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Old 11-30-2007, 10:21 AM   #851
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can we just nightfall already
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:36 AM   #852
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can we just nightfall already

I'm with you on that.

Why again would I be the logical choice for 3rd wolf? I've voted for Anxiety twice I think (if we're going on the almost certain supposition he'll come up wolf at nightfall) and I was on SnDvls until Path did the reveal tango.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:36 AM   #853
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:43 AM   #854
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I'm with you on that.

Why again would I be the logical choice for 3rd wolf? I've voted for Anxiety twice I think (if we're going on the almost certain supposition he'll come up wolf at nightfall) and I was on SnDvls until Path did the reveal tango.

I for one don't think you are a 3rd wolf. possibly a convert.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:46 AM   #855
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*cracks a whip over clam's desk*


Back to work you smarmy excuse for an employee!



*grin*

just had some of that! and where did the clam thing come from? :P

And in a way I am your emplyee

I need a raise boss.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:47 AM   #856
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I'm with you on that.

Why again would I be the logical choice for 3rd wolf? I've voted for Anxiety twice I think (if we're going on the almost certain supposition he'll come up wolf at nightfall) and I was on SnDvls until Path did the reveal tango.

I think everyone has been figured out at this point, so Im baffled if there are more than 2 wolfs!
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:53 AM   #857
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Someone tell me why Jheinze has been figured out?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:54 AM   #858
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dola- I think there are 3 wolves. If not that means Path is telling the truth and this game would be pretty imbalanced.

BTW path, who did you scan last night?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:57 AM   #859
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dola- I think there are 3 wolves. If not that means Path is telling the truth and this game would be pretty imbalanced.

BTW path, who did you scan last night?

Without lookign back I think path scanned heinz and he came upa vialger. and there was the rogue too, so its possible there were 2 wolves and the rogue.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:59 AM   #860
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Well, I don't know if you are a wolf claiming arrogant seer, but you are absolutely lying if you claim there is only one........because I am the seer, and I have not been told anything about whether or not there is another.

My scans so far:

Night 1: Chief Rum, rogue. He is always someone I want to verify as soon as possible.
Night 2: claphamsa, villager. I was really thinking he was bad (hence my vote). I was wrong.
Night 3: Render, villager. Since he was the other candidate yesterday besides myself I figured he needed to be checked.

So there we have it. I know that ntn has lied about one thing in particular, so that's enough for my vote right now:

VOTE NTNDEACON

no Jheinze here
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:05 AM   #861
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no Jheinze here

He scanned me last night, Night 4. He posted it here:

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Sure. Jeheinz -- villager. You?
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:05 AM   #862
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Sure. Jeheinz -- villager. You?

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Old 11-30-2007, 11:33 AM   #863
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I think we're forgetting the no kill on night 1. If they had a persuasive wolf they could have converted someone at that point. So two starting wolves plus a convert.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:47 AM   #864
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I think we're forgetting the no kill on night 1. If they had a persuasive wolf they could have converted someone at that point. So two starting wolves plus a convert.

Possioble, but.... who would the convert be? heinze was just cleared. unless both path and heinze are wolves.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:57 AM   #865
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Possioble, but.... who would the convert be? heinze was just cleared. unless both path and heinze are wolves.
Good point. It would have to be somebody who started off with a role but was then converted, meaning you, Render, or Lathum. Render is unlikely at this point because he used his power after Day 1. I'm not ready to go down that road quite yet as it seems less likely than the idea that we kill Anxiety and path and are done with the game.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:05 PM   #866
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OK, I missed Path's scan.

Are we gonna lynch Anxiety or what?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:30 PM   #867
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Sorry guys, bad day at work (Huck Finn is being challenged for appropriateness as a teaching tool). Anyway, we'll go nightfall here because we've got the votes. Writeup coming...
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:31 PM   #868
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Sorry guys, bad day at work (Huck Finn is being challenged for appropriateness as a teaching tool). Anyway, we'll go nightfall here because we've got the votes. Writeup coming...
Just ass Harry Potter to the reading list.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:36 PM   #869
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Sorry guys, bad day at work (Huck Finn is being challenged for appropriateness as a teaching tool). Anyway, we'll go nightfall here because we've got the votes. Writeup coming...

ugh that does sound like a rough day.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:38 PM   #870
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Just ass Harry Potter to the reading list.

I mean ask
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:40 PM   #871
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I mean ask


sure you did.. suuuure
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:44 PM   #872
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"Boys, get over to the Sahara immediately," yells an anxious and excited St. Cronin into the phone. (How is he getting all this phone access anyway?)

Apparently, Cronin has some inside information that says the casino is vulnerable in twenty minutes do to a daily shift change. All the guards go off at the same time and, because Benedict is cheap and is trying to avoid overtime, nobody comes on for half an hour.

So you throw together the best Egyptian costumes you can, using mop heads for hair and upside down trashcans for fezes. You look like a group of janitors re-enacting the Bangles' "Walk Like an Egyptian" video.

