The Trump Presidency – 2016 - Page 182

BBT · 03-12-2018, 12:38 PM

DOLA:

Solid take on the whole North Korea/Trump situation from a fairly impartial writer. North Korea is doing what it always has done and Trump isn’t going to change things any more than Clinton or Obama did when they tried.

https://thefederalist.com/2018/03/12...th-korea-just/

RainMaker · 03-12-2018, 05:10 PM

I don't know if it should be a separate thread but the Russians using a chemical weapon on British soil seems like a big story. May had a pretty harsh statement today.

Theresa May's ultimatum to Putin: Explain yourself in next 24 hours or face retaliation

AlexB · 03-12-2018, 05:43 PM

I bet Putin is shaking at the prospect of the severe tutting he’s about to get

Groundhog · 03-12-2018, 06:16 PM

Come on guys, the Russians have already said it wasn't them, what more do you want.

Atocep · 03-12-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Come on guys, the Russians have already said it wasn't them, what more do you want.

I don't know why everyone doesn't want better relations with them.

Thomkal · 03-12-2018, 07:28 PM

Looks like the Republicans on the House Committee on Russia are ready to follow Trump right off the cliff:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/polit...ons/index.html

Atocep · 03-12-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Looks like the Republicans on the House Committee on Russia are ready to follow Trump right off the cliff:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/polit...ons/index.html

Pretty sure Nunes thinks he's part of Trump's secret service.

Thomkal · 03-12-2018, 08:04 PM

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 15m15 minutes ago

THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

Edward64 · 03-12-2018, 10:11 PM

Let me say that I don't know much about the merits of Broadcom & Qualcomm merger/acquisition and if the Trump admin really should have an issue.

However I do agree, in principle, with preventing the acquisition of key US companies by foreign companies e.g. Chinese company buying Oracle or Microsoft.

Trump blocks Broadcom's $117 billion Qualcomm bid over national security - Mar. 12, 2018

Quote:

The White House has blocked Broadcom's $117 billion bid for Qualcomm due to national security concerns.

In an order Monday, President Donald Trump wrote that there is "credible evidence" that Broadcom and its affiliates "might take action that threatens to impair the national security of the United States."

He said the two companies must "immediately and permanently abandon the proposed takeover."

Broadcom said in a statement late Monday that it is reviewing the order and that it "strongly disagrees that its proposed acquisition of Qualcomm raises any national security concerns."

Broadcom's hostile takeover of Qualcomm (QCOM) — the latter company rejected the bid — would have combined two computer chip makers. It had been under investigation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, or CFIUS. The inter-agency panel is chaired by the Treasury Department and vets deals that could give a foreign investor control of a US business.

Broadcom (AVGO)primarily makes chips for wired broadband communications, such as modems, Wi-Fi, switches and routers.

mckerney · 03-13-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Looks like the Republicans on the House Committee on Russia are ready to follow Trump right off the cliff:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/polit...ons/index.html

It's amazing what you can't find when you're not looking for it.

Groundhog · 03-13-2018, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 15m15 minutes ago

THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

Another issue we can put to rest!

Ben E Lou · 03-13-2018, 08:00 AM

Bye-bye, Rex!

JPhillips · 03-13-2018, 08:09 AM

You can do anything but criticize the Russians.

BYU 14 · 03-13-2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

You can do anything but criticize the Russians.

Saw some saying that these comments came after he knew he was getting fired, so apparently you can do anything but have balls when you work for Trump.

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 08:48 AM

wonder if he will come forward and take acceptance of the "f&*&ing moron" quote now. Or if he has anything interesting to share with Mueller.

Yes yes no chaos in the White House.

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 08:49 AM

And don't worry Donald, the media hasn't forgotten about that special election in PA today...

cartman · 03-13-2018, 08:59 AM

If he wanted to keep his job, he should have brought back Obama's birth certificate when he visited Kenya.

digamma · 03-13-2018, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

I know there are more sexy things to fret over, but at some point, doesn't the horrifying lack of actual leadership in government matter? We've seen this in bits and pieces... of the top jobs at the State Department, they have filled something like one of 100... of all these senior US Attorneys fired for being Obama holdovers simply have not been replaced... and so forth. It's pretty clear (regardless of what side you're on, I'd think) that this President and Administration have less interest than usual in the actual day-to-day conduct of government business, and I guess we knew we were getting that. But doesn't this actually matter at some point? Or is this just yet another left/right talking point where the true believers will tell us that since the sun continue to rise in the East, that's evidence that we don't actually need a true State Department, and can get by with an occasional official visit somewhere from Ivanka instead? (and so on and so forth)

Just going to bump this one. FROM MAY 2017!!!!

