2007 MLB Playoffs Thread

[Galaril]

Well back to reality finally we got a game.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I hate that fucking wall.

I think it turned that fly-out into a double.

It kind of creates an illusion about how far balls are hit, because that's a very short wall in terms of distance.

[Young Drachma]

Tulo is clutch.

[SirFozzie]

He's throwing Heat and daring them to hit it. when they do hit it, it's hard hit.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by molson

I think it turned that fly-out into a double.

It kind of creates an illusion about how far balls are hit, because that's a very short wall in terms of distance.

I didn't think about it that way.

I saw the Jays there back in '03. The sight lines suck, but I guess how high that ball went up, it looks like it would've carried out of any other park.

[Young Drachma]

That game sucked. I seen them (the Jays) beat the Twins on my birthday in the last at-bat and even got a player in the bullpen to give me a ball. But in the game against the Sox, some doofus thought it'd be a good idea to let John Wasdin start for the Jays and the Sox countered with Pedro.

Needless to say, I left early on in the game. It was too painful. But the fans were great. And knowledgable and all of that. So that part was nice. And of course, it was a packed house in the middle of June.

[Young Drachma]

I think the Rockies are probably just happy to get some cuts and catching against real life major leaguers that aren't on their own team.

[Young Drachma]

Does anyone care about their player's favourite food? Or is this the whole, "OMG?! No one knows the Rockies 'cuz of eaast coast Bias?!"

I'm guessing they must've gotten free food from that burger place today. These guys are so bad. That TBS telecast was so much more pleasant to listen to.

[Young Drachma]

"The third base coach is so involved in this play, because the next stop after that is home."

[SirFozzie]

Youk is the little engine that could...

"I Think I Can.. I Think I Can.. I Think I can..."

He was laboring near the end

[molson]

My favorite Tim McCarver quote so far:

"After you reach 3rd base, the next stop is home"

Gotcha.

Though he actually made a decent point about Holliday not getting to that ball, forcing the weaker armed guy to make the play, and the 3rd base coach picking that up quickly.

[SirFozzie]

BTW, it just picked up in raining here about a half hour from Boston. I expect some kinda rain delay soon.

[molson]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

BTW, it just picked up in raining here about a half hour from Boston. I expect some kinda rain delay soon.

Wow, was that you talking to the ump just now?

[SirFozzie]

Manny Being..well.. you know.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by molson

Wow, was that you talking to the ump just now?

*chuckles* Nope, just a guy listening to the rain on the sun room roof.

[SirFozzie]

sheesh. just when you think he's not going to throw any more curveballs, he throws about five beauties. Seven K's through 4 innings.

[SirFozzie]

6-1 Sox

[Logan]

Rocktober!

[Young Drachma]

Geez. It's a real beatdown for Game 1.

[SirFozzie]

Sheesh. Making Colorado wait 8 days is criminal. Play game 1 48 hours after the conclusion of the previous series next time.

[molson]

The NL is as bad as the NFC

[SirFozzie]

Sox have tied the record for extra base hits in a world series game. and it's only the 5th inning.

[CamEdwards]

I love this game.

[molson]

This series is FAR from over, but has a city had a better sports run than Boston in the last 5 years? Even the Celtics and BC Football are relevant again.

Things were so god-awful there in my childhood after '86 until the the Pats 1st Super Bowl 15 years later.

[Young Drachma]

It doesn't even feel like the World Series. I'm almost inclined to say the baseball playoffs go on too long. By the time you get to the World Series it's almost anticlimatic.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

It doesn't even feel like the World Series. I'm almost inclined to say the baseball playoffs go on too long. By the time you get to the World Series it's almost anticlimatic.

There hasn't been a really competitive World Series in a while, that might be part of it. I'd rather have the playoffs go even longer - I'd go as far as a best-of-7 divisional round and a best-of-9 World Series.

162 games to a 5 game series is absolutely retarded in a game like baseball. Shorten the regular season, give us more playoffs.

[Young Drachma]

I think shortening the season to 146 games would be great. That way, you can get rid of all of the records of the steroid era by simply closing that record book and starting a new one based on the 146-game schedule.

I do think a best-of-five in the first round is silly, when even basketball went to best-of-seven. But you can't have games all on cable and that'd be the only way we'd get it.

I'd prefer a system that allowed more teams to get a shot, because in a regional sport like baseball, it's the only way to get people interested is to keep teams in the race for longer and right now, that simply doesn't happen.

[Buccaneer]

That has got to be the worst pitching performance I had ever seen by a relief pitcher in a WS.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Sheesh. Making Colorado wait 8 days is criminal. Play game 1 48 hours after the conclusion of the previous series next time.

I agree they shouldn't be penalized anymore than they are by the long layover. The Red Sox should of started up on Tuesday again. Though to be honest I don't know how much dfifernce it would make. The AL and NL is a bit differnt in something that is for sure. The Cards won the series last year mainly due to the fact they were a veternan team playing a fairly young and playoff green team.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Sheesh. Making Colorado wait 8 days is criminal. Play game 1 48 hours after the conclusion of the previous series next time.

Umm, so you think waiting 7 days instead of 8 makes a difference??? How about they just mandate to play all 7 games of CS instead of having a team sweep?

[Crapshoot]

Okay,
that was frigging hilarious. Royce Clayton is funny as all hell.

