The Trump Presidency – 2016 - Page 184

whomario · 03-17-2018, 04:58 PM

Everything wrong with Fox News in one video pic.twitter.com/MhnApiQ3pG
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) 16. März 2018

Thomkal · 03-17-2018, 05:18 PM

wow put that on playback on every Fox news channel twitter.

NobodyHere · 03-17-2018, 08:23 PM

A couple of Democratic congressmen are offering McCabe a job so he can get his full pension. Apparently he only has to work a day.

whomario · 03-17-2018, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

A couple of Democratic congressmen are offering McCabe a job so he can get his full pension. Apparently he only has to work a day.

That's what imo is the real problem with a guy like Trump: He makes everything personal and actively seeks to hurt people as much as he can. Not just fire a guy, but fire him a day short of his pension and personally attack him.

And he doesn't seem to grasp at all that people in the public agencies are not his employees but civil servants. There's a difference and he doesn't get it.

Thomkal · 03-17-2018, 09:21 PM

So this is what set off Trump's latest tweet storm:

Mueller gives Trump's legal team questions for potential interview: report | TheHill

JPhillips · 03-17-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

That's what imo is the real problem with a guy like Trump: He makes everything personal and actively seeks to hurt people as much as he can. Not just fire a guy, but fire him a day short of his pension and personally attack him.

And he doesn't seem to grasp at all that people in the public agencies are not his employees but civil servants. There's a difference and he doesn't get it.

Just to clarify, make someone else fire a guy. He's too much of a pussy to do it himself.

JPhillips · 03-17-2018, 10:29 PM

dola

I'm sure this is just an odd coincidence.

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Cambridge Analytica, the data firm the Trump campaign used during the 2016 election, met with Russian business executives, The New York Times reported Saturday.

The firms’ employees had been in contact with executives from Russian oil giant Lukoil in 2014 and 2015, according to company documents.

There were reportedly three meetings with Lukoil executives in London and Turkey and Lukoil was interested in how data was used to target American voters.

AlexB · 03-18-2018, 02:47 AM

While I agree with the complete double standard on the Fox clips, and think Trump is a disaster in general, note that Obama said he would talk/meet, Trump said he is meeting, so there is something to crow about.

It may well be that Kim agreed to meet with Trump as he thinks he is far more likely to be able to get what he wants through Trump than with Obama, but until the meet actually happens and Trump announces that the US has become the junior partner in the new Kormerica, Trump definitely has a ‘win’ to claim.

whomario · 03-18-2018, 06:23 AM

Until it happens it can't be a win, not if you say it can't be a loss either.

Edward64 · 03-18-2018, 10:31 AM

Rambling thoughts this morning.

Hillary is starting (continuing?) to sound like a sore loser now. She should just fade away gracefully or play behind the scenes as the grand dame.

I think the odds of Mueller being fired has increased. Looking forward to the Mueller vs Trump escalation. I'm still thinking no collusion between Trump and Russians but can easily believe collusion with Trump's team and Russians.

No specific details on what/how McCabe mislead but he was probably wrong. I like a response from a talking head this morning (paraphrased) ... "the firing may have merit but its not without taint".

If I was Rex, I would be glad the attention wasn't on me all week.

Atocep · 03-18-2018, 11:36 AM

Trump seems to be getting really worried about the Mueller investigation.

BBT · 03-18-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Rambling thoughts this morning.

Hillary is starting (continuing?) to sound like a sore loser now. She should just fade away gracefully or play behind the scenes as the grand dame.

Agreed. She's doing more harm than good. Needs to bow out gracefully; her time is done.

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I think the odds of Mueller being fired has increased. Looking forward to the Mueller vs Trump escalation. I'm still thinking no collusion between Trump and Russians but can easily believe collusion with Trump's team and Russians.

Mueller can only be fired by Rosenstein since Sessions recused himself. Rosenstein would have to be fired first by Sessions and they'd have to replace him with someone that had to be approved by the Senate. Senate wants the investigation to continue.

Whether Trump himself colluded isn't really the issue anymore. The evidence is piling up that he's obstructing justice. Honestly, for his own sake, he should throw everybody that he thinks colluded under the bus and move on. Continuing to tweet like he is won't help him.