Path, RendeR, ntndeacon, Telle, and jeheinz72 volunteer to lead the way. Stopping off at a zoo on the way to the casino, you heist two camels.

"What are we going to do with camels," Lathum asks.

"I don't know," Path responds, "I just thought they would be cool to have."

Well, the stop off at the zoo costs you some time but you still make it before shift change. But, as you attempt to enter the casino, you see an entire cadre of guards near each of the cash boxes. What happened, did somebody spill your plan?

You look at one another and decide it must be Anxiety. You grab him, tie a rope around one leg and attach the other end of the rope to the back leg of one of the camels. Telle fires a shot in the air and the camel takes off running...BUT as it pulls away, Anxiety's hand shoots out, takes hold of ntnDeacon's leg and he too is dragged into Vegas strip traffic, only to make the nightly news and have both be arrested for disturbing the public.

Anxiety was Linus Caldwell, BRUTAL WOLF

ntndeacon was Rusty Ryan, arrogant seer turned seer.

Night actions coming...
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:48 PM   #873
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That's unfortunate and somewhat unexpected. I really could buy Lathum's theory that path was the brutal.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:49 PM   #874
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Down goes the brutal wolf, but you return to your hotel with no more money and one less villager. After a couple days of success and hope, Benedict and his goons have been able to thwart you. You're down, but not quite out. Can anything else go wrong?

RendeR, Telle, and jeheinz72 decide they need a drink to cope. Telle volunteers to get the booze, jeheinz72 the broads, leaving RendeR the easiest job, the ice.

Telle returns first, carrying jug vodka and whiskey.

"We've got nearly $100 million and you buy plastic bottle grocery-store brand booze?!? Good God," Clap complains.

jeheinz72 returns with some, well, I guess we'll call them women.

"The camels were more attractive," says Barkeep49.

And then a knock on the door, must be RendeR...

But no, a full bucket with a note attached:

RendeR has been put on ice. He was Yen, the persuader.

Begin night six, still 9 pm deadline.

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Old 11-30-2007, 12:52 PM   #875
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I'm married, why the hell did you guys put me in charge of the women? Sheesh.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:56 PM   #876
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I object to the 9PM deadline.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:57 PM   #877
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I object to the 9PM deadline.

What can I do for you Barkeep, earlier, later?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:58 PM   #878
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So we lost, Render, Anxiety (wolf), and NTn seer.

THat leaves
me - Vetran
Heinze
Path- maybe Seer
BK
Lathum- BG
Telle



did i miss anythign?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:59 PM   #879
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So we lost, Render, Anxiety (wolf), and NTn seer.

THat leaves
me - Vetran
Heinze - Cleared by path
Path- maybe Seer
BK- cleared by NTN
Lathum- BG
Telle - cleared by NTN



did i miss anythign?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:00 PM   #880
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Barkeep49 - Cleared by NTN
Claphamsa - Claims to be Veteran right also cleared by Path
jeheinz72 - Cleared by Path
Telle - Cleared by NTN
Path12 - Claims to be Seer
Lathum - Claims to be the BG

I'm willing to forgo that NTN was correct all along, crossing off Telle and BK. I know I'm a simple villager, so I'm clearing myself (and realistically even if you don't believe path on me, it makes more sense to vote him off first anyhow).

So that leaves Path, who I trust inherently since he was correct on me. That also extends a bit to Claphamsa who was cleared as I was and has the uncountered Veteran claim.

That leaves me with Lathum. It'd be ballsy to counter-claim the BG, no doubt, but not out of the question. I mean after all, we have no idea if he's actually protecting anyone. There is the question of Night One. Something happened there. Could Lathum have blocked the kill and in doing so got himself converted?

Lathum, I'd like to know who you've protected these last two (or three) nights and why, *including* your "secret" night 3 protection.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:04 PM   #881
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Weird, I thought you meant add.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:05 PM   #882
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What can I do for you Barkeep, earlier, later?
My concern is that we won't give everyone a chance to be around. If people are all available I'm all for the 9 PM deadline. Otherwise I'd suggest a mid morning deadline tomorrow with a Sunday night deadline. But it looks like everyone might be around between now and lynch, looking over who is still in the game.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:07 PM   #883
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Persuasive Wolf: You function as a regular wolf, although, at random, rather than kill your prey, your powers of persuasion bring them to the wolves' side. You will not be aware of this role until the action actually occurs. Otherwise, you will believe that you are a standard wolf.

The Bodyguard: Each night, you can use your power to protect another player. However, you cannot protect the same player two nights in a row. Furthermore, being the selfless person that you are, you cannot protect yourself either.

Ok, so the BK can't protect himself, and the Persuasive wolf doesn't know he's one. What if, they went after Lathum and killed him and the persuasion factor hit. Lathum becomes a wolf, but also now knows that there's no other BG in the game, so he can reveal as it without worry that it's going to be countered. The one issue I see on this would be SnDvls (since Anxiety was the Brutal) wasn't revealed as the Pesuasive, but it's not a stretch to think we wouldn't get that info.

