.

03-20-2010, 02:27 PM	#912
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Wow, shot all the way up the ladder on ESPN with that St Mary's win. In the 99.6 percentile now. 20,000th place or so. I've got St Mary's winning one more game. I love March Madness. But I had Murray st upsetting UTEP (Butler) in the second round; it does not look good at the moment. Last edited by mauchow : 03-20-2010 at 02:37 PM.

03-20-2010, 02:28 PM	#913
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Like I posted earlier- I had Nova losing in the second round but St Marys-Richmond, I was unsure about who would win and I picked the wrong one SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-20-2010, 02:37 PM	#914
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I was up to 352 on ESPN last night, but down to 4982 with the Nova loss. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-20-2010, 02:40 PM	#915
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Hell, I'll just be happy with Top 10 in the FOFC Yahoo pool much less really good national rankings SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-20-2010, 03:19 PM	#918
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	I think he's just saying that WVU should be heavier favorites, but with that being said, Mizzou can very well beat WVU. Last edited by Scoobz0202 : 03-20-2010 at 03:20 PM.

03-20-2010, 03:23 PM	#920
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Agreed. I don't think WVU should be favored more than they already are, that's just what I got from his posts.

03-20-2010, 03:32 PM	#921
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I can't imagine WVU being too big of a favorite. We have won a lot of close games and I think our average margin of victory is "only" like 10-points (and that includes the early handful of blowouts that most major schools play in. I'd probably put us as a 4-point favorite and say we win the game 6 or 7 times out of 10 on a neutral court. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-20-2010, 03:34 PM	#922
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	We also aren't a real high scoring team and we don't really "pull away" at the end of games. I'm really looking forward to this game. We owe Missouri for knocking us out of the NCAAs back when I was in Jr. High. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-20-2010, 04:13 PM	#924
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Not exactly what you thought of as a marquee matchup but Murray State-Butler is turning out to be a really fun game SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-20-2010, 04:14 PM	#925
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Butler missing bunnies now...

03-20-2010, 04:19 PM	#926
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	And once again CBS screws over Atlanta, staying away from the primary game in spite of the fact that the margin is now just six points. Between them & ESPN earlier, my ability to enjoy watching the tournament is pretty much dead at this point. It's become pretty obvious that both networks are trying to drive as many viewers as possible to their online feeds -- whether they want to be there or not -- in order to boost their numbers there (I suspect that's a sign that they've overpromised delivery to their advertisers & don't want to be forced to do makegoods later). News flash for both networks: I'll simply check the scores elsewhere/later rather than fight through the crash-inducing 360 or try to watch large portions of a game on a monitor that's smaller than the first TV I owned as a small child. Fuck CBS. Fuck ESPN. And after the past 5 hours of not getting my primary game, I'm pretty close to ready to say Fuck college basketball. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-20-2010, 04:21 PM	#927
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I just want a mid-major in the Elite Eight or beyond. If Murray State thinks they have the juice to do it, then that's fine. But I feel like Butler has a better chance to get at it. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

03-20-2010, 04:22 PM	#928
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Clutch work there, Butler shooter.

03-20-2010, 04:23 PM	#929
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Oh man what a dumb foul.

03-20-2010, 04:25 PM	#931
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Murray State has to be kicking themselves after a 3-10 performance at the FT line, not to mention a -10 turnover margin. They should have this game well in hand.

03-20-2010, 04:30 PM	#933
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Not a pretty win, but a win nonetheless.

03-20-2010, 04:31 PM	#935
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	Damn, I wish Murray St had at least gotten a shot off. Last edited by TargetPractice6 : 03-20-2010 at 04:31 PM.

03-20-2010, 04:31 PM	#936
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Well that was embarrassing

03-20-2010, 04:45 PM	#938
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	The online "High Quality" sucks most of the time..it turns blurry way too often. Last edited by mauchow : 03-20-2010 at 05:03 PM.

03-20-2010, 04:49 PM	#939
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Sasquatch with the 3 Great start bz Norther Iowa

03-20-2010, 04:50 PM	#940
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	And yet again with the switch. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-20-2010, 04:58 PM	#943
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	UNI better keep scoring because once Kansas wakes up...Cinderella lets up or starts realizing they're winning and then bad things happen. You gotta strike while the iron is hot.

03-20-2010, 05:04 PM	#944
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	...and speak of the devil...I hope someone got a picture of the scoreboard.

03-20-2010, 05:06 PM	#945
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	How about whoever can get the most people watching their games wins? Jon, you don't want athletic competition, you want American Fucking Idol. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-20-2010, 05:20 PM	#948
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Udub game about off to the start I expected. As long as we stay close early I feel great for the second half because of our depth.

03-20-2010, 05:20 PM	#949
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Fuck my bracket, go northern iowa!

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