2010 NFL Offseason Thread - Offseason ends at 6 pm est

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Subby

NTO easily best addition to FOFC in a while.

Certainly the best username.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

it's true. i'm awesome.

you know who's not getting enough heat in the draft? jarret brown.

check out the rollout laser vs. auburn @ 1:26. es muis caliente.



[NewIdentity]

Does anyone know what the rules are on multiple offense game suspensions? If Holmes gets another suspension for his current Orlando court case, say another 4 games, will he be able to serve it consecutively or concurrently? Will it be 8 games or 4 games, if he gets another 4 game suspension in an unrelated incident?


And, any idea on what happened to the Minnesots Williams boys drug suspension case? I know last year the NFL was blocked from suspending them for their positive drug tests as the courts try to decide if the NFL can legally make the Williams Boys take random drug tests under Minnesota State law. In a lot of states these random drug tests are illegal and your employer must show just cause for having you tested.

[Doug5984]

Originally Posted by NewIdentity

Does anyone know what the rules are on multiple offense game suspensions? If Holmes gets another suspension for his current Orlando court case, say another 4 games, will he be able to serve it consecutively or concurrently? Will it be 8 games or 4 games, if he gets another 4 game suspension in an unrelated incident?


And, any idea on what happened to the Minnesots Williams boys drug suspension case? I know last year the NFL was blocked from suspending them for their positive drug tests as the courts try to decide if the NFL can legally make the Williams Boys take random drug tests under Minnesota State law. In a lot of states these random drug tests are illegal and your employer must show just cause for having you tested.

I think the commish gets to make the call on the suspension.

Nothing has happened as of yet for the Minnesota Williams'- basically the Saints 2 DEs were not forced to be suspended either because they couldn't suspend the 2 DTs from Minn. So nothing yet, but it's still a possibility.

[NewIdentity]

I also wonder what Holmes being traded for a 5th round draft pick does to Brandon Marshall's stock?

Can the Broncos still demand a 1st round pick for the same type of player?


Also, I did like Jim Rome's take, that teams should immediately start calling the Pittsburgh Steelers and offer their 4th round pick for Ben Roethlisberger.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

it's true. i'm awesome.

you know who's not getting enough heat in the draft? jarret brown.

I like JB and have always appreciated the fact that he stayed in Morgantown waiting his turn behind Pat White, but 4th-5th round is where he's being projected and that's about right. For every amazing throw the guy makes he has an equally boneheaded play in the same game.

If he can get his head straight he has all the tools to be a very good QB in the NFL. Physical tools alone are probably late 1st-2nd round worthy. His accuracy on the deep ball is very good, strong arm, overall accuracy is above average, and he's very mobile. By all accounts he's a great kid and as a WVU fan I wish him the best.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yeah, to be fair i've only seen him @ the senior bowl and on youtube. i should of prefaced it with 'hey wvu fans what do you think of ...'

he lit up the combine. best numbers across the board if i remember right.

i just think it's a lousy year for qb's. if you're gonna gamble on someone might as well go with the best athlete.

[Swaggs]

I'm also a big fan of Brown and appreciate the patience he displayed while backing up Pat White. I agree with Atocep about his physical tools -- he is a freakish athlete with a cannon arm, but his judgement is, at best, unproven (due to the limited amount of career starts that he had) and, at worst, just plain bad. He seems to do well on the first couple of drives in each game, which makes me wonder if he "masters" the scripted plays, that they repeatedly run during the week in practice, but struggles to grasp the overall game plan and/or play book.

I think he'd be a good pick for a team that has a firmly entrenched coaching staff (that will be in place for at least 3-5 more seasons) that has an established offense and starting quarterback. If he could get on a team that didn't significantly change the playbook from year to year and had some time to develop, he could become a good starter in 3-4 years.

Of course, you could probably say the same about a number of other young QBs.

[Swaggs]

I do think Brown could be a pretty awesome H-back or receiving TE. He is a huge guy with a lot of speed. The season that he played basketball, he looked like a giant (weight-wise) compared to all the other basketball players.

[Logan]

Rutgers is doing a pretty good job putting defensive players in the NFL. In a couple years maybe there will be a bunch on one team, and then Jarrett Brown can just bounce around the NFL playing against that squad weekly. All-Pro.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

yeah, to be fair i've only seen him @ the senior bowl and on youtube. i should of prefaced it with 'hey wvu fans what do you think of ...'

he lit up the combine. best numbers across the board if i remember right.

i just think it's a lousy year for qb's. if you're gonna gamble on someone might as well go with the best athlete.

Are you sure your nickname shouldnt' be Al_Davis ??