Vote Lathum
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:07 PM   #884
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That should say BG not BG in paragraph 3.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:08 PM   #885
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Well good luck, village. I hope Ihave put you in a good position to win. Beat the pants of off Terry Benedict's crew!
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:12 PM   #886
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JHeinze, trusting Path because he was right about you would be a huge mistake on your part.

If he was a wolf of course he would be right about you since he would know you are not a wolf.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:13 PM   #887
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jeheinz it does seem, if there is one, that lathum is the most likely convert for the reasons you point out (lack of self protection being the big one). However, why lathum over path?

And lathum: Who did you protect nights 3 and 4? I'm sort of amazed, frankly, that you revealed as BG 3 days ago and are still alive with the inability to protect yourself.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:13 PM   #888
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My concern is that we won't give everyone a chance to be around. If people are all available I'm all for the 9 PM deadline. Otherwise I'd suggest a mid morning deadline tomorrow with a Sunday night deadline. But it looks like everyone might be around between now and lynch, looking over who is still in the game.

Agreed, what I'll do is monitor votes and PM'ed actions. If it looks like someone has not gotten in, we'll follow your suggestion. If everyone makes it, we'll work with tonight and go from there. Apperciate the advice!
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:13 PM   #889
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Weird, I thought you meant add.

yeah, add
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #890
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BK, I am just as amazed as you are about it.

who I protected in what order

Night 1- Jheinz
Night 2- Barkeep
Night 3- Anxiety
Night 4- NTNDeacon

I won't say who I protected last night.

The only explination I can come up with why I wasn't attatcked was the wolves assumed I had been passed an item.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #891
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jeheinz it does seem, if there is one, that lathum is the most likely convert for the reasons you point out (lack of self protection being the big one). However, why lathum over path?

And lathum: Who did you protect nights 3 and 4? I'm sort of amazed, frankly, that you revealed as BG 3 days ago and are still alive with the inability to protect yourself.

Well I believe Path mainly because he was right on me. Even Lathum in the past has admitted that he thinks there is 2 seers due to the conversion of the arrogant. Also, I'd bet converting that arrogant was a low% hit, and it'd be pretty bad if we didn't get a Seer at all. So my hunch is we do have two of them, the only slightly inaccurate information that either has provided was path's scan of CR.

I also do find it amazing that without being able to protect himself he's still alive. I think it's actually only been 2 days, but one would think that any wolf worth his salt would kill Lathum (whose power is still useable) instead of RendeR (whose power isn't anymore, and was also causing doubt in the votes a bit)
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:23 PM   #892
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JHeinze, trusting Path because he was right about you would be a huge mistake on your part.

If he was a wolf of course he would be right about you since he would know you are not a wolf.

Even you have said there are likely 2 seers due to the conversion, right? Do you now dispute this fact conveniently since you're under scrutiny?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:24 PM   #893
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BK, I am just as amazed as you are about it.

who I protected in what order

Night 1- Jheinz
Night 2- Barkeep
Night 3- Anxiety
Night 4- NTNDeacon

I won't say who I protected last night.

The only explination I can come up with why I wasn't attatcked was the wolves assumed I had been passed an item.

Ok, why on Anxiety (who was getting flack) and NTN (who to that point hadn't revealed). Those (along with my name on Day One) seem rather random and frankly, made up.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:25 PM   #894
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Dola- Revealing when I did would make no sense as a wolf.

VOTE PATH

He "cleared" all the people who had already revealed, then "cleared" Jheinz and left him alove last night on purpose because

1. People were somewhat suspiscous of him.
2. Path was trying to gain some level of trust.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:27 PM   #895
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Dola- Revealing when I did would make no sense as a wolf.


Sure it did if you were converted. You'd know there was no other BG (or at least it was a very very very small chance) so you might as well get that info out there and hop in the COT while there is still time
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:28 PM   #896
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Ok, why on Anxiety (who was getting flack) and NTN (who to that point hadn't revealed). Those (along with my name on Day One) seem rather random and frankly, made up.

Actualy NTN had revealed when I protected him.

I protected anxiety because I was suspiscous of him and I was told by PerdueBrad that if I protected the wolf who was going to perform the night kill I mat discover their identity.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:33 PM   #897
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Actualy NTN had revealed when I protected him.


You're right on that, dang 2-cycles in 24 hours got me there. I still think that's pretty easy to make up after the fact. It's not hard to just say you protected the "most valuable" person who wasn't killed that night.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:33 PM   #898
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Sure it did if you were converted. You'd know there was no other BG (or at least it was a very very very small chance) so you might as well get that info out there and hop in the COT while there is still time

well I would have to have been converted night 1.

and how would I have known there was no bodyguard?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:37 PM   #899
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JHeinze, the fact that you trust Path makes me think you are in league with him.

How can you possibly trust him based on the fact he claims to have scanned you?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:38 PM   #900
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well I would have to have been converted night 1.

and how would I have known there was no bodyguard?

Because you were the Bodyguard. So you'd know since you were converted from it to Wolf.
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