JPhillips · 03-13-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Saw some saying that these comments came after he knew he was getting fired, so apparently you can do anything but have balls when you work for Trump.

Who knows with these clowns.

Ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson found out that he had been fired from the tweet from President Trump on Tuesday, according to Steve Goldstein, Undersecretary for public diplomacy, @eliselabottcnn reports.
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) March 13, 2018

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 10:18 AM

Tillerson wasn't the only one getting fired today...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...red-1520945928

molson · 03-13-2018, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

wonder if he will come forward and take acceptance of the "f&*&ing moron" quote now. Or if he has anything interesting to share with Mueller.

I think it's just as likely a lot of these people bought their jobs in the Trump administration to accomplish something specific - get access to important information or people, influence some government action that will benefit their business going forward - and then they're fine to leave and be away from the microscope.

whomario · 03-13-2018, 10:46 AM

Just yesterday: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...by-about-a-day

“Due to demands in the secretary’s schedule he is returning to the U.S. one day early, after concluding official meetings in Chad and Nigeria,” said Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Steve Goldstein.

Just the latest proove of Trump's utter ignorance with regards to diplomacy and foreign policy.

So he basically sent a lame duck to the "shithole countries" to mend some fences ? I bet they are ecstatic that they just wasted their time discussing/negotiating with him and now are back to square one on whatever was achieved/agreed upon. I mean, the good thing about his ignorance to these countries is that he cares too little to bother firing/replacing the ambassadors apointed by Obama. So, glass half full maybe.

China pretty much has a standing corps of diplomats, business people and technical experts in most every african country.

Meanwhile, the State Department is getting absolutely gutted at every level and the US still has no ambassadors in Australia, Germany, South Korea and Saudi Arabia, among others.

John Oliver on this: Trump vs. The World: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - YouTube

NobodyHere · 03-13-2018, 11:31 AM

I thought Trump only hires the BEST people.

Maybe it just takes him a few tries?

henry296 · 03-13-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

And don't worry Donald, the media hasn't forgotten about that special election in PA today...

I did my part today in that election.

digamma · 03-13-2018, 11:34 AM

This is quite a day, even by Trump standards.

miami_fan · 03-13-2018, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

I think it's just as likely a lot of these people bought their jobs in the Trump administration to accomplish something specific - get access to important information or people, influence some government action that will benefit their business going forward - and then they're fine to leave and be away from the microscope.

I agree with this 1000% especially the bold portion.

Fair play on them though.

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Who knows with these clowns.

And the guy who put out that info about when Tillerson was fired, Steve Goldstein? Now fired as well.

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

I did my part today in that election.

Glad to hear it-if you voted for Lamb of course

cartman · 03-13-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

And the guy who put out that info about when Tillerson was fired, Steve Goldstein? Now fired as well.

It is like the opening credits of Monty Python and The Holy Grail.

JPhillips · 03-13-2018, 12:49 PM

I expect he'll be gracious, but Tillerson's 2 pm statement could be magical.

PilotMan · 03-13-2018, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

It is like the opening credits of Monty Python and The Holy Grail.

To be a fly on the wall.

whomario · 03-13-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I agree with this 1000% especially the bold portion.

Fair play on them though.

Great Severance Package too, i would assume.

cartman · 03-13-2018, 01:21 PM

That was underwhelming from Tillerson.

