Survivor: New Howard Tribal Thread (Tribal Council Due 10 PM Sunday) - Page 19

Abe Sargent · 02-13-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Jonathan and Anxiety:

I think there is a way we're not dead yet. BUT... We have to stick together.

So here's what I propose. The three of us form an iron-clad alliance. We need to keep trying to win challenges to try to keep Howard out of tribal council. But if/when we do go, I have a plan that just might keep us alive a little longer.

Im in

Poli · 02-13-2007, 05:15 PM

I got a feeling the Old Oz tribe is really going to be torn apart here.

Abe Sargent · 02-13-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

And Jonathan and Anxiety:

No need to post "I'm in" or anything like that at this time. I just wanted to post my initial thoughts to plant a little bug in your ear. Just something to keep in mind.

Heh, read this after posting just now. Made me laugh. Not build a case against Blad ein teh middle of the day when he died mid day laugh, but laugh nonetheless.

Passacaglia · 02-13-2007, 05:23 PM

Vote Scissors

Poli · 02-13-2007, 05:26 PM

Does it need to be a vote thing or is my ROCK good?

Passacaglia · 02-13-2007, 06:11 PM

I think you're good. I was just being cute.

ImTheCrew · 02-13-2007, 06:18 PM

Vote Paper

Poli · 02-13-2007, 06:29 PM

ITC, in theory that will be a tie.

Poli · 02-13-2007, 06:30 PM

Ah shoot. Someone went and narc'ed me out. Dang it. What the heck was up with that?

ImTheCrew · 02-13-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

ITC, in theory that will be a tie.

what do you mean

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I need to look at those numbers...what the tribe breakdowns turned out to be...I'd rather side with group least likely to have a wolf.

The alliance offered between Old Oz and Helsing does give the best chance of nailing the wolves. That is the point.

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 07:30 PM

Pass, what am I missing. They are saying we already agreed to something? Yes I want to follow with the alliance. But are we supposed to vote a certain way?

ImTheCrew · 02-13-2007, 07:32 PM

if so tell me what to throw

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

if so tell me what to throw

IMC, I think we are agreeing to throw Scissors and lose. Then old Oz players band with the Helsing players to vote out a lupus / howard player as across both teams that garners the best results at eliminating wolves.

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 07:36 PM

IMC are you on board?

Abe Sargent · 02-13-2007, 07:38 PM

I throw rock. I want to win. This is still survivor and we should still be trying to win challenges. Besides, you never know if another team is either A) tellingthe truth (*cough* OZ) or B. not playing (*cough OZ).

ImTheCrew · 02-13-2007, 07:44 PM

imnot sure

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok here's the lineups for our RPS show-down:

A-Anxiety vs Lathum
B-Passacaglia vs Swaggs
C-ImTheCrew vs Mr. Wednesday
D-Jonathan Ezarik vs Cronin
E-KWhit vs Path
F-Golden Eagle vs Path
G-ardent enthusiast vs Alan
H-Grammaticus vs SnDvls

Good luck to all. Remember to post IN your thread which thing you are throwing.

Scissors

ImTheCrew · 02-13-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

Vote Paper

Change to VOTE SCISSORS

Barkeep49 · 02-13-2007, 08:06 PM

OK I'm missing throws from Jonathan and KWhit at this point. Let me know if someone has something for one of those two.

ImTheCrew · 02-13-2007, 08:07 PM

we have an hour right?

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 08:07 PM

We should be trying to win this challenge guys.

ITC, don't believe everything you're told. It is NOT a given who this tribe will vote out yet. It could very well be you.

WE NEED TO WIN THIS CHALLENGE.

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

OK I'm missing throws from Jonathan and KWhit at this point. Let me know if someone has something for one of those two.

Yeah. It's not deadline yet. Right?

Barkeep49 · 02-13-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah. It's not deadline yet. Right?

Yup. An hour to go. Just trying to be on top of things so I can get results out promptly then.

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 08:09 PM

No prob.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-13-2007, 08:46 PM

Poli · 02-13-2007, 08:48 PM

I'm in it to win it. I'm not throwing a challenge.