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Originally Posted by Edward64

No specific details on what/how McCabe mislead but he was probably wrong. I like a response from a talking head this morning (paraphrased) ... "the firing may have merit but its not without taint".

It's typical Trump.

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Originally Posted by Edward64

If I was Rex, I would be glad the attention wasn't on me all week.

Yep

Edward64 · 03-18-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Trump seems to be getting really worried about the Mueller investigation.

I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing things there.

Atocep · 03-18-2018, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing things there.

I agree, but I don't think collusion is what Mueller is going to hiit him with.

On a side note, keep in mind that Trump can also fire Mueller by firing Sessions and replacing him with someone that doesn't need to recuse himself.

Marc Vaughan · 03-18-2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing things there.

I think he'll definitely go down for tax evasion without a doubt - collusion I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, but proving it will be far harder than catching him for dodgy business practices ..

mckerney · 03-18-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

It's amazing what you can't find when you're not looking for it.

Shocking.

House Intel Republican says panel did not investigate collusion | TheHill

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Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) said Sunday the House Intelligence Committee was not tasked with investigating collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, despite the committee issuing a report last week stating it found no evidence of collusion in the 2016 election.

“Our committee was not charged with answering the collusion idea,” Conaway said on NBC's “Meet The Press.”

"So we really weren’t focused on that direction."

Thomkal · 03-18-2018, 03:39 PM

Just digging his hole deeper

JPhillips · 03-18-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I agree, but I don't think collusion is what Mueller is going to hiit him with.

On a side note, keep in mind that Trump can also fire Mueller by firing Sessions and replacing him with someone that doesn't need to recuse himself.

I expect the report on collusion will be blistering, but much, maybe all of it won't be illegal, so Mueller will put them in jail through perjury and financial crimes. That way he doesn't have to hope the GOP congress will take action for what are political crimes.

Ben E Lou · 03-18-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some ~~embarrassing~~ illegal things there.

Fixed.

miami_fan · 03-18-2018, 06:43 PM

No love for the re-election of President Putin? 73.9% is impressive.

PilotMan · 03-18-2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Fixed.

Numerous. Incredibly numerous.

whomario · 03-18-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

No love for the re-election of President Putin? 73.9% is impressive.

Not really, not with the state of the russian “democracy“. Even without going into this (plenty of hidden camera vids out there showing officials stuffing ballot boxes with bogus votes and such, not to mention more systematic fraud), this is essentially like a US vote would go if you had just one major party with 90% of the media beholden to it and then a bunch of independent-like competitors in terms of ressources both financially and logistically. The communist party the biggest of those but that message isn't exactly inspiring the younger generation to vote. Most of the others a big portion of voters dont even have on their radar.

I mean, victory was such a foregone conclusion that the main empasise towards the end was purely getting the voter participation up (which was down a decent amount even by the official numbers).

Edward64 · 03-18-2018, 09:18 PM

I don't think US democracy works everywhere. FWIW, the % may be less but I think Putin would have won in a "fair" election anyway.

sabotai · 03-18-2018, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

(plenty of hidden camera vids out there showing officials stuffing ballot boxes with bogus votes and such, not to mention more systematic fraud)

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Twitter page of someone posting CCTV footage of people stuffing ballot boxes.

Groundhog · 03-18-2018, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I don't think US democracy works everywhere. FWIW, the % may be less but I think Putin would have won in a "fair" election anyway.

To be perfectly honest, not sure it works anywhere, US included. I won't claim a dictatorship is a better solution, but two party opposition politics is hardly a political utopia.

JPhillips · 03-18-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

Not really, not with the state of the russian “democracy“. Even without going into this (plenty of hidden camera vids out there showing officials stuffing ballot boxes with bogus votes and such, not to mention more systematic fraud), this is essentially like a US vote would go if you had just one major party with 90% of the media beholden to it and then a bunch of independent-like competitors in terms of ressources both financially and logistically. The communist party the biggest of those but that message isn't exactly inspiring the younger generation to vote. Most of the others a big portion of voters dont even have on their radar.

I mean, victory was such a foregone conclusion that the main empasise towards the end was purely getting the voter participation up (which was down a decent amount even by the official numbers).

And the only possible threat(Navalny) arrested and deemed ineligible for the election.