Ben E Lou · 03-13-2018, 01:55 PM

He would run into a building to save children from a shooting, but he is too much of a coward to fire his Secretary of State face to face.
— The Reagan Battalion (@ReaganBattalion) March 13, 2018

mckerney · 03-13-2018, 02:29 PM

The media has been speculating that I fired Rex Tillerson or that he would be leaving soon - FAKE NEWS! He’s not leaving and while we disagree on certain subjects, (I call the final shots) we work well together and America is highly respected again!https://t.co/FrqiPLFJ1E
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 1, 2017

RainMaker · 03-13-2018, 02:41 PM

Tillerson was a garbage Secretary of State. I don't know if the next guy will be better but Tillerson is trash.

whomario · 03-13-2018, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Tillerson was a garbage Secretary of State. I don't know if the next guy will be better but Tillerson is trash.

As if Trump cares about job performance as measured by normal standards or about the state of the State Department:

Trump's Deep Cuts to State Department Budget Hurt Diplomacy - Bloomberg

Then again, he did play the good soldier promoting the insanity:

Rex Tillerson: state department can be cut as we will soon solve global conflicts | US news | The Guardian

But then again, you gotta take the money for even more military spending from somewhere. So why not the department that is in a way responsible for preventing to have to use the military. Win-Win.

RainMaker · 03-13-2018, 03:32 PM

I mean I know he got fired over his stance on Russia but he was still shit at everything.

Never thought I'd see America become another country's bitch like this.

Groundhog · 03-13-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I mean I know he got fired over his stance on Russia but he was still shit at everything.

Never thought I'd see America become another country's bitch like this.

And in all probability it's because of your president's business interests, or possibly video footage of him peeing on prostitutes. Maybe both.

BBT · 03-13-2018, 07:13 PM

Considering everything that's already come up on Trump regarding his "love-life," I doubt a pee tape would really make a dent.

More than likely, Putin has Trump where it hurts...his wallet in some way.

digamma · 03-13-2018, 08:43 PM

PA-18 going down to the wire.

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

PA-18 going down to the wire.

It sure is. Lamb has been up all night but Saccone is just 1000 votes or so behind now with 95% counted.

JPhillips · 03-13-2018, 09:09 PM

Crazy how 50.1-49.9 Lamb will mean Trump and the GOP are toast and 50.1-49.9 Saccone will mean a resurgent Trump and GOP.

I kind of miss the time when special elections would get a mention on the next night's evening news and we'd all move on rather quickly.

digamma · 03-13-2018, 09:13 PM

In a congressional district that is being redrawn. So this has 8 months of any consequence...

Thomkal · 03-13-2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

In a congressional district that is being redrawn. So this has 8 months of any consequence...

yeah the two guys will be in different districts with the new map. Crazy.

JPhillips · 03-13-2018, 09:42 PM

There are @7000 absentee ballots that won't get counted tonight, so everyone can go to bed. This won't be decided for a bit.

JPhillips · 03-13-2018, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

In a congressional district that is being redrawn. So this has 8 months of any consequence...

And the filing deadline for those new districts is only a week away!

Jas_lov · 03-13-2018, 09:58 PM

Lamb lead now 95 votes with only absentee ballots remaining to count.

bronconick · 03-13-2018, 10:09 PM

Whoever will be declared winner on Friday and file on Tuesday.

henry296 · 03-13-2018, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

yeah the two guys will be in different districts with the new map. Crazy.

Not sure exactly the new lines but Lamb lives in the more republican county and saccone lives in the democratic county.

03-12-2018, 05:43 PM	#9053
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03-12-2018, 06:16 PM	#9054
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03-12-2018, 07:28 PM	#9056
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Looks like the Republicans on the House Committee on Russia are ready to follow Trump right off the cliff: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/polit...ons/index.html __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-12-2018, 08:04 PM	#9058
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 15m15 minutes ago THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-13-2018, 08:00 AM	#9062
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Bye-bye, Rex! __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

03-12-2018, 12:38 PM	#9051
BBT H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Katy, TX	DOLA: Solid take on the whole North Korea/Trump situation from a fairly impartial writer. North Korea is doing what it always has done and Trump isn’t going to change things any more than Clinton or Obama did when they tried. https://thefederalist.com/2018/03/12...th-korea-just/

03-12-2018, 05:10 PM	#9052
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I don't know if it should be a separate thread but the Russians using a chemical weapon on British soil seems like a big story. May had a pretty harsh statement today. Theresa May's ultimatum to Putin: Explain yourself in next 24 hours or face retaliation

