WW CXLVI: Portal GAME OVER - Test8

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

It would have been foolish for him to claim, but I don't know why you'd vote for someone two days in a row as the seer unless you had a result, knowing that if the worst happens the trail of breadcrumbs you leave is going to someone you don't have anything on.

And that has been my thinking too. I was just saying that even if Autumn were to somehow turn up villager, which seems unlikely, we shouldn't berate DV for "being a horrible seer".

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

We *have* to? Why? What will it tell us other than whether or not Autumn is a wolf?

I think he's right in that it's just going to keep coming up, and there's other lynches that could potentially stem from it as well. As far as information from a result one way or the other, I think we'd get the most out of Autumn. We kind of need to get the ball rolling and if Autumn turns up wolf, the dominos start to fall.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Britrock - have you played werewolf before? Or read along much?

First WW game; read the Amazing Race game to catch the feel of it.

Originally Posted by JAG

Britrock, a few times you've mentioned this is your first game, yet in these two quoted posts you're speaking with certainty about there being five wolves, yet I don't recall anyone talking about wolf:villager ratios. Can you explain why you're so sure of this?

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Yeah this was the reason for my question to Britrock before. I've been kind of assuming five wolves based of experience on these boards but I think there's a lot of places where 5 would be seen as a bit high. I don't think it's a certainty though - which made me wonder if Brit knows there's five and slipped up by saying it so matter-of-factly. I didn't vote because I was waiting on an answer from Brit.

There's also the stuff Bhlloy pointed out about Britrock waiting and waiting before making the day two vote until Bhlloy shifted his vote allowing Brit to put in a meaningless vote on Raiders. Even if you assume Raiders is villager a wolf wouldn't want to put themselves in the position of being seen as the one to lynch a villager by making the decisive vote. Got to give Brit some leeway as a rookie villager might not want to make that decision either but still.

Got the 25%-ish ratio from the one WW game I read. Given that the wolves won, I certainly wouldn't expect it to be any more. It could be the case that there are only 4 here (given how tough a go we've had of it so far)... but I imagined 5 in my mind.

Got delayed for one flight today, so I can't guarantee any deadline activity. For now, I will jump on the wagon that are accepting DV's suggestion.

VOTE AUTUMN

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

And that has been my thinking too. I was just saying that even if Autumn were to somehow turn up villager, which seems unlikely, we shouldn't berate DV for "being a horrible seer".

That's also true. Going from 0 to lynched is something nobody could predict, running him up after he said he'd be away was probably the worst decision out of all this.

[Julio Riddols]

The waters continue getting cloudier and cloudier. It looks like a 2 man race as of now, and I think the 3rd man is also a good candidate for being a wolf.. but then I wonder if maybe I let myself be swayed a bit too soon. I may find my vote reverting back to Autumn if there is a tie near the deadline and mckerney isn't a part of it. I think Autumn has more of a chance of being a wolf than Packerfanatic.. But I don't really have an opinion of Packer yet.

[Julio Riddols]

I do think 2 of the 3 on the ballot as of right now are wolves, however.

[Ragone]

If autumn is a wolf as we all suspect at this point.. a hit list of wolf suspects would likely entail everyone
Who has piled on packer,. Which supports my feeling that ge is also wolfy

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The waters continue getting cloudier and cloudier. It looks like a 2 man race as of now, and I think the 3rd man is also a good candidate for being a wolf.. but then I wonder if maybe I let myself be swayed a bit too soon. I may find my vote reverting back to Autumn if there is a tie near the deadline and mckerney isn't a part of it. I think Autumn has more of a chance of being a wolf than Packerfanatic.. But I don't really have an opinion of Packer yet.

Oh you know you like me, Julio

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Ragone

If autumn is a wolf as we all suspect at this point.. a hit list of wolf suspects would likely entail everyone
Who has piled on packer,. Which supports my feeling that ge is also wolfy

He is one of the ones on my list of probables as well.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Oh you know you like me, Julio

It is entirely possible that you are right.

[mckerney]

I will admit to having absolutely no clue at this point.

[CrimsonFox]

Button 1->
Button 2->

[Julio Riddols]

2... 2 buttons... ah ahh ahhhhh

[bhlloy]

Does that attachment come up weird for everyone else? Or is it intentional?

[Julio Riddols]

I don't think I want to press one.

[bhlloy]

I assume that was a picture of two buttons then?

[Julio Riddols]

Yeah, 2 buttons.

[Ragone]

I wonder if a wolf pushes the button.. nothing would happen.. just saying

[GoldenEagle]

I don't see the buttons either.

[CrimsonFox]

The Count has changed them (the shiny red buttons) from attachments to redirected images in hopes that is better.
(Ah Ah Ah!) Are you on your phones or on a computer? (Ah ah ah!)

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

The problem is that he voted for the same person twice, thats not the act of someone who isn't sure imho - thats the voting of someone who knows something ...

I'm sure at least half of the people in this game have done that actually.

[CrimsonFox]

*fffffft FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT*

My voice is getting tired. It is so tedious sometimes announcing these Aperture Science Boting Test Updates so I will let my assistant do it.

A wall panel opens and someone hovers out supported by computer appendages about him. He doesn't seem conscious.