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 08:48 PM

Time check...

Poli · 02-13-2007, 08:48 PM

I love run time errors, I really do. I couldn't wait to come in to work so I could experience them again. To think, I went 3 whole days without run time errors.

GoldenEagle · 02-13-2007, 08:53 PM

Vote SCISSORS

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 08:57 PM

Vote Paper.

Poli · 02-13-2007, 08:58 PM

I sure hope we win.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-13-2007, 09:11 PM

Okay, KWhit, what's your plan?

GoldenEagle · 02-13-2007, 09:25 PM

I am caught up now after a long day of work. I am crunching some numbers and seeing what all went on today.

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 09:26 PM

Losing the challenge sucked.

Okay. I have two plans actually. Well, a plan and a half.

I don't want to share them yet though. I want to chat about some stuff first.

First question:
Do we really think there are werewolves in this game? We haven't seen any evidence of them yet.

If they are in the game, what is their winning condition?

Passacaglia · 02-13-2007, 09:27 PM

I've got no reason to lie to you. There are definitely werewolves in the game.

Poli · 02-13-2007, 09:30 PM

Watch this. Grey. Yeah, I rule.

I can even skip down a few lines.

Yeah, I rule.

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Losing the challenge sucked.

Okay. I have two plans actually. Well, a plan and a half.

I don't want to share them yet though. I want to chat about some stuff first.

First question:
Do we really think there are werewolves in this game? We haven't seen any evidence of them yet.

If they are in the game, what is their winning condition?

The answer to our challenge questions supports the fact wolves are in the game.

Poli · 02-13-2007, 09:31 PM

I can answer the winning condition. RA commented on it. Lemme take a look.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-13-2007, 09:35 PM

I don't think you're allowed to look in the old threads now.

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 09:37 PM

Well, other Ozites what did RA say the wolf winning conditions were?

GoldenEagle · 02-13-2007, 09:37 PM

Did RA say something about having to come into contact with other wolves before being able to kill? I do not think I can go back and see that thread, or I would look.

GoldenEagle · 02-13-2007, 09:37 PM

I can't ever recall RA making any statements about winning conditions.

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 09:41 PM

What else do you want to talk about Kwhit?

Poli · 02-13-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I can answer the winning condition. RA commented on it. Lemme take a look.

Err, well I did, since, well I from that tribe.

Essentially he stated that he had no "wolves get a 1:1 ratio" like you typically see...a wolf wins by being the ultimate survivor was his best guess.

Poli · 02-13-2007, 09:43 PM

And even if I'm not allowed, I would have recalled that answer anyways. I was just wanting to verify it.

Grammaticus · 02-13-2007, 09:54 PM

The rules state "ultimate survivor" as the only winning condition at this point. The rules also state the winning conditions may change at any time.

KWhit · 02-13-2007, 10:10 PM

The way I see it, there are 3 of us whose only chance at survival is sticking together and forming a voting block. Me, Anxiety, and JE.

One more would give us a tie in tomorrow's tribal council. I'm not sure what the tiebreaker is - possibly previous votes received? So we'd need 5 votes to make it a certainty to move on. I'm not sure 5 is doable.

However, 4 should be achievable to at least get the tie. I see two ways of getting that 4th vote.

The first way is to get someone previously from Oz or Helsing into our alliance. Someone willing to leave their old tribe allegiance and come join us with the understanding that we form what is essentially a new team. All 4 of us on equal footing. The 4 of us coast into the next merge.

The issue is going to be trust. Would we be able to trust you? That's going to be hard, because we'd have to understand why you'd want to join our alliance.

But the 3 of us have nothing to lose. This is the only way we can stay alive, so if this works out, we'd be solid team mates.

So that's option one. The less creative of the two choices. I'd like to explore that one a bit before we get into the other option - we can discuss it tomorrow.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-13-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

We haven't seen any evidence of them yet.

I can't believe that everyone is so quick to dismiss the possibility of conversions. There have been zero night kills in this game. What other explanation could there be?