Thomkal · 03-19-2018, 07:07 AM

This will come as no surprise but Trump made senior staff sign NDA's to try to prevent them from leaking:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ort/436778002/

cuervo72 · 03-19-2018, 07:28 AM

Yeah, that doesn't seem enforceable.

Marc Vaughan · 03-19-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

This will come as no surprise but Trump made senior staff sign NDA's to try to prevent them from leaking:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ort/436778002/

That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).

cartman · 03-19-2018, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).

Those kinds of things would be covered by your security clearance.

Edward64 · 03-19-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).

That's what I would have thought. TBH, I think a NDA is appropriate. I would assume that does not cover any criminal activities.

cuervo72 · 03-19-2018, 09:49 AM

Seems like a big assumption to me.

Thomkal · 03-19-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).

As far as I know Trump is the first President to require them. Freedom of Speech, protecting potential whistleblowers, etc is what I was thinking of here.

whomario · 03-19-2018, 10:21 AM

If you can't inspire loyalty, force it.

miami_fan · 03-19-2018, 02:52 PM

Details. I am sure if you asked Putin, he would tell you that all those things had no impact whatsoever on the election results.

#Don’tQuestionThePresidentialElections

Edward64 · 03-19-2018, 03:57 PM

Not sure where to put this but wanted to record it for posterity sake.

If I was him, I would have said "sorry, bad joke" but the apology implies he really believed it. Weird.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/19/polit...ent/index.html

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A Washington, DC, council member apologized Sunday night after receiving backlash for comments he made in a video implying Washington's snowy March weather was controlled by Jewish financiers.
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"Man, it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man. Y'all better pay attention to this climate control, man, this climate manipulation," he says in the video, which was shot through windshield of a car driving through downtown Washington. "And DC keep talking about, 'We a resilient city.' And that's a model based off the Rothschilds controlling the climate to create natural disasters they can pay for to own the cities, man. Be careful."

Thomkal · 03-19-2018, 07:31 PM

Pennsylvania Repub's strike out in their attempt to prevent the new congressional map from taking place:

Supreme Court denies GOP request to block new Pa. congressional map | TheHill

Thomkal · 03-19-2018, 07:37 PM

The firm Trump campaign used in the 2016 election Cambridge Analytica for data gathering, caught on camera detailing some of the things it did to influence more than 200 elections around the world:

Cambridge Analytica CEO filmed talking about using bribes, sex workers in political work | TheHill

Thomkal · 03-19-2018, 07:40 PM

Lots of stories breaking today:

Trump hiring former federal prosecutor who's argued FBI framed president | TheHill

Thomkal · 03-19-2018, 08:03 PM

Ari Melber had Stormy Daniels attorney on again-Trump had to admit in lawsuit against Stormy that he was David Dennison-check out of msnbc for interview. And Fox covering the story less than "mainstream media" and her attorney has not received one request for an interview.

kingfc22 · 03-19-2018, 09:39 PM

Looks like Jr prefers cheating on his wife with a blonde with fake tits just as much as pops.

Groundhog · 03-19-2018, 09:43 PM

The dung doesn't fall far from the donkey's asshole, or however that saying goes.

JPhillips · 03-19-2018, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Lots of stories breaking today:

Trump hiring former federal prosecutor who's argued FBI framed president | TheHill

Hiring 70-some year old Joe DiGenova is so pathetic.

cuervo72 · 03-20-2018, 01:07 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...gnancy-n857686

Again, none of this is about pregnancy, it is about sex.

PilotMan · 03-20-2018, 04:00 PM

Gay sex is the real answer to unwanted pregnancies.

molson · 03-20-2018, 04:24 PM

Wasn't the Sermon on the Mount about female sexual purity?

That Jesus guy was always going on and on about sex.

NobodyHere · 03-20-2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Gay sex is the real answer to unwanted pregnancies.

The South prefers bestiality

Edward64 · 03-20-2018, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The South prefers bestiality

WTF? Where did that come from?

ISiddiqui · 03-20-2018, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The South prefers bestiality

The South will rise again... for pig sex.

PilotMan · 03-20-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The South prefers bestiality

Growing up in North Dakota, it was Montana where the men were men, and the sheep were scared.