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I think he'll be great paired with Calvin Johnson.

Come on...wasn't Reggie Ball enough torture for Johnson?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Are you sure your nickname shouldnt' be Al_Davis ??

i see how it is. i'll have you know sir that this kid's got moxy. MOXY!

for the record, some of my previous predictions included dexter jackson (app st) having a better career than desean jackson and that chad henne would emerge as the best qb of his class (ryan/flacco)

/whistles away in self satisfaction/

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Logan

Rutgers is doing a pretty good job putting defensive players in the NFL. In a couple years maybe there will be a bunch on one team, and then Jarrett Brown can just bounce around the NFL playing against that squad weekly. All-Pro.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Logan]

Thank god youtube doesn't autoplay.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

let's see dan lefevour do that shit.

[miami_fan]

Brandon Marshall to the Dolphins?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yep. for a second. good for miami.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

yep. for a second. good for miami.

For 2 2nd's. One this year and one next year.

[Ksyrup]

I guess I'm happy with that (assuming it's both picks). Seems like he wasn't going to be around next year, everyone knew it, and they still got something of value for him.

That Jerry Jones video talking bad about Parcells and Tebow... am I missing something? The media is trying to make it sound like Jones is disparaging Tebow by saying he wouldn't use a 3rd round pick on him because he'd never see the field. Um, isn't that because he has Romo, and not necessarily because he thinks Tebow sucks? My guess is, Polian would say the same thing. What, do you want him to bench Peyton Manning?

[Kodos]

Not a fan of Brandon Marshall. Talented guy, but an asshat. Wish he'd gone to Seattle or something.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

For 2 2nd's. One this year and one next year.

Good for Denver. I am happy with that. We now have a 1st 2 seconds and most likely two 3s once we trade Scheffler later this week.

[remper]

We're still waiting in Chicago for a GODDAMN NUMBER 1 RECEIVER. Or anyone that even remotely resembles that. With Martz here we have an offense that no longer needs a pass catching TE, and relies pretty heavily on throwing to WRs... Right now that's Knox (meh), Bennett(ugh), and Hester(shudder).

[DataKing]

Originally Posted by remper

We're still waiting in Chicago for a GODDAMN NUMBER 1 RECEIVER. Or anyone that even remotely resembles that. With Martz here we have an offense that no longer needs a pass catching TE, and relies pretty heavily on throwing to WRs... Right now that's Knox (meh), Bennett(ugh), and Hester(shudder).

Martz is going to have to adjust to the talent he has available, because the Bears just don't have the leeway to make any more big splashes. Expect to see Olsen lining up in the slot a lot this year.

Also, as much as I dislike Martz and am pervently praying that the lame-duck staff here doesn't get Cutler killed, Martz' system could mean big numbers for Johnny Knox this year.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by remper

We're still waiting in Chicago for a GODDAMN NUMBER 1 RECEIVER. Or anyone that even remotely resembles that. With Martz here we have an offense that no longer needs a pass catching TE, and relies pretty heavily on throwing to WRs... Right now that's Knox (meh), Bennett(ugh), and Hester(shudder).

Word out of Dove Valley here in Denver was two teams that were never even considered by Denver FO was Chicago or the Redskins though they probably could not have ponied up the two 2nd rounders anyways.

[Big Fo]

Wow, it's been a long time since we had a legitimately good WR.

[stevew]

I think it is essentially a 5 year 50m deal, too. 24m in guarantees. Not bad for a guy that likely talked enough shit to get one of his friends killed.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by remper

We're still waiting in Chicago for a GODDAMN NUMBER 1 RECEIVER. Or anyone that even remotely resembles that. With Martz here we have an offense that no longer needs a pass catching TE, and relies pretty heavily on throwing to WRs... Right now that's Knox (meh), Bennett(ugh), and Hester(shudder).

I think you may already have that guy in Devin Aromashodu. I stashed him on my fantasy roster after hearing Cutler rave about him and beg for him to be put on the field. And once he was, his numbers were awesome. He had a stinker against BAL (the whole team did), but otherwise: 8 for 76 and a TD; 7 for 150 and a TD, and 5 for 46 and 2 TDs. Not bad for the stretch run.

[Logan]

Supposedly the Dolphins were already shopping Ginn and will continue to do so. I'm curious what they're looking for back. Wouldn't mind at all if the Niners could pick him as a returner for a late pick.

[bhlloy]

I hear they are looking for somebody with an equally solid family. I wonder if anyone who was defending this pick back in 07 wants to show their face in here now...

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Not a fan of Brandon Marshall. Talented guy, but an asshat. Wish he'd gone to Seattle or something.