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-13-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Essentially he stated that he had no "wolves get a 1:1 ratio" like you typically see...a wolf wins by being the ultimate survivor was his best guess.

This goes right along with my thoughts in the main thread. This is not a normal WW game. This is SURVIVOR. People really should start remembering that before it's too late.

02-13-2007, 05:15 PM	#902
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I got a feeling the Old Oz tribe is really going to be torn apart here. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 05:26 PM	#905
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Does it need to be a vote thing or is my ROCK good? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 06:29 PM	#908
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	ITC, in theory that will be a tie. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 06:30 PM	#909
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Ah shoot. Someone went and narc'ed me out. Dang it. What the heck was up with that? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 07:38 PM	#916
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I throw rock. I want to win. This is still survivor and we should still be trying to win challenges. Besides, you never know if another team is either A) tellingthe truth (cough OZ) or B. not playing (*cough OZ). __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

02-13-2007, 05:23 PM	#904
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Vote Scissors

02-13-2007, 06:11 PM	#906
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think you're good. I was just being cute.

02-13-2007, 06:18 PM	#907
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	Vote Paper

02-13-2007, 07:30 PM	#912
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Pass, what am I missing. They are saying we already agreed to something? Yes I want to follow with the alliance. But are we supposed to vote a certain way?

02-13-2007, 07:32 PM	#913
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	if so tell me what to throw

02-13-2007, 07:36 PM	#915
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	IMC are you on board?

02-13-2007, 07:44 PM	#917
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	imnot sure

02-13-2007, 08:06 PM	#920
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	OK I'm missing throws from Jonathan and KWhit at this point. Let me know if someone has something for one of those two.

02-13-2007, 08:07 PM	#921
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	we have an hour right?

02-13-2007, 08:07 PM	#922
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	We should be trying to win this challenge guys. ITC, don't believe everything you're told. It is NOT a given who this tribe will vote out yet. It could very well be you. WE NEED TO WIN THIS CHALLENGE.

02-13-2007, 08:09 PM	#925
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	No prob.

02-13-2007, 08:46 PM	#926
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	ROCK

02-13-2007, 08:48 PM	#927
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm in it to win it. I'm not throwing a challenge. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 08:48 PM	#928
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Time check...

02-13-2007, 08:48 PM	#929
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I love run time errors, I really do. I couldn't wait to come in to work so I could experience them again. To think, I went 3 whole days without run time errors. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 08:53 PM	#930
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Vote SCISSORS __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-13-2007, 08:57 PM	#931
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Vote Paper.

02-13-2007, 08:58 PM	#932
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I sure hope we win. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 09:11 PM	#933
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Okay, KWhit, what's your plan?

02-13-2007, 09:25 PM	#934
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I am caught up now after a long day of work. I am crunching some numbers and seeing what all went on today. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-13-2007, 09:26 PM	#935
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Losing the challenge sucked. Okay. I have two plans actually. Well, a plan and a half. I don't want to share them yet though. I want to chat about some stuff first. First question: Do we really think there are werewolves in this game? We haven't seen any evidence of them yet. If they are in the game, what is their winning condition?

02-13-2007, 09:27 PM	#936
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I've got no reason to lie to you. There are definitely werewolves in the game.

02-13-2007, 09:30 PM	#937
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Watch this. Grey. Yeah, I rule. I can even skip down a few lines. Yeah, I rule. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 09:31 PM	#939
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I can answer the winning condition. RA commented on it. Lemme take a look. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-13-2007, 09:35 PM	#940
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I don't think you're allowed to look in the old threads now.

02-13-2007, 09:37 PM	#941
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Well, other Ozites what did RA say the wolf winning conditions were?

02-13-2007, 09:37 PM	#942
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Did RA say something about having to come into contact with other wolves before being able to kill? I do not think I can go back and see that thread, or I would look. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-13-2007, 09:37 PM	#943
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I can't ever recall RA making any statements about winning conditions. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-13-2007, 09:41 PM	#944
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	What else do you want to talk about Kwhit?

02-13-2007, 09:43 PM	#946
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	And even if I'm not allowed, I would have recalled that answer anyways. I was just wanting to verify it. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.