03-13-2018, 08:09 AM	#9063
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	You can do anything but criticize the Russians. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-13-2018, 08:48 AM	#9065
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	wonder if he will come forward and take acceptance of the "f&*&ing moron" quote now. Or if he has anything interesting to share with Mueller. Yes yes no chaos in the White House. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-13-2018, 08:49 AM	#9066
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And don't worry Donald, the media hasn't forgotten about that special election in PA today... __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-13-2018, 08:59 AM	#9067
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	If he wanted to keep his job, he should have brought back Obama's birth certificate when he visited Kenya. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-13-2018, 10:18 AM	#9070
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Tillerson wasn't the only one getting fired today... https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...red-1520945928 __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

03-13-2018, 10:46 AM	#9072
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Just yesterday: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...by-about-a-day “Due to demands in the secretary’s schedule he is returning to the U.S. one day early, after concluding official meetings in Chad and Nigeria,” said Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Steve Goldstein. Just the latest proove of Trump's utter ignorance with regards to diplomacy and foreign policy. So he basically sent a lame duck to the "shithole countries" to mend some fences ? I bet they are ecstatic that they just wasted their time discussing/negotiating with him and now are back to square one on whatever was achieved/agreed upon. I mean, the good thing about his ignorance to these countries is that he cares too little to bother firing/replacing the ambassadors apointed by Obama. So, glass half full maybe. China pretty much has a standing corps of diplomats, business people and technical experts in most every african country. Meanwhile, the State Department is getting absolutely gutted at every level and the US still has no ambassadors in Australia, Germany, South Korea and Saudi Arabia, among others. John Oliver on this: Trump vs. The World: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - YouTube __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 03-13-2018 at 10:51 AM.

03-13-2018, 11:31 AM	#9073
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I thought Trump only hires the BEST people. Maybe it just takes him a few tries? __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

03-13-2018, 11:34 AM	#9075
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	This is quite a day, even by Trump standards.

03-13-2018, 12:49 PM	#9080
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I expect he'll be gracious, but Tillerson's 2 pm statement could be magical. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-13-2018, 01:21 PM	#9083
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	That was underwhelming from Tillerson. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-13-2018, 01:55 PM	#9084
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	He would run into a building to save children from a shooting, but he is too much of a coward to fire his Secretary of State face to face. — The Reagan Battalion (@ReaganBattalion) March 13, 2018 __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

03-13-2018, 02:29 PM	#9085
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The media has been speculating that I fired Rex Tillerson or that he would be leaving soon - FAKE NEWS! He’s not leaving and while we disagree on certain subjects, (I call the final shots) we work well together and America is highly respected again!https://t.co/FrqiPLFJ1E — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 1, 2017

03-13-2018, 02:41 PM	#9086
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Tillerson was a garbage Secretary of State. I don't know if the next guy will be better but Tillerson is trash.

03-13-2018, 03:32 PM	#9088
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I mean I know he got fired over his stance on Russia but he was still shit at everything. Never thought I'd see America become another country's bitch like this.

03-13-2018, 07:13 PM	#9090
BBT H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Katy, TX	Considering everything that's already come up on Trump regarding his "love-life," I doubt a pee tape would really make a dent. More than likely, Putin has Trump where it hurts...his wallet in some way.

03-13-2018, 08:43 PM	#9091
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	PA-18 going down to the wire.

03-13-2018, 09:09 PM	#9093
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Crazy how 50.1-49.9 Lamb will mean Trump and the GOP are toast and 50.1-49.9 Saccone will mean a resurgent Trump and GOP. I kind of miss the time when special elections would get a mention on the next night's evening news and we'd all move on rather quickly. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-13-2018, 09:13 PM	#9094
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	In a congressional district that is being redrawn. So this has 8 months of any consequence...

03-13-2018, 09:42 PM	#9096
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	There are @7000 absentee ballots that won't get counted tonight, so everyone can go to bed. This won't be decided for a bit. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-13-2018, 09:58 PM	#9098
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Lamb lead now 95 votes with only absentee ballots remaining to count.

03-13-2018, 10:09 PM	#9099
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Whoever will be declared winner on Friday and file on Tuesday.

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