[Galaril]

I waslooking in the game's box score and this ERA caught my eye since I can't ever remember seeing an ERA that high.

F. Morales 0.2 6 7 7 1 0 0 94.50

[SirFozzie]

there's about 30,000 Sox fans who get a bunch of free furniture if the Sox win the Series.. (They had a deal at this place earlier in the summer where if you purchased your furniture then, and the Sox won the World Series, they refunded your money (I wonder how much the insurance cost)

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Galaril

I agree they shouldn't be penalized anymore than they are by the long layover. The Red Sox should of started up on Tuesday again. Though to be honest I don't know how much dfifernce it would make. The AL and NL is a bit differnt in something that is for sure. The Cards won the series last year mainly due to the fact they were a veternan team playing a fairly young and playoff green team.

What does being a veteran team have to do with winning games?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Atocep

What does being a veteran team have to do with winning games?

The whole idea of "having been there before" and "not cracking under pressure."

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

The whole idea of "having been there before" and "not cracking under pressure."

And when the young team wins its because they're "oblivious to the pressure around them".

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Atocep

What does being a veteran team have to do with winning games?

Are you kidding? Have you ever played any kind of organized team sports before?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Are you kidding? Have you ever played any kind of organized team sports before?

Are you Joe Morgan? Played basketball through my freshman year of college, not that it makes any difference whatsoever.

Have you seen anything to prove that this is actually the case?

Any studies done on the effects of experience in postseason play have shown it makes zero difference.

Its just cliche bullshit. If the experienced team wins its because they could handle the pressure. If the young team wins its because were oblivious to the pressure. Its shit sportswriters come up with to explain unexpected outcomes.

[molson]

Experience matters in every other part of life, not sure why sports would be an exception to that.

[Young Drachma]

It matters. Not in a "gee, look at his intangibles" sort of way and it won't necessarily break a game or be the difference between an awful team and a great one.

But in a close game, it can be all the difference. Learning how to adapt to an opponent, relying on your past experience to be able to defeat an opponent and when you have chemistry with a group? Shoot, it's like clockwork.

I'm not saying that it's the difference in a series like this one where the one team is clearly better than the other, no matter what the outcome is. But...it doesn't hurt either.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

It matters. Not in a "gee, look at his intangibles" sort of way and it won't necessarily break a game or be the difference between an awful team and a great one.

But in a close game, it can be all the difference. Learning how to adapt to an opponent, relying on your past experience to be able to defeat an opponent and when you have chemistry with a group? Shoot, it's like clockwork.

I'm not saying that it's the difference in a series like this one where the one team is clearly better than the other, no matter what the outcome is. But...it doesn't hurt either.

I even see that as a stretch in baseball. However, it was said that the Cardinals won because they were experienced. It was a 5 game series. They Cardinals simply beat the Tigers in 4 games.

Human nature is to find a reason for something unexpected. In sports when something like the Cardinals beating the Tigers in 5 games after winning just 83 regular season games happens, we tend to fall back on the intangibles to explain it.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Are you Joe Morgan? Played basketball through my freshman year of college, not that it makes any difference whatsoever.

Have you seen anything to prove that this is actually the case?

Any studies done on the effects of experience in postseason play have shown it makes zero difference.

Its just cliche bullshit. If the experienced team wins its because they could handle the pressure. If the young team wins its because were oblivious to the pressure. Its shit sportswriters come up with to explain unexpected outcomes.

That is part of my point that experience matters especially as it pertains to handling the pressure. I'm not really sure why you got such a hair across your ass about what I said but fuck it.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by molson

Experience matters in every other part of life, not sure why sports would be an exception to that.

And yes it does and it does here as well regardless.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Galaril

That is part of my point that experience matters especially as it pertains to handling the pressure. i not really sure why stating what I did got such ahair across your ass.

I didn't "get a hair up my ass" until you pulled the "have you even played organized team sports?" card.

I asked how it makes a difference because I've read studies done for both baseball and football that show that postseason experience has no impact on play. The particular series you mentioned also wasn't even close, it was decided in 5 games.

[Galaril]

I guess I miss spoke on the Cards series. I was actually trying not to insult any Crds fans with the truth. The Cards won because they got lucky and the fact the Tigers sucked.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Galaril

I guess I miss spoke on the Cards series. I was actually trying not to insult any Crds fans with the truth. The Cards won because they got lucky and the fact the Tigers sucked.

I prefer to use the terms hot and cold to avoid defensive fans.

[Atocep]

I also have the flu and I'm doped up on Nyquil, so I'm probably a tad irritable. At least more so than usual.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I prefer to use the terms hot and cold to avoid defensive fans.

That is a good rule I suppose I shall keep that one in mind and I apologize for the A-hole comment about did you ever play organized sports.

[Alan T]

I am dissapointed that no one stole a base last night in the game. Someone needs to get on that so the rest of America can have a free taco!

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I am dissapointed that no one stole a base last night in the game. Someone needs to get on that so the rest of America can have a free taco!

What perplexed me most about this was the timing of it. You were to redeem the taco between 2pm and 5pm. Not to turn this into a "ways to maximize your revenue" thread, but I would think the better idea would be to have people come in during lunchtime hours (say 11am to 2pm) so they pick up their free taco, and then buy the second taco, a chalupa, a drink, and maybe some chips. At those hours, it's "let's walk by the Taco Bell on 45th and 3rd, get our taco and come back."

Just my opinion.