This. But maybe he'll change my mind and it's nice to finally have a true #1 again. So much for Dez, though. Now it'll be NT Williams or one of the 3-4 DE/OLB types.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I hear they are looking for somebody with an equally solid family. I wonder if anyone who was defending this pick back in 07 wants to show their face in here now...

Is there anyone like that besides Cam Cameron?

[stevew]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I hear they are looking for somebody with an equally solid family. I wonder if anyone who was defending this pick back in 07 wants to show their face in here now...

I'm sure that person is right beside all the other LOLPhins fans who wanted them to draft Brady Fucking Quinn.

[Kodos]

Honestly, would Quinn have been any worse of a pick?

If it helps us avoid Dez, that's at least a plus. I wish the Dolphins cared more about character.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by stevew

I think it is essentially a 5 year 50m deal, too. 24m in guarantees. Not bad for a guy that likely talked enough shit to get one of his friends killed.

Stay classy Pittsburgh and coming from a Steelers fan after some of the shit Rothliesberger just went throu I would think being silent is a good idea.

[stevew]

I gather you didn't follow the trial?

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by stevew

I gather you didn't follow the trial?

Not so much.

[kingfc22]

And we finally have a return man. Plus it is better than wasting a 1st on Spiller like some people would like us to do IMO.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Logan

Supposedly the Dolphins were already shopping Ginn and will continue to do so. I'm curious what they're looking for back. Wouldn't mind at all if the Niners could pick him as a returner for a late pick.

Who's the man?!

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Logan

Who's the man?!

[tucker rocky]

Bears fans, T.O is available.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

anyone see the grudens qb camp segs on espn?

hate to say it, but tebow looks pretty strong.

[Atocep]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010emmitt.php

If Emmitt Smith did an NFL mock draft.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Huh.

Odd deal:

The Eagles send a 5th round pick to Denver for Tony Scheffler.

The Eagles then send Scheffler to the Lions for LB Ernie Sims.

The Lions also get a 7th round pick from Denver.

I always liked Ernie Sims and the way he hit people, but he wasn't a great linebacker. Soild, but not great in any way. I supposed picking up Scheffler means that Petigrew's recovery from his knee surgery isn't going great.

This creates yet another hole on the leauge's worst defense. They aren't really that deep at linebacker. Projected starters were Julian Peterson, 2nd year guy Deandre Levy and Sims. There really isn't any back-up who is a starting caliber player.

[albionmoonlight]

H_B (or any other Detroit fan):

Folks on the Saints message board are speculating about a possible Jamal Brown to Detroit trade. Not based on any rumors, I think--just the idea that the Saints have a surplus of LTs and Detroit needs one.

Any rumors of that on you guys' end of things?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

H_B (or any other Detroit fan):

Folks on the Saints message board are speculating about a possible Jamal Brown to Detroit trade. Not based on any rumors, I think--just the idea that the Saints have a surplus of LTs and Detroit needs one.

Any rumors of that on you guys' end of things?

I haven't heard any rumors about that, but then again I hadn't heard anything at all about moving Ernie Sims or getting Scheffler.

Mayhew has shown a propensity for trading for players, so it is a distinct possibility.

I don't know too much about Jamal Brown. If the Lions consider him an upgrade over Backus, they might make the deal, but I am not sure what they'll do with Backus then, since they already traded for a potential starting LG in Sims from Seattle. I guess they could move Backus to RG or RT, since Cherlius hasn't blown anyone away.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Atocep

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010emmitt.php

If Emmitt Smith did an NFL mock draft.

I don't know which one I like better: Golden State or Tim Tivo. They both made me laugh out loud.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I haven't heard any rumors about that, but then again I hadn't heard anything at all about moving Ernie Sims or getting Scheffler.

Mayhew has shown a propensity for trading for players, so it is a distinct possibility.

I don't know too much about Jamal Brown. If the Lions consider him an upgrade over Backus, they might make the deal, but I am not sure what they'll do with Backus then, since they already traded for a potential starting LG in Sims from Seattle. I guess they could move Backus to RG or RT, since Cherlius hasn't blown anyone away.

Brown is a pro-bowl quality LT, but was on IR last season. Honestly, I'd like it if the Saints got rid of him. He's a great player, but he has bad knees. Maybe he can play another 10 years at a pro-bowl LT. I'm more likely to think that he will be out of the league in five years due to injury.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Kodos

If it helps us avoid Dez, that's at least a plus. I wish the Dolphins cared more about character.

Are you saying that Dez Bryant has more character issues than Marshall?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

The Lions send Ernie Sims to the Eagles for Tony Schleffer & a 7th rounder?

I hope they run a lot of 2 TE sets...