03-17-2018, 04:58 PM	#9151
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03-17-2018, 05:18 PM	#9152
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03-17-2018, 08:23 PM	#9153
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03-17-2018, 09:21 PM	#9155
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	So this is what set off Trump's latest tweet storm: Mueller gives Trump's legal team questions for potential interview: report \| TheHill __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-18-2018, 02:47 AM	#9158
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	While I agree with the complete double standard on the Fox clips, and think Trump is a disaster in general, note that Obama said he would talk/meet, Trump said he is meeting, so there is something to crow about. It may well be that Kim agreed to meet with Trump as he thinks he is far more likely to be able to get what he wants through Trump than with Obama, but until the meet actually happens and Trump announces that the US has become the junior partner in the new Kormerica, Trump definitely has a ‘win’ to claim. __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 03-18-2018 at 03:21 AM.

03-18-2018, 06:23 AM	#9159
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Until it happens it can't be a win, not if you say it can't be a loss either. __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”

03-18-2018, 10:31 AM	#9160
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Rambling thoughts this morning. Hillary is starting (continuing?) to sound like a sore loser now. She should just fade away gracefully or play behind the scenes as the grand dame. I think the odds of Mueller being fired has increased. Looking forward to the Mueller vs Trump escalation. I'm still thinking no collusion between Trump and Russians but can easily believe collusion with Trump's team and Russians. No specific details on what/how McCabe mislead but he was probably wrong. I like a response from a talking head this morning (paraphrased) ... "the firing may have merit but its not without taint". If I was Rex, I would be glad the attention wasn't on me all week. Last edited by Edward64 : 03-18-2018 at 10:31 AM.

03-18-2018, 11:36 AM	#9161
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Trump seems to be getting really worried about the Mueller investigation.

03-18-2018, 03:39 PM	#9167
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Just digging his hole deeper __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-18-2018, 06:43 PM	#9170
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	No love for the re-election of President Putin? 73.9% is impressive. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-18-2018, 09:18 PM	#9173
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I don't think US democracy works everywhere. FWIW, the % may be less but I think Putin would have won in a "fair" election anyway.

03-19-2018, 07:07 AM	#9177
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	This will come as no surprise but Trump made senior staff sign NDA's to try to prevent them from leaking: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ort/436778002/ __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-19-2018, 07:28 AM	#9178
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Yeah, that doesn't seem enforceable. __________________ null

03-19-2018, 09:49 AM	#9182
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Seems like a big assumption to me. __________________ null

03-19-2018, 10:21 AM	#9184
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	If you can't inspire loyalty, force it. __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”

03-19-2018, 02:52 PM	#9185
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Details. I am sure if you asked Putin, he would tell you that all those things had no impact whatsoever on the election results. #Don’tQuestionThePresidentialElections __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-19-2018, 07:31 PM	#9187
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Pennsylvania Repub's strike out in their attempt to prevent the new congressional map from taking place: Supreme Court denies GOP request to block new Pa. congressional map \| TheHill __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-19-2018, 07:37 PM	#9188
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	The firm Trump campaign used in the 2016 election Cambridge Analytica for data gathering, caught on camera detailing some of the things it did to influence more than 200 elections around the world: Cambridge Analytica CEO filmed talking about using bribes, sex workers in political work \| TheHill __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-19-2018, 07:40 PM	#9189
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Lots of stories breaking today: Trump hiring former federal prosecutor who's argued FBI framed president \| TheHill __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-19-2018, 08:03 PM	#9190
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Ari Melber had Stormy Daniels attorney on again-Trump had to admit in lawsuit against Stormy that he was David Dennison-check out of msnbc for interview. And Fox covering the story less than "mainstream media" and her attorney has not received one request for an interview. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-19-2018, 09:39 PM	#9191
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Looks like Jr prefers cheating on his wife with a blonde with fake tits just as much as pops. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 03-19-2018 at 09:41 PM.

03-19-2018, 09:43 PM	#9192
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03-20-2018, 01:07 PM	#9194
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...gnancy-n857686 Again, none of this is about pregnancy, it is about sex. __________________ null

03-20-2018, 04:00 PM	#9195
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03-20-2018, 04:24 PM	#9196
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Wasn't the Sermon on the Mount about female sexual purity? That Jesus guy was always going on and on about sex. Last edited by molson : 03-20-2018 at 04:25 PM.

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