Please have a big Aperture Science welcome for Jon in Middle Georgia. You can call him JiMGA for short. He's been with me for a long, long LONG time. In fact, he was our best tester last year. That is until the ...um...accident. Now he still helps out but his functionality is depleted. But I couldn't bear to part with him. He will now update the tallies.

The robotic arms that hold him make him wave to you and nod his head then point over to the board. He hovers them and his hand is made to push a button and the voting tabulator changes:

Autumn 7.0 - Simbo Barkeep Ragone Marc kwhit Packer britrock
mckerney 1.0 - Julio
Packer 4.0 - Autumn GE Narcizo bhlloy

Two small robotic arm pinchers grab the sides of his mouth and make him smile.

[Autumn]

There's not much more I can argue. I just urge you not to let it be a landslide, as you'll have wasted an entire day and lost your seer, plus probably two more villagers.

I guess I can say that as a wolf I don't pull the vote switches I did yesterday, drawing that much attention to myself.

[CrimsonFox]

ACK! TERIYAKI EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CrimsonFox]

Meaning I just dumped the rest of my teriyaki onto the floor Rice EVERYWHERE!

[Barkeep49]

Any button pushing results that can be reported? Have two people done it yet? It's frustrating knowing whether the lack of information is because secrecy is needed or because two people haven't done it yet...

[Raiders Army]

Home now.

[Autumn]

I didn't get any button-related PM this time, so I'm assuming I'm not in this button loop.

[Raiders Army]

Okay. I'm trying to guess what DV did. I'd guess that he scanned Autumn Day 1 and me Day 2; however, why would he vote for someone other than Autumn on Day 2 if he was a wolf? That's what I'm not getting. Maybe I'm thinking too simplistically, but I'm not getting a good vibe that Autumn is a hit by the seer. This is also predicated on the aspect that he was able to scan Day 1. I know I threw out a negative vibe towards Autumn early on, but I'm not liking the piling on here. I'll go contrarian and

VOTE PACKERS

I'm also not getting a good vibe from Ragone either. I could go in that direction.

[tyketime]

Well, between the two of you, I think I am more suspicious of Autumn than I am of Packerfanatic. But I agree with some of the others that if we let this get completely away from us, we won't learn as much. So for now, I will also place a vote to bring the totals closer together:

VOTE PACKERFANATIC

[Raiders Army]

Okay. Out for a bit.

[Julio Riddols]

2 dudes, one vote. I'm the only person here who thinks mckerney is a good call?

UNVOTE MCKERNEY

VOTE AUTUMN

[Julio Riddols]

If there are 2 buttons, do I put my cube on one button and stand on the other to occupy them both?

[PackerFanatic]

Both buttons have been pressed by people with cubes. I got a cube PM this morning and had hoped to be on when CF posted the next button - but of course he posted an hour earlier than the last two nights and I was on my way home from work at the time By the time I posted, both buttons already had cubes on them.

[CrimsonFox]

JiMGA is made to present his arms over the votes like Vanna White and pushes the voting update tabulator again.

Autumn 8.0 - Simbo Barkeep Ragone Marc kwhit Packer britrock Julio
Packer 6.0 - Autumn GE Narcizo bhlloy Raiders tyketime

[CrimsonFox]

Button #3---------->

[mckerney]

Vote PackerFanatic

[CrimsonFox]

An update on the update:


Autumn 8.0 - Simbo Barkeep Ragone Marc kwhit Packer britrock Julio
Packer 7.0 - Autumn GE Narcizo bhlloy Raiders tyketime mckerney

[Julio Riddols]

Look at mckerney, he ain't even trying to hide his wolf status.

[Ragone]

get that button packer

[Simbo Klice]

These last 3 to vote on Packers.... Shady.

[Ragone]

Remember what i said early in the day simbo..

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Remember what i said early in the day simbo..

I do. 2 or 3 might be 3 or 4 by now.

I'm hitting the hay, so don't yell at me for being inactive.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Look at mckerney, he ain't even trying to hide his wolf status.

Didn't really think i had a read on him before julio.. may be some merit to that now..

[Julio Riddols]

I've got a list of 4 that I am not convinced aren't wolves.

mckerney
GE
Autumn
tyke

I also wonder about passacaglia.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

These last 3 to vote on Packers.... Shady.

I don't think it is shady. I just think he is the better candidate at this point.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I've got a list of 4 that I am not convinced aren't wolves.

mckerney
GE
Autumn
tyke

I also wonder about passacaglia.

Your bottom 3 are good starts... we have no idea of the wolf to villager ratio.. but 4-5 is probably a good guess..

mckerney has been rather shady.. so i have no problems being suspicious of him.. RA should also be on our wolfdar

[Julio Riddols]

We'll find out soon if we did the right thing today I guess.

[Autumn]

You guys are crazy to think that even if I was a wolf the other wolves would be that transparent, and act in unison. If I was a wolf I'd probably have almost every other wolf on me right now.

Also, if I was a wolf I would be fake revealing as the bodyguard right now. But I'm not. Because I'm not the bodyguard and I'm not a wolf. Just a tester.

[JAG]

Vote PackerFanatic

Other than mckerney, I have more faith in those voting for Packer than voting for Autumn. I also don't really trust Packer with his responses to me this morning.

I think a double lynch would be a fantastic result myself, not sure if that would be what would happen though.

I'll be in and out, but not that active as I've got